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Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Bill,

My Frigoboat model number on top of the fan housing says: AV 35 F

Are you looking for a different number (e.g. on the compressor)?

Derick

SM2k#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stop Button Panel for Engine Perkins Prima m50

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Attilio,

Possibly your engine is a Volvo?

I do not know about Volvo, but Yanmar sells the stop button which is part
number 129470-91190. Possibly it will fit. If not, it seems that there are
many push button switches that will work.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On May 28, 2016 9:12 AM, "Siviero Attilio attilio.siviero@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Hi everybody,
over the years the engine of my Amel Santorin #84-1993, Sisila, suffered
always for the same inexplicable defect, which was essentially the
difficulty to switch it off.
After various experts attempts to find the problem, the last electrician,
in Rhodes, realized that the problem is simply the stop-button at the
engine panel.
The fact is that apparently it works if the button is pushed only half
way, not to the bottom. That is why it worked sometimes, when casually I
pushed less, tired to push for minutes in the attempt to switch off the
engine.
The electrician suggests to put an external button, since Perkins does not
provide only part of the panel, but the whole panel as replacement of the
original, which is ok for the rest, connecting the cables from the old
button to the new one, any brand.
Does anybody knows if somewhere there is the possibility to have only
parts of the panel, instead to replace the whole panel, or is there any
other alternative?
I saw other Santorin with same defect, some of them have an “emergency
cord” inside the engine room, by which they pull something in the engine,
to stop fuel flux, but the mechanic said that is not possible in my engine.
Any suggestion?




*Attilio & Maria Siviero*
*Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"*




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stop Button Panel for Engine Perkins Prima m50

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Try this search:
momentary SPST square button
then pick the one that matches the size.

I’ll disagree with Vladimir, I am almost certain that what you want is a normally open switch.  The engine is stopped by activating a fuel shut off solenoid.  But check to be sure…  one of us is right!

Bill Kinney
Harmonie SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 28, 2016, at 09:32, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

You can find the switch online or in electronic store. Some marine supplies
or auto parts store can have that. I belive it must be normally closed
switch. Check the switch and see if there amps rating. There is no problem
to use greater amp raiting switch. Those switches are commercial product.
On May 28, 2016 9:17 AM, "Siviero Attilio attilio.siviero@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi everybody,
> over the years the engine of my Amel Santorin #84-1993, Sisila, suffered
> always for the same inexplicable defect, which was essentially the
> difficulty to switch it off.
> After various experts attempts to find the problem, the last electrician,
> in Rhodes, realized that the problem is simply the stop-button at the
> engine panel.
> The fact is that apparently it works if the button is pushed only half
> way, not to the bottom. That is why it worked sometimes, when casually I
> pushed less, tired to push for minutes in the attempt to switch off the
> engine.
> The electrician suggests to put an external button, since Perkins does not
> provide only part of the panel, but the whole panel as replacement of the
> original, which is ok for the rest, connecting the cables from the old
> button to the new one, any brand.
> Does anybody knows if somewhere there is the possibility to have only
> parts of the panel, instead to replace the whole panel, or is there any
> other alternative?
> I saw other Santorin with same defect, some of them have an “emergency
> cord” inside the engine room, by which they pull something in the engine,
> to stop fuel flux, but the mechanic said that is not possible in my engine.
> Any suggestion?
>
>
>
>
> *Attilio & Maria Siviero*
> *Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"*
>
>
> 
>

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

robin.hutter@...
 

same experience as JP also - would gladly share it with anybody who is interested : info at gros-doux dot com

Robin
Amel SM #56
Taormina Italy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stop Button Panel for Engine Perkins Prima m50

