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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian,

Several years ago I bought a spare Actuator, Governor fir the Onan because I believe the only way to check if you have a problem is to replace it. If you were here, well you know!.

Also, when we were at Sounion, Greece (the tip of the peninsula from Athens, anchored below Poseidon's temple) I took a bus toward Athens and got off of the bus about 300 meters from an Onan dealer. BTW, I used my handheld GPS to know when to get off the bus. I did not have a Greek SIM in my iPhone.

The part number for my MDKAV is 151-0779-01 Actuator, Governor

Here is all of the information you will need:

Onan Cummins parts Greece:
Eneq Limited
49 Geroulanou Street
17455 Alimos
Tel: (30) 210 9886621
Fax: (30) 210 9885829
savvasonan"at"tee.gr

I hope this helps you.

Good Luck

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Carriacou, Grenada
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

Hi all,     
           My 7 KW Onan, reliable for 16 years with about 5,000 hours on it, has developed a fault with ( we think) the speed control. This is the part of the engine which governs the amount of fuel needed to maintain 1500 revs. As more load comes on, more fuel is released.

We noticed the problem when the engine note dipped significantly when more load was added and the exhaust spewed out black globs of half burnt fuel.

However, when the mechanic ( a good one, though not an Onan man ) pulled the speed control off the engine he could find nothing wrong. On reassembly, the Genset worked perfectly for another 10 hours or so but has now gone wrong again.

2 questions :
1 . Has anyone any suggestions as to how to fix this  ?
2  Can anyone recommend a good Onan mechanic based in the Ionian ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


Re: Onan generator

Alan Leslie
 

When did you last change the fuel filter on the ONAN ?
That could be the problem.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Lofrans anchor winch

Alan Leslie
 

You can use a small hand pump with a small dia. tube to extract the oil via the filling cap.
It takes 500 ml of 90 grade oil....there is a sight glass on the front of the windlass where you can see the oil level rising.
Yes you can overfill it...if you want to....but if you put 500 ml in it from empty, that will be correct.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans anchor winch and Genset

eric freedman
 

Hi Ian,

Windlass-You remove the fill cap and use a hand pump to remove the old oil.

The oil is SAE 90-140, .5 liters as per the attached link.

http://www.imtra.com/Collateral/Documents/English-US/Products/Lofrans_Gearbox_Oil_Capacity_Guide.pdf

This is the link for all the details of the windlass.

http://www.imtra.com/36a18088-f66d-44d3-a21f-2bb139f018f3/anchoring-windlasses-detail.htm

 

 

Generator-You might have a clogged exhaust elbow that builds back pressure after running or a bit

 

I just took the exhaust elbow off of my genset just 2 weeks ago.. I had to cut the heads off of 2 of the cap screws to be able to heat the stud to remove the remainder of the cap screws.

When I remove it, the manifold was clogged with very hard carbon and the gasket flange area was eroded.

I sent the manifold out to a machine shop and had it milled down to a nice shiny gasket flange and the also milled the carbon out. I only have about 1400 hours on the genset. It is much better now.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 4:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans anchor winch

 

 


I want to change the oil in my Lofrans.   
How can you drain the old oil ?
How much to refill -- can you overfill the oil reservoir ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


Lofrans anchor winch

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 


I want to change the oil in my Lofrans.   
How can you drain the old oil ?
How much to refill -- can you overfill the oil reservoir ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


Onan generator

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi all,     
           My 7 KW Onan, reliable for 16 years with about 5,000 hours on it, has developed a fault with ( we think) the speed control. This is the part of the engine which governs the amount of fuel needed to maintain 1500 revs. As more load comes on, more fuel is released.

We noticed the problem when the engine note dipped significantly when more load was added and the exhaust spewed out black globs of half burnt fuel.

However, when the mechanic ( a good one, though not an Onan man ) pulled the speed control off the engine he could find nothing wrong. On reassembly, the Genset worked perfectly for another 10 hours or so but has now gone wrong again.

