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Re: boat preparation for summer in trinidad

Herbert Lackner
 

Bill, thank you for your generous offer for having an eye on KALI MERA in the summer!  I will contact you later regarding that, hope to see you and Judy again then next year!

Ian, thanks for your detailled information, we will follow your recommendations. when are you in Grenada? we will sail to Carriacou today and then down to Grenada Prickley Bay. Maybe we can meet there...

herbert, SN120, KALI MERA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Vibrations Propellor Shaft, engine ?

Herbert Lackner
 

Hi James,

I do not know the Maramu well, but the Santorin is very similar to the Super Maramu, it is just smaller but with the same shape (maybe Olivier knows what differences are). Most of the technical stuff like c-drive, bow thruster, rig and gearboxes are exactly the same as the Super Maramu. when we see a SM we always think it is like the big sister of our boat...

If you need the dimensions I think there are drawings for the santorin in the photo section.

fair winds,

herbert, SN120, KALI MERA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

ldesalvo@...
 

Hello Andrew and thank you for your reply.

Yes I currently have the same condition with the starting battery voltage reading on my system monitor reading low voltage. But when the generator is off the monitor reads the correct voltage for the starting battery. Does yours do the same?

Jim S/V Liebling, PV Mexico


On 2016-04-26 03:22, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@telemed.co.uk [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Jim
A couple of years ago I changed my Xantec monitor to a Victron Monitor
which advertised that it would measure the house batteries and the
starter motor battery for me. I thought this would be really good as
well as the fact that it integrates with the other Victron products
and allows me to gather together all the charging, inverting solar
power data etc and remotely monitor these. Problem is on the Amel the
house batteries and started battery are isolated from each other and
the Victron battery monitor relies on them sharing the -ve to measure
load and voltage correctly. I therefore get pretty much a random value
usually around 3 volts on the starter battery recorded - it does vary
a bit but essentially it is random as the two systems are isolated
from each other. I wonder if you are experiencing the same thing - I
just decided to live with it rather than making any changes to the
isolation that is clearly there by design.
Andrew
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet-en-Roussillon
FROM: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
SENT: 26 April 2016 06:18
TO: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
SUBJECT: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery
Eric and Bill,
Thank you for your speedy comments and warnings. I will share your
input with my electrician tomorrow and get back to you.
Jim SM #207
On 2016-04-25 21:46, sailormon kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners] wrote:
> JIM,
>
> AS BILL MENTIONED THE GENERATOR/ENGINE START BATTERY NEGATIVE
SHOULD
> NOT BE CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE BANK.
>
> THE GENERATOR HAS A FLOATING GROUND WHICH MEANS AS SOON AS THE
> GENERATOR IS STARTED THE GENERATOR IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE
BATTERY,
> THE ONLY THING THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE BATTERY WHEN THE GENERATOR
IS
> RUNNING IS THE ISOLATED GROUND ALTERNATOR.
>
> DID YOU CHECK TO SEE WHERE THE LEADS FOR THE BLUE SEAS VOLT METER
ARE
> CONNECTED?
>
> IF IT HAS ITS GROUND HOOKED TO THE GENERATOR YOU WILL GET AN
ERRONEOUS
> READING AS IT IS NO LONGER CONNECTED TO THE BATTERY. WHAT READING
DO
> YOU GET WHEN THE ENGINE IS RUNNING?
>
> MAKE SURE THAT THE VOLTMETER IS CONNECTED BOTH NEGATIVE AND
POSITIVE
> DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY.
>
> I BELIEVE THIS MIGHT BE YOUR PROBLEM.
>
> FAIR WINDS
>
> ERIC
>
> KIMBERLITE AMEL SUPER MARAMU #376
>
> < div>
>
> FROM: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
> SENT: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:51 PM
> TO: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> SUBJECT: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting
Battery
>
> Jim,
>
> I think the only person(s) capable of answering your start battery
> question is the previous owner and/or the person that installed
that
> Bluesea battery monitor because Amel did not. Assuming that it is
> installed correctly (it sounds like that could require a leap of
> faith), you probably have a short in the 12vdc alternator on the
> generator... But that is a wild guess.
>
> And, the starting battery is 12vdc and the house battery system is
> 24vdc. They should be isolated from each other.
>
> Have you located the shunt on the negative side of the starting
> battery? Where is it? Take a photo? I think you probably have an
> installation problem with your monitor.
>
> Bill Rouse
> BeBe Amel 53 #387
> Sent from my tablet
> +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
>
> On Apr 25, 2016 7:12 PM, "ldesalvo@bigplanet.com [amelyachtowners]"
> <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Group
>
> I have a question regarding my 6.5 KW Onan Generator and the
voltage
> reading of my starting battery when the Generator is running. When
my
> generator is off and not running the starting battery voltage
reading
> on
> my Bluesea system monitor reads 12.8 volts but when I turn the
> generator
> on the voltage reading is only 3.5 volts. Also it appears that when
I
> turn the glow plugs on prior to starting the generator the
grounding
> relay is activated and once the generator is started the grounding
> relay
> turns off. Does anyone have an idea why my Bluesea monitor is
reading
> low starting battery voltage when the generator is running and how
to
> correct it?
>
> Also should the starting battery negative terminal be connected to
the
>
> negative terminal of the house batteries? I do not see a link
between
> the two at this time.
>
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Jim, S/V Liebling SM #207
> Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Retractable bow thrusters

