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Main sheet traveler for Super Maramu

Mark Pitt
 

One of the sheaves of my main sheet traveler car has broken.  Does anyone know how to source a new sheave or a new traveler car?  I do not know the make and model of the traveler car on my Super Marmu redline -- Goiot, Antal,...?  It is no label on it.  Is there a recommendation of a traveler car that fits the existing track?  My main sheet traveler has been difficult to move since new.  Perhaps I need new bearings in addition to a new sheave.


Thanks.


   Mark Pitt

   "Sabbatical III" ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Richard,

Where is that seacock?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:54 AM, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

There is a salt water feed sea cock to the forward head. That hose can leak and the old hose clamps fail with time. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

On May 29, 2016, at 23:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy&nbs p;
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

rossienio@...
 

AMEL document into the boat's electrical schematic page says (in French) :
"Un circuit de terre existe entre tous le conducteurs AC couleur jaune/vert relie à la terre courant de terre. Ce circuit terre est connecté au circuit "masse" de bord qui relie le lest,la meche, le bloc moto propulseur, le reservoir et les tuyaux de fuel, les vanne de coque......les CARCASSES d'appareils AC....." Since he also speaks of carcasses AC devices, i thought it would be fine also connect the Sterling charger.  But now I'm worried......and I do not know where to find someone competent of AMEL boats. Regards.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Enio

The short answer is NO.

The not so short answer is EARTH IS NOT AMEL BONDING.

For a precise answer you need to consult with an electrician familiar with Amel bonding and that Sterling charger. And, just because the charger manufacturer says do something, does NOT mean that it will be the right answer.

Be absolutely sure that the electrician is familiar with Amel bonding!

If you do the wrong thing the consequences will not be apparent for a year or more. Doing the wrong thing can cause electrolysis.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:25 AM, "rossienio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent !!!

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, you should share what doing the wrong thing might do to Enio's boat.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:28 AM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,

Do you want to pipe in here

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

 

 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I will check out those condensers.  I just don't know how generator can shut down without throwing a breaker?

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On May 30, 2016, at 8:23 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

OK, you know how difficult it is to diagnose something by email, but, I will risk being wrong:
Your problem is centered around the High Pressure pump motor. I am going to guess that the pair of condensers on top of that motor are either bad or there is a short in the wiring there.

I saw the exact symptoms on another 160L SM. The guy had recently changed the condensers and wired them wrong. I assume that you have not changed anything so I assume either bad condensers or a short. Of course you could have an electric motor problem, but check out the condensers.

Floow this link for additional info:

Let me know if this helps.

Bill
BeBe 387
Carriacou


On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:13 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  


I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  


It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow rela ted.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 


I could use some team help.

Thanks 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Eric
I'm pretty sure unit draws 15 amps so at startup maybe 25 momentarily .. Not enough to throw a breaker, but breakers ar never thrown .  Generator just shuts down. 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On May 30, 2016, at 8:16 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

There is a salt water feed sea cock to the forward head. That hose can leak and the old hose clamps fail with time. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On May 29, 2016, at 23:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy 
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Kent !!!

eric freedman
 

Kent,

Do you want to pipe in here

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

 

 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


correct installation of a new charger

rossienio@...
 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

eric freedman
 

I would check the capacitors on the high pressure pump.

That’s my best guess- unless there is a short in the motor or wiring.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

No. Only that generator shuts down

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

CG #1120066

SM #347


On May 30, 2016, at 8:16 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

No. Only that generator shuts down

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On May 30, 2016, at 8:16 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

OK, you know how difficult it is to diagnose something by email, but, I will risk being wrong:
Your problem is centered around the High Pressure pump motor. I am going to guess that the pair of condensers on top of that motor are either bad or there is a short in the wiring there.

I saw the exact symptoms on another 160L SM. The guy had recently changed the condensers and wired them wrong. I assume that you have not changed anything so I assume either bad condensers or a short. Of course you could have an electric motor problem, but check out the condensers.

Floow this link for additional info:

Let me know if this helps.

Bill
BeBe 387
Carriacou


On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:13 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  


I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  


It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow rela ted.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 


I could use some team help.

Thanks 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

eric freedman
 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 

 


Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  


I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  


It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 


I could use some team help.

Thanks 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian,

Several years ago I bought a spare Actuator, Governor fir the Onan because I believe the only way to check if you have a problem is to replace it. If you were here, well you know!.

Also, when we were at Sounion, Greece (the tip of the peninsula from Athens, anchored below Poseidon's temple) I took a bus toward Athens and got off of the bus about 300 meters from an Onan dealer. BTW, I used my handheld GPS to know when to get off the bus. I did not have a Greek SIM in my iPhone.

The part number for my MDKAV is 151-0779-01 Actuator, Governor

Here is all of the information you will need:

Onan Cummins parts Greece:
Eneq Limited
49 Geroulanou Street
17455 Alimos
Tel: (30) 210 9886621
Fax: (30) 210 9885829
savvasonan"at"tee.gr

I hope this helps you.

Good Luck

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Carriacou, Grenada
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

Hi all,     
           My 7 KW Onan, reliable for 16 years with about 5,000 hours on it, has developed a fault with ( we think) the speed control. This is the part of the engine which governs the amount of fuel needed to maintain 1500 revs. As more load comes on, more fuel is released.

We noticed the problem when the engine note dipped significantly when more load was added and the exhaust spewed out black globs of half burnt fuel.

However, when the mechanic ( a good one, though not an Onan man ) pulled the speed control off the engine he could find nothing wrong. On reassembly, the Genset worked perfectly for another 10 hours or so but has now gone wrong again.

2 questions :
1 . Has anyone any suggestions as to how to fix this  ?
2  Can anyone recommend a good Onan mechanic based in the Ionian ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


Re: Onan generator

Alan Leslie
 

When did you last change the fuel filter on the ONAN ?
That could be the problem.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Lofrans anchor winch

Alan Leslie
 

You can use a small hand pump with a small dia. tube to extract the oil via the filling cap.
It takes 500 ml of 90 grade oil....there is a sight glass on the front of the windlass where you can see the oil level rising.
Yes you can overfill it...if you want to....but if you put 500 ml in it from empty, that will be correct.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans anchor winch and Genset

eric freedman
 

Hi Ian,

Windlass-You remove the fill cap and use a hand pump to remove the old oil.

The oil is SAE 90-140, .5 liters as per the attached link.

http://www.imtra.com/Collateral/Documents/English-US/Products/Lofrans_Gearbox_Oil_Capacity_Guide.pdf

This is the link for all the details of the windlass.

http://www.imtra.com/36a18088-f66d-44d3-a21f-2bb139f018f3/anchoring-windlasses-detail.htm

 

 

Generator-You might have a clogged exhaust elbow that builds back pressure after running or a bit

 

I just took the exhaust elbow off of my genset just 2 weeks ago.. I had to cut the heads off of 2 of the cap screws to be able to heat the stud to remove the remainder of the cap screws.

When I remove it, the manifold was clogged with very hard carbon and the gasket flange area was eroded.

I sent the manifold out to a machine shop and had it milled down to a nice shiny gasket flange and the also milled the carbon out. I only have about 1400 hours on the genset. It is much better now.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 4:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans anchor winch

 

 


I want to change the oil in my Lofrans.   
How can you drain the old oil ?
How much to refill -- can you overfill the oil reservoir ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


Lofrans anchor winch

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 


I want to change the oil in my Lofrans.   
How can you drain the old oil ?
How much to refill -- can you overfill the oil reservoir ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece