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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

Sorry for the confusion...I said Prickly Bay Marina in my first email...I was wrong. It is Spice Island Marine Services

Talk to Susie simsco"at"spiceisle.com. Tell her that Bill BeBe referred you.
Tel:+473 444 4342/4257 Fax:(473)+473 444 2816 444-2816 ,VHF Channel 16, 68

Haul-out facilities (70 ton travelift)

Bill 
BeBe 387


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Ben,

They did when we were there, so yes, I am certain. I will warn you that workers in yards have the habit of disconnecting shore power when they need to plug in a tool, then forgetting to plug it back in. You will really need someone there to check your boat and power daily. This applies to any yard we have been hauled at.

Talk to Susie simsco"at"spiceisle.com. Tell her that Bill BeBe referred you.
Spice Island Marine Services
P.O. Box 449, True Blue, St. George's, Grenada , (NW end of Prickly Bay beyond the Grenada Coast Guard pier)
Tel:+473 444 4342/4257 Fax:(473)+473 444 2816 444-2816 ,VHF Channel 16, 68
Water, fuel, toilets, laundry, WiFi. Haul-out facilities (70 ton travelift) and a complete array of services, including an electronics/radar/radio technician. 
A bar and restaurant and a Budget Marine Store chandlery are in the complex.

Bill 

BeBe 387

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does Prickly Bay Marina have the ability to leave boat hooked to shore power on the hard?

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On May 2, 2016, at 10:18 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

We have hauled out at Prickly Bay Marina and found them very good.

There is a new haulout at Clarke's Court Bay...newer and bigger lift and the same price as Prickly...do not know any more than that.

There are at least two others.

Bill
BeBe
St. Lucia

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We are moving our boat out of hurricane box from St Martin to Grenada next month.    We will be back in California for three months visiting family so a little uncomfortably leaving boat in the water unless closely managed by someone.  We could use a recommendation for safe place to leave the boat there - preferably out of the water. We would appreciate an recommendations. 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

They did when we were there, so yes, I am certain. I will warn you that workers in yards have the habit of disconnecting shore power when they need to plug in a tool, then forgetting to plug it back in. You will really need someone there to check your boat and power daily. This applies to any yard we have been hauled at.

Talk to Susie simsco"at"spiceisle.com. Tell her that Bill BeBe referred you.
Spice Island Marine Services
P.O. Box 449, True Blue, St. George's, Grenada , (NW end of Prickly Bay beyond the Grenada Coast Guard pier)
Tel:+473 444 4342/4257 Fax:(473)+473 444 2816 444-2816 ,VHF Channel 16, 68
Water, fuel, toilets, laundry, WiFi. Haul-out facilities (70 ton travelift) and a complete array of services, including an electronics/radar/radio technician. 
A bar and restaurant and a Budget Marine Store chandlery are in the complex.

Bill 

BeBe 387

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does Prickly Bay Marina have the ability to leave boat hooked to shore power on the hard?

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On May 2, 2016, at 10:18 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

We have hauled out at Prickly Bay Marina and found them very good.

There is a new haulout at Clarke's Court Bay...newer and bigger lift and the same price as Prickly...do not know any more than that.

There are at least two others.

Bill
BeBe
St. Lucia

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We are moving our boat out of hurricane box from St Martin to Grenada next month.    We will be back in California for three months visiting family so a little uncomfortably leaving boat in the water unless closely managed by someone.  We could use a recommendation for safe place to leave the boat there - preferably out of the water. We would appreciate an recommendations. 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Does Prickly Bay Marina have the ability to leave boat hooked to shore power on the hard?

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On May 2, 2016, at 10:18 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

We have hauled out at Prickly Bay Marina and found them very good.

There is a new haulout at Clarke's Court Bay...newer and bigger lift and the same price as Prickly...do not know any more than that.

There are at least two others.

Bill
BeBe
St. Lucia

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We are moving our boat out of hurricane box from St Martin to Grenada next month.    We will be back in California for three months visiting family so a little uncomfortably leaving boat in the water unless closely managed by someone.  We could use a recommendation for safe place to leave the boat there - preferably out of the water. We would appreciate an recommendations. 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

We have hauled out at Prickly Bay Marina and found them very good.

