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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango

WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
 

If you or anyone is interested in my 1981 Maramu that I am offering for sale , please e-mail me at sidecar1@verizon.net for a complete description and photographs.
Bill Klein

----- Original Message -----
From: gvolos
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango


Hi William,
Could you please send me more info on the Marabu? I will be visiting
the Mango on Friday, and I'll be back home on Monday.


Darn Batteries-Link 10

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

You have to check the Link 10 equipment. This controls the charging of the
batteries you have to reset and adjust the unit accordingly to the voltage
you want. There is no manual in the net for the link 10 but there is some
information in the www.xantrex.com <http://www.xantrex.com/> where the is a
faq section. I have the manual in paper and I could not find the original
pdf file if I find it I will inform you.







Dimitris

S/Y Alma Libre

SM-2000





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Darn Batteries



Hi Tony

I also have the Dolphin chargers 2 50 amp units. I use them in
combination when I charge with the generator and a single unit when I
am on shore power.

If your unit is similar to the one that i have there should be a
selector switch that allows you to choose the type of battery that
you are charging. If you select the GEL setting it will charge at a
higher voltage and a higher amprage. BEWARE when you hook into shore
power make sure that you put the selector switch back to the setting
for wet cell batteries. Because if you leave it on GEL you may run
the danger of cooking the batteries. I learned this the hard way.

However, if you use this feature to slightly overcharge your
batteries say 8 to 10 hours this will help condition your batteries
and help them hold a higher voltage.

Its also important to monitor the the amount of amps that your
battery bank is accepting as well as the voltage. There is much
information out there on this subject.

Hope this helps

Vito Ciaravin

ASM 283

Anchored in Sydney harbor.

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello group,

I own SM#266. About six months ago I talked with the Amel factory
and discussed my battery / charger problems. They assured me that
I
needed to replace my current batteries. I did that in St. Maartin,
new wet cells. Same problem as before. We sailed to Guadaloupe
and
talked to Amel there. We were directed to Pouchon. The man at
Pouchon said that our battery charger (Nemo 50) was defective. I
told him to fix it, he said no, it was too old (1999) there were no
parts. He sold me and installed a new Dolphin 100 amp. charger.
New
batteries, new charger same old problem.

Problem;

Charger works fine, charges batteries to 27.3 volts and then
quits.
I just talked to Rolls Batteries, and they said I needed to be able
to charge to 28.4 to prevent "deficet charging" and to 31 volts to
de-
sulfate the batteries.

The batteries show 100% charge (Mastervolt) and 27.3 volts and will
stay like that with the charger going for as long as I leave it.
As
soon as the charger is off line the voltage drops to 25.6 and
starts
dropping until I charge the batteries again. Currently I must run
the generator two to three times a day to keep up with the demand.

When using the main engine and 80 amp 24 volt alternator, the same
things happens, the charge stops at 27.3 volts and about 3 - 5
aamps.

Question: Is there an Amel voltage regulator that gets both the
charger and alternator current? Where is it? Can it be adjusted?
I
have talked with Denis at Dolphin and it does not seem that my
charger has mulitple programs, so I can not use it to "equalize" my
batteries.

Any comments?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


Supermaramu "JUJUBE" on sale.

laphroaig_61 <laphroaig_61@...>
 

Due to my job location, I'm selling my Supermaramu Jujube. Year 1998.
Perfect conditions ! A lot of accessories. Locate in Rome - Italy.
Please email me if interested for a complete description and photoes.

angelo.savioli@mac.com

Angelo
Rome
Italy


Re: Darn Batteries

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Tony

I also have the Dolphin chargers 2 50 amp units. I use them in
combination when I charge with the generator and a single unit when I
am on shore power.

If your unit is similar to the one that i have there should be a
selector switch that allows you to choose the type of battery that
you are charging. If you select the GEL setting it will charge at a
higher voltage and a higher amprage. BEWARE when you hook into shore
power make sure that you put the selector switch back to the setting
for wet cell batteries. Because if you leave it on GEL you may run
the danger of cooking the batteries. I learned this the hard way.

However, if you use this feature to slightly overcharge your
batteries say 8 to 10 hours this will help condition your batteries
and help them hold a higher voltage.

Its also important to monitor the the amount of amps that your
battery bank is accepting as well as the voltage. There is much
information out there on this subject.

Hope this helps

Vito Ciaravin

ASM 283

Anchored in Sydney harbor.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello group,

I own SM#266. About six months ago I talked with the Amel factory
and discussed my battery / charger problems. They assured me that
I
needed to replace my current batteries. I did that in St. Maartin,
new wet cells. Same problem as before. We sailed to Guadaloupe
and
talked to Amel there. We were directed to Pouchon. The man at
Pouchon said that our battery charger (Nemo 50) was defective. I
told him to fix it, he said no, it was too old (1999) there were no
parts. He sold me and installed a new Dolphin 100 amp. charger.
New
batteries, new charger same old problem.

Problem;

Charger works fine, charges batteries to 27.3 volts and then
quits.
I just talked to Rolls Batteries, and they said I needed to be able
to charge to 28.4 to prevent "deficet charging" and to 31 volts to
de-
sulfate the batteries.

The batteries show 100% charge (Mastervolt) and 27.3 volts and will
stay like that with the charger going for as long as I leave it.
As
soon as the charger is off line the voltage drops to 25.6 and
starts
dropping until I charge the batteries again. Currently I must run
the generator two to three times a day to keep up with the demand.

When using the main engine and 80 amp 24 volt alternator, the same
things happens, the charge stops at 27.3 volts and about 3 - 5
aamps.

Question: Is there an Amel voltage regulator that gets both the
charger and alternator current? Where is it? Can it be adjusted?
I
have talked with Denis at Dolphin and it does not seem that my
charger has mulitple programs, so I can not use it to "equalize" my
batteries.

Any comments?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango

George Volos
 

Hi William,
Could you please send me more info on the Marabu? I will be visiting
the Mango on Friday, and I'll be back home on Monday.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Darn Batteries

edmund_steele
 

Tony,
My manuals are on the boat so I will provide some thoughts from memory. Perhaps my comments will provoke someone else, with more experience in these issues, to contradict me.

First, I own SM #331 which was originally equipped with Delco "sealed" lead acid batteries and a pair of Sentry battery chargers. I have tracked the wiring on the battery chargers and the alternator. There is no "master regulator" on our system. The battery chargers are wired directly to the batteries, as is the alternator. The only adjustable setting is that the Sentry chargers may be set to either "gel" or "free cell". The gel setting is a half a volt higher than the lead acid setting. Two years ago I replaced the original batteries with lead acid Trojan (non-sealed) batteries. I use the gel setting while cruising, because it charges the batteries faster and then switch back to the free cell setting when we are hooked up to city power at a marina. The 24 V alternator has a built in regulator and there is no "gel" or "free cell" setting on this. To boost the charging voltage, you would typically add an in-line diode to the field sensing wire between the battery bank and the alternator. This would drop the sensing voltage from the battery bank by half a volt and thereby boost the charging voltage by a similar amount. We have never done this and our voltages are almost identical to those you describe. That is, we do not have a 28.4 Volt deficit charging option, nor a 31 Volt desulphating option.

When under passage, I check out the number of ampere hours used, twice daily. Both battery chargers will provide a little over 60 amps positive flow, when combined. If the deficit ampere hours (from the Link monitor) is say, - 80 Ah, I would set a timer and run the generator for 90 minutes. After 90 minutes of charging, if the charge rate has dropped below 20 Amperes, I shut the generator down. If I need to run the water-maker or washing machine, I will then run the smaller (30 Ampere capacity) battery charger, at the same time, to "top-up" the batteries. Otherwise, we do not even try to reach 3 to 5 amperes trickle charging from the generator.

Hope this helps,
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug
www.sv-doodlebug.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango

WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
 

If you dont like that boat I have a nice Maramu for sale in the New York City area at a reasonable price.

----- Original Message -----
From: gvolos
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:35 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mango


Hi everyone
I'm off next week to view a 1982 Mango for sale in France. Any tips on
what to look for? Weak points? Any info on these boats would be really
helpfull. Perhaps some of you would be willing to share your thoughts
with me.
Happy sailing!


Re: Darn Batteries

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello group,

I own SM#266. About six months ago I talked with the Amel factory
and discussed my battery / charger problems. They assured me that
I
needed to replace my current batteries. I did that in St. Maartin,
new wet cells. Same problem as before. We sailed to Guadaloupe
and
talked to Amel there. We were directed to Pouchon. The man at
Pouchon said that our battery charger (Nemo 50) was defective. I
told him to fix it, he said no, it was too old (1999) there were no
parts. He sold me and installed a new Dolphin 100 amp. charger.
New
batteries, new charger same old problem.

Problem;

Charger works fine, charges batteries to 27.3 volts and then
quits.
I just talked to Rolls Batteries, and they said I needed to be able
to charge to 28.4 to prevent "deficet charging" and to 31 volts to
de-
sulfate the batteries.

The batteries show 100% charge (Mastervolt) and 27.3 volts and will
stay like that with the charger going for as long as I leave it.
As
soon as the charger is off line the voltage drops to 25.6 and
starts
dropping until I charge the batteries again. Currently I must run
the generator two to three times a day to keep up with the demand.

When using the main engine and 80 amp 24 volt alternator, the same
things happens, the charge stops at 27.3 volts and about 3 - 5
aamps.

Question: Is there an Amel voltage regulator that gets both the
charger and alternator current? Where is it? Can it be adjusted?
I
have talked with Denis at Dolphin and it does not seem that my
charger has mulitple programs, so I can not use it to "equalize" my
batteries.

Any comments?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


Darn Batteries

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello group,

I own SM#266. About six months ago I talked with the Amel factory
and discussed my battery / charger problems. They assured me that I
needed to replace my current batteries. I did that in St. Maartin,
new wet cells. Same problem as before. We sailed to Guadaloupe and
talked to Amel there. We were directed to Pouchon. The man at
Pouchon said that our battery charger (Nemo 50) was defective. I
told him to fix it, he said no, it was too old (1999) there were no
parts. He sold me and installed a new Dolphin 100 amp. charger. New
batteries, new charger same old problem.

Problem;

Charger works fine, charges batteries to 27.3 volts and then quits.
I just talked to Rolls Batteries, and they said I needed to be able
to charge to 28.4 to prevent "deficet charging" and to 31 volts to de-
sulfate the batteries.

The batteries show 100% charge (Mastervolt) and 27.3 volts and will
stay like that with the charger going for as long as I leave it. As
soon as the charger is off line the voltage drops to 25.6 and starts
dropping until I charge the batteries again. Currently I must run
the generator two to three times a day to keep up with the demand.

When using the main engine and 80 amp 24 volt alternator, the same
things happens, the charge stops at 27.3 volts and about 3 - 5 aamps.

Question: Is there an Amel voltage regulator that gets both the
charger and alternator current? Where is it? Can it be adjusted? I
have talked with Denis at Dolphin and it does not seem that my
charger has mulitple programs, so I can not use it to "equalize" my
batteries.

Any comments?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


Mango

George Volos
 

Hi everyone
I'm off next week to view a 1982 Mango for sale in France. Any tips on
what to look for? Weak points? Any info on these boats would be really
helpfull. Perhaps some of you would be willing to share your thoughts
with me.
Happy sailing!


Message sending

George Volos
 

Dear Sir,
I would like to have the option of posting messages on this group.
Thank you very much.


George Volos
Athens Greece


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Water Slapping Noise

wgehrich <gdehrich@...>
 

There's a slap silencer on a N/M 43 here in South Florida. I asked
the owner about it and he swears by it; he's been using it for years.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Peacock <peacock@...>
wrote:

Hi Pat,

That's a problem with most every reverse transom boat; there is a
product called Slap Silencer which claims to reduce the noise
level;
it's a piece of canvas that you attach when you're in dock, and
remove when you sail. I have no personal experience with it, but
almost bought one for my previous boat, which was much noisier
than a
SM.

Tom
Aletes SM#240

On Mar 4, 2007, at 8:46 PM, sailw32 wrote:

Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the slapping noise
created
when water hits the hull of the aft cabin. It can be quite noisy
and I
am considering insulating the aft section inside the hull. Has
anyone
insulated this section and did it have any effect on noise
reduction?

Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Water Slapping Noise

Thomas Peacock <peacock@...>
 

Hi Pat,

That's a problem with most every reverse transom boat; there is a
product called Slap Silencer which claims to reduce the noise level;
it's a piece of canvas that you attach when you're in dock, and
remove when you sail. I have no personal experience with it, but
almost bought one for my previous boat, which was much noisier than a
SM.

Tom
Aletes SM#240

On Mar 4, 2007, at 8:46 PM, sailw32 wrote:

Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the slapping noise created
when water hits the hull of the aft cabin. It can be quite noisy and I
am considering insulating the aft section inside the hull. Has anyone
insulated this section and did it have any effect on noise reduction?

Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123



Aft Cabin Water Slapping Noise

Patrick McAneny
 

Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the slapping noise created
when water hits the hull of the aft cabin. It can be quite noisy and I
am considering insulating the aft section inside the hull. Has anyone
insulated this section and did it have any effect on noise reduction?

Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123


rating

brgdebakker
 

Hello,

I'm curious to know if anyone knows the IRC rating or any other race
rating for an Amel Kirk. I'm planning on joining a racing circuit in
the Netherlands.

Kind regards,

Bart de Bakker, Amel Kirk 146 Folie à Deux


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Peter, i agree with Ed about the Fortress anchor. He has the large one that can be used as a primary anchor. I got only a 10 lb. one as i only use it as a stern anchor to swing the stern around in rolly anchorages. I have 3 primary anchors in the bow, but i sure don't want to set them or try to retrive them from a dinghy. Also buy or make a cavass bag to hold the anchor in, along with about 10 feet of chain. You can put the anchor together in 5 minutes. 7/16 or 1/2 inch line is all i use. we're leaving Panama next week. My wife went to a 3 week school in Antiigua, Guatemala to learn spanish. She loved it. Life should be much easier now. John "Moondog" SM 248


From: "pjppappas" <pjppappas@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:10:37 -0000

Does anyone have a recommedation for ground tackle to serve as a stern
anchor for a super maramu 2000. thank you peter pappas "Callisto" #369
Peurto Vallata, Mexico
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

gwollenberg <gary@...>
 

Has anybody tried the Bull Anchor? See the following web site
http://www.noteco.com/Anchor-Home.html

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Steele" <edmundsteele@...>
wrote:

We have had good luck with a Fortress FX-55 on mixed rode with 10
meters of chain. The FX-55 is light enough to deploy and retrieve from
a dinghy if necessary, although a tripping line is highly recommended.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug (SM#331)
www.sv-doodlebug.com



Re: STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

gwollenberg <gary@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Steele" <edmundsteele@...>
wrote:

We have had good luck with a Fortress FX-55 on mixed rode with 10
meters of chain. The FX-55 is light enough to deploy and retrieve from
a dinghy if necessary, although a tripping line is highly recommended.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug (SM#331)
www.sv-doodlebug.com

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

edmund_steele
 

We have had good luck with a Fortress FX-55 on mixed rode with 10 meters of chain. The FX-55 is light enough to deploy and retrieve from a dinghy if necessary, although a tripping line is highly recommended.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug (SM#331)
www.sv-doodlebug.com


STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Does anyone have a recommedation for ground tackle to serve as a stern
anchor for a super maramu 2000. thank you peter pappas "Callisto" #369
Peurto Vallata, Mexico