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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Butane to propane conversion

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

I have done this in Fort Lauderdale. Ray asked for
$1,000, I bought the materials for about $300-400. I
don't remember the outfit address off hand, you can
find it in the yellow pages, it is somwhere to the
north in F.L. East of 95, you will need nothing else.

Michael SM2000 #345


--- johnabo2003 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I am the proud new owner of an Amel Super Maramu
2003 that needs a
butane to propane conversion. I am debating doing
the conversion
myself. Has anybody had this conversion done
professionally, and if so
do you know the breakdown of costs between materials
and labour
assuming the conversion is done in the US?







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Butane to Propane conversion

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Having done a search on this site after I posed my origional question,
I guess I need to refine the scope of my question.

Is it sufficient when performing the conversion to simply replace the
tanks and the connectors, or do all of the lines, etc., need replacing
in order to handle the increased pressure.

Thanks
John


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Butane to propane conversion

eric freedman
 

Congratulations,

All you have to do is change the regulator and tank hoses in the locker.

if I remember correctly the locker holds a 20 and 10 lb aluminum tank.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Butane to propane conversion



I am the proud new owner of an Amel Super Maramu 2003 that needs a
butane to propane conversion. I am debating doing the conversion
myself. Has anybody had this conversion done professionally, and if so
do you know the breakdown of costs between materials and labour
assuming the conversion is done in the US?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Butane to propane conversion

eric freedman
 

Congratulations,

All you have to do is change the regulator and tank hoses in the locker.

if I remember correctly the locker holds a 20 and 10 lb aluminum tank.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Butane to propane conversion



I am the proud new owner of an Amel Super Maramu 2003 that needs a
butane to propane conversion. I am debating doing the conversion
myself. Has anybody had this conversion done professionally, and if so
do you know the breakdown of costs between materials and labour
assuming the conversion is done in the US?


Butane to propane conversion

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

I am the proud new owner of an Amel Super Maramu 2003 that needs a
butane to propane conversion. I am debating doing the conversion
myself. Has anybody had this conversion done professionally, and if so
do you know the breakdown of costs between materials and labour
assuming the conversion is done in the US?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: air conditioning maramu

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

Thanks to all. I will start with the saloon, and install smaller separate AC's in the V berth and aft cabin. There are some very compact units available, which should do the job in the sleeping quarters.
Eric, "Maramu" 105

amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Eric:
The Amel Super Maramu comes standards with three (3) Clima 9EH =
9,000 BTU Air conditioners with Electric Heat. There is one unit in
the forward cabin that cools the forward cabin and forward head
very well. There is one unit in the aft cabin that does an admirable
job of cooling that cabin and head. The unit in the saloon is not
adequate to cool the saloon especially in the tropics. Joel tells me
that he installs a fourth unit in the saloon on all of his boats. The
quarter berth has poor cooling by both the AC from the saloon and
by opening ports. I am in the process of installing a fourth Clima
unit (a 10,000 BTU with EH). Most of it's output will be directed into
the galley to help my poor hard working cook (wife), and if I can
figure a way to duct some air to the quarter berth I will do that.
I am also considering installing another opeing port into the
quarter berth area.
I don't think you need 16,000 BTU in the aft cabin. 16,000 BTU
is about right for the saloon in my opinion. Each unit has only
one vent outlet on the SM. Simple, but a small outlet in the aft
head (which doesn't have a hatch like the forward head), and
two outlets in the forward cabin would give better cool air
distribution. Two outlets are definitely needed in the saloon.

Hope these thoughts help.

Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM 2000 # 395

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric lindholm" <etlindholm@...> wrote:

I am thinking about installing air conditioning on my Maramu. My plan
was to install a 16,000 BTU unit in the forward, outside bottom
portion of the cockpit storage, just outside of the waterheater. I
could then cut a duct through to the waste box under the stove and use
that for my return duct. I don't use the waste cabinet anyway, and I
won't be cutting holes in anything else. I was then going to run the
output straight up into the fresh aire ducting, right where the fans
are presently. I removed the heater some time ago as I don't/won't
sail where it is cold. Question, is 16,000 BTU enough? I think it may
be marginal, and I will need 2 units, one perhaps under the settee,
and another in the rear stateroom if I want to keep the whole boat
cool, or just one in the main cabin, and not worry about the rear.
Next is the current ducting going to provide enough output? I was
going to install an additional vent in the main cabin so there are at
least 2 or maybe 3. Any suggestions, comments?

