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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi guys. You might keep in mind you can life the motor with the mizzenmast ballooned Halyard using the main sheet winch. 
Use a bridle to balance the lift. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On May 3, 2016, at 17:29, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

OK. Thanks.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 

 

Mike, Just take out the bolts that attach the frame to the C drive. Oliver said the C drive would not drop any , but I placed a wood block under it to be safe. I was surprised ,but the rubber bushings in  the coupler were like new , and saw no need to replace them , saved some work.

Pat

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 11:06 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 

Hi Pat,

In doing this with the boat in the water I presume one cannot move the c-drive. It would seem the engine needs to be separated from the c-drive (I want to replace the coupler donuts anyway). How is the engine frame moved given that the c-drive frame is mounted to the engine frame?

Mike

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Mike, I have been wondering what you determined was the problem. I thought you would find it to be a motor mount. I just replaced mine last fall , with those mounts and it greatly reduced the vibration. I would suggest that you also replace the bolts that secure the mounts to the stringers. I found the threads a little degraded. I saw no reason to separate the engine from the frame and shifted the engine and frame aft still connected , no problems. I placed a 4x4 across the boat resting next to the winches and used a come along to slightly raise the engine. I placed the 4x4 slightly aft of the lifting point to induce the engine to swing aft and then forward to induce moving forward . You will need some blocks to rest the engine on while you replace the mounts. See ya back on the Bay.

Good Luck,

Pat SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 10:39 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

After completing our passage of 1500nm including 130 hrs with a knocking in the auxiliary system except at a sweet spot at 1450RPM, we’ve identified the culprit in the starboard aft motor mount. Apparently severed.

The Vetus type Mitsteun appears to be the exact part but the description seems to indicate application for a smaller engine. Reads as follows; “This hydro-damper is a combination of a conventional rubber-metal damper and a hydraulic shock absorber. Especially for engines with 1, 2 or 3 cylinders, producing many horizontal and vertical movements, the VETUS hydro-damper is an absolute sensation: the reduction of vibration and noise is truly staggering. The maximum static load per support is 60 kg and the maximum thrust per support is 50 kg. In other words: dependent on gearbox ratio, number of revolutions, propeller diameter etc., these mountings are suitable for en gines of up to 18 - 26 kW (25 - 35 HP).”

The TMD22 weighs around 220KG but these 4 mounts also support the steel frame and some of the c-drive. The spacing of the mounts fore and aft would seem to put more load on the forward mounts than the aft.

Anyway, while the HP rating on the mounts seems light, the fact that they are original equipment would indicate they are proper. Available from Defender for $185 ea.

I am just looking for confirmation that this is the right part.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

James Alton
 

Hello,

   Does a manual exist for the Maramu covering the systems etc. and if so where can I obtain one?  

Thanks,

James

On Apr 30, 2016, at 1:36 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Jean,


  I believe that you are right on all counts.

Best,
James
On Apr 30, 2016, at 4:51 PM, 'Jean Boucharlat' jean.boucharlat@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

 

I do not know about the Maramu hull#220 but I do know that if you are with Michel Charpentier, you are in good hands. He is the most knowledgeable broker in Europe with regard to Amel boats, and, most importantly he is a man of great integrity.

 

Good luck with your purchase,

 

Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: samedi 30 avril 2016 12:23
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information about Amel 1987 Maramu Sueno

 

  

Hello again,

 

   I just found out that the Maramu that I am planning to purchase is hull #220.

 

Thanks,

 

James

On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

I am in the process of purchasing the 1987 Maramu listed on Yacht World named “Sueno” currently located in Italy. I have not seen the vessel in person as of yet but plan to do so soon. I was hoping that someone here might know the boat and know something about her history. I am aware that she has been sitting for at least 2 years and will need a lot of service work but I am told that there are not any major issues. The listing agent is Mr. Michel Charpentier in St. Raphael, France. My email is Lokiyawl@... in case anyone would prefer to respond via email. 

I want to thank all of the members that helped me by giving me input on the various Amel models, especially the Maramu. Also for all of the great information on the Amel bow thruster which this particular boat has.  

I contacted Amel btw regarding the regular servicing of the bow thruster and was given a rough labour estimate of 3 hours to change seals and oil which aligns very well with Joel’s estimate that was recently posted. I am very excited about the prospects of soon being an Amel owner and know that I have a lot to learn about the Amel’s, feel free to help enlighten me.

Best,

James

 






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck refinishing

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Peter,

Is it the stripes or the faux boards between the stripes.

Are you referring to Amel Caraibes which is in Martinique?

We just left Martinique and are in St Lucia...maybe we can help...and there is at least two Amels in Martinique that I can contact.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 4, 2016 6:11 AM, "peterbernhard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My 2000 super maramu is in BVI. I am looking for a facility that could refinish the decking (getting worn). I heard there is a good facility in Martinique. Anyone know the name?


Thanks 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Atlantic Tower Arch

Duane Siegfri
 

No need for exact measurements Pat. They are close enough in area two LG315's should fit. I will mount the arch first and then measure prior to ordering.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Atlantic Tower Arch

Patrick McAneny
 

Duane, You are correct , I installed three Kyocera 140's. In six months last winter in the Caribbean ,I never ran the gen. for power . I built my own mount using Stainless tubing and incorporated davits for my rib. I would have to go out to the boat and measure, but I would guess they hang forward of the arch about a foot and aft about 18 inches. If you need exact measurements let me know.
 
Pat SM #123
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 5:34 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Atlantic Tower Arch

 
Pat,

Apologies for replying to an old thread! 

Atlantic Towers have some photos up of your installation, and I was wondering what solar panels you used and how much they overhang the LOA of the boat.

I'm looking at two panels that total 80 inches athwartship, which will require a frame on top of the arch, and 65 inches fore and aft (they are the LG315's).  That feels like a lot of flat area on the back of the boat but they'll produce 630 watts at full rating.  I'm guessing (from the photo) you used three Kyocera 140's, which take up about the same space as two of the LG315's except the LG's have an additional 5.5" of length.
 

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Atlantic Tower Arch

Duane Siegfri
 

Pat,

Apologies for replying to an old thread! 

Atlantic Towers have some photos up of your installation, and I was wondering what solar panels you used and how much they overhang the LOA of the boat.

I'm looking at two panels that total 80 inches athwartship, which will require a frame on top of the arch, and 65 inches fore and aft (they are the LG315's).  That feels like a lot of flat area on the back of the boat but they'll produce 630 watts at full rating.  I'm guessing (from the photo) you used three Kyocera 140's, which take up about the same space as two of the LG315's except the LG's have an additional 5.5" of length.
 

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Mike Ondra
 

OK. Thanks.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 

 

Mike, Just take out the bolts that attach the frame to the C drive. Oliver said the C drive would not drop any , but I placed a wood block under it to be safe. I was surprised ,but the rubber bushings in  the coupler were like new , and saw no need to replace them , saved some work.

Pat

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 11:06 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 

Hi Pat,

In doing this with the boat in the water I presume one cannot move the c-drive. It would seem the engine needs to be separated from the c-drive (I want to replace the coupler donuts anyway). How is the engine frame moved given that the c-drive frame is mounted to the engine frame?

Mike

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Mike, I have been wondering what you determined was the problem. I thought you would find it to be a motor mount. I just replaced mine last fall , with those mounts and it greatly reduced the vibration. I would suggest that you also replace the bolts that secure the mounts to the stringers. I found the threads a little degraded. I saw no reason to separate the engine from the frame and shifted the engine and frame aft still connected , no problems. I placed a 4x4 across the boat resting next to the winches and used a come along to slightly raise the engine. I placed the 4x4 slightly aft of the lifting point to induce the engine to swing aft and then forward to induce moving forward . You will need some blocks to rest the engine on while you replace the mounts. See ya back on the Bay.

