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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Bill there is a small sea cock under the floor in front of the forward head door. On many SM and Maramus it feed the forward head and anchor wash systems. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On May 30, 2016, at 12:17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

Yes, I assumed that Richard was talking about older boats.

I simply asked where the seacock was located. You answered my question.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On May 30, 2016 11:59 AM, "Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


Richard is talking about older boats that have a local seawater supply to the fore and aft heads.  In both cases there are seacocks just outside the head in the “hallway”.

In later models Amel added the toilet feeds to the main seachest.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 30, 2016, at 11:03, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Richard,

Where is that seacock?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:54 AM, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

There is a salt water feed sea cock to the forward head. That hose can leak and the old hose clamps fail with time. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

On May 29, 2016, at 23:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy&nbs p;
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main sheet traveler for Super Maramu

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Mark,

this is a LEWMAR that you will be able to recognize if you go the the LEWMAR dot com website. Google search "lewmar sheet traveller".

Have a good evening.

Olivier.


On Monday, May 30, 2016 5:14 PM, "mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners]"


 
One of the sheaves of my main sheet traveler car has broken.  Does anyone know how to source a new sheave or a new traveler car?  I do not know the make and model of the traveler car on my Super Marmu redline -- Goiot, Antal,...?  It is no label on it.  Is there a recommendation of a traveler car that fits the existing track?  My main sheet traveler has been difficult to move since new.  Perhaps I need new bearings in addition to a new sheave.

Thanks.

   Mark Pitt
   "Sabbatical III" ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy





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Re: Main sheet traveler for Super Maramu

Walter
 

Hi Mark,
check this.
http://www.lewmar.com/node/11426
I was wrong with with Lewmar Ocean size 2 and 3 being out of production. Good news.
The catalog I´ll put into the files section shows no travellers, only genua cars, but the bodies are the same.

Regards,
Walter (Noa, SM2K #436)


Re: Main sheet traveler for Super Maramu

Walter
 

Hi Mark,
the main sheet traveller is Lewmar Ocean. I´ll put the Spares Catalogue in the files section. To my knowledge the more substantial Lewmar Ocean series are out of production. It is possible to disassemble the sheaves. Maybe there are some spares at Amel, otherwise a good toolshop can built a new sheave out of delrin. Perhaps a current Lewmar traveller will fit to the old track.

Regards,
Walter (Noa, SM2K #436)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent !!!

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

A rather good description of why floating grounds are important, how they are different than bonding systems, and why the two should never meet can be found here:

http://www.marinesurvey.com/yacht/ElectricalSystems.htm

If you can’t find an electrician who is “Amel savvy”, find one who is used to working on boats with aluminum hulls.  They have similar systems with the DC ground totally isolated from the hull. Unfortunately, those can be as hard to find in the US as ones with Amel knowledge.




On May 30, 2016, at 11:53, rossienio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Kent, thanks for the warning. I have now installed the Sterling charger (without inverter) and without connection to the bonding system. But even so, when the charger is working, I find voltage (2.8V) between the engine block and the generator which is connected to its own battery, but loaded by the same Sterling. If the Sterling is off everything is ok. Mystery!!!!!



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

Yes, I assumed that Richard was talking about older boats.

I simply asked where the seacock was located. You answered my question.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On May 30, 2016 11:59 AM, "Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


Richard is talking about older boats that have a local seawater supply to the fore and aft heads.  In both cases there are seacocks just outside the head in the “hallway”.

In later models Amel added the toilet feeds to the main seachest.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 30, 2016, at 11:03, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Richard,

Where is that seacock?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:54 AM, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

There is a salt water feed sea cock to the forward head. That hose can leak and the old hose clamps fail with time. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

On May 29, 2016, at 23:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy&nbs p;
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Bill,

Richard is talking about older boats that have a local seawater supply to the fore and aft heads.  In both cases there are seacocks just outside the head in the “hallway”.

In later models Amel added the toilet feeds to the main seachest.

Bill Kinney
Harmonie, SM160
Port Canaveral, Florida


On May 30, 2016, at 11:03, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Richard,

Where is that seacock?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:54 AM, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

There is a salt water feed sea cock to the forward head. That hose can leak and the old hose clamps fail with time. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

On May 29, 2016, at 23:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy&nbs p;
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent !!!

rossienio@...
 

Hi Kent, thanks for the warning. I have now installed the Sterling charger (without inverter) and without connection to the bonding system. But even so, when the charger is working, I find voltage (2.8V) between the engine block and the generator which is connected to its own battery, but loaded by the same Sterling. If the Sterling is off everything is ok. Mystery!!!!!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I am not exactly sure of the answer, but I witnessed this exact occurrence after a SM owner wired the new capacitors on the pump motor wrong.

