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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Morning Dove

David Wallace
 

Hi Joel,

Yes, the loss of Morning Dove is very sad, but of course we’re glad that the entire crew was safely rescued.  We met Bruce and saw Morning Dove last spring in Puerto Escondido, Baja California Sur.  She was a beautiful boat.

Also, you have found the current owners of the Maramu formerly named Independence, Maramu #104. My wife and I are the fifth owners, having bought the boat in 2000. She had gone through two name changes since the Chamberlains owned her (Jezebel, then Doing It) , and we changed it again to her great delight. She is now named Air Ops, and is in great shape.  Since 2007 we have kept her in Mexican waters, home-porting her in Puerto Escondido and sailing her about ½ each year in the Sea of Cortez and down the Mexican Pacific coast.

Dave and Merry Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Amel Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez, Mexico

On May 7, 2016, at 4:35 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Mr. Alton, the information on MORNING DOVE was forwarded to me by Bill Kinney, a customer and now friend who recently purchased a Super Maramu 53 called HARMONIE from me. Bill on Bebe had nothing to do with this sequence. I sold MORNING DOVE to the original owner who kept the boat in Door County Wisconsin on Lake Michigan. I later sold it to Howard and Mary Chamberlain who renamed it MORNING DOVE. Coincidentally, the Chamberlains previously owned the first Maramu sold to Americans in 1982. That boat was called Independence and I sold it several times but have lost track of it. Anyone out there own a 1982 Maramu that was previously called Independence? I should have connected the name with the Amel Maramu, but I have also sold a 53 Amel called MORNING DOVE.

Howard and Mary sold the MORNING DOVE to the current owner, I believe, who had the misfortune of losing her recently. Glad nobody was hurt. Sad end to a great boat.

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Alton [mailto:Lokiyawl2@...] 
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Joel Potter <jfpottercys@...>; Bill & Judy Rouse <svbebe@...>
Subject: Morning Dove

 

Bill and Joel,

 

   It appears that there may be some confusion.  I believe that SV Morning Dove is a Maramu 46,  not a SM.   Do search on You Tube,  Bruce has a number of videos of his travels on Morning Dove.  He was also last reported in the Marquesas.   Very sad.

 

James=




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fwd: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

amelforme
 

Least there be any doubt, as I stated previously, that boat that was just lost on a reef in the Pacific was, absolutely for certain, a Maramu and not a Super Maramu .I saw that boat come out of the mold and sold it to the first two owners. It was a very sweet and extremely well preserved example when I sold it last.

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 


Re: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Looking at the pictures of the vessel in question, it appears to be a Maramu.  Consider the shape of the side windows on its hard dodger.

An unfortunate incident, this of Morning Dove, and a reminder that electronic charts are to be used with extreme care.  In Peregrinus, we currently carry two different vector charts and one raster chart for the area we are cruising.

Regards,


Peregrinus
SM2K No. 350
At anchor, Fort de Brégançon (7 NM east of Hyères)



FW: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: Morning Dove

amelforme
 

The 53 Super Maramu once named MORNING DOVE has long since had its name changed. Can’t remember the new name…

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 7:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: Morning Dove

 

 

Joel,

 

   Thanks for the information.  Do you know the current whereabouts of the 53 named Morning Dove?   The last general position report for the 46’ Maramu named Morning Dove was in the area of the report.

 

   I  sent the email to Bill Rouse since I know that he tends to monitor the Yahoo Groups site and would like to correct any errors. 

 

News:  Bill just posted that the apparent confusion is due to the owner  (Bruce) of the Maramu 46 providing listing his boat as a Super Maramu.

 

Need to get back to work.  Sad loss regardless.

