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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Change forestay on Santorin

Olivier Beaute
 

Hi Antonio,

sorry that I could not reply earlier. What Craig writes is right.
The furler should go down and pass the swage. You need to shake the thread-swage while you try to move the furler (or while you push the cable upwards, as your forestay/furler assembly is lying).
You don't need to remove the black disk at the bottom of the furler (it would not bring anything more).

Bon courage.

Olivier.


On Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:25 PM, "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hello Antonio,
After you removed the rivets were you able to lift the extrusion out of its socket a few centimeters? That is where you will see the bushing - be careful not to drop it.
Did you remove the turnbuckle bottle screw so that the only thing on the end of the stay is the swaged stud bolt? If so then there should be nothing preventing the head stay from sliding out. 
Are you doing this with the mast up, or is it off the boat? If it is still up you must move the motor/gearbox assembly so you can slide the stay out.  And just to be clear, there is only one bushing but it is split in half and, no, you do not have to remove the black plastic cover.
Also, you'll need to post your photos in the photo section - they do not come through in the message text.
Cheers, Craig, SN#68 Sangaris



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi Olivier,
Thanks for your answer, I remember you sayd me in Canet to check the tension and the forestay, now I am reinstall all the new acmo rig and I don't understand how take out the old. I saw the delos video about and I understand I have to remove the furler (engine and gear) but how I can ?
I take out the rivets and the allens but the furler goes down some centimeters only and after he stop. The cable don't go up, I understand there are two bushing, but how I can remove ? In the furler down there is a plastic black cover, have I remove this ?
I send you some pics.
Br
Antonio
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Il giorno 18/mag/2016, alle ore 15:53, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 
Hello Antonio,

as I've seen your mast lying, I suppose your genoa furler with tube and forestay are lying too.
Once you have removed the turnbuckle, you have noticed that the forestay cannot go towards the top of the tube. This is because of a nylon bushing that is installed between the furler and the tube/pulley, around the forestay, just above the swage.
This bushing is made of two half-cylinders. To release this bushing, you need to remove the furler from the tube.
Then you have two solutions:
-undo the bolts at the base of the pulley (but very likely, the aluminum  pulley is seized on the furler's stainless steel hub)
-or remove the rivets that hold the pulley onto the tube
Then, you will get access to the famous bushing, remove it and move the forestay all the way to the top of the tube.

Feel free to ask if this is not clear.

Olivier.


On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:34 PM, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi owners,
I am changing the forestay but I can't understand how remove the old cable.
Is necessary remove the engine and the gearbox ?
Where I can find the instruction?
Br
Antonio
SN108 Vagabungo

Inviato da iPhone





Re: Change forestay on Santorin

Craig Briggs
 

Hello Antonio,
After you removed the rivets were you able to lift the extrusion out of its socket a few centimeters? That is where you will see the bushing - be careful not to drop it.
Did you remove the turnbuckle bottle screw so that the only thing on the end of the stay is the swaged stud bolt? If so then there should be nothing preventing the head stay from sliding out. 
Are you doing this with the mast up, or is it off the boat? If it is still up you must move the motor/gearbox assembly so you can slide the stay out.  And just to be clear, there is only one bushing but it is split in half and, no, you do not have to remove the black plastic cover.
Also, you'll need to post your photos in the photo section - they do not come through in the message text.
Cheers, Craig, SN#68 Sangaris



---In amelyachtowners@..., <stilemare@...> wrote :

Hi Olivier,
Thanks for your answer, I remember you sayd me in Canet to check the tension and the forestay, now I am reinstall all the new acmo rig and I don't understand how take out the old. I saw the delos video about and I understand I have to remove the furler (engine and gear) but how I can ?
I take out the rivets and the allens but the furler goes down some centimeters only and after he stop. The cable don't go up, I understand there are two bushing, but how I can remove ? In the furler down there is a plastic black cover, have I remove this ?
I send you some pics.
Br
Antonio