Here is what happened: The Onan momentarily struggled when the HP pump turned ON after the 2 minute timer, then shut down.

Possibly the computer on the Onan senses a demand that is outside of its capacity and shuts down before the breaker reaches the capacity. But, I am not sure. Computers on diesels are a wonderful thing. Be sure to than the US EPA!

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On May 30, 2016 11:24 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand how a faulty motor causes the generator to shut down without throwing a breaker.  Can someone elucidate?
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On May 30, 2016, at 9:22 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I would check the capacitors on the high pressure pump.

That’s my best guess- unless there is a short in the motor or wiring.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

No. Only that generator shuts down

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

CG #1120066

SM #347


On May 30, 2016, at 8:16 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main sheet traveler for Super Maramu

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

I do not know. But, I would ask a local rigger. Sheaves come in various sizes and they are custom made by several people. My guess is that any rigger worth his salt will help you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 11:14 AM, "mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

One of the sheaves of my main sheet traveler car has broken.  Does anyone know how to source a new sheave or a new traveler car?  I do not know the make and model of the traveler car on my Super Marmu redline -- Goiot, Antal,...?  It is no label on it.  Is there a recommendation of a traveler car that fits the existing track?  My main sheet traveler has been difficult to move since new.  Perhaps I need new bearings in addition to a new sheave.


Thanks.


   Mark Pitt

   "Sabbatical III" ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

karkauai
 

I don't understand how a faulty motor causes the generator to shut down without throwing a breaker.  Can someone elucidate?
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On May 30, 2016, at 9:22 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I would check the capacitors on the high pressure pump.

That’s my best guess- unless there is a short in the motor or wiring.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

No. Only that generator shuts down

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

CG #1120066

SM #347


On May 30, 2016, at 8:16 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent !!!

karkauai
 

Hi Enio et al.
I had a Sterling charger/inverter that was installed by an American marine electrician.  I didn't understand the Amel system at the time and went along with the electrician, who connected that grounding screw to the bonding system as shown in the instructions.  Bad move!!!

After a few months of apparently normal charging at the dock (I visited the boat twice a month) I found the batteries cooked.  I was lucky I didn't have a fire.  After changing the batteries it was obvious that the Sterling had failed and over-charged the batteries.  I checked with Sterling and they don't have a repair facility in the US.  It would have cost an arm and a leg to send it back to England.  I replaced it with a 60 A Charles charger with the idea that I would get another charger/inverter in the near future.  The new charger was also "grounded " to the bonding system.

A few months later with everything apparently working correctly, I hauled out to repainted the bottom.  I discovered that the zincs were gone(after only a couple of months), and while changing the prop seals I found that a third of the prop shaft was eaten away by electrolysis just aft of the "wearing out" bushing's o-ring.

A year and $20K later I had a new CDrive, and was much wiser about the Amel electrical systems.

There is a loooong thread about this about 2 years ago.

In short (well, too late for that) I found several things attached to the bonding system that should not have been.  These had been done both before and after I bought the boat and were generally done by ABYC standards.

After months of looking, I have been unable to identify all battery-to-bonding connections and still have voltage between the negative battery pole and the 
engine block.  

I purchased a silver/silver chloride reference electrode to keep track of my hull potential, and it always reads as it should, with all electrical equipment off, and with all equipment running.  My zincs are lasting six months or more again.

I have decided NOT to replace the charger/inverter.  There are apparently internal connections that are not compatible with Amel practice.  If I want to run the microwave or make a pot of coffee, I run the genset.

Do NOT connect the Sterling or any other battery charger to the bonding system!  Until you understand this fully, I recommend that you have all electrical installations done by an Amel yard, or someone who does.

Sorry for the long answer, but I'm still reeling over the errors made by supposedly knowledgeable electricians.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
"Currently" Bonaire (~:


On May 30, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

Do you want to pipe in here

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

 

 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


Main sheet traveler for Super Maramu

Mark Pitt
 

One of the sheaves of my main sheet traveler car has broken.  Does anyone know how to source a new sheave or a new traveler car?  I do not know the make and model of the traveler car on my Super Marmu redline -- Goiot, Antal,...?  It is no label on it.  Is there a recommendation of a traveler car that fits the existing track?  My main sheet traveler has been difficult to move since new.  Perhaps I need new bearings in addition to a new sheave.


Thanks.