 

Best,

 

James

 

 

On May 7, 2016, at 8:35 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Mr. Alton, the information on MORNING DOVE was forwarded to me by Bill Kinney, a customer and now friend who recently purchased a Super Maramu 53 called HARMONIE from me. Bill on Bebe had nothing to do with this sequence. I sold MORNING DOVE to the original owner who kept the boat in Door County Wisconsin on Lake Michigan. I later sold it to Howard and Mary Chamberlain who renamed it MORNING DOVE. Coincidentally, the Chamberlains previously owned the first Maramu sold to Americans in 1982. That boat was called Independence and I sold it several times but have lost track of it. Anyone out there own a 1982 Maramu that was previously called Independence? I should have connected the name with the Amel Maramu, but I have also sold a 53 Amel called MORNING DOVE. 

Howard and Mary sold the MORNING DOVE to the current owner , I believe, who had the misfortune of losing her recently. Glad nobody was hurt. Sad end to a great boat.

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Alton [mailto:Lokiyawl2@...] 
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Joel Potter <jfpottercys@...>; Bill & Judy Rouse <svbebe@...>
Subject: Morning Dove

 

Bill and Joel,

 

   It appear s that there may be some confusion.  I believe that SV Morning Dove is a Maramu 46,  not a SM.   Do search on You Tube,  Bruce has a number of videos of his travels on Morning Dove.  He was also last reported in the Marquesas.   Very sad.

 

James=

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: Morning Dove

James Alton
 

Joel,

   Thanks for the information.  Do you know the current whereabouts of the 53 named Morning Dove?   The last general position report for the 46’ Maramu named Morning Dove was in the area of the report.

   I  sent the email to Bill Rouse since I know that he tends to monitor the Yahoo Groups site and would like to correct any errors. 

News:  Bill just posted that the apparent confusion is due to the owner  (Bruce) of the Maramu 46 providing listing his boat as a Super Maramu.

Need to get back to work.  Sad loss regardless.

Best,

James


On May 7, 2016, at 8:35 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Mr. Alton, the information on MORNING DOVE was forwarded to me by Bill Kinney, a customer and now friend who recently purchased a Super Maramu 53 called HARMONIE from me. Bill on Bebe had nothing to do with this sequence. I sold MORNING DOVE to the original owner who kept the boat in Door County Wisconsin on Lake Michigan. I later sold it to Howard and Mary Chamberlain who renamed it MORNING DOVE. Coincidentally, the Chamberlains previously owned the first Maramu sold to Americans in 1982. That boat was called Independence and I sold it several times but have lost track of it. Anyone out there own a 1982 Maramu that was previously called Independence? I should have connected the name with the Amel Maramu, but I have also sold a 53 Amel called MORNING DOVE. 

Howard and Mary sold the MORNING DOVE to the current owner , I believe, who had the misfortune of losing her recently. Glad nobody was hurt. Sad end to a great boat.

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Alton [mailto:Lokiyawl2@...] 
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Joel Potter <jfpottercys@...>; Bill & Judy Rouse <svbebe@...>
Subject: Morning Dove

 

Bill and Joel,

 

   It appear s that there may be some confusion.  I believe that SV Morning Dove is a Maramu 46,  not a SM.   Do search on You Tube,  Bruce has a number of videos of his travels on Morning Dove.  He was also last reported in the Marquesas.   Very sad.

 

James=




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Although it makes no difference, the current owner's website describes the boat as a "46' Super Maramu."

So, I was wrong to assume that the rally made the error of naming it a "Super Maramu." That error was made by the person entering data on the current owner's website.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


FW: Morning Dove

amelforme
 

Mr. Alton, the information on MORNING DOVE was forwarded to me by Bill Kinney, a customer and now friend who recently purchased a Super Maramu 53 called HARMONIE from me. Bill on Bebe had nothing to do with this sequence. I sold MORNING DOVE to the original owner who kept the boat in Door County Wisconsin on Lake Michigan. I later sold it to Howard and Mary Chamberlain who renamed it MORNING DOVE. Coincidentally, the Chamberlains previously owned the first Maramu sold to Americans in 1982. That boat was called Independence and I sold it several times but have lost track of it. Anyone out there own a 1982 Maramu that was previously called Independence? I should have connected the name with the Amel Maramu, but I have also sold a 53 Amel called MORNING DOVE.

Howard and Mary sold the MORNING DOVE to the current owner, I believe, who had the misfortune of losing her recently. Glad nobody was hurt. Sad end to a great boat.

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Alton [mailto:Lokiyawl2@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 6:44 AM
To: Joel Potter ; Bill & Judy Rouse
Subject: Morning Dove

 

Bill and Joel,

 

   It appears that there may be some confusion.  I believe that SV Morning Dove is a Maramu 46,  not a SM.   Do search on You Tube,  Bruce has a number of videos of his travels on Morning Dove.  He was also last reported in the Marquesas.   Very sad.

 

James=


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

We were there a few years ago. This is an area where you do not want to be getting that close at night. The reefs around the atols will gobble up any boat if you try to sail over it.

The lesson is be extra careful at night in this area. Charts are not accurate, atol reefs are rarely visible on radar, lurking below the waves, and it is easy to manage daylight arrivals in the Tuamotus.

The confusion over the size was caused by the Puddlejump rally at Lattitude38. Their initial report had this Maramu as an Amel 53.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 7, 2016 6:06 AM, "Joel Potter jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 



Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

Begin forwarded message:

From: Bill Kinney <bill_9895@...>
Date: May 6, 2016 at 10:58:50 PM EDT
To: jfpottercys@...
Subject: Fw: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

Joel,

I have tried to post this to the Amel forum, but for some reason it doesn't post. Could you post it for me? I'm sure people would want to know!

Bill Kinney


From: Bill <bill_9895@...>;
To: <amelyachtowners@...>;
Subject: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2016 1:51:37 AM

Hello All,

Got this email from the Pacific Puddle Jump this morning.  It is all I know.  Sounds like everyone is OK, but a sad time for Bruce and crew...

Puddle Jumpers,

We're sorry to inform you that one of our fleet was lost on a reef in the Tuamotus Tuesday night.

According to captain Bruce Moroney, at 8 pm the Alaska-based Amel 53 Morning Dove was motoring from Apataki Atoll to Rangiroa, when the boat struck something beneath the surface, which turned out to be a portion of reef.

It was a dark, moonless night, with no wind and light seas. Bruce says he was monitoring his chart plotter and radar at the time. 

As the boat listed over and was pushed farther inshore by surf, the crew activated their EPIRB and put out a mayday via SSB and VHF. They had spent time previously preparing for such an emergency, including assigning each crew specific tasks. Wisely, they stayed with the boat while awaiting rescue, rather than deploying their liferaft.

At 2 a.m. the four crew on board were hoisted to safety within a French Navy helicopter, and were taken to Rangiroa. They flew to Papeete yesterday and are now on their way home.
 
We wish Bruce and his crew the best of luck in whatever comes next. 

-- Pacific Puddle Jump event staff

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


Re: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

James Alton
 

I have been following Bruce via his Youtube videos on SV Morning Dove.  Unless there is some confusion, Morning Dove is a Maramu 46,  not a Super Maramu.   This is very sad news indeed.

James


Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

amelforme
 



Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

Begin forwarded message:

From: Bill Kinney <bill_9895@...>
Date: May 6, 2016 at 10:58:50 PM EDT
To: jfpottercys@...
Subject: Fw: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump

Joel,

I have tried to post this to the Amel forum, but for some reason it doesn't post. Could you post it for me? I'm sure people would want to know!

Bill Kinney


From: Bill <bill_9895@...>;
To: <amelyachtowners@...>;
Subject: Sad news from the Pcific Puddle Jump
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2016 1:51:37 AM

Hello All,

Got this email from the Pacific Puddle Jump this morning.  It is all I know.  Sounds like everyone is OK, but a sad time for Bruce and crew...

Puddle Jumpers,

We're sorry to inform you that one of our fleet was lost on a reef in the Tuamotus Tuesday night.