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

You can find the switch online or in electronic store. Some marine supplies
or auto parts store can have that. I belive it must be normally closed
switch. Check the switch and see if there amps rating. There is no problem
to use greater amp raiting switch. Those switches are commercial product.
On May 28, 2016 9:17 AM, "Siviero Attilio attilio.siviero@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Hi everybody,
over the years the engine of my Amel Santorin #84-1993, Sisila, suffered
always for the same inexplicable defect, which was essentially the
difficulty to switch it off.
After various experts attempts to find the problem, the last electrician,
in Rhodes, realized that the problem is simply the stop-button at the
engine panel.
The fact is that apparently it works if the button is pushed only half
way, not to the bottom. That is why it worked sometimes, when casually I
pushed less, tired to push for minutes in the attempt to switch off the
engine.
The electrician suggests to put an external button, since Perkins does not
provide only part of the panel, but the whole panel as replacement of the
original, which is ok for the rest, connecting the cables from the old
button to the new one, any brand.
Does anybody knows if somewhere there is the possibility to have only
parts of the panel, instead to replace the whole panel, or is there any
other alternative?
I saw other Santorin with same defect, some of them have an “emergency
cord” inside the engine room, by which they pull something in the engine,
to stop fuel flux, but the mechanic said that is not possible in my engine.
Any suggestion?




*Attilio & Maria Siviero*
*Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"*




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Stop Button Panel for Engine Perkins Prima m50

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi everybody,
over the years the engine of my Amel Santorin #84-1993, Sisila, suffered always for the same inexplicable defect, which was essentially the difficulty to switch it off.
After various experts attempts to find the problem, the last electrician, in Rhodes, realized that the problem is simply the stop-button at the engine panel.
The fact is that apparently it works if the button is pushed only half way, not to the bottom. That is why it worked sometimes, when casually I pushed less, tired to push for minutes in the attempt to switch off the engine.
The electrician suggests to put an external button, since Perkins does not provide only part of the panel, but the whole panel as replacement of the original, which is ok for the rest, connecting the cables from the old button to the new one, any brand.
Does anybody knows if somewhere there is the possibility to have only parts of the panel, instead to replace the whole panel, or is there any other alternative? 
I saw other Santorin with same defect, some of them have an “emergency cord” inside the engine room, by which they pull something in the engine, to stop fuel flux, but the mechanic said that is not possible in my engine.
Any suggestion?




Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

robin.hutter@...
 

Also my experience is very similar to the one of JP and I know of others with the same problems. I would gladly share it with anybody interested - contact me under info at gros-doux.com
I did not spend 100 k with EMEK, but they do have more than 50 k of my money in their pockets.

Robin
Amel SM #56
Taormina Italy


---In amelyachtowners@..., <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote :

I have an experience similar as JP. I have also meet another Amel owner with similar experience. I,M happy to share my experience If anyone is interested then email me at sykerpa at gmail dot com
Paul S/Y Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

Paul Osterberg
 

I have an experience similar as JP. I have also meet another Amel owner with similar experience. I,M happy to share my experience If anyone is interested then email me at sykerpa at gmail dot com
Paul S/Y Kerpa SM 259


Re: Refit

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

The most important lesson to draw from JP's experience, as compared to Bill's, is that no work should be done on one's boat without direct continuous supervision by the owner. I have been sailing on Amels since 1997 (first on a Santorin, then on a SM2K - the present proud property of Alexandre,  and now on a 54 for the past 6 years) and all works, including those done by Amel in Hyeres and Martinique have been done with me on board every day. I realize that not every body can do that but the bigger the refit budget, the more supervision counts. I think this is always true, but even more so on Amels that have so many unique features.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

If anyone is interested in a factual full story about this, email me at bill"at"svbebe.com and I will give you the real details.

I do not think it is appropriate to respond to JP Germaine in this Group thread, and it only concerns a small number of a group of people that JP is a part of and any other person who is interested.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 27, 2016 4:13 PM, "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill,


I hoped you would not press the issue as I have high regard for your technical knowledge and advice regarding Amel boats.  In fact, based on your good experience at Emek, I chose to take my boat there for an extensive refit costing well over €100K.  The plan was for 3 months, MAX 4 month ashore.

We left Gocek at the 1 year mark after failing to get needed repairs completed by Emek.  Furthermore, we had so many failures enroute that we had to winter in Sicily and postpone our RTW by one year to complete repairs... for which I had paid Emek.

