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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi Craig,
Thanks for that. The wire in the railing goes through the tensioner……  :(
I have it all off now and the furler is on the bench with the gearbox awaiting surgery….

Just need to get it apart and see what seized

Thanks again.
Peter
Mango #70
Gradiva

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 29 May 2016 06:19:34 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

 

Hi Peter, 

You might also try slacking the aft lowers.
Craig, SN 68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Vladimir,

There is an excellent source of information here...

http://coxengineering dot sharepoint dot com/Pages/Anchoring.aspx

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 30 May 2016, at 01:11, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Bill.

On May 29, 2016 6:11 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir,

I may be wrong, but I think that you have two options that you may not have considered:

Buy a new gypsy from Lofrans to match the 31mm pitch...I think that Lofrans makes 3 different 10mm gypsies. They are around $200 each.

Or buy US chain that has a 30mm pitch...it is available.

Or, buy thw chain that you are looking at with 31mm pitch. Try it. If you don't like the way it works in the gypsy, then buy a Lofrans 31mm pitch gypsy.

Either of those are viable options.

One other remark about new chain: Whenever you install new galvanized chain, it will not begin to run smoothly through the gypsy until it has passed through the gypsy about 10-15 times. The reason ia that there will be small chips of zinc breaking off the chain as it passes through the gypsy. This is my experience and others that I have talked with about new chain.

BTW, I am fairly certain that most Americans don't realize the difference in pitch that is available in 10mm (3/8") chain. Most just buy what us available and if it is off by 1 or 2mm it just skips a little in the gypsy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 9:45 AM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Warren Traill
 

Thanks John. We will be at your shop on Thursday at 11am.

Look forward to meeting you.

Cheers,

Warren and Zetta



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2016 12:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!





Warren and Zetta,



I am at sea on Tuesday but should be around on Wednesday to Friday between 9 and 3. I'm normally coming and going so the office can contact me and best if you give me some notice.



Cheers

John Maramu #91, Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

karkauai
 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy 
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

jjjk12s@...
 

Warren and Zetta,

 

I am at sea on Tuesday but should be around on Wednesday to Friday between 9 and 3. I'm normally coming and going so the office can contact me and best if you give me some notice.

 

Cheers

John Maramu #91, Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Warren Traill
 

Hi John. We missed you when we visited Port Douglas the other week. You were out sailing of all things.

Wondering if there is a day this week that we could catch up with you and have a look over Popeye?

Please advise.

Cheers,

Warren and Zetta

0421282481

Sharki#15 Manon2



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2016 6:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!





Thank you Peregrinus and John



Very affirming. With some harsh injuries, these boats seem physically forgiving as well.

With all else being equal, stowage/weight would be the advantage on the larger Maramu for passagemaking.



Thank you for your responses.
Food for sought.



On Sunday, May 29, 2016 4:14 AM, "jjjk12s@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





Damon,



Sharkis do have a great use of space. Which model depends on what you want to do and what you can find. As they are old boats now the condition and history is important. I would much rather have a nice Sharki than a poorly kept Maramu. But for carrying capacity, rough weather comfort and long distance sailing I would rather have the bigger one. For economy of maintenance and staying in marinas the smaller one has advantages, especially for just a couple.



The water tight bulkheads are very good. The same clever ideas are there on the different models.



Also, if only Amel were kind enough to still make a smaller boat ......



John, Maramu #91, Popeye







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Thanks Bill.

On May 29, 2016 6:11 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir,

I may be wrong, but I think that you have two options that you may not have considered:

Buy a new gypsy from Lofrans to match the 31mm pitch...I think that Lofrans makes 3 different 10mm gypsies. They are around $200 each.

Or buy US chain that has a 30mm pitch...it is available.

Or, buy thw chain that you are looking at with 31mm pitch. Try it. If you don't like the way it works in the gypsy, then buy a Lofrans 31mm pitch gypsy.

Either of those are viable options.

One other remark about new chain: Whenever you install new galvanized chain, it will not begin to run smoothly through the gypsy until it has passed through the gypsy about 10-15 times. The reason ia that there will be small chips of zinc breaking off the chain as it passes through the gypsy. This is my experience and others that I have talked with about new chain.

BTW, I am fairly certain that most Americans don't realize the difference in pitch that is available in 10mm (3/8") chain. Most just buy what us available and if it is off by 1 or 2mm it just skips a little in the gypsy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 9:45 AM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Vladimir,

I may be wrong, but I think that you have two options that you may not have considered:

Buy a new gypsy from Lofrans to match the 31mm pitch...I think that Lofrans makes 3 different 10mm gypsies. They are around $200 each.

Or buy US chain that has a 30mm pitch...it is available.

Or, buy thw chain that you are looking at with 31mm pitch. Try it. If you don't like the way it works in the gypsy, then buy a Lofrans 31mm pitch gypsy.

Either of those are viable options.

One other remark about new chain: Whenever you install new galvanized chain, it will not begin to run smoothly through the gypsy until it has passed through the gypsy about 10-15 times. The reason ia that there will be small chips of zinc breaking off the chain as it passes through the gypsy. This is my experience and others that I have talked with about new chain.

