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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

antonio scipioni
 

Hi eric, I don't understand where you find water, are you sure is salt water ? And did you check the pump that is used to wash the chain?
Antonio
Vagabundo SN108

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Il giorno 29/mag/2016, alle ore 22:18, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I resolved that problem by applying think grease on the part that goes through the seals. Grease improves seale.
Also make sure that the bow thruster is all the way up and locked with a pin.

On May 29, 2016 4:18 PM, "ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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> I'm sure this has been discussed before but.
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> Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.
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> Any other ideas?  Bow locker?
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Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

ericmeury@...
 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Damon Duval
 

Thank you Peregrinus and John

Very affirming. With some harsh injuries, these boats seem physically forgiving as well.
With all else being equal, stowage/weight would be the advantage on the larger Maramu for passagemaking.

Thank you for your responses. 
Food for sought.


On Sunday, May 29, 2016 4:14 AM, "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Damon,
 
Sharkis do have a great use of space. Which model depends on what you want to do and what you can find. As they are old boats now the condition and history is important. I would much rather have a nice Sharki than a poorly kept Maramu. But for carrying capacity, rough weather comfort and long distance sailing I would rather have the bigger one. For economy of maintenance and staying in marinas the smaller one has advantages, especially for just a couple. 
 
The water tight bulkheads are very good. The same clever ideas are there on the different models.
 
Also, if only Amel were kind enough to still make a smaller boat ...... 
 
John, Maramu #91, Popeye



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Peter, 
You might also try slacking the aft lowers.
Craig, SN 68 Sangaris


Re: Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

william_maffei@...
 

I concur with Kent. In the past I have serviced my furling motor and had to remove my forestay. I was able to do this by backing off the mizzen backstays and using the halyards ( I have 3, 2 extra and the head sail main halyard) to put the rig forward, allowing enough play to pop the pin from the forestay. I was then able to use the halyards as temporary stays while having the furling plate re-tapped and serviced. Worked like a charm. Small side note: I used electrical tape to mark the position of the rig when re-installing. The job only required 2 people. 

Cheers,

Bill Maffei
SM #195 
It's all Good


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Derick,

I think the under seat fridge freezer may have the exact components except the evaporator as the upright fridge.

Eric,

Yes,

I did the same thing with shimming the gasket.

All,

(I actually think my problem is having the door miss-adjusted for a while and drawing the door tight with the latch. I think this deformed the gasket. When the door is properly aligned the magnet should pull the door against the frame and the latch should only be necessary when the boat is actually moving. That latch has some adjustment also. Because time and bad adjustments have deformed the gasket, I need to start with a new magnetic gasket.

Bill
BeBe 387
Carriacou


On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:24 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

I was able to shim parts of the gasket in the lip of the gasket.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ya hoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Yes, Eric.

When I was adjusting the door using a dollar bill, I could only get about 80% to seal...I could not get it all.

In fairness, I think the best way to adjust the door is with the refrigerator laying on its back and all 6 hinge screws loose...center the door, then tighten the 6 screws. I have not tried that, but I believe that may solve the issue. If not, when I have it out I'll make note of the model number and see if a magnetic gasket is available.

I will let you and everyone else know here.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On May 28, 2016 3:26 PM, "'sailormon' < a href="mailto:kimberlite@...">kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

Please let me know what you find as I also need to replace the seal.

My HVAC guy showed me a trick. When you close something that has a seal. Put a dollar bill, between the seal and the mating surface. If you can pull the bill out easily you have a seal leak.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 20 16 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Derick,

Thanks for that. I know that number designates everything that is a mechanical ir electrical part in the refrigerator. It is the number for the kit consisting of compressor, evaporator, and condenser with cooling fan. It may also be the number for the cabinet...I'll check it out.

Bill Ro use
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2 016 1:47 PM, "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

 

My Frigoboat model number on top of the fan housing says: AV 35 F

 

Are you looking for a different number (e.g. on the compressor)?

 

Derick

 

SM2k#400 Brava



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis


Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

jjjk12s@...
 

Damon,

 

Sharkis do have a great use of space. Which model depends on what you want to do and what you can find. As they are old boats now the condition and history is important. I would much rather have a nice Sharki than a poorly kept Maramu. But for carrying capacity, rough weather comfort and long distance sailing I would rather have the bigger one. For economy of maintenance and staying in marinas the smaller one has advantages, especially for just a couple. 

 

The water tight bulkheads are very good. The same clever ideas are there on the different models.

 

Also, if only Amel were kind enough to still make a smaller boat ...... 

 

John, Maramu #91, Popeye


Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

One of our friends made a 12-year circumnavigation with his family on a Sharki, which he's kept, since, in anticipation of his upcoming retirement years.

We've sailed a different Sharki and we liked it a lot.

195 were made between 1979 and 1985.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K No. 350
At anchor, Île Sainte-Marguerite (Lérins)
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi Kent,
Thanks for the tip. I will go and have another go at getting it apart. It is nice to be able to push the button to furl the genoa but there is always a trade off in life.
I will post some images when I get it apart.
Thanks again
Pete
Mango #70
Gradiva

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:46:38 -0400
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

 

Hi Peter,
I had a similar issue on SM243.  After loosening the back stays, I couldn't quite get the turnbuckle started when reassembling.  I made a yoke that went under the bow and used a halyard to pull the mast forward enough to get it started.  I may have been able to do it with some help, but by myself that's the only way I could figure out how to get it all back together.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On May 28, 2016, at 7:21 PM, peter.buckley60@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,
I have to service the genoa furler on my Mango #70 and I am having difficulty getting the tension off the forestay. I have released pressure on the mizzen back stays and the main mast backstay but there still seems to be too much tension on the forestay to remove the pin. I have removed the 8 x 6mm blind rivets and the furling foil is free and tied up with the halyard.
Is there something I am missing in my procedure? I have read Craig's instructions from SV Sangaris and feel the tension on the forestay may make reassembly difficult.
Any help would be great.