There is a new haulout at Clarke's Court Bay...newer and bigger lift and the same price as Prickly...do not know any more than that.

There are at least two others.

Bill
BeBe
St. Lucia

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We are moving our boat out of hurricane box from St Martin to Grenada next month.    We will be back in California for three months visiting family so a little uncomfortably leaving boat in the water unless closely managed by someone.  We could use a recommendation for safe place to leave the boat there - preferably out of the water. We would appreciate an recommendations. 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347




Re: Replacement or repair of the Scheiber 110 to 230 volt transformer

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I have the same setup transformer in my boat.  So far, I have not found a marina in the Caribbean that does not have 220v power so I have not used it.


I do have a question on this transformer:  when one has this unit, does it serve as an isolation transformer as well as step-up unit?  It does seem having this unit wired between shore power and the boat may isolate the boat from stray currents ... but not sure.  I would be great to a more educated opinion.


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

We are moving our boat out of hurricane box from St Martin to Grenada next month.    We will be back in California for three months visiting family so a little uncomfortably leaving boat in the water unless closely managed by someone.  We could use a recommendation for safe place to leave the boat there - preferably out of the water. We would appreciate an recommendations. 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347



mast painting

INUS - BUSCH
 

After some research with the help of Maude from AMEL and AkzoNobel and many others I found the color which was used for the mast painting of my Sharki (Nirvana mast): The color is AWL GRIP G8479 Amel beige.

It is not in the normal range of colors, but International Yaacht Painting a branch of AkzoNobel mixed it for me.
I ordered 3 U.S. Quarts (nearly 3 L) together with the right amount of hardener: 3 cans of the topcoat converter H3002 (AWL-CAT #3), because it is a two component system. First I wanted to lie down the two masts and get them painted on the hard, but than I decided to leave the masts upright and only change the rigging with the masts upright. And I will only repaint the oxidized parts of the aluminium, which means I had ordered too much paint.

If somebody is interested I will sell two new unused cans Amel beige (each 1  U.S. Quart) together with the second component AWL-CAT #3. I think 90 EUR is a fair price (I paid 400 EUR), plus the shipping costs. My email is: inusbusch ett yahoo.de

BTW: The new rigging I got from ACMO, and they did an excellent job. A very good and uncomplicated partner.

Dieter
Sharki #135


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C ground fault?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

I am certainly no electrician or expert, but I'll share my thoughts...

First guess: I am 99% sure that your power may be wired wrong in an attempt by someone to bridge US and EU power. The blue wire you mention should be the EU "Return" line. The brown is the "Hot" line. With that blue line connected, everything off, and disconnected from shore power do you have continuity between the 220 power line yellow/green and blue? If there is not, without turning on the generator or plugging into shore power, turn ON the AC breaker for the unit in question and check continuity. I believe that if you find continuity you need to find an electrician.

Next test is plug into shore power. Have all of the breakers off. Check for voltage between blue and shore power yellow/green. If you have voltage there is a shore power wiring problem...find an electrician.

Second guess is that the ground fault is at the A/C that you removed the return (blue) wire. Removing that will prevent the ground fault to be sensed. Possibly the saltwater path and the electric current path are somehow crossed?

I hope these random thoughts help you find the issue.

BTW, I believe that the most common ground fault on a SM that is wired correctly is electro-thermal heating elements. Most common is the water heater, followed by the SM2k dishwasher, then the SM2k clothes washer.

I have seen way too many SMs shore power wired incorrectly for US schemes. Check the DVD I gave you for a job named: Shore Power Wiring or something like that.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 2, 2016 10:04 AM, "Gary Wells gary@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Greetings, SM 209 is trying to tease me with an intermittent trip of the master breaker.
Three air conditioners (we normally only ever run two of them simultaneously) everything aboard works fine until, for no discernable reason the master breaker will trip at either genset start or dock plug-in and not reset.
I first thought it might be a problem at the dock with stray current or bad power at the post because it had not occurred before. A few days later it did it again on genset.
I'm not sure I can explain the luck in discovering that if the blue wired leg of the forward air conditioner was disconnected from the system it solved the issue, but that's what it seems to be.
While I cannot recreate the fault on demand, I can solve it by pulling that A/C offline.
I did notice a bit of corrosion across the big (40ùf) compressor start capacitor so I changed that out. I changed out the compressor start relay a year ago. It seemed to solve it until a couple of days ago when it tripped again right upon genset start.
This morning it's at it again. I think the relay and capacitor were not players.