BTW, I am fairly certain that most Americans don't realize the difference in pitch that is available in 10mm (3/8") chain. Most just buy what us available and if it is off by 1 or 2mm it just skips a little in the gypsy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 9:45 AM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

You may get better responses if you explain the year and model if your Amel and whether or not you have a bow thruster.

AND, what you have investigated and eliminated. This is not the first time I have urged you to be clear about what you have and what you want. There are a lot of people here that would like to help you, but you have to help us.

Please try to be specific and clear.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 4:18 PM, "ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Please let know the year and model of your AMEL. Without it is hard to help you. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On May 29, 2016, at 17:17, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

hey all,  I think it is at the elbow of the black pipe that is glassed in.  Right at the elbow of the Anchor wash.  It is salt water but not rusty salt water.


Re: Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

ericmeury@...
 

hey all,  I think it is at the elbow of the black pipe that is glassed in.  Right at the elbow of the Anchor wash.  It is salt water but not rusty salt water.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

antonio scipioni
 

Hi eric, I don't understand where you find water, are you sure is salt water ? And did you check the pump that is used to wash the chain?
Antonio
Vagabundo SN108

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 29/mag/2016, alle ore 22:18, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I resolved that problem by applying think grease on the part that goes through the seals. Grease improves seale.
Also make sure that the bow thruster is all the way up and locked with a pin.

On May 29, 2016 4:18 PM, "ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
> I'm sure this has been discussed before but.
>
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> Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.
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> Any other ideas?  Bow locker?
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Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

ericmeury@...
 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Damon Duval
 

Thank you Peregrinus and John

Very affirming. With some harsh injuries, these boats seem physically forgiving as well.
With all else being equal, stowage/weight would be the advantage on the larger Maramu for passagemaking.

Thank you for your responses. 
Food for sought.


On Sunday, May 29, 2016 4:14 AM, "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Damon,
 
Sharkis do have a great use of space. Which model depends on what you want to do and what you can find. As they are old boats now the condition and history is important. I would much rather have a nice Sharki than a poorly kept Maramu. But for carrying capacity, rough weather comfort and long distance sailing I would rather have the bigger one. For economy of maintenance and staying in marinas the smaller one has advantages, especially for just a couple. 
 
The water tight bulkheads are very good. The same clever ideas are there on the different models.
 
Also, if only Amel were kind enough to still make a smaller boat ...... 
 
John, Maramu #91, Popeye



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Peter, 
You might also try slacking the aft lowers.
Craig, SN 68 Sangaris


Re: Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

william_maffei@...
 

I concur with Kent. In the past I have serviced my furling motor and had to remove my forestay. I was able to do this by backing off the mizzen backstays and using the halyards ( I have 3, 2 extra and the head sail main halyard) to put the rig forward, allowing enough play to pop the pin from the forestay. I was then able to use the halyards as temporary stays while having the furling plate re-tapped and serviced. Worked like a charm. Small side note: I used electrical tape to mark the position of the rig when re-installing. The job only required 2 people. 

Cheers,

Bill Maffei
SM #195 
It's all Good


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Derick,

I think the under seat fridge freezer may have the exact components except the evaporator as the upright fridge.

Eric,

Yes,

I did the same thing with shimming the gasket.

All,

(I actually think my problem is having the door miss-adjusted for a while and drawing the door tight with the latch. I think this deformed the gasket. When the door is properly aligned the magnet should pull the door against the frame and the latch should only be necessary when the boat is actually moving. That latch has some adjustment also. Because time and bad adjustments have deformed the gasket, I need to start with a new magnetic gasket.

Bill
BeBe 387
Carriacou


On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:24 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

I was able to shim parts of the gasket in the lip of the gasket.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ya hoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Yes, Eric.

When I was adjusting the door using a dollar bill, I could only get about 80% to seal...I could not get it all.

In fairness, I think the best way to adjust the door is with the refrigerator laying on its back and all 6 hinge screws loose...center the door, then tighten the 6 screws. I have not tried that, but I believe that may solve the issue. If not, when I have it out I'll make note of the model number and see if a magnetic gasket is available.

I will let you and everyone else know here.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2016 3:26 PM, "'sailormon' < a href="mailto:kimberlite@...">kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

Please let me know what you find as I also need to replace the seal.

My HVAC guy showed me a trick. When you close something that has a seal. Put a dollar bill, between the seal and the mating surface. If you can pull the bill out easily you have a seal leak.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 20 16 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat Fridge Model # and Gasket

 

 

Derick,

Thanks for that. I know that number designates everything that is a mechanical ir electrical part in the refrigerator. It is the number for the kit consisting of compressor, evaporator, and condenser with cooling fan. It may also be the number for the cabinet...I'll check it out.

Bill Ro use
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 28, 2 016 1:47 PM, "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

 

My Frigoboat model number on top of the fan housing says: AV 35 F

 

Are you looking for a different number (e.g. on the compressor)?

 

Derick

 

SM2k#400 Brava