2 questions :
1 . Has anyone any suggestions as to how to fix this  ?
2  Can anyone recommend a good Onan mechanic based in the Ionian ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi Bill,
Thanks for the advice. I did use the halyards. One to support the furler extrusion and one to pull the mast forward. In the age of the iPhone I took some images to help with the reinstall.
I will post images when it’s back together.
Thanks

Peter
Mango #70
Gradiva 

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 29 May 2016 05:49:25 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

 

I concur with Kent. In the past I have serviced my furling motor and had to remove my forestay. I was able to do this by backing off the mizzen backstays and using the halyards ( I have 3, 2 extra and the head sail main halyard) to put the rig forward, allowing enough play to pop the pin from the forestay. I was then able to use the halyards as temporary stays while having the furling plate re-tapped and serviced. Worked like a charm. Small side note: I used electrical tape to mark the position of the rig when re-installing. The job only required 2 people. 


Cheers,

Bill Maffei
SM #195 
It's all Good


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi Craig,
Thanks for that. The wire in the railing goes through the tensioner……  :(
I have it all off now and the furler is on the bench with the gearbox awaiting surgery….

Just need to get it apart and see what seized

Thanks again.
Peter
Mango #70
Gradiva

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 29 May 2016 06:19:34 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Forstay and Furler removal.

 

Hi Peter, 

You might also try slacking the aft lowers.
Craig, SN 68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Vladimir,

There is an excellent source of information here...

http://coxengineering dot sharepoint dot com/Pages/Anchoring.aspx

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 30 May 2016, at 01:11, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Bill.

On May 29, 2016 6:11 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir,

I may be wrong, but I think that you have two options that you may not have considered:

Buy a new gypsy from Lofrans to match the 31mm pitch...I think that Lofrans makes 3 different 10mm gypsies. They are around $200 each.

Or buy US chain that has a 30mm pitch...it is available.

Or, buy thw chain that you are looking at with 31mm pitch. Try it. If you don't like the way it works in the gypsy, then buy a Lofrans 31mm pitch gypsy.

Either of those are viable options.

One other remark about new chain: Whenever you install new galvanized chain, it will not begin to run smoothly through the gypsy until it has passed through the gypsy about 10-15 times. The reason ia that there will be small chips of zinc breaking off the chain as it passes through the gypsy. This is my experience and others that I have talked with about new chain.

BTW, I am fairly certain that most Americans don't realize the difference in pitch that is available in 10mm (3/8") chain. Most just buy what us available and if it is off by 1 or 2mm it just skips a little in the gypsy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 9:45 AM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Warren Traill
 

Thanks John. We will be at your shop on Thursday at 11am.

Look forward to meeting you.

Cheers,

Warren and Zetta



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2016 12:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!





Warren and Zetta,



I am at sea on Tuesday but should be around on Wednesday to Friday between 9 and 3. I'm normally coming and going so the office can contact me and best if you give me some notice.



Cheers

John Maramu #91, Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

karkauai
 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy 
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

jjjk12s@...
 

Warren and Zetta,

 

I am at sea on Tuesday but should be around on Wednesday to Friday between 9 and 3. I'm normally coming and going so the office can contact me and best if you give me some notice.

 

Cheers

John Maramu #91, Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!

Warren Traill
 

Hi John. We missed you when we visited Port Douglas the other week. You were out sailing of all things.

Wondering if there is a day this week that we could catch up with you and have a look over Popeye?

Please advise.

Cheers,

Warren and Zetta

0421282481

Sharki#15 Manon2



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2016 6:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible New [used really] Amel on the horizon!





Thank you Peregrinus and John



Very affirming. With some harsh injuries, these boats seem physically forgiving as well.

With all else being equal, stowage/weight would be the advantage on the larger Maramu for passagemaking.



Thank you for your responses.
Food for sought.



On Sunday, May 29, 2016 4:14 AM, "jjjk12s@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





Damon,



Sharkis do have a great use of space. Which model depends on what you want to do and what you can find. As they are old boats now the condition and history is important. I would much rather have a nice Sharki than a poorly kept Maramu. But for carrying capacity, rough weather comfort and long distance sailing I would rather have the bigger one. For economy of maintenance and staying in marinas the smaller one has advantages, especially for just a couple.