amelforme
 

I am sure this might ruffle a few feathers so I will apologize to anyone who feels ‘ruffled’ up front. Sorry, but this is necessary.

I was working for Amel when the bow thruster was designed, prototyped, tested and improved. I was still with Amel during the evolutions of the bow thruster, owned two Super Maramu’s myself, privately, with the original and the ‘improved’ bow thrusters, have sold over 300 Amel boats with the bow thruster installed ( the majority of which were used boats and had to stand up to, most of the time, the scrutiny of surveyors I have personally trained on what to look for when surveying Amel boats ), and have performed all the maintenance, repair and upgrade/improvement modifications more times than I can remember. I feel I am qualified to have an opinion on these bow thrusters, though those of you who know me personally know I never have much of an opinion about anything. Smiley Face here.

 

All this talk of watery bilges is much ado about nothing. I can state unequivocally that if your bow thruster is in the proper state of repair and is adjusted correctly, it will provide excellent service and remain leak free. A complete top to bottom service and adjustment at the annual or there-about haul out takes maybe four hours the first time and about half of that thereafter. All this brouhaha about these simple and reliable units being a diabolical constant maintenance opportunity is just not true.

 

I think most of these ‘problems’ come from well-intentioned new owners of second hand boats not getting an adequate ‘check out’ and deep instruction on the things found on Amel boats that are different from other cruising yachts from the people they bought them from. It takes me at least two full days and usually more to impart these things to every new owner of an Amel that I resell and gives them the confidence to be sure the maintenance procedures are done correctly if this new owner chooses to have someone else do them. As with all specialized machinery, it is of utmost importance that any hands on be accomplished by someone with experience or the willingness to learn. If someone ever tells you something on your Amel is ‘Stupid/dumb/wrong/misguided/foolish… it is usually the NOT INVENTED HERE SYNDROME in full bloom. Because they either have never seen something like the bow thruster or Amel drive or… Worse is when they have never laid hands on the system but are sure it is junk because they are infallible ‘Rhodes Scholars of Marine Maintenance’. In thirty five years of doing Amel business, I have seen so much equipment ruined by those who are unfamiliar with the things they attempt to repair or, worse yet again, try to ‘improve’ it. Be very careful who you let work on your boat least they molest it.

 

The basic things all ‘new to them’ Amel owners need to get checked out on are the thruster, Amel C Drive/transmission/subframe system, furling motors and gearbox care and maintenance, the Amel ‘full floating/full earth return’ DC electrical system, the engine and generator electrical isolation system, the stray current/galvanic dissipation system, the location of all the electrical components/switches/circuit breakers/power and ground junctions and access panels that allow quick inspections of all electrical services. Of course there are more but this is the minimum.

 

So my friends, if your bow thruster leaks, it needs adjustment and/or repairs/maintenance. Be kind to it in operation. Let it rest for at least three seconds before changing prop direction rotation. Don’t ever make it do more work than is necessary as there is a finite amount of work it can do before an overhaul is needed. You can take this amount of available work e out quickly, or more slowly, the choice is yours. The bow thruster is not fused for good reasons discussed here before. It will catch fire if you abuse it severely. Really.

 

The bow thruster is one of the reasons our gals sail with us. No more, “Jump Honey!” dockside.

 

My main purpose for this diatribe is to be helpful to Amel owners. My secondary purpose is more selfish. Remember, people who are investigating Amel ownership READ EVERY WORD WRITTEN IN THIS FORUM. I have had people refuse to look at boats with an owner who always complains about things they don’t yet understand or fully relate the often self created calamities they have endured. At best, a very small but not inconsiderable ammount of the stuff written here just scares potential buyers away and, perhaps, reduces resale values.

 

Whew!

 

Above all, have fun with your Amel, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

     

 


Re: What size of anchor Rockna for Maramu.

davidlambertsen <no_reply@...>
 

Jean Paul,  thank you for posting the photos, that is very useful.  David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Jim

 

A couple of years ago I changed my Xantec monitor to a Victron Monitor which advertised that it would measure the house batteries and the starter motor battery for me. I thought this would be really good as well as the fact that it integrates with the other Victron products and allows me to gather together all the charging, inverting solar power data etc and remotely monitor these. Problem is on the Amel the house batteries and started battery are isolated from each other and the Victron battery monitor relies on them sharing the –ve to measure load and voltage correctly. I therefore get pretty much a random value usually around 3 volts on the starter battery recorded – it does vary a bit but essentially it is random as the two systems are isolated from each other. I wonder if you are experiencing the same thing -  I just decided to live with it rather than making any changes to the isolation that is clearly there by design.

 

Andrew

 

 

Ronpische

SM 472

Canet–en-Roussillon

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 26 April 2016 06:18
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

 

 

Eric and Bill,

Thank you for your speedy comments and warnings. I will share your
input with my electrician tomorrow and get back to you.

Jim SM #207

On 2016-04-25 21:46, sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] wrote:
> JIM,
>
> AS BILL MENTIONED THE GENERATOR/ENGINE START BATTERY NEGATIVE SHOULD
> NOT BE CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE BANK.
>
> THE GENERATOR HAS A FLOATING GROUND WHICH MEANS AS SOON AS THE
> GENERATOR IS STARTED THE GENERATOR IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE BATTERY,
> THE ONLY THING THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE BATTERY WHEN THE GENERATOR IS
> RUNNING IS THE ISOLATED GROUND ALTERNATOR.
>
> DID YOU CHECK TO SEE WHERE THE LEADS FOR THE BLUE SEAS VOLT METER ARE
> CONNECTED?
>
> IF IT HAS ITS GROUND HOOKED TO THE GENERATOR YOU WILL GET AN ERRONEOUS
> READING AS IT IS NO LONGER CONNECTED TO THE BATTERY. WHAT READING DO
> YOU GET WHEN THE ENGINE IS RUNNING?
>
> MAKE SURE THAT THE VOLTMETER IS CONNECTED BOTH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE
> DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY.
>
> I BELIEVE THIS MIGHT BE YOUR PROBLEM.
>
> FAIR WINDS
>
> ERIC
>
> KIMBERLITE AMEL SUPER MARAMU #376
>
> < div>
>
> FROM: amelyachtowners@...
> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
> SENT: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:51 PM
> TO: amelyachtowners@...
> SUBJECT: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery
>
> Jim,
>
> I think the only person(s) capable of answering your start battery
> question is the previous owner and/or the person that installed that
> Bluesea battery monitor because Amel did not. Assuming that it is
> installed correctly (it sounds like that could require a leap of
> faith), you probably have a short in the 12vdc alternator on the
> generator... But that is a wild guess.
>
> And, the starting battery is 12vdc and the house battery system is
> 24vdc. They should be isolated from each other.
>
> Have you located the shunt on the negative side of the starting
> battery? Where is it? Take a photo? I think you probably have an
> installation problem with your monitor.
>
> Bill Rouse
> BeBe Amel 53 #387
> Sent from my tablet
> +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
>
> On Apr 25, 2016 7:12 PM, "ldesalvo@... [amelyachtowners]"
> <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Group
>
> I have a question regarding my 6.5 KW Onan Generator and the voltage
> reading of my starting battery when the Generator is running. When my
> generator is off and not running the starting battery voltage reading
> on
> my Bluesea system monitor reads 12.8 volts but when I turn the
> generator
> on the voltage reading is only 3.5 volts. Also it appears that when I
> turn the glow plugs on prior to starting the generator the grounding
> relay is activated and once the generator is started the grounding
> relay
> turns off. Does anyone have an idea why my Bluesea monitor is reading
> low starting battery voltage when the generator is running and how to
> correct it?
>
> Also should the starting battery negative terminal be connected to the
>
> negative terminal of the house batteries? I do not see a link between
> the two at this time.
>
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Jim, S/V Liebling SM #207
> Puerto Vallarta, Mexico
>
> ----
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

ldesalvo@...
 

Eric and Bill,

Thank you for your speedy comments and warnings. I will share your input with my electrician tomorrow and get back to you.

Jim SM #207


On 2016-04-25 21:46, sailormon kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] wrote:
JIM,
AS BILL MENTIONED THE GENERATOR/ENGINE START BATTERY NEGATIVE SHOULD
NOT BE CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE BANK.
THE GENERATOR HAS A FLOATING GROUND WHICH MEANS AS SOON AS THE
GENERATOR IS STARTED THE GENERATOR IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE BATTERY,
THE ONLY THING THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE BATTERY WHEN THE GENERATOR IS
RUNNING IS THE ISOLATED GROUND ALTERNATOR.
DID YOU CHECK TO SEE WHERE THE LEADS FOR THE BLUE SEAS VOLT METER ARE
CONNECTED?
IF IT HAS ITS GROUND HOOKED TO THE GENERATOR YOU WILL GET AN ERRONEOUS
READING AS IT IS NO LONGER CONNECTED TO THE BATTERY. WHAT READING DO
YOU GET WHEN THE ENGINE IS RUNNING?
MAKE SURE THAT THE VOLTMETER IS CONNECTED BOTH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE
DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY.
I BELIEVE THIS MIGHT BE YOUR PROBLEM.
FAIR WINDS
ERIC
KIMBERLITE AMEL SUPER MARAMU #376
< div>
FROM: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
SENT: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:51 PM
TO: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
SUBJECT: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery
Jim,
I think the only person(s) capable of answering your start battery
question is the previous owner and/or the person that installed that
Bluesea battery monitor because Amel did not. Assuming that it is
installed correctly (it sounds like that could require a leap of
faith), you probably have a short in the 12vdc alternator on the
generator... But that is a wild guess.
And, the starting battery is 12vdc and the house battery system is
24vdc. They should be isolated from each other.
Have you located the shunt on the negative side of the starting
battery? Where is it? Take a photo? I think you probably have an
installation problem with your monitor.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Apr 25, 2016 7:12 PM, "ldesalvo@bigplanet.com [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello Group
I have a question regarding my 6.5 KW Onan Generator and the voltage
reading of my starting battery when the Generator is running. When my
generator is off and not running the starting battery voltage reading
on
my Bluesea system monitor reads 12.8 volts but when I turn the
generator
on the voltage reading is only 3.5 volts. Also it appears that when I
turn the glow plugs on prior to starting the generator the grounding
relay is activated and once the generator is started the grounding
relay
turns off. Does anyone have an idea why my Bluesea monitor is reading
low starting battery voltage when the generator is running and how to
correct it?
Also should the starting battery negative terminal be connected to the
negative terminal of the house batteries? I do not see a link between
the two at this time.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Jim, S/V Liebling SM #207
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