I stand by my comments; Bill’s experience preceded mine.  I can certify that Emek marine were neglectful, unknowledgeable, untrained, ill equipped and were unsafe in some tasks.

The sad reality, in spite of Bill’s rise to their defence, is that they are now useless; go there at your own risk ….

Regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 May 2016, at 19:32, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

All interested in Amel maintenance Turkey,

I know the Amel Representative for Sales and Service in Turkey, Emek Marine in Gocek. I know Riza, the third generation manager of Emek. I have used Emek and have been completely satisfied. I also know more about the negative remarks made about Emek in this thread by an Amel owner. My comments about that situation are not appropriate here. However, if any Amel Owner would like to know what I know about this, please write me at bill"at"svbebe.com

Emek is a company that I have used and I recommend for Amel service. As I have said before whenever I recommend anyone, I never allow anyone to work on BeBe without me being present. That applies to Amel France, Amel Caribe, Emek, and all others. How can you be satisfied when you leave decisions you should make up to someone else?

Best,

Bill ROUSE
BeBe, 387
Carriacou

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I dealt with Emek marine in Gocek , Turkey = Absolute Amateurs.  No concept of Engineering or Quality Control… except for their solar gantry (with reservations)


Dont go there.

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 26 May 2016, at 20:10, santorinlo18@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Looking at some major face lift to my Santorin (realised that I wouldn't be happy with any other unless will buy something for 3 times her value, which is obviously refitted SM 2000 year 2005), including - modern fresh interior carpentry, electric wiring, deck refreshing, and minor fibre works. From all boatyards in Turkey Greece I have dealt with so far - no one left me with enough impression for such big work. ANY IDEA where to start inquiring in the mediterranean (Most important peace of mind, then cost)? 



Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...





Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Thank you Bill,

I hoped you would not press the issue as I have high regard for your technical knowledge and advice regarding Amel boats.  In fact, based on your good experience at Emek, I chose to take my boat there for an extensive refit costing well over €100K.  The plan was for 3 months, MAX 4 month ashore.

We left Gocek at the 1 year mark after failing to get needed repairs completed by Emek.  Furthermore, we had so many failures enroute that we had to winter in Sicily and postpone our RTW by one year to complete repairs... for which I had paid Emek.

I stand by my comments; Bill’s experience preceded mine.  I can certify that Emek marine were neglectful, unknowledgeable, untrained, ill equipped and were unsafe in some tasks.

The sad reality, in spite of Bill’s rise to their defence, is that they are now useless; go there at your own risk ….

Regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 27 May 2016, at 19:32, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

All interested in Amel maintenance Turkey,

I know the Amel Representative for Sales and Service in Turkey, Emek Marine in Gocek. I know Riza, the third generation manager of Emek. I have used Emek and have been completely satisfied. I also know more about the negative remarks made about Emek in this thread by an Amel owner. My comments about that situation are not appropriate here. However, if any Amel Owner would like to know what I know about this, please write me at bill"at"svbebe.com

Emek is a company that I have used and I recommend for Amel service. As I have said before whenever I recommend anyone, I never allow anyone to work on BeBe without me being present. That applies to Amel France, Amel Caribe, Emek, and all others. How can you be satisfied when you leave decisions you should make up to someone else?

Best,

Bill ROUSE
BeBe, 387
Carriacou

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I dealt with Emek marine in Gocek , Turkey = Absolute Amateurs.  No concept of Engineering or Quality Control… except for their solar gantry (with reservations)


Dont go there.

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 26 May 2016, at 20:10, santorinlo18@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Looking at some major face lift to my Santorin (realised that I wouldn't be happy with any other unless will buy something for 3 times her value, which is obviously refitted SM 2000 year 2005), including - modern fresh interior carpentry, electric wiring, deck refreshing, and minor fibre works. From all boatyards in Turkey Greece I have dealt with so far - no one left me with enough impression for such big work. ANY IDEA where to start inquiring in the mediterranean (Most important peace of mind, then cost)? 



Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...





Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refit

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

All interested in Amel maintenance Turkey,

I know the Amel Representative for Sales and Service in Turkey, Emek Marine in Gocek. I know Riza, the third generation manager of Emek. I have used Emek and have been completely satisfied. I also know more about the negative remarks made about Emek in this thread by an Amel owner. My comments about that situation are not appropriate here. However, if any Amel Owner would like to know what I know about this, please write me at bill"at"svbebe.com

Emek is a company that I have used and I recommend for Amel service. As I have said before whenever I recommend anyone, I never allow anyone to work on BeBe without me being present. That applies to Amel France, Amel Caribe, Emek, and all others. How can you be satisfied when you leave decisions you should make up to someone else?

Best,

Bill ROUSE
BeBe, 387
Carriacou

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I dealt with Emek marine in Gocek , Turkey = Absolute Amateurs.  No concept of Engineering or Quality Control… except for their solar gantry (with reservations)


Dont go there.

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 26 May 2016, at 20:10, santorinlo18@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Looking at some major face lift to my Santorin (realised that I wouldn't be happy with any other unless will buy something for 3 times her value, which is obviously refitted SM 2000 year 2005), including - modern fresh interior carpentry, electric wiring, deck refreshing, and minor fibre works. From all boatyards in Turkey Greece I have dealt with so far - no one left me with enough impression for such big work. ANY IDEA where to start inquiring in the mediterranean (Most important peace of mind, then cost)? 



Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Change forestay on Santorin

antonio scipioni
 

Hi Craig,
At The end I changed The forestay:
I cut the old cable because was impossible remove it. The reason was that inside The furler there was a mixture of salt, grease, dirt, rubbish and so on...I spent about 20 minutes to remouve The bushings. Now it's all ok, changed the cable, Thank you so much for The advices.
Antonio 

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 23/mag/2016, alle ore 23:20, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hi Antonio,

OK, so you did remove the turnbuckle. Good. And I can see you drilled out the 8 rivets.
When you say "When I tried to remove I removed turnbuckle rivets and all stop the way." do you mean you removed the turnbuckle AND the rivets and could not get the cable out? Mama Mia! I think that is where we started :-)

Question 1: Is the problem that you cannot get the extrusion out of the socket?
Or, Question 2:  can you get the extrusion out of the socket but you cannot get the cable out?

If you have the extrusion out, then just pull harder on the cable and jerk it some.  It may be that the bushing is jammed down and if you pull really hard and jerk it the stud bolt should pull the bushing out.

At this point I would not cut the cable because you need the stud bolt attached to get the bushing out as you remove the cable.  If you cut the cable you will have to use some sort of pipe or rod to push out the bushing from the bottom.

Let me know the answers to my two questions above.
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi Craig,
Thank you for your help, in the picture you can see the turnbuckle on the forestay BUT only because I reinstall after trying to remove the forestay. 
When I tried to remove I removed turnbuckle rivets and all stop the way.
Antonio 


Re: Refit

robin.hutter@...
 

regarding antifouling I can highly recommend Mohammed Mrad in Monastir - got mne coppercoated there in April 16 - they did a great job! I brought all the necessary materials frm Malta as coppercoat is not available in Tunesia.
I got my GrosDoux rerigged in Malta (bought original from ACMO) and there I can highly recommend 
Nicky - he did a great job

Robin
-
Amel SM # 56
www.gros-doux.com


Re: Refit

awsnowdon@...
 

I am getting complete rerig in Gibraltar along with some other work (once I have moved Caramba SM 2000 from Tunisia in June).  May be wrong end of med but I will let you know how I fair.  I am still debating where best to have antifoul done - here in Tunisia before I leave, or Lagos, Portugal.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Refit

danielmfrey63@...
 

Hello

The works I have done:
- replacing standing rigging
- replacing all internal wallpapers
- Revision of Perkins Prima M50
- Paintworks/New Antifouling

Fortunately my experiences were not so bad as the ones of Herbert.