Good Luck,

Pat SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 10:39 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

After completing our passage of 1500nm including 130 hrs with a knocking in the auxiliary system except at a sweet spot at 1450RPM, we’ve identified the culprit in the starboard aft motor mount. Apparently severed.

The Vetus type Mitsteun appears to be the exact part but the description seems to indicate application for a smaller engine. Reads as follows; “This hydro-damper is a combination of a conventional rubber-metal damper and a hydraulic shock absorber. Especially for engines with 1, 2 or 3 cylinders, producing many horizontal and vertical movements, the VETUS hydro-damper is an absolute sensation: the reduction of vibration and noise is truly staggering. The maximum static load per support is 60 kg and the maximum thrust per support is 50 kg. In other words: dependent on gearbox ratio, number of revolutions, propeller diameter etc., these mountings are suitable for en gines of up to 18 - 26 kW (25 - 35 HP).”

The TMD22 weighs around 220KG but these 4 mounts also support the steel frame and some of the c-drive. The spacing of the mounts fore and aft would seem to put more load on the forward mounts than the aft.

Anyway, while the HP rating on the mounts seems light, the fact that they are original equipment would indicate they are proper. Available from Defender for $185 ea.

I am just looking for confirmation that this is the right part.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bowthruster engine TF15

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Welcome to the forum Peter,

Congratulations for your SM #003 !!! And you can’t make a better choice than having Amel refitting her! You know it will be done the way it is supposed to!

I doubt people will want to sell their spare (unless they intend to sell their boats), but if you find an alternate solution let us know.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic




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On Tue, 5/3/16, mallamok@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bowthruster engine TF15
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016, 2:52 PM


 









Hi allI am new on
this forum. I bought a AMEL SM last year (S/N 003) and I am
refittig her in La Rochelle.There are
many  things to do, in the moment I have a problem with the
bowthruster moteur (Leyroy-Somer TF15). After changing the
It needs a new winding wich is quite expensive. (aprox.
2k€)Does somebody have a spare engine
for sale?Thank you
Peter SY Wilson SM
003










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bowthruster engine TF15

Peter Jaeger
 

Hi all

I am new on this forum. I bought a AMEL SM last year (S/N 003) and I am refittig her in La Rochelle.

There are many  things to do, in the moment I have a problem with the bowthruster moteur (Leyroy-Somer TF15). After changing the It needs a new winding wich is quite expensive. (aprox. 2k€)

Does somebody have a spare engine for sale?

Thank you

Peter

SY Wilson SM 003



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike, Just take out the bolts that attach the frame to the C drive. Oliver said the C drive would not drop any , but I placed a wood block under it to be safe. I was surprised ,but the rubber bushings in  the coupler were like new , and saw no need to replace them , saved some work.
Pat
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 11:06 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 
Hi Pat,

In doing this with the boat in the water I presume one cannot move the c-drive. It would seem the engine needs to be separated from the c-drive (I want to replace the coupler donuts anyway). How is the engine frame moved given that the c-drive frame is mounted to the engine frame?

Mike

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Mike, I have been wondering what you determined was the problem. I thought you would find it to be a motor mount. I just replaced mine last fall , with those mounts and it greatly reduced the vibration. I would suggest that you also replace the bolts that secure the mounts to the stringers. I found the threads a little degraded. I saw no reason to separate the engine from the frame and shifted the engine and frame aft still connected , no problems. I placed a 4x4 across the boat resting next to the winches and used a come along to slightly raise the engine. I placed the 4x4 slightly aft of the lifting point to induce the engine to swing aft and then forward to induce moving forward . You will need some blocks to rest the engine on while you replace the mounts. See ya back on the Bay.

Good Luck,

Pat SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 10:39 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

After completing our passage of 1500nm including 130 hrs with a knocking in the auxiliary system except at a sweet spot at 1450RPM, we’ve identified the culprit in the starboard aft motor mount. Apparently severed.