Eric Maramu 105


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: air conditioning maramu

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

I am most concerned about the saloon, and I felt that the vents might be too small, but was hoping someone had found it worked. I will probably focus on the saloon then, and install the large ducts there. Thank you for the imput. Good sailing.
Eric, "Maramu"

"Golden Daze (Ken & Judy)" <goldendaze@uuplus.com> wrote:
We have Maramu 192 and it came with a 16000 btu mermaid reverse cycle
installed in the aft of the saloon settee.
There are 2 outlets, one blowing aft through the tunnel towards the aft
cabin, at the nav table bulkhead
(across your legs if you are at the nav.). The other blows across the
saloon in the foot area between
the saloon table and freezer. The return is in the fore/aft walkway just in
front of the nav table bulkhead.
Thermostat is just above the nav table.
We lived in Fort Lauderdale (now live on boat). In summer when boat was
closed up and hot(100f) it would take quite
awhile to cool it down. We shut forward saloon door and hung a plastic
shower curtain over the aft passage
(tunnel) to keep the air in the saloon. After while we would open the
back. Cooling in the back in the
day was never very good, we put a fan in tunnel if working in back to get
air back there. At night it
was more than enough without a fan.
We are now in the Cheasapeak getting ready to go to spain next May. It was
plenty good for the summer
here.
We are using the diesel heater now. You would never get enough air for
cooling through those small ducts.
The Mermaid output ducts are 6" and the return is right at the unit. You
need to move a lot of air and
I don't think the ducts are where you need them, nor large enough. You'll
want most of the air dumping
into the saloon. (perhaps 4 4" ducts)
Since we are heading for the Med. and don't plan on anymore S Florida
summers we are satisfied with our
with the one 16000 btu.
To live in S.Florida you would want 2 units to be cool throughout the boat
during the day. The aft
could be smaller. The v berth was never very cool, except at night. (entire
boat open with fan)
Don't forget about the extra amps and your load. We are still using 30 amp
service. With hot water, etc
it adds up fast.
We turn off all at night, so on cold mornings we turn on the reverse cycle
mermaid, and the diesel heater,
which we just replaced, and it gets warm in 15 min.
We also just replaced or rebuilt everything from the deck up, and I'll post
some info on that adventure
when we get all the details finished.

Ken & Judy
Golden Daze M192


Re: air conditioning maramu

Golden Daze \(Ken & Judy\) <goldendaze@...>
 

We have Maramu 192 and it came with a 16000 btu mermaid reverse cycle
installed in the aft of the saloon settee.
There are 2 outlets, one blowing aft through the tunnel towards the aft
cabin, at the nav table bulkhead
(across your legs if you are at the nav.). The other blows across the
saloon in the foot area between
the saloon table and freezer. The return is in the fore/aft walkway just in
front of the nav table bulkhead.
Thermostat is just above the nav table.
We lived in Fort Lauderdale (now live on boat). In summer when boat was
closed up and hot(100f) it would take quite
awhile to cool it down. We shut forward saloon door and hung a plastic
shower curtain over the aft passage
(tunnel) to keep the air in the saloon. After while we would open the
back. Cooling in the back in the
day was never very good, we put a fan in tunnel if working in back to get
air back there. At night it
was more than enough without a fan.
We are now in the Cheasapeak getting ready to go to spain next May. It was
plenty good for the summer
here.
We are using the diesel heater now. You would never get enough air for
cooling through those small ducts.
The Mermaid output ducts are 6" and the return is right at the unit. You
need to move a lot of air and
I don't think the ducts are where you need them, nor large enough. You'll
want most of the air dumping
into the saloon. (perhaps 4 4" ducts)
Since we are heading for the Med. and don't plan on anymore S Florida
summers we are satisfied with our
with the one 16000 btu.
To live in S.Florida you would want 2 units to be cool throughout the boat
during the day. The aft
could be smaller. The v berth was never very cool, except at night. (entire
boat open with fan)
Don't forget about the extra amps and your load. We are still using 30 amp
service. With hot water, etc
it adds up fast.
We turn off all at night, so on cold mornings we turn on the reverse cycle
mermaid, and the diesel heater,
which we just replaced, and it gets warm in 15 min.
We also just replaced or rebuilt everything from the deck up, and I'll post
some info on that adventure
when we get all the details finished.