eric freedman
 

Jim,

As bill mentioned the Generator/engine start battery negative should not be connected to the house bank.

The generator has a floating ground which means as soon as the generator is started the generator is disconnected from the battery, The only thing that is connected to the battery when the generator is running is the Isolated ground Alternator.

 

Did you check to see where the leads for the Blue Seas volt meter are connected?

If it has its ground hooked to the generator you will get an erroneous reading as it is no longer connected to the battery. What reading do you get when the engine is running?

Make sure that the voltmeter is connected both negative and positive directly to the battery.

I believe this might be your problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

 

 

Jim,

I think the only person(s) capable of answering your start battery question is the previous owner and/or the person that installed that Bluesea battery monitor because Amel did not. Assuming that it is installed correctly (it sounds like that could require a leap of faith), you probably have a short in the 12vdc alternator on the generator... But that is a wild guess.

And, the starting battery is 12vdc and the house battery system is 24vdc. They should be isolated from each other.

Have you located the shunt on the negative side of the starting battery? Where is it? Take a photo? I think you probably have an installation problem with your monitor.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 25, 2016 7:12 PM, "ldesalvo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Group

I have a question regarding my 6.5 KW Onan Generator and the voltage
reading of my starting battery when the Generator is running. When my
generator is off and not running the starting battery voltage reading on
my Bluesea system monitor reads 12.8 volts but when I turn the generator
on the voltage reading is only 3.5 volts. Also it appears that when I
turn the glow plugs on prior to starting the generator the grounding
relay is activated and once the generator is started the grounding relay
turns off. Does anyone have an idea why my Bluesea monitor is reading
low starting battery voltage when the generator is running and how to
correct it?

Also should the starting battery negative terminal be connected to the
negative terminal of the house batteries? I do not see a link between
the two at this time.

Thank you for your help in advance.
Jim, S/V Liebling SM #207
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator and Starting Battery

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jim,

I think the only person(s) capable of answering your start battery question is the previous owner and/or the person that installed that Bluesea battery monitor because Amel did not. Assuming that it is installed correctly (it sounds like that could require a leap of faith), you probably have a short in the 12vdc alternator on the generator... But that is a wild guess.

And, the starting battery is 12vdc and the house battery system is 24vdc. They should be isolated from each other.

Have you located the shunt on the negative side of the starting battery? Where is it? Take a photo? I think you probably have an installation problem with your monitor.

Bill Rouse
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On Apr 25, 2016 7:12 PM, "ldesalvo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Group

I have a question regarding my 6.5 KW Onan Generator and the voltage
reading of my starting battery when the Generator is running. When my
generator is off and not running the starting battery voltage reading on
my Bluesea system monitor reads 12.8 volts but when I turn the generator
on the voltage reading is only 3.5 volts. Also it appears that when I
turn the glow plugs on prior to starting the generator the grounding
relay is activated and once the generator is started the grounding relay
turns off. Does anyone have an idea why my Bluesea monitor is reading
low starting battery voltage when the generator is running and how to
correct it?

Also should the starting battery negative terminal be connected to the
negative terminal of the house batteries? I do not see a link between
the two at this time.

Thank you for your help in advance.
Jim, S/V Liebling SM #207
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

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Onan Generator and Starting Battery

ldesalvo@...
 