The Vetus type Mitsteun appears to be the exact part but the description seems to indicate application for a smaller engine. Reads as follows; “This hydro-damper is a combination of a conventional rubber-metal damper and a hydraulic shock absorber. Especially for engines with 1, 2 or 3 cylinders, producing many horizontal and vertical movements, the VETUS hydro-damper is an absolute sensation: the reduction of vibration and noise is truly staggering. The maximum static load per support is 60 kg and the maximum thrust per support is 50 kg. In other words: dependent on gearbox ratio, number of revolutions, propeller diameter etc., these mountings are suitable for en gines of up to 18 - 26 kW (25 - 35 HP).”

The TMD22 weighs around 220KG but these 4 mounts also support the steel frame and some of the c-drive. The spacing of the mounts fore and aft would seem to put more load on the forward mounts than the aft.

Anyway, while the HP rating on the mounts seems light, the fact that they are original equipment would indicate they are proper. Available from Defender for $185 ea.

I am just looking for confirmation that this is the right part.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I suspected they may be busy so I emailed for availability.  I don't plan to have anything running except the battery charger so if accidentally disconnected from power for a week should not be a problem.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On May 3, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Dennis Johns sbmesasailor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

One thing Bill neglected to mention is that Spice Island Marine Services has filled to capacity in the past (don't know if that will be the case this year but they are sufficiently out of the hurricane corridor according to insurance companies) so if you plan to haul out there, you might need to make a reservation.  We hauled out there last Feb and in addition to yard storage, we opted for a monthly check where they open up the boat to air it out and check for leaks as well as check to make sure the shore power is still on.  We have the shore power on only for the battery charger as we had a terrible experience with a yard worker unplugging us in Barcelona and we had the refrigerator on with food in it.  Even if it had been checked once a month the mess could still have occurred, so we always empty the fridge and the freezer and leave them open when we leave now.  It's not cheap ($734/mo) but not much in the Caribbean is.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121
Spice Island Marine Services
Grenada


Re: Haul-out facilities in Grenada

sbmesasailor
 

One thing Bill neglected to mention is that Spice Island Marine Services has filled to capacity in the past (don't know if that will be the case this year but they are sufficiently out of the hurricane corridor according to insurance companies) so if you plan to haul out there, you might need to make a reservation.  We hauled out there last Feb and in addition to yard storage, we opted for a monthly check where they open up the boat to air it out and check for leaks as well as check to make sure the shore power is still on.  We have the shore power on only for the battery charger as we had a terrible experience with a yard worker unplugging us in Barcelona and we had the refrigerator on with food in it.  Even if it had been checked once a month the mess could still have occurred, so we always empty the fridge and the freezer and leave them open when we leave now.  It's not cheap ($734/mo) but not much in the Caribbean is.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121
Spice Island Marine Services
Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Ian and Linda,

We know Gerald and Brigette from Jet Lag, and they are back home in Switzerland now. Hope you guys are doing well. Liz and I are on the water enroute Martinique to Trinidad for a haul, and should be in Grenada by mid June. Have a good summer and will see you in the fall. 

Steve and Liz
Aloha SM72
Enroute to Trinidad

On May 3, 2016, at 10:33, parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We are hauling out at Clarke's Court in two days time. Visited the yard today and all looks fine, but as it just opened last year there is still work in progress on the back up infrastructure like cafe, accommodation chandlers etc. but boat storage and security are looking good. There is one SM already out - 'jet Lag'. Don't know them yet.

Ian and Linda

Ocean Hobo. SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Replacement or repair of the Scheiber 110 to 230 volt transformer

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks Derick,
I suspect you are correct; the transformer does not protect boat from stray current.  I may need to add an solution transformer 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On May 3, 2016, at 7:31 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,


As a followup to my original post, I have not yet tackled removal of the 110 volt to 230 volt transformer to see if it can be repaired, nor have I been able to find any blown fuse or tripped circuit breaker on this circuit. This has been a low priority because instead I have been able to find 220 service throughout the Caribbean, and use the 220 cable instead with the appropriate US or EU adaptor.  