According to captain Bruce Moroney, at 8 pm the Alaska-based Amel 53 Morning Dove was motoring from Apataki Atoll to Rangiroa, when the boat struck something beneath the surface, which turned out to be a portion of reef.

It was a dark, moonless night, with no wind and light seas. Bruce says he was monitoring his chart plotter and radar at the time. 

As the boat listed over and was pushed farther inshore by surf, the crew activated their EPIRB and put out a mayday via SSB and VHF. They had spent time previously preparing for such an emergency, including assigning each crew specific tasks. Wisely, they stayed with the boat while awaiting rescue, rather than deploying their liferaft.

At 2 a.m. the four crew on board were hoisted to safety within a French Navy helicopter, and were taken to Rangiroa. They flew to Papeete yesterday and are now on their way home.
 
We wish Bruce and his crew the best of luck in whatever comes next. 

-- Pacific Puddle Jump event staff

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


Morning Dove

Duane Siegfri
 

Latitude 38 has a story about Morning Dove, an Amel 46, lost on a reef at night in the Tuamotus during the Pacific Puddle Jump. All are safe.

Diane Siegfried
Wanderer SM 477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet base forward head

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

amelforme
 

Wow, Alan. Now I am thoroughly confused. Is your bow thruster located inside of a sealed watertight containment where you have to remove an aft facing panel to gain access to the entirety of the thruster? With a little inspection/access door at the top? Or is it in an open compartment with a leather curtain hiding it from view?

 

Your production number should provide for the installation of the one with the containment and a separate shut off valve just in front of the forward air conditioner unit near the shut off valve for the chain locker.

 

I am more than curious to discover what you have aboard ELYSE. Please let me know…

 

All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 3:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

 

 

I was surprised to read that post...

Our SM is #437 and we have exactly what you describe here Joel...no drain from the bow thruster compartment

Cheers

Alan 

Elyse SM437


Sad News from the Pacific Puddle Jump

greatketch@...
 

This came in by email this morning.  It is all I know...  Sounds like everybody is OK, but a sad day for Bruce and his crew!

Puddle Jumpers,

We're sorry to inform you that one of our fleet was lost on a reef in the Tuamotus Tuesday night.

According to captain Bruce Moroney, at 8 pm the Alaska-based Amel 53 Morning Dove was motoring from Apataki Atoll to Rangiroa, when the boat struck something beneath the surface, which turned out to be a portion of reef.

It was a dark, moonless night, with no wind and light seas. Bruce says he was monitoring his chart plotter and radar at the time.

As the boat listed over and was pushed farther inshore by surf, the crew activated their EPIRB and put out a mayday via SSB and VHF. They had spent time previously preparing for such an emergency, including assigning each crew specific tasks. Wisely, they stayed with the boat while awaiting rescue, rather than deploying their liferaft.

At 2 a.m. the four crew on board were hoisted to safety within a French Navy helicopter, and were taken to Rangiroa. They flew to Papeete yesterday and are now on their way home.

We wish Bruce and his crew the best of luck in whatever comes next.

-- Pacific Puddle Jump event staff



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet base forward head

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

Since your hull number is near mine and I did this job on the aft toilet a few months ago, I can tell you a couple things.

The part is available, and it comes with all of the parts, nuts, washers, bolts, etc. that you need to do the job.

The base bolts screw into a stainless steel plate which is epoxied under the fiberglass floor.

I believe that you might find at least one of the bolts difficult to remove. If I remember correctly, there are three bolts holding the base that you have to the floor. The easiest thing to do might be to use a dremmel to cut off the plastic tabs on the base that the bolts go through, then remove the toilet. Use plenty of penetrating oil and let it sit overnight. Using a socket wrench move the bolts forward and backward until they ease and can be unscrewed. Assemble the toilet and macerator pump on the new base before installing the toilet back on the floor...this will be the easiest way to install that macerator pump and align its O ring.