Il giorno 18/mag/2016, alle ore 15:53, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hello Antonio,

as I've seen your mast lying, I suppose your genoa furler with tube and forestay are lying too.
Once you have removed the turnbuckle, you have noticed that the forestay cannot go towards the top of the tube. This is because of a nylon bushing that is installed between the furler and the tube/pulley, around the forestay, just above the swage.
This bushing is made of two half-cylinders. To release this bushing, you need to remove the furler from the tube.
Then you have two solutions:
-undo the bolts at the base of the pulley (but very likely, the aluminum  pulley is seized on the furler's stainless steel hub)
-or remove the rivets that hold the pulley onto the tube
Then, you will get access to the famous bushing, remove it and move the forestay all the way to the top of the tube.

Feel free to ask if this is not clear.

Olivier.


On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:34 PM, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi owners,
I am changing the forestay but I can't understand how remove the old cable.
Is necessary remove the engine and the gearbox ?
Where I can find the instruction?
Br
Antonio
SN108 Vagabungo

Inviato da iPhone



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Indigo project

Warren Traill
 

Hi John. Sorry we missed you today when we visited Port Douglas. You were out sailing on Popeye. Good stuff. We will come out again next week. Is there a day that would suit you best? Let us know.

Cheers,

Warren and Zetta

Manon2

Sharki #15



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Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Indigo project





Oh great. Not sure when we are heading up to Port Douglas but fairly soon. Maybe next week. We will let you know.

Thanks for that.

Cheers,

WandZ



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Warren and Zetta,



Hi, I am up the coast in Port Douglas. My business is Wavelength Reef Cruises and we have a shop in the marina here where Popeye is also parked (but we live in a house!). You are very welcome to have a look. Popeye is pretty much all refitted except waiting for painting.



Cheers, John, 1981 Maramu #91, Popeye







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

Bob Grey
 

Bill, have found a UK after market manufacturer for discontinued B&G parts including the SOV paddle wheel. It's called A&T electronics seems to be a sister company of Tinley Electronics. 

Bob
Renaissance 3
55 #25

On Thursday, May 19, 2016, 00:05, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Bob,


If I had to bet, Airmar made that sensor.  Navonics (B&G) outsources all of these speed and . if you have a part number, Airmar can steer you to a local distributor who can get you an identical replacement.

Bill
On May 17, 2016, at 23:21, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill, thank you for your reply, I'm looking for an identical replacement otherwise it's a slip and replace with a different unit. There seem a plethora of alternatives which all require replacement on the hard.



Bob


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 12:57, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

You might try contacting Airmar.  http://airmartechnology.com/productinfo.html?category=MT&name=Marine%20Transducers 


They manufacture almost all of these types of senders and can help you find a suitable replacement.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie,  SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 17, 2016, at 22:54, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, my 2 year old B&G paddle wheel unit / sensor failed, its the type that goes through a gate valve. Part number 202-00-064. Going online to order another is met with the "part discontinued, no longer in stock" since this part had been in supply for many years and members of our group probable have a spare or two, or know where to find them. Can any one in our group direct me in the right direction. My local supplier in Australia can't help.



Bob Grey
Renaissance 3
Amel 55 #25





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any clever and creative fishing rod storage?

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Bill,

I stored my 3 Penn 50/wides with 6' trolling rods on the ceiling above the the port forward berth. Check this link for the holders used.   http://www.leetackle.com/rodstorage.html
I have the anodized aluminum version, and have found them to work well. 

I keep my light tackle spinning rod on the shelf under the Lee board for the port forward berth. 

My 7' heavier spinning rod is hanging on the ceiling above the shelf in the pilot berth area leading to the aft stateroom, and uses the same holder as my trolling rods up forward. 

My bottom fishing rod which is infrequently used is stored on the ledge next to the hull, which you can access after you slide out the main salon berth. The reel is removed, and stored in a cabinet. 

If you would like a picture of the trolling rod storage on the ceiling, send me your email. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Trinidad

On May 18, 2016, at 10:44, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all...

We are in the process of moving the last of our "stuff" onto our Super Maramu.  As an avid fisherman, I have a collection of 6 or 8 fishing rods that need to go somewhere.