Nonetheless, when I installed a metered galvanic isolator like the one BeBe (Bill Rouse) posted in the photos section, I had the electrician install it next to the 110/220 volt plug box on the engine room forward bulkhead, connected in series to the ground outgoing cables in such a way that it would operate no matter whether the 110 volt cable or the 220 volt cable was in use.  Thus, no matter which cable is connected to shore ground, the galvanic isolator is connected and functioning to prevent stray current via the shore ground.

I realize that this response does not directly answer your question about whether the 110 to 220 volt transformer acts as an isolation transformer.  That question is beyond my expertise.  However, I do know that the ground wires coming into the 110/220 volt plug box on the engine room forward bulkhead go to a common point within that box, and I therefore expect that stray current/voltage from either of the shore cables would enter the boat undeterred by the presence of the 110 to 220 volt transformer (and hence the need for the installation of the galvanic isolator).  

I hope others with more electrical knowledge than me will address your question better.

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava
"Currently" in Sapphire Beach Marina, Saint Thomas, USVI



Re: Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Ian Park
 

We are hauling out at Clarke's Court in two days time. Visited the yard today and all looks fine, but as it just opened last year there is still work in progress on the back up infrastructure like cafe, accommodation chandlers etc. but boat storage and security are looking good. There is one SM already out - 'jet Lag'. Don't know them yet.

Ian and Linda

Ocean Hobo. SN96


Deck refinishing

peterbernhard@...
 

My 2000 super maramu is in BVI. I am looking for a facility that could refinish the decking (getting worn). I heard there is a good facility in Martinique. Anyone know the name?


Thanks 


Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Mike,
There was good discussion on this last July as Patrick was getting going on replacing - you can check those posts. Bottom line was that the Vetus specs you're reading are for a conventional engine installation, where the mounts are taking the full thrust and torque of the engine, whereas our Amel installation has no thrust load on the engine mounts and little torque load. Once again, the Captain got it right.
Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mdondra@...> wrote :

After completing our passage of 1500nm including 130 hrs with a knocking in the auxiliary system except at a sweet spot at 1450RPM, we’ve identified the culprit in the starboard aft motor mount. Apparently severed.

The Vetus type Mitsteun appears to be the exact part but the description seems to indicate application for a smaller engine. Reads as follows; “This hydro-damper is a combination of a conventional rubber-metal damper and a hydraulic shock absorber. Especially for engines with 1, 2 or 3 cylinders, producing many horizontal and vertical movements, the VETUS hydro-damper is an absolute sensation: the reduction of vibration and noise is truly staggering. The maximum static load per support is 60 kg and the maximum thrust per support is 50 kg. In other words: dependent on gearbox ratio, number of revolutions, propeller diameter etc., these mountings are suitable for engines of up to 18 - 26 kW (25 - 35 HP).”

The TMD22 weighs around 220KG but these 4 mounts also support the steel frame and some of the c-drive. The spacing of the mounts fore and aft would seem to put more load on the forward mounts than the aft.

Anyway, while the HP rating on the mounts seems light, the fact that they are original equipment would indicate they are proper. Available from Defender for $185 ea.

I am just looking for confirmation that this is the right part.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD

 

 

 


Re: Replacement or repair of the Scheiber 110 to 230 volt transformer

Derick Gates
 

Ben,

As a followup to my original post, I have not yet tackled removal of the 110 volt to 230 volt transformer to see if it can be repaired, nor have I been able to find any blown fuse or tripped circuit breaker on this circuit. This has been a low priority because instead I have been able to find 220 service throughout the Caribbean, and use the 220 cable instead with the appropriate US or EU adaptor.  

Nonetheless, when I installed a metered galvanic isolator like the one BeBe (Bill Rouse) posted in the photos section, I had the electrician install it next to the 110/220 volt plug box on the engine room forward bulkhead, connected in series to the ground outgoing cables in such a way that it would operate no matter whether the 110 volt cable or the 220 volt cable was in use.  Thus, no matter which cable is connected to shore ground, the galvanic isolator is connected and functioning to prevent stray current via the shore ground.