Best - Daniel


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

How many different gaskets do they have?  If a small number would it be easier to buy one of each?


On May 27, 2016, at 10:06, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I want to replace the magnetic gasket of the Frigoboat fridge on BeBe #387.


I think I will have to remove the fridge to locate the model number, and Coastal Climate and Frigoboat/Italy insist they need the model number.


Before I do that, does anyone have the model number of the air cooled fridge in a SM near hull number 387?


Bill

BeBe 387




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transducer housing removal

Mark Pitt
 

I only replaced the housing, which was cracked, and not the transducer, so I cannot comment on an experience with the cable.

  Mark Pitt
 Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Sardinia


On May 26, 2016, at 10:47 PM, capt.anderson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Mark & the Group, I am about to do this job on SM384 while she is still in the water. If you have a moment could you please tell us how the job went?  I have Raymarine ST-60 instruments too. As best I can tell the replacement transducer is a Raymarine "ST800/P12 Thru-Hull Low Profile Transducer", which comes with a 20 meter cable attached. Did you have to run the new cable all the way to the instrument panel? Any input or suggestion would be helpful. In my case I'm doing this due to hitting a log or something while sailing. I heard a thud and noticed my speed indicated zero thereafter.
Best,
Jim
SM 384
Sirena Azul


Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

yahoogroups@...
 

I want to replace the magnetic gasket of the Frigoboat fridge on BeBe #387.


I think I will have to remove the fridge to locate the model number, and Coastal Climate and Frigoboat/Italy insist they need the model number.


Before I do that, does anyone have the model number of the air cooled fridge in a SM near hull number 387?


Bill

BeBe 387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead STROBE and Tri/Anchor Combination Light

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Nice note / post thanks

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On May 27, 2016, at 07:22, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yep...we don't have one but my son and my daughter (both merchant marine bridge officers) recite  "RED OVER GREEN IT'S A SAILING MACHINE" and tell me I need one.  My understanding is that the red over green light at the top of the main mast may be used together with the deck level running lights.  To chime in on the current discussion, strobe lights have created actual approaches by ships (read Maiden Voyage)--but hey, if someone has averted a collision with one--whatever works!  BTW, many sailboats in Greece including charter boats seem to think that a flashing red strobe is a great addition to their anchor light--forget that it is universally a red buoy maker!  Back to the discussion--Active AIS is hard to beat and also your AIS receiver should give you their MMSI number  so you can call them with Digital Select Calling (DSC) on your VHF--practice this!--a DSC call doesn't have to be a distress (requiring assistance) call BUT it creates an alarm on their VHF that has to be turned off, YOUR POSITION POPS UP,  and and it presents a recall channel.  If you do not have the vessels MMSI you can make an ALL SHIPS CALL--even an "All Ships Call" does not need to be a distress (requiring assistance) call--in fact All Ship Calls are classified as Routine, Safety, or Urgency calls.  Another tool--we have what just might be the loudest horn on any Amel.  It is mounted half way up the mizzen and looks ridiculous, but it is high on our list for collision avoidance--5 blasts for danger, some say 8 for imminent collision.  Finally you may want to consider an active radar return.  We have a Sea-Me, which broadcasts a giant active return signal when pinged by radar.  It pretty much makes you look like the size of a supertanker.  We switched it on once when we were experiencing very heavy traffic sailing down the coast of Belgium.  Within seconds every ferry and ship in the area began calling us with our location, speed, and direction and demanding that we identify ourselves--nothing like having them think a collision will sink THEIR ship to get some attention.  We turned it off!  However it has many uses. DSC is probably underutilized and misunderstood by 95+% of experienced boaters  but it is a very important collision avoidance tool.  Watch an interactive demo at Can You Hear Me?  or Google for 

DSC tutorial BOATUS  (it looks like it uses flash so use a laptop) go through the whole thing and if you don't learn something I'll buy you a drink next time I see you.

Bob
KAIMI SM 429