Any ideas on where to start with this? The unit is NOT powered on when this happens so it has to be something going into the the control box and I'm not sure where to start looking for a 0.03Amp leak. I am fairly certain it's not directly related to fan motor, compressor or temperature control 'modules' since nothing is active at the time of the trip. Maybe it's a stray chafe somewhere along that run, or some strange short at the connector block but I can't puzzle out why it only happens once in every 20 genset starts.

Thanks,

Gary W.
"Adagio", SM 209
BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C ground fault?

Jean-Pierre Germain <jgermain@...>
 

Same thing for us. I believe breakers become weaker with frequent tripping. We changed our old AC's to Webasto but also we changed the breaker... No probs since...

Jean-Pierre
SY Eleuthera SM007



On 2 May 2016, at 16:02, Gary Wells gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Greetings, SM 209 is trying to tease me with an intermittent trip of the master breaker.
Three air conditioners (we normally only ever run two of them simultaneously) everything aboard works fine until, for no discernable reason the master breaker will trip at either genset start or dock plug-in and not reset.
I first thought it might be a problem at the dock with stray current or bad power at the post because it had not occurred before. A few days later it did it again on genset.
I'm not sure I can explain the luck in discovering that if the blue wired leg of the forward air conditioner was disconnected from the system it solved the issue, but that's what it seems to be.
While I cannot recreate the fault on demand, I can solve it by pulling that A/C offline.
I did notice a bit of corrosion across the big (40ùf) compressor start capacitor so I changed that out. I changed out the compressor start relay a year ago. It seemed to solve it until a couple of days ago when it tripped again right upon genset start.
This morning it's at it again. I think the relay and capacitor were not players.

Any ideas on where to start with this? The unit is NOT powered on when this happens so it has to be something going into the the control box and I'm not sure where to start looking for a 0.03Amp leak. I am fairly certain it's not directly related to fan motor, compressor or temperature control 'modules' since nothing is active at the time of the trip. Maybe it's a stray chafe somewhere along that run, or some strange short at the connector block but I can't puzzle out why it only happens once in every 20 genset starts.

Thanks,

Gary W.
"Adagio", SM 209
BVI


Climma A/C ground fault?

Gary Wells
 

Greetings, SM 209 is trying to tease me with an intermittent trip of the master breaker.
Three air conditioners (we normally only ever run two of them simultaneously) everything aboard works fine until, for no discernable reason the master breaker will trip at either genset start or dock plug-in and not reset.
I first thought it might be a problem at the dock with stray current or bad power at the post because it had not occurred before. A few days later it did it again on genset.
I'm not sure I can explain the luck in discovering that if the blue wired leg of the forward air conditioner was disconnected from the system it solved the issue, but that's what it seems to be.
While I cannot recreate the fault on demand, I can solve it by pulling that A/C offline.
I did notice a bit of corrosion across the big (40ùf) compressor start capacitor so I changed that out. I changed out the compressor start relay a year ago. It seemed to solve it until a couple of days ago when it tripped again right upon genset start.
This morning it's at it again. I think the relay and capacitor were not players.

Any ideas on where to start with this? The unit is NOT powered on when this happens so it has to be something going into the the control box and I'm not sure where to start looking for a 0.03Amp leak. I am fairly certain it's not directly related to fan motor, compressor or temperature control 'modules' since nothing is active at the time of the trip. Maybe it's a stray chafe somewhere along that run, or some strange short at the connector block but I can't puzzle out why it only happens once in every 20 genset starts.

Thanks,

Gary W.
"Adagio", SM 209
BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster problem

bobparry1947
 

We have solved our bow thruster problem and we are feeling a little red-faced. After close inspection, we found that the bolt that tightens the bracket holding the rod to the top of the piston had loosened. You would think that, having owned the boat for nearly 12 years, we would have noticed it immediately. In our defence, we usually see the bow thruster when it is up and the piston is down.

Thank you for your feedback.