Mark "Cream Puff" had a problem and broke a bolt...had to drill and retap.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 6, 2016 5:31 PM, "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The base of the toilet of my forward head is cracked.
I would like to replace it but it seems to be through bolted and
I do not see any access. Does anyone know how to access the bolts or are they
set in some material to hold them in place?
Fair Winds

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite

 

 


Toilet base forward head

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster

Alan Leslie
 

I was surprised to read that post...
Our SM is #437 and we have exactly what you describe here Joel...no drain from the bow thruster compartment
Cheers
Alan 
Elyse SM437


Terrible news from the Puddle Jump...

greatketch@...
 

I just got this note from the organizers of the Pacific Puddle Jump.  I can only wish Bruce and his family  and crew the best...

We're sorry to inform you that one of our fleet was lost on a reef in the Tuamotus Tuesday night.

According to captain Bruce Moroney, at 8 pm the Alaska-based Amel 53 Morning Dove was motoring from Apataki Atoll to Rangiroa, when the boat struck something beneath the surface, which turned out to be a portion of reef.

It was a dark, moonless night, with no wind and light seas. Bruce says he was monitoring his chart plotter and radar at the time.

As the boat listed over and was pushed farther inshore by surf, the crew activated their EPIRB and put out a mayday via SSB and VHF. They had spent time previously preparing for such an emergency, including assigning each crew specific tasks. Wisely, they stayed with the boat while awaiting rescue, rather than deploying their liferaft.

At 2 a.m. the four crew on board were hoisted to safety within a French Navy helicopter, and were taken to Rangiroa. They flew to Papeete yesterday and are now on their way home.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Haul-out facilities in Grenada

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Excellent . Thanks Gary .  The  best to you and Mary.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On May 5, 2016, at 9:59 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ben:


We have hauled out at Spice Island Marine yard 4 times.  Always had a good experience.  Our first time there was the second year the yard was open and one year before hurricane Ivan (thank goodness) the Cat 4 hurricane that destroyed all the boats in the yard and 80% of the structures on Grenada. It pushed the jacks stands through the hulls of the boats and layer them all down.  There were major improvements in the yard after that with better anchors, better positioning in a chevron pattern, and better drainage etc.  I can highly recommend the yard to you. There are laundry facilities on sight, and the Budget Marine store is in the yard as well as canvas and sail shops etc.  

As an aside, we stayed in the Cool Runnings apartments while hauling and re-commissioning.  It is about a 2 block walk from the yard.  Basic but priced right with AC, kitchenette, and comfortable beds.  Clean and secure with guard.  Small breakfast/lunch restaurant on site.  Managed by: 

Ramesh Masilamani, M.A
Administrative Manager
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sinclair Enterprises Limited
# 22, Cool Running Apartments
P. O. Box 1530
Dusty Highway, True Blue
St. George's, GRENADA
WEST INDIES
 
Tel:         (473) 440-1276
Tel/Fax:  (473) 440-8549
Mobile:  (473) 415-2901/4077

 
 

I can recommend this for 2 to 3 people. 

All the best to you and Gayle.

Gary S Silver
s/v Liahona    Amel SM #335  
Slip 1423  Puerto Del Rey  ,  Puerto Rico


 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Indigo project

Warren Traill
 

Oh great. Not sure when we are heading up to Port Douglas but fairly soon.  Maybe next week. We will let you know.
Thanks for that.
Cheers,
WandZ

Sent from Windows Mail

From: mausi@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎6‎ ‎May‎ ‎2016 ‎10‎:‎41‎ ‎p.m.
To: mausi@... [amelyachtowners]

 

Warren and Zetta,

 

Hi, I am up the coast in Port Douglas. My business is Wavelength Reef Cruises and we have a shop in the marina here where Popeye is also parked (but we live in a house!). You are very welcome to have a look. Popeye is pretty much all refitted except waiting for painting.

 

Cheers, John, 1981 Maramu #91, Popeye