Peter
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island
Australia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

karkauai
 

Hi Peter,
I had a similar issue on SM243.  After loosening the back stays, I couldn't quite get the turnbuckle started when reassembling.  I made a yoke that went under the bow and used a halyard to pull the mast forward enough to get it started.  I may have been able to do it with some help, but by myself that's the only way I could figure out how to get it all back together.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On May 28, 2016, at 7:21 PM, peter.buckley60@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,
I have to service the genoa furler on my Mango #70 and I am having difficulty getting the tension off the forestay. I have released pressure on the mizzen back stays and the main mast backstay but there still seems to be too much tension on the forestay to remove the pin. I have removed the 8 x 6mm blind rivets and the furling foil is free and tied up with the halyard.
Is there something I am missing in my procedure? I have read Craig's instructions from SV Sangaris and feel the tension on the forestay may make reassembly difficult.
Any help would be great.

Peter
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island
Australia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

I was able to shim parts of the gasket in the lip of the gasket.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Yes, Eric.

When I was adjusting the door using a dollar bill, I could only get about 80% to seal...I could not get it all.

In fairness, I think the best way to adjust the door is with the refrigerator laying on its back and all 6 hinge screws loose...center the door, then tighten the 6 screws. I have not tried that, but I believe that may solve the issue. If not, when I have it out I'll make note of the model number and see if a magnetic gasket is available.

I will let you and everyone else know here.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2016 3:26 PM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

Please let me know what you find as I also need to replace the seal.

My HVAC guy showed me a trick. When you close something that has a seal. Put a dollar bill, between the seal and the mating surface. If you can pull the bill out easily you have a seal leak.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Derick,

Thanks for that. I know that number designates everything that is a mechanical ir electrical part in the refrigerator. It is the number for the kit consisting of compressor, evaporator, and condenser with cooling fan. It may also be the number for the cabinet...I'll check it out.

Bill Ro use
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2016 1:47 PM, "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

 

My Frigoboat model number on top of the fan housing says: AV 35 F

 

Are you looking for a different number (e.g. on the compressor)?

 

Derick

 

SM2k#400 Brava


Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

peter.buckley60@...
 

Hi all,
I have to service the genoa furler on my Mango #70 and I am having difficulty getting the tension off the forestay. I have released pressure on the mizzen back stays and the main mast backstay but there still seems to be too much tension on the forestay to remove the pin. I have removed the 8 x 6mm blind rivets and the furling foil is free and tied up with the halyard.
Is there something I am missing in my procedure? I have read Craig's instructions from SV Sangaris and feel the tension on the forestay may make reassembly difficult.
Any help would be great.

Peter
Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island
Australia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transducer housing removal

Jim Anderson
 

Okay, thanks Mark. I will report back to the group once I've completed the job. - Jim


Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Bill, it would appear that I mistook which Frigoboat refrigerator you were repairing, and gave you the model number for the under-seat refrigerator/freezer in the saloon, rather than the under-the-counter small Frigoboat refrigerator.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.  

On this under-the-counter unit I have a latch that draws the door tight against the seals.  I use a small piece of bungie cord to lift the latch so that the latch does not jamb when closing the fridge door, then press it down into place against the springiness of of the bungie cord.

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava


Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Damon Duval
 

Ahoy, All!

Was impressed with the Amel 46... then I took a quick peek at the Sharki. Lo and behold it seems to be the same boat just minus 6 ft.

Is this a valid assumption?.... and are there any small differences that would make the shorter sharki less of a capable passagemaking vessel? - At face value, both seem to of equal merit.

Additionally, are those factory watertight bulkheads all they are said to be??? - what a factory feature! Big reason for my admiration among all the other commonsense attributes.

Impressive forum, thanks for any responses,

Damon Duval, potential Amel horizon hunter. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Joel,

You know that I am in Carriacou, Grenada and you know the currency is Eastern Caribbean Dollars. There is no EC one dollar bill and I had no US one dollar bill.

I used a $100 EC bill.

I didn't originally want to say that I was adjusting a refrigerator door with hundred dollar bills, but you brought it up.

For those that do not know $2.70 EC = $1.00 USD.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2016 4:27 PM, "'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hey Bill and Eric, my refrigeration guy told me to use a $100 bill as that’s what he will charge me to show up and replace it.

 

All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Yes, Eric.

When I was adjusting the door using a dollar bill, I could only get about 80% to seal...I could not get it all.

In fairness, I think the best way to adjust the door is with the refrigerator laying on its back and all 6 hinge screws loose...center the door, then tighten the 6 screws. I have not tried that, but I believe that may solve the issue. If not, when I have it out I'll make note of the model number and see if a magnetic gasket is available.

I will let you and everyone else know here.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2016 3:26 PM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

Please let me know what you find as I also need to replace the seal.

My HVAC guy showed me a trick. When you close something that has a seal. Put a dollar bill, between the seal and the mating surface. If you can pull the bill out easily you have a seal leak.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Derick,

Thanks for that. I know that number designates everything that is a mechanical ir electrical part in the refrigerator. It is the number for the kit consisting of compressor, evaporator, and condenser with cooling fan. It may also be the number for the cabinet...I'll check it out.

Bill Ro use
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2016 1:47 PM, "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

 

My Frigoboat model number on top of the fan housing says: AV 35 F

 

Are you looking for a different number (e.g. on the compressor)?

 

Derick

 

SM2k#400 Brava