Ann and Bob Parry
S/Y  "Nowornot"
Supermaramu #33

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Steve.  If there is a light on the panel that indicates when the BT is fully up or down, there is a sensor sending that signal.  On Kristy these sensors are integral to the worm drive.  It's a PITA to get it out, but undoubtedly that's where your problem lies.  It sounds to me like it could be both mechanical and electrical.

Let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The older bow thrusters like the one on my hull #72 do not have any sensors. I suspect it is something mechanical, but not sure what. I'm sure someone out there must have experienced this problem, and can shed some light on it. 

Steve Davis
Aloha #72
Currently in Martinique

On Apr 27, 2016, at 08:14, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Bob,

Sorry about your problem…
This reminds me what happened to me October 2014
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_sensor.html
Looks to me a problem with the sensors that slide, but since my vessel is from 2000 they could be different.
Please keep up posted and good luck…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/27/16, Bob Parry ra.parry2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster problem
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 7:04 AM


 









Hi all,

We have just encountered
the following problem with our bow thruster. The thruster is
DOWN. When we engage the "up" switch, it
immediately gives the signal that the thruster is up and
nothing happens. When we engage the "down" switch,
the piston spins, causing the wire to become twisted. We
have yet to dismantle it but it appears as though there is a
mechanical problem with a worm drive and maybe an electrical
problem. Has anybody encountered a similar problem? We have
the original Bison bow thruster from 1990. (Apologies for
not doing a search before writing this email.

Bob and Ann Parry
"Nowornot", Amel Supermaramu
#33
Brisbane











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

Jean Boucharlat
 

James,

 

I do not know about the Maramu hull#220 but I do know that if you are with Michel Charpentier, you are in good hands. He is the most knowledgeable broker in Europe with regard to Amel boats, and, most importantly he is a man of great integrity.

 

Good luck with your purchase,

 

Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: samedi 30 avril 2016 12:23
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

 

 

Hello again,

 

   I just found out that the Maramu that I am planning to purchase is hull #220.

 

Thanks,

 

James

On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@... in case anyone would prefer to respond via email. 

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.  

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

James Alton
 

Jean,

  I believe that you are right on all counts.

Best,
James

On Apr 30, 2016, at 4:51 PM, 'Jean Boucharlat' jean.boucharlat@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

 

I do not know about the Maramu hull#220 but I do know that if you are with Michel Charpentier, you are in good hands. He is the most knowledgeable broker in Europe with regard to Amel boats, and, most importantly he is a man of great integrity.

 

Good luck with your purchase,

 

Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: samedi 30 avril 2016 12:23
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

 

  

Hello again,

 

   I just found out that the Maramu that I am planning to purchase is hull #220.

 

Thanks,

 

James

On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@... in case anyone would prefer to respond via email. 

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.  

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

James Alton
 

JPG,

  Thanks a lot.  Best of luck on your journeys with Eleuthera.

James

On Apr 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi James,

Michel is a top notch broker and he would not list a hulk. 

Get Olivier Beauté to survey the vessel.  

GL with the buy

Jpg

Eleuthera SM007


On 30 Apr 2016, at 12:22, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello again,


   I just found out that the Maramu that I am planning to purchase is hull #220.

Thanks,

James
On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@... in case anyone would prefer to respond via email. 

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.  

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

James Alton
 

Trevor,

   I am very impressed with Michel.  He seems to be very honest, easy to talk to and to the point.  I felt comfortable enough to wire him $$ without any actual paperwork at the time which is not something I would normally do but he is one of those people that you just know it’s ok.   If things do not work out with Sueno for some reason I will definitely have him look for another boat for me.  

  Could you tell me more about the psychology behind the design that you mentioned?  

  I believe that I recall a post recently that talked about backing a SM down a narrow canal in South Florida with barely a foot of clearance on each side using the bow thruster to illustrate the capabilities but don’t recall who posted it.  I do like the concept of keeping a boat simple but the research that I did convinced me that the Amel BT is worthy of the additional maintenance.  As a part of my research I  came across an amazing story of how the Amel BT likely saved a SM  (and possibly the crew) that had gone up on an exposed reef in gale force winds.  The story if anyone is interested is available on You Tube.  I am not clear on whether links are allowed so just search You Tube with “SV Delos Copenhagen”.  Then choose the 3rd video (#3) in that group and advance to time stamp 8:18.  