Ken & Judy
Golden Daze M192


Re: air conditioning maramu

Judy Rouse
 

Gary,

You are absolutely correct about the saloon/galley A/C output for the
tropics.

Where will you locate unit number 4?

Bill Rouse
SM2 #387
Anchored St. James USVI



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Eric:
...Joel tells me
that he installs a fourth unit in the saloon on all of his boats.
...I am in the process of installing a fourth Clima
unit (a 10,000 BTU with EH). Most of it's output will be directed into
the galley to help my poor hard working cook (wife), and if I can
figure a way to duct some air to the quarter berth I will do that.


Re: air conditioning maramu

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Eric:
The Amel Super Maramu comes standards with three (3) Clima 9EH =
9,000 BTU Air conditioners with Electric Heat. There is one unit in
the forward cabin that cools the forward cabin and forward head
very well. There is one unit in the aft cabin that does an admirable
job of cooling that cabin and head. The unit in the saloon is not
adequate to cool the saloon especially in the tropics. Joel tells me
that he installs a fourth unit in the saloon on all of his boats. The
quarter berth has poor cooling by both the AC from the saloon and
by opening ports. I am in the process of installing a fourth Clima
unit (a 10,000 BTU with EH). Most of it's output will be directed into
the galley to help my poor hard working cook (wife), and if I can
figure a way to duct some air to the quarter berth I will do that.
I am also considering installing another opeing port into the
quarter berth area.
I don't think you need 16,000 BTU in the aft cabin. 16,000 BTU
is about right for the saloon in my opinion. Each unit has only
one vent outlet on the SM. Simple, but a small outlet in the aft
head (which doesn't have a hatch like the forward head), and
two outlets in the forward cabin would give better cool air
distribution. Two outlets are definitely needed in the saloon.

Hope these thoughts help.

Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM 2000 # 395

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric lindholm" <etlindholm@...> wrote:

I am thinking about installing air conditioning on my Maramu. My plan
was to install a 16,000 BTU unit in the forward, outside bottom
portion of the cockpit storage, just outside of the waterheater. I
could then cut a duct through to the waste box under the stove and use
that for my return duct. I don't use the waste cabinet anyway, and I
won't be cutting holes in anything else. I was then going to run the
output straight up into the fresh aire ducting, right where the fans
are presently. I removed the heater some time ago as I don't/won't
sail where it is cold. Question, is 16,000 BTU enough? I think it may
be marginal, and I will need 2 units, one perhaps under the settee,
and another in the rear stateroom if I want to keep the whole boat
cool, or just one in the main cabin, and not worry about the rear.
Next is the current ducting going to provide enough output? I was
going to install an additional vent in the main cabin so there are at
least 2 or maybe 3. Any suggestions, comments?

Eric Maramu 105


Wanted:

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello all,

I need to replace the remote handset on a Shipmate (Simrad) RS8300.
Has anyone updated their VHF and still have an old one? Anyone
planning to do that? All I need is the remote handset, and I have not
found one on Ebay or Google - ing. Thanks in advance!

Tony and Heidi
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


air conditioning maramu

eric lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

I am thinking about installing air conditioning on my Maramu. My plan
was to install a 16,000 BTU unit in the forward, outside bottom
portion of the cockpit storage, just outside of the waterheater. I
could then cut a duct through to the waste box under the stove and use
that for my return duct. I don't use the waste cabinet anyway, and I
won't be cutting holes in anything else. I was then going to run the
output straight up into the fresh aire ducting, right where the fans
are presently. I removed the heater some time ago as I don't/won't
sail where it is cold. Question, is 16,000 BTU enough? I think it may
be marginal, and I will need 2 units, one perhaps under the settee,
and another in the rear stateroom if I want to keep the whole boat
cool, or just one in the main cabin, and not worry about the rear.
Next is the current ducting going to provide enough output? I was
going to install an additional vent in the main cabin so there are at
least 2 or maybe 3. Any suggestions, comments?