Hello Group

I have a question regarding my 6.5 KW Onan Generator and the voltage reading of my starting battery when the Generator is running. When my generator is off and not running the starting battery voltage reading on my Bluesea system monitor reads 12.8 volts but when I turn the generator on the voltage reading is only 3.5 volts. Also it appears that when I turn the glow plugs on prior to starting the generator the grounding relay is activated and once the generator is started the grounding relay turns off. Does anyone have an idea why my Bluesea monitor is reading low starting battery voltage when the generator is running and how to correct it?

Also should the starting battery negative terminal be connected to the negative terminal of the house batteries? I do not see a link between the two at this time.

Thank you for your help in advance.
Jim, S/V Liebling SM #207
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico


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Re: Enclosure fasteners

francesringley@...
 

Eric, that is generally right except there is no bungee cord on mine. Only a vinyl strap that is attached to the curtain/weather cloth.


Ian
SM153 Local Lola II


Re: Enclosure fasteners

francesringley@...
 

Ha. A circumnavigator and a comedian, eh? (I put the "eh" in there just to enforce the stereotype).


Ian
SM153 Local Lola II


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Well, that explains it. Canadians would not have plastic because it is too cold there for plastic. Hahahaha!

Have you ever done a Google image search?

I have found hard to find parts this way when I don't have a part number. I do not have a good enough Internet connection here to help you with it.

Good luck.

Bill Rouse
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On Apr 25, 2016 9:53 AM, "francesringley@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The bimini company I went to is fairly big/reputable here in Toronto area. Yes we looked through their catalogues. Next on the hit parade will be when we get to the States.

Would be nice if I could put this in the Internet of Things :)


Ian
SM153 Loca Lola II


Re: Enclosure fasteners

francesringley@...
 

The bimini company I went to is fairly big/reputable here in Toronto area. Yes we looked through their catalogues. Next on the hit parade will be when we get to the States.

Would be nice if I could put this in the Internet of Things :)


Ian
SM153 Loca Lola II


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Did the company have and check a catalog? 

If not, maybe another company might have a catalog.

Bill Rouse
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On Apr 25, 2016 9:39 AM, "francesringley@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill. Yes, I took it to a bimini company and they hadn't seen it either!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

francesringley@...
 

Thanks Bill. Yes, I took it to a bimini company and they hadn't seen it either!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian,

I have never seen that before. It is possible that Amel used this, but I doubt it.

Irregardless of whether it is Amel original or not. Take it to someone who makes biminis...they will/should have a catalog if fasteners available.

Bill Rouse
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On Apr 25, 2016 9:08 AM, "francesringley@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I posted a photo of the fastener. Has anyone seen these before?


Ian Townsend
SM153 Loca Lola II


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

francesringley@...
 

I posted a photo of the fastener. Has anyone seen these before?


Ian Townsend
SM153 Loca Lola II


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

eric freedman
 

I believe he is looking for the little bungee cords with the toggle that holds the rear

weather cloth to the seats and the cockpit sole.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

 

 

Can't help you there Ian.  I don't have that.  I'd like to see a pic, though.

Kent


On Apr 24, 2016, at 9:15 AM, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent:

 

I have a curtain that zips at the top to the canopy that pulls out from the hard dodger. It also fastens to side windows. It has a zipper door and drops vertically down to the cockpit floor. I would post a picture but I am not aboard right now. Will try to do this next month when I am back.







Ian Townsend

SM153 Loca Lola II

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Enclosure fasteners

karkauai
 

Can't help you there Ian.  I don't have that.  I'd like to see a pic, though.
Kent


On Apr 24, 2016, at 9:15 AM, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent:


I have a curtain that zips at the top to the canopy that pulls out from the hard dodger. It also fastens to side windows. It has a zipper door and drops vertically down to the cockpit floor. I would post a picture but I am not aboard right now. Will try to do this next month when I am back.



Ian Townsend
SM153 Loca Lola II