   Thanks for passing along Michel’s tip to you about retaining control of the bow until alongside, noted.   Sueno will be the first vessel I have owned which had a bow thruster.  Am I correct that the Maramu bow thruster will be 12v and considerably less powerful than the SM?  I wonder if they share the same components..  As to trusting the Amel bits,  I probably should mention that I have worked on so many poorly designed boats that required modifications and upgrading to even function that this is an all new concept for me.  It was however the genius that I saw in the Amel  that I inspected along with the workmanship that drew me in originally and it does seem logical to extend that to the Amel “bits” that I am not familiar with.  Nothing would make me happier than to find that the design in all areas was so well thought out that only maintenance was required.  

All the best to you Trevor and I hope that you can find what you are looking for.

James

  

  

On Apr 30, 2016, at 11:43 AM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James,

          I have dealt with Michel Charpentier on two occasions. He is simply straight as a die and a pleasure to do business with.
If I were lucky enough to be looking for another Amel it would be Joel in the USA and Michel in Europe with Oliver as the surveyor, that way you minimise you risk. 
With the purchase of a boat through Michel or Joel, they will give you a number days training to instruct you in not only the practical workings of Amel, but equally the psychology behind the design.
Your recent concerns regarding bow thrusters  being a case in point, properly maintained they are excellent. I am surprised that no one mention that the Super Maramu is designed to be maneuvered stern to when docking using the bow thruster, Michel told me that on my first day and it was simple ever since,just NEVER hand over the bow warp until you are along side.
Good luck with your search, the bits built by Amel will not let you down, as ever, the more that you can reduce the moving parts, the more time you will have for sailing.
I am only sorry that Amel no longer build smaller boats, it has been a real pain trying to find a worthy replacement for my SM.
Fair winds,
Trevor Lusty
Former owner Seafever of Cuan
SM 425
Ireland







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

Jean-Pierre Germain <jgermain@...>
 

Hi James,

Michel is a top notch broker and he would not list a hulk. 

Get Olivier Beauté to survey the vessel.  

GL with the buy

Jpg

Eleuthera SM007


On 30 Apr 2016, at 12:22, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello again,


   I just found out that the Maramu that I am planning to purchase is hull #220.

Thanks,

James
On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@... in case anyone would prefer to respond via email. 

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.  

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

seafeverofcuan@...
 

James,
          I have dealt with Michel Charpentier on two occasions. He is simply straight as a die and a pleasure to do business with.
If I were lucky enough to be looking for another Amel it would be Joel in the USA and Michel in Europe with Oliver as the surveyor, that way you minimise you risk. 
With the purchase of a boat through Michel or Joel, they will give you a number days training to instruct you in not only the practical workings of Amel, but equally the psychology behind the design.
Your recent concerns regarding bow thrusters  being a case in point, properly maintained they are excellent. I am surprised that no one mention that the Super Maramu is designed to be maneuvered stern to when docking using the bow thruster, Michel told me that on my first day and it was simple ever since,just NEVER hand over the bow warp until you are along side.
Good luck with your search, the bits built by Amel will not let you down, as ever, the more that you can reduce the moving parts, the more time you will have for sailing.
I am only sorry that Amel no longer build smaller boats, it has been a real pain trying to find a worthy replacement for my SM.
Fair winds,
Trevor Lusty
Former owner Seafever of Cuan
SM 425
Ireland





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

James Alton
 

Hello again,

   I just found out that the Maramu that I am planning to purchase is hull #220.

Thanks,

James

On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@... in case anyone would prefer to respond via email. 

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.  

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James



Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

James Alton
 

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@aol.com in case anyone would prefer to respond via email.

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling

Beaute Olivier
 

Good morning,

since 1989, the engine room fans (on SMs and 54s) are 24V ones, running with 12V. This was designed on purpose, in order to make their life longer. In fact, if you install 12V fans, they will constantly run with 14V+ (because of the engine alternator) and will quickly quit (after 200 hours).
The fans run as soon as you power the engine with the key. This means you can run the fans without running the engine...but bear in mind that you will drain the starter battery after a few hours...
Of course the amount of air circulated is less than if the fans were powered with 24V, but it is still far enough (as you can feel when you put your hand on the air deck output.