   Mark Pitt

   "Sabbatical III" ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salt Water in Bilge in hallway next to fwd head.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Richard,

Where is that seacock?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:54 AM, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

There is a salt water feed sea cock to the forward head. That hose can leak and the old hose clamps fail with time. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

On May 29, 2016, at 23:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric has a Santorin, not sure of hull number.  No air conditioners, so most likely the bow thruster.  There are some good instructions on how to tweak the tension on the cable, I think in the files section.  I found that if I use a sealant around the lip seal, and pack the seal with waterproof grease, it lasts a lot longer.

Other possibilities are chain wash pump connections, and chain locker drain connections or valve.

Those with Air Conditioning could have a leak in the cooling pump system.  Anything that leaks forward of the bulkhead will accumulate there.

Where are y'all now?  Still on the Chesapeake?
Kent
SM243
Kristy&nbs p;
Currently Bonaire 


On May 29, 2016, at 4:18 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm sure this has been discussed before but.


Why is there salt water accumulating in the bilge area in front of my, i just replaced the bow thruster seals these are brand new.


Any other ideas?  Bow locker?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

rossienio@...
 

AMEL document into the boat's electrical schematic page says (in French) :
"Un circuit de terre existe entre tous le conducteurs AC couleur jaune/vert relie à la terre courant de terre. Ce circuit terre est connecté au circuit "masse" de bord qui relie le lest,la meche, le bloc moto propulseur, le reservoir et les tuyaux de fuel, les vanne de coque......les CARCASSES d'appareils AC....." Since he also speaks of carcasses AC devices, i thought it would be fine also connect the Sterling charger.  But now I'm worried......and I do not know where to find someone competent of AMEL boats. Regards.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Enio

The short answer is NO.

The not so short answer is EARTH IS NOT AMEL BONDING.

For a precise answer you need to consult with an electrician familiar with Amel bonding and that Sterling charger. And, just because the charger manufacturer says do something, does NOT mean that it will be the right answer.

Be absolutely sure that the electrician is familiar with Amel bonding!

If you do the wrong thing the consequences will not be apparent for a year or more. Doing the wrong thing can cause electrolysis.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:25 AM, "rossienio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent !!!

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, you should share what doing the wrong thing might do to Enio's boat.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 30, 2016 9:28 AM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,

Do you want to pipe in here

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] correct installation of a new charger

 

 

Good afternoon everybody.

 I replaced the old battery charger TECSUP with a more powerful Sterling. This has a screw on the casing wich I believe will serve to be connected to the earth of the boat.  What should I do? Put a wire to be connected at any point of the bonding system, it is correct? 

And what problems there might be unless I connect it?

Thanks for your help. Enio


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I will check out those condensers.  I just don't know how generator can shut down without throwing a breaker?

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On May 30, 2016, at 8:23 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

OK, you know how difficult it is to diagnose something by email, but, I will risk being wrong:
Your problem is centered around the High Pressure pump motor. I am going to guess that the pair of condensers on top of that motor are either bad or there is a short in the wiring there.

I saw the exact symptoms on another 160L SM. The guy had recently changed the condensers and wired them wrong. I assume that you have not changed anything so I assume either bad condensers or a short. Of course you could have an electric motor problem, but check out the condensers.

Floow this link for additional info:

Let me know if this helps.

Bill
BeBe 387
Carriacou


On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:13 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  


I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  


It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow rela ted.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 


I could use some team help.

Thanks 


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Eric
I'm pretty sure unit draws 15 amps so at startup maybe 25 momentarily .. Not enough to throw a breaker, but breakers ar never thrown .  Generator just shuts down. 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On May 30, 2016, at 8:16 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do you know how much current the water maker is drawing just before it shuts down?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown

 

 

Dessalator 160 causes generator to shutdown but no breakers thrown.  I can run all - 3 airs, charger, washer - simultaneity.  But when Dessalator is turned on generator shuts down.  No breakers on inside panel or on generator are thrown; generator just shuts down. I can restart immediately but as soon as Dessalator is started it shuts down again.  

 

I tried turning all off including charger and turning Dessalator alone on but same thing.  Specifically, when I turn on unit low pressure pump starts up and pressure gauge is in green.. It runs for a few seconds until high pressure pump starts which immediately causes generator to shut down.  I never touch the high pressure control knob which is turned all the way counterclockwise so there should be no pressure.  

 

It seems as no breakers are thrown on either generator or Dessalator, this must be water flow related.  That is, not enough flow for both generator and Dessalator .  By the way, system has new high pressure hoses and membranes and worked well during first use after new membranes filling tank with good water just last week. However it did shut down once for no apparent reason on initial use. 

 

I could use some team help.

Thanks 

 

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Dominica