Right now my best ideas are over the bunk in the passageway, or clipped to the bottom of the cockpit locker lid.  Any other creative ideas?

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM#160
Port Canaveral, Florida



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any clever and creative fishing rod storage?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

Congratulations for moving the last belonging onboard Harmonie!!!

Here is where I put my 6 fishing rods.
http://nikimat.com/fishing_rodes.html

1 came with the boat and is located on the ceiling of the galley.

since the maximum legal was 6 in the Bahamas, added 5.
Aside for the one that came with the boat, they all have Shimano 50 TLD 2 Speed (all with 80 lbs line).
Trolling with 6 is not easy as often the lines get tangled… I often only use 4. But I am working on a solution…

I put the 2 long one amid ship pointing to the outside at 90 degree, then 2 along side, then 2 pointing inside with the lines near the mizzen backstay.

You are probably more experience fisherman than me, but just in case: make sure to always attach them while fishing, Crossing from Turks & Caicos to Samana, Dominican Republic a waive removed 1 from the holder, since it was secure with a line I did not loose it.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico





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On Wed, 5/18/16, greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any clever and creative fishing rod storage?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 9:44 AM


 









Hello all...

We
are in the process of moving the last of our
"stuff" onto our Super Maramu.  As an avid
fisherman, I have a collection of 6 or 8 fishing rods that
need to go somewhere.

Right
now my best ideas are over the bunk in the passageway, or
clipped to the bottom of the cockpit locker lid.  Any other
creative ideas?

Bill
Kinney
Harmonie, SM#160
Port Canaveral, Florida


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change forestay on Santorin

antonio scipioni
 

Hi Olivier,
Thanks for your answer, I remember you sayd me in Canet to check the tension and the forestay, now I am reinstall all the new acmo rig and I don't understand how take out the old. I saw the delos video about and I understand I have to remove the furler (engine and gear) but how I can ?
I take out the rivets and the allens but the furler goes down some centimeters only and after he stop. The cable don't go up, I understand there are two bushing, but how I can remove ? In the furler down there is a plastic black cover, have I remove this ?
I send you some pics.
Br
Antonio





Il giorno 18/mag/2016, alle ore 15:53, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hello Antonio,

as I've seen your mast lying, I suppose your genoa furler with tube and forestay are lying too.
Once you have removed the turnbuckle, you have noticed that the forestay cannot go towards the top of the tube. This is because of a nylon bushing that is installed between the furler and the tube/pulley, around the forestay, just above the swage.
This bushing is made of two half-cylinders. To release this bushing, you need to remove the furler from the tube.
Then you have two solutions:
-undo the bolts at the base of the pulley (but very likely, the aluminum  pulley is seized on the furler's stainless steel hub)
-or remove the rivets that hold the pulley onto the tube
Then, you will get access to the famous bushing, remove it and move the forestay all the way to the top of the tube.

Feel free to ask if this is not clear.

Olivier.


On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:34 PM, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi owners,
I am changing the forestay but I can't understand how remove the old cable.
Is necessary remove the engine and the gearbox ?
Where I can find the instruction?
Br
Antonio
SN108 Vagabungo

Inviato da iPhone



Any clever and creative fishing rod storage?

greatketch@...
 

Hello all...

We are in the process of moving the last of our "stuff" onto our Super Maramu.  As an avid fisherman, I have a collection of 6 or 8 fishing rods that need to go somewhere.

Right now my best ideas are over the bunk in the passageway, or clipped to the bottom of the cockpit locker lid.  Any other creative ideas?

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM#160
Port Canaveral, Florida



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Bob,

If I had to bet, Airmar made that sensor.  Navonics (B&G) outsources all of these speed and . if you have a part number, Airmar can steer you to a local distributor who can get you an identical replacement.

Bill

On May 17, 2016, at 23:21, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill, thank you for your reply, I'm looking for an identical replacement otherwise it's a slip and replace with a different unit. There seem a plethora of alternatives which all require replacement on the hard.



Bob


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 12:57, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

You might try contacting Airmar.  http://airmartechnology.com/productinfo.html?category=MT&name=Marine%20Transducers 


They manufacture almost all of these types of senders and can help you find a suitable replacement.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie,  SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 17, 2016, at 22:54, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, my 2 year old B&G paddle wheel unit / sensor failed, its the type that goes through a gate valve. Part number 202-00-064. Going online to order another is met with the "part discontinued, no longer in stock" since this part had been in supply for many years and members of our group probable have a spare or two, or know where to find them. Can any one in our group direct me in the right direction. My local supplier in Australia can't help.



Bob Grey
Renaissance 3
Amel 55 #25





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change forestay on Santorin

Olivier Beaute
 

Hello Antonio,

as I've seen your mast lying, I suppose your genoa furler with tube and forestay are lying too.
Once you have removed the turnbuckle, you have noticed that the forestay cannot go towards the top of the tube. This is because of a nylon bushing that is installed between the furler and the tube/pulley, around the forestay, just above the swage.
This bushing is made of two half-cylinders. To release this bushing, you need to remove the furler from the tube.
Then you have two solutions:
-undo the bolts at the base of the pulley (but very likely, the aluminum  pulley is seized on the furler's stainless steel hub)
-or remove the rivets that hold the pulley onto the tube
Then, you will get access to the famous bushing, remove it and move the forestay all the way to the top of the tube.

Feel free to ask if this is not clear.

Olivier.


On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:34 PM, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi owners,
I am changing the forestay but I can't understand how remove the old cable.
Is necessary remove the engine and the gearbox ?
Where I can find the instruction?
Br
Antonio
SN108 Vagabungo

Inviato da iPhone



Change forestay on Santorin

antonio scipioni
 

Hi owners,
I am changing the forestay but I can't understand how remove the old cable.
Is necessary remove the engine and the gearbox ?
Where I can find the instruction?
Br
Antonio
SN108 Vagabungo

Inviato da iPhone


Re: B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

peacock@...
 

Try going to the B&G website. I recently swapped out our instrument sensors. I was concerned about several compatibility issues. Their tech support is very helpful, I think it's by email, just be very specific about your problem and they will answer. BTW, the new paddlewheel fit perfectly, no adjustments necessary. 

Tom Peacock
Aletes SM #240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

Herbert Lackner
 

Bob,

2 years ago a got a brand new paddlewheel sensor from B&G, I used it for 3 months and changed then the complete system to Raymarine. I would sell the "as new" B&G sensor, if you are interested contact me at

herbert-at-lackner.at or binky-at-kali-mera.net

herbert
SN120, KALI MERA, currently Trinidad


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

Bob Grey
 

Bill, thank you for your reply, I'm looking for an identical replacement otherwise it's a slip and replace with a different unit. There seem a plethora of alternatives which all require replacement on the hard.


On Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 12:57, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

You might try contacting Airmar.  http://airmartechnology.com/productinfo.html?category=MT&name=Marine%20Transducers 


They manufacture almost all of these types of senders and can help you find a suitable replacement.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie,  SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 17, 2016, at 22:54, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, my 2 year old B&G paddle wheel unit / sensor failed, its the type that goes through a gate valve. Part number 202-00-064. Going online to order another is met with the "part discontinued, no longer in stock" since this part had been in supply for many years and members of our group probable have a spare or two, or know where to find them. Can any one in our group direct me in the right direction. My local supplier in Australia can't help.



Bob Grey
Renaissance 3
Amel 55 #25



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

You might try contacting Airmar.  http://airmartechnology.com/productinfo.html?category=MT&name=Marine%20Transducers 

They manufacture almost all of these types of senders and can help you find a suitable replacement.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie,  SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 17, 2016, at 22:54, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, my 2 year old B&G paddle wheel unit / sensor failed, its the type that goes through a gate valve. Part number 202-00-064. Going online to order another is met with the "part discontinued, no longer in stock" since this part had been in supply for many years and members of our group probable have a spare or two, or know where to find them. Can any one in our group direct me in the right direction. My local supplier in Australia can't help.



Bob Grey
Renaissance 3
Amel 55 #25



B&G paddle wheel sensor discontinued part

Bob Grey
 

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, my 2 year old B&G paddle wheel unit / sensor failed, its the type that goes through a gate valve. Part number 202-00-064. Going online to order another is met with the "part discontinued, no longer in stock" since this part had been in supply for many years and members of our group probable have a spare or two, or know where to find them. Can any one in our group direct me in the right direction. My local supplier in Australia can't help.


Bob Grey
Renaissance 3
Amel 55 #25


Re: Recruiting Your Latest Thoughts on Interior Lights

jjjk12s@...
 

Another quality brand you could look at is Hellamarine that are made in New Zealand. I have a boat with them (not my Amel which is still like yours with converted LED globes).

 

They do round surface mount LED lights that are both red and white, dimmable, can be remotely switched or on the light or both and can be adjusted so they dim together, and have a memory so they come back on at the dimming level they were at previously. They do look more modern though than the traditional stainless dome light being made out of white or black uv resitsant acrylic. They also have a 5 year warranty.

 

John, Maramu, #91 Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recruiting Your Latest Thoughts on Interior Lights

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Thanks Valdimir!  I am going to try one of those for the light in the cockpit over the companionway.  But at 145 lumens, I don’t think it’s going to cut it as a main saloon light.


On May 17, 2016, at 17:52, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


See Marinebeam 
Red/White "Switchable" LED for Dome Lights (UN-DOME-15-RWW)
$23.00

On May 17, 2016 3:05 PM, "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


   The 600 Lumen Alpenglows look really interesting.  I would like to see some of these in person sometime.  But yes,I agree 80 lumen is completely inadequate.   I remembered reading that MB had a red option but I did not read the specs. since I was not interested in them at the time.  The 300 lumen bulb that I linked you to however is a nice direct replacement for a bayonet style fixture.

James
On May 17, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I think you are talking about these….



Two issues with those. One minor:  flipping a switch twice every time I want a white light would quickly get old (Yeah, I know… picky, picky!) But the real problem is that they only give off 80 lumens of white light. That’s just not enough for these old eyes to read with, and it leaves the cabin very dark and dingy to my eyes.  Others might be fine with it...

The Alpenglow lamps put out 600 lumens.  That’s what I am used to in a boat cabin.  It’s not an arc light, it only the equivalent of a roughly a 50 watt incandescent bulb.  80 Lumens is roughly equal to a 10 watt light bulb, and that just isn’t sufficient for me to engage in real 24 hour activity.  Again, others might feel differently.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM#160
Port Canaveral, Florida

On May 17, 2016, at 13:53, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There are LED light balbs that go from red to wight depending on how many times you turn the switch ON/OFF. I have it on my previous boat. I like it. I want to get it for the cabin dome light.
I bought it on the Annapolis Boat show. Unfortunately I do not have the manufacturer name. I will try to find it. If I find it I post it. If you find it first please post it. 

On May 17, 2016 12:17 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On our boat (SM #160) the installed cabin dome lights are single bulb G4 fixtures that have been converted to Dr LED bulbs.

There are two big problems from our perspective.  First there is NO provision for red lights for night vision protection, and the white LEDs are not nearly bright enough for our tastes.

Before pulling the trigger on converting saloon and galley to Alpenglow lamps, which I have great experience with, (https://www.alpenglowlights.com/overhead-light-info.html) I am wondering if anybody has other suggestions for adding red bulbs, and bright (9 Watt/600 lumen) high CRI white LED?

Bill Kinney
Harmonie SM #160
Port Canaveral, Florida.












Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recruiting Your Latest Thoughts on Interior Lights

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

See Marinebeam
Red/White "Switchable" LED for Dome Lights (UN-DOME-15-RWW)
$23.00

On May 17, 2016 3:05 PM, "James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


   The 600 Lumen Alpenglows look really interesting.  I would like to see some of these in person sometime.  But yes,I agree 80 lumen is completely inadequate.   I remembered reading that MB had a red option but I did not read the specs. since I was not interested in them at the time.  The 300 lumen bulb that I linked you to however is a nice direct replacement for a bayonet style fixture.

James
On May 17, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I think you are talking about these….



Two issues with those. One minor:  flipping a switch twice every time I want a white light would quickly get old (Yeah, I know… picky, picky!) But the real problem is that they only give off 80 lumens of white light. That’s just not enough for these old eyes to read with, and it leaves the cabin very dark and dingy to my eyes.  Others might be fine with it...

The Alpenglow lamps put out 600 lumens.  That’s what I am used to in a boat cabin.  It’s not an arc light, it only the equivalent of a roughly a 50 watt incandescent bulb.  80 Lumens is roughly equal to a 10 watt light bulb, and that just isn’t sufficient for me to engage in real 24 hour activity.  Again, others might feel differently.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM#160
Port Canaveral, Florida

On May 17, 2016, at 13:53, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There are LED light balbs that go from red to wight depending on how many times you turn the switch ON/OFF. I have it on my previous boat. I like it. I want to get it for the cabin dome light.
I bought it on the Annapolis Boat show. Unfortunately I do not have the manufacturer name. I will try to find it. If I find it I post it. If you find it first please post it. 

On May 17, 2016 12:17 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On our boat (SM #160) the installed cabin dome lights are single bulb G4 fixtures that have been converted to Dr LED bulbs.

There are two big problems from our perspective.  First there is NO provision for red lights for night vision protection, and the white LEDs are not nearly bright enough for our tastes.

Before pulling the trigger on converting saloon and galley to Alpenglow lamps, which I have great experience with, (https://www.alpenglowlights.com/overhead-light-info.html) I am wondering if anybody has other suggestions for adding red bulbs, and bright (9 Watt/600 lumen) high CRI white LED?

Bill Kinney
Harmonie SM #160
Port Canaveral, Florida.









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recruiting Your Latest Thoughts on Interior Lights

James Alton
 

Bill,

   The 600 Lumen Alpenglows look really interesting.  I would like to see some of these in person sometime.  But yes,I agree 80 lumen is completely inadequate.   I remembered reading that MB had a red option but I did not read the specs. since I was not interested in them at the time.  The 300 lumen bulb that I linked you to however is a nice direct replacement for a bayonet style fixture.

James

On May 17, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I think you are talking about these….



Two issues with those. One minor:  flipping a switch twice every time I want a white light would quickly get old (Yeah, I know… picky, picky!) But the real problem is that they only give off 80 lumens of white light. That’s just not enough for these old eyes to read with, and it leaves the cabin very dark and dingy to my eyes.  Others might be fine with it...

The Alpenglow lamps put out 600 lumens.  That’s what I am used to in a boat cabin.  It’s not an arc light, it only the equivalent of a roughly a 50 watt incandescent bulb.  80 Lumens is roughly equal to a 10 watt light bulb, and that just isn’t sufficient for me to engage in real 24 hour activity.  Again, others might feel differently.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM#160
Port Canaveral, Florida

On May 17, 2016, at 13:53, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There are LED light balbs that go from red to wight depending on how many times you turn the switch ON/OFF. I have it on my previous boat. I like it. I want to get it for the cabin dome light.
I bought it on the Annapolis Boat show. Unfortunately I do not have the manufacturer name. I will try to find it. If I find it I post it. If you find it first please post it. 

On May 17, 2016 12:17 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On our boat (SM #160) the installed cabin dome lights are single bulb G4 fixtures that have been converted to Dr LED bulbs.

There are two big problems from our perspective.  First there is NO provision for red lights for night vision protection, and the white LEDs are not nearly bright enough for our tastes.

Before pulling the trigger on converting saloon and galley to Alpenglow lamps, which I have great experience with, (https://www.alpenglowlights.com/overhead-light-info.html) I am wondering if anybody has other suggestions for adding red bulbs, and bright (9 Watt/600 lumen) high CRI white LED?

Bill Kinney
Harmonie SM #160
Port Canaveral, Florida.