The water tight bulkheads are very good. The same clever ideas are there on the different models.



Also, if only Amel were kind enough to still make a smaller boat ......



John, Maramu #91, Popeye







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Thanks Bill.

On May 29, 2016 6:11 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir,

I may be wrong, but I think that you have two options that you may not have considered:

Buy a new gypsy from Lofrans to match the 31mm pitch...I think that Lofrans makes 3 different 10mm gypsies. They are around $200 each.

Or buy US chain that has a 30mm pitch...it is available.

Or, buy thw chain that you are looking at with 31mm pitch. Try it. If you don't like the way it works in the gypsy, then buy a Lofrans 31mm pitch gypsy.

Either of those are viable options.

One other remark about new chain: Whenever you install new galvanized chain, it will not begin to run smoothly through the gypsy until it has passed through the gypsy about 10-15 times. The reason ia that there will be small chips of zinc breaking off the chain as it passes through the gypsy. This is my experience and others that I have talked with about new chain.

BTW, I am fairly certain that most Americans don't realize the difference in pitch that is available in 10mm (3/8") chain. Most just buy what us available and if it is off by 1 or 2mm it just skips a little in the gypsy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 9:45 AM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] chain size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Vladimir,

I may be wrong, but I think that you have two options that you may not have considered:

Buy a new gypsy from Lofrans to match the 31mm pitch...I think that Lofrans makes 3 different 10mm gypsies. They are around $200 each.

Or buy US chain that has a 30mm pitch...it is available.

Or, buy thw chain that you are looking at with 31mm pitch. Try it. If you don't like the way it works in the gypsy, then buy a Lofrans 31mm pitch gypsy.

Either of those are viable options.

One other remark about new chain: Whenever you install new galvanized chain, it will not begin to run smoothly through the gypsy until it has passed through the gypsy about 10-15 times. The reason ia that there will be small chips of zinc breaking off the chain as it passes through the gypsy. This is my experience and others that I have talked with about new chain.

BTW, I am fairly certain that most Americans don't realize the difference in pitch that is available in 10mm (3/8") chain. Most just buy what us available and if it is off by 1 or 2mm it just skips a little in the gypsy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 9:45 AM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, thanks for your email and for good information.

That problem was discussed before, but I could not find the conclusion for this discusion.
I hope that someone already tried that. It is less expensive to buy US chain.

On May 29, 2016 8:07 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladamir,

Be careful, your gypsy is cut for a pitch of 30mm and the chain you are looking at has probably a pitch of 31mm. Pitch is the measurement of the inside of the length of a link.

American chain is made mainly to ISO G30 and G43 standards with longer links that may not fit European gypsies. I believe that Lofrans makes a gypsy for 10mm (3/8") that has a 31 pitch.


Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Gary,

I want to buy 3/8 " G4 ACCO chain. I have original P 30 gypsy. Is it going to work? Did it work for you?

Vladimir Sonsev
SM 345 "Life is Good"
Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

You may get better responses if you explain the year and model if your Amel and whether or not you have a bow thruster.

AND, what you have investigated and eliminated. This is not the first time I have urged you to be clear about what you have and what you want. There are a lot of people here that would like to help you, but you have to help us.

Please try to be specific and clear.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 29, 2016 4:18 PM, "ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Please let know the year and model of your AMEL. Without it is hard to help you. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On May 29, 2016, at 17:17, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

hey all,  I think it is at the elbow of the black pipe that is glassed in.  Right at the elbow of the Anchor wash.  It is salt water but not rusty salt water.


Re: Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

ericmeury@...
 

hey all,  I think it is at the elbow of the black pipe that is glassed in.  Right at the elbow of the Anchor wash.  It is salt water but not rusty salt water.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

antonio scipioni
 

Hi eric, I don't understand where you find water, are you sure is salt water ? And did you check the pump that is used to wash the chain?
Antonio
Vagabundo SN108

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Il giorno 29/mag/2016, alle ore 22:18, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I resolved that problem by applying think grease on the part that goes through the seals. Grease improves seale.
Also make sure that the bow thruster is all the way up and locked with a pin.

On May 29, 2016 4:18 PM, "ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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