The 230V fan that is located above the generator runs only once the generator is started.

Have a good day.


On Friday, April 29, 2016 4:31 AM, "Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hey Joel. The fans come on as soon as the key is turned on, and prior to the engine actually starting. 

Steve

On Apr 28, 2016, at 18:01, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hi Steve. Do the fans run when the starting system is enabled but not actually cranking or does the diesel need to be running for the fans to power up?
 
Joel
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:38 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
 
 
My 1992 SM has 24v fans which run off the 12v circuit. I thought it odd when I first figured this out, but have been told this is how Amel designed the system. 
 
Steve
Aloha SM72
Martinique

On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:35, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Thanks for this information Alexandre. Hmmmmm. Back in the mid 1990’s, I had a SM 53 demonstrator that I could have sworn today that the blower ran off the 24 volt alternator. I am far from salt water today but when I get back to Fort Lauderdale next week I will check out an early/pre Millennium boat as well as a 2003 boat and see what is what. Anyone with a pre 1999 Super Maramu reading this, does your fan come on when you energize the start circuit or only after the engine starts and the alternator is turning? Perhaps this evolved over the years like many other things.
 
Joel
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 8:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
 
 
Good morning Joel,

Thanks for your reply, actually this is from the 12 Volt alternateur it runs off.

My question is why the 24 volt Fans are connected to a 12 Volt circuit?
The manual says “both 24 V devices work intentionally on 12 V deliver by the main engine alternator” but does not explain why.
http://nikimat.com/engine_room_fans/engine_room_fan_15.jpg

To make sure it was the fan being defective, I started the Volvo and measured 13 volt (on the wires going to the fan).
Later I also connected directly on 24 volt and it did not work. Will get replacement once I am in Puerto Rico in 2 or 3 weeks.

Removing it, yesterday I was the manufacturer date (1999) so quite impressed it last 16 years…
I remember changing the intake one 3 years ago

Thanks again!
Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Wed, 4/27/16, Joel Potter jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and cooling
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 7:01 PM


 









The engine room fan that operates when the
propulsion diesel is running runs off the 24 volt
alternator. Fire up your Yanmar and check the voltage then.
It has been my experience that the 24 volt DC extractor
fails well before the 220 volt extractor that is run from
the Onan when it is producing 220 volts. Non scientific
opinion but pretty much proven by my
experiences.
Hope your
extractor fan fires up on 24 volts!

Joel THE EXPERIENCED AMEL
GUY954-812-2485
On Apr 27,
2016, at 2:50 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Update:



Looking at the owner manual, I just saw the engine, in
addition to the intake fan, has also an extraction fan FASCO
24 Volt 2807-513-122 --- 93004-2815

http://nikimat.com/engine_room_fans.html



Engine on, I noted it was not working and likely the cause
of the warmer engine room.



With a Volt Meter I checked current was going to it and it
did: measured 13 Volt.

It seems normal as the owner manual says so…



Does someone know why this “24 Volt” FASCO 2807-513-122
--- 93004-2815 is connected to a 12 volt connection?



Olivier?

Joel?

Bill? Anyone?



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 4/27/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine room temperature and
cooling

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 10:54 AM





Good morning,



May be I am a control freak, but when using the engine
or

genset I monitor the temperature of the engine
compartment

via a wireless temperature sensor. 



I rarely use the engine for more than an hour at the
time

(mostly to leave and come back to a marina), but in a
few

occasions had to motor for 10 or more hours.

The temperature in the engine room, will gradually
increase;

when it reaches 47*C I open the engine hatch (sea
condition

permitting obviously) for 1/2 hour to cool it down to
45*C

and so on. 

“My” reason to do this is because of component from
the

generator melting at 50*C. 



Note:  the “suction” (intake) 24 Volt Jabsco

35440-0010 250 CFM Blower Fan is working (starts when
engine

is ON). 



Is there may be an air intake our outtake that could be

partially blocked? 

Is there another fan I am forgetting about? 





Other note: when using the Generator, it rarely goes
over

46*C after 2.5 hour use (its fan is also working).



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican

Republic
























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