I realize that this response does not directly answer your question about whether the 110 to 220 volt transformer acts as an isolation transformer.  That question is beyond my expertise.  However, I do know that the ground wires coming into the 110/220 volt plug box on the engine room forward bulkhead go to a common point within that box, and I therefore expect that stray current/voltage from either of the shore cables would enter the boat undeterred by the presence of the 110 to 220 volt transformer (and hence the need for the installation of the galvanic isolator).  

I hope others with more electrical knowledge than me will address your question better.

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava
"Currently" in Sapphire Beach Marina, Saint Thomas, USVI



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Mike Ondra
 

Thanks Pat. If you have extra rail bolts we would be happy to purchase 8.

Did you have any concerns about the weight rating of these Vetus mounts?

Mike



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 9:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts





Mike , Jamestown marine has the mounts for $168.00 . If I can do anything to facilitate the delivery of the mounts to you , let me know. I think I bought the bolts from Mc Master -Carr , and had to buy a bag of them. I know I gave Gary Wells eight of the bolts at the Annapolis boat show. I will check to see if I have eight left.



Pat





-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 10:39 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts



After completing our passage of 1500nm including 130 hrs with a knocking in the auxiliary system except at a sweet spot at 1450RPM, we’ve identified the culprit in the starboard aft motor mount. Apparently severed.

The Vetus type Mitsteun appears to be the exact part but the description seems to indicate application for a smaller engine. Reads as follows; “This hydro-damper is a combination of a conventional rubber-metal damper and a hydraulic shock absorber. Especially for engines with 1, 2 or 3 cylinders, producing many horizontal and vertical movements, the VETUS hydro-damper is an absolute sensation: the reduction of vibration and noise is truly staggering. The maximum static load per support is 60 kg and the maximum thrust per support is 50 kg. In other words: dependent on gearbox ratio, number of revolutions, propeller diameter etc., these mountings are suitable for en gines of up to 18 - 26 kW (25 - 35 HP).”

The TMD22 weighs around 220KG but these 4 mounts also support the steel frame and some of the c-drive. The spacing of the mounts fore and aft would seem to put more load on the forward mounts than the aft.

Anyway, while the HP rating on the mounts seems light, the fact that they are original equipment would indicate they are proper. Available from Defender for $185 ea.

I am just looking for confirmation that this is the right part.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike , Jamestown marine has the mounts for $168.00 . If I can do anything to facilitate the delivery of the mounts to you , let me know. I think I bought the bolts from Mc Master -Carr , and had to buy a bag of them. I know I gave Gary Wells eight of the bolts at the Annapolis boat show. I will check to see if I have eight left.
 
Pat
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 10:39 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 
After completing our passage of 1500nm including 130 hrs with a knocking in the auxiliary system except at a sweet spot at 1450RPM, we’ve identified the culprit in the starboard aft motor mount. Apparently severed.
The Vetus type Mitsteun appears to be the exact part but the description seems to indicate application for a smaller engine. Reads as follows; “This hydro-damper is a combination of a conventional rubber-metal damper and a hydraulic shock absorber. Especially for engines with 1, 2 or 3 cylinders, producing many horizontal and vertical movements, the VETUS hydro-damper is an absolute sensation: the reduction of vibration and noise is truly staggering. The maximum static load per support is 60 kg and the maximum thrust per support is 50 kg. In other words: dependent on gearbox ratio, number of revolutions, propeller diameter etc., these mountings are suitable for en gines of up to 18 - 26 kW (25 - 35 HP).”
The TMD22 weighs around 220KG but these 4 mounts also support the steel frame and some of the c-drive. The spacing of the mounts fore and aft would seem to put more load on the forward mounts than the aft.
Anyway, while the HP rating on the mounts seems light, the fact that they are original equipment would indicate they are proper. Available from Defender for $185 ea.
I am just looking for confirmation that this is the right part.
Thanks,
Mike Ondra
ALETES SM#240, Rock Hall, MD