Eric Maramu 105


Re: Rain-X

RAS <ras_cornwall@...>
 

I've used Rain-x on sunglasses while wind surfing for years,it is expensive, though handy on sloping 'glass' windscreens when wipers fail but does build up then difficult to remove.I'd be wary putting anything on plastic windows they seem to mess up without doing anything ! Amel wannabe RAS.

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Re: Rain-X

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello John,

Instead of Rain X, try good old fashioned Lemon Pledge. I have used
it on the plexiglass of both airplanes and helicopters and now our
SM. I buy the liquid version in the pump container as it is so much
less expensive than the aerosol. Works great, easy to apply and has
not hurt the plexi on anything I have used it on.

Tony and Heidi
WORLD CITIZEN SM 266



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "john martin"
<symoondog@...> wrote:

Hello, Has anyone used the product rain-x on the windshield of
their boat.
It works wonders on a car as the water just rolls off with little
need of
the wipers. The directions state not to use it on plastics unless
pre-aproved by the manufacturer of the plastic. John ' Moondog'
sm248

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rain-X

Mike Ondra <mondra@...>
 

John,

I called Rain-X about six months ago about this and they said not to use on
plastic and that they were working on a product that would work on plastic.
It would be nice!

Mike Ondra
Aletes SM #240

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To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rain-X



Hello, Has anyone used the product rain-x on the windshield of their boat.
It works wonders on a car as the water just rolls off with little need of
the wipers. The directions state not to use it on plastics unless
pre-aproved by the manufacturer of the plastic. John ' Moondog' sm248

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Rain-X

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Hello, Has anyone used the product rain-x on the windshield of their boat. It works wonders on a car as the water just rolls off with little need of the wipers. The directions state not to use it on plastics unless pre-aproved by the manufacturer of the plastic. John ' Moondog' sm248

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Re: Valsat 03 GPS - antenna

myersdon1 <myersdon@...>
 

I have a Valsat GPS that I removed from our SM # 160 about two months
ago. It was working at that time. Please contact me at
myersdonxadelphia.net if you are interested (replace x with @)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine kill switch?

eric freedman
 

Peter,

The main engine has a floating ground.

That means the negative side of the battery bank is not normally connected
to the engine block.

I believe what you are referring is the engine start relay.

This connects the negative side of the battery bank to the engine block
which will allow your engine to start. This disengages when the engine
starts.

The no shutoff problem is probably caused by a defective Yanmar relay. It is
black and very close to the previously mentioned solenoid.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pjppappas
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine kill switch?



As most of you have notice there are times when the engine kill switch
at the helm will not kill the engine and one must go below and turn
the throttle back to kill the engine. Recently i sent a crew member
down to do just that and today my engine won't turn over. You turn the
switch and it just goes click. I am in La Paz Mexico and a totally
clueless mechanic didn't have a cleu as to the problem. So I go poking
around and there is this brass looking cylinder just above the throtle
with what looks like a button on the top of it so i give it a couple
of pushes and voila the engine starts. what is this contraption.
apparantly the crew member pushed that button. is it a kill switch and
should it be used to kill the engine when the helm kill switch won'd
get the job done. I was afraid i was going to be stuck here for
awhile - not a bad place, but not in keeping with my plans. thanks
Peter Pappas Callisto SM369


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Quiet Flush Jabsco Head Pumps

eric freedman
 

I have had great luck with depco pumps in Florida.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Quiet Flush Jabsco Head Pumps



Hello John and Anne,

Thanks for the input. See it takes me months without the head to
find the parts. Never thought to use the search engine here. But
now I have LEARNED!!!!! Thanks.

Tony and Heidi
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<annejohn@...> wrote:

Hi Tony and Heidi.
Sorry to see that you had a problem finding parts. If you had put
jabsco pump in the search box it would have come up with nine
previous
messages and Jabsco head pumps would have found about 40 of them.
The search facility is very good and does not, as I thought, just
rely
on message subject headings.

Happy flushing, John, SM 319


Valsat 03 GPS - antenna

rainer_bichlbauer
 

My antenna for the Valsat 03 GPS is defect and can't be repaired -
told me Ponchon in France. They don't have a replacement antenna. Is
there maybe anyone around who has such an antenna left over when he
updated his electronic equipment??? Would like to buy it as a
temporary solution untill I buy a new equipment and redo the wooden
panel, because of different dimensions.

SM GIGUE (143/95)
Rainer