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new owner

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

well,
just got back from La R and saw the new kimberlite almost finished.
i had a wonderful time with Jean-Jacques including a fabulous lunch.
My thanks to all my friends at amel.

they have made a few changes since i saw the boat with Joel. there
is now a shelf at the top of the wet locker and a shelf across the
top of the nav station just below the code marin board.
they also now have 13 batteries in the battery locker. i am sure
they changed many more things that i didn't notice. they also did a
beautiful job fitting my weather fax on the shelf to starboard of
the companionway.

speak to you all soon
eric freedman- kimberlite sm#376


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sharki Battery Re-fit

naticual <no_reply@...>
 

Yes under the battery switch actual forward towards the bow. I
glassed a support into the stringer and removed the insulation to
located battery box next to bulkhead. I look forward to your report
on running the new propane line. How did you mount the bottles in the
back locker? Have you found a solution to the rub rail oxidization
problem?

Fairwinds

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., wbs9971@a... wrote:
Thanks for the response. I assume you installed the Optima
starting battery
in the engine room under the selector switch. As for the propane
line, we
are going to run the line sometime next week. I'll let you know
how we route
it. I am going to move the solenoid shut-off valve to the aft
locker also
for safety reasons.

...Tom


Re: Lightning

pagandaisy <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "sv_red_red_wine" <sv_red_red_wine@y...>
wrote:
Has any one out there with a Maramu been hit with lightning, We
have
all heard Joel's answer... but what happens when the boat is hit.
Paul and Helen Camp

My Maramu was struck by lightening some years ago. The VHF antenna
vanished. The charge went through the fuses, cooked the VHF radio,
radar (it was smoking) and other electronics that were on and then
silvered the fuses. Lights on below: cooked. A friend was at the
wheel (fortunately covered in leather). His hair stood on end.
Fortunately neither the engine nor seacocks were affected. Seeing
the storm coming I took in the sails and dropped a copper plate
attached to a chain overboard, wrapping the chain around the mast. I
don't believe it had any purposeful effect. Subsequently I read
everything available and checked all the advertised protective
devices, had conversations with so called experts. Over the years
I've spoken to a dozen people who have been struck. My conclusion: I
was lucky. My advice: disconnect all electronics, if possible
unplug them. At the very least disconnect at the circuit breakers.
If possible shut down your engine. Put your battery switches on
disconnect. Hang a copper plate overboard via a chain rather than a
wire. Who knows, maybe mine helped. If your wheel's not insulated,
do so. Need I say get as far away from the mast(s) and rigging as
possible. If I were building a boat from scratch I'd seriously
consider using Marlon seacocks.

I suspect that Amel's stepping the mast on the deck, and the chain
plates not being connected to the keel kept significant current from
getting to the seacocks and engine. Just a guess. Fortunately there
are not as many thunder ststorms in the Caribbean as in Long Island
Sound and the Chesapeake. If anyone out there has any useful
suggestions I'd be happy to learn them.

Arnold Grubin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sharki Battery Re-fit

wbs9971@...
 

Thanks for the response. I assume you installed the Optima starting battery
in the engine room under the selector switch. As for the propane line, we
are going to run the line sometime next week. I'll let you know how we route
it. I am going to move the solenoid shut-off valve to the aft locker also
for safety reasons.

...Tom


Re: Sharki Battery Re-fit

naticual <no_reply@...>
 

I have 4 Trojan T125 6 volt installed the orginall battery box. I
insatlled a new box for an Optima starting battery on the starboard
side under the batter selcetor swith. I glassed in a support. The
Optima 800 battery spins the 4108 over with no problem. I can send a
photograph if you need one. I am going to relocate my propane tanks
to the same locker have you given any thoughts on how to run the
propane line?


-- In amelyachtowners@y..., "wbs9971" <wbs9971@a...> wrote:
I am the owner of Kiwi, Sharki #91. I am planning to install 4 6
volt "golf cart" batteries in the battery box and moving the engine
start battery somewhere else. This would double my reserve amps.
Does anyone have any suggestions or comments? Any suggestions on
the
location of the engine start battery. I'm looking at the Optima
800u.

I also need more propane and am considering running a propane hose
to
the locker on the rear deck. It's vented overbord and can hold at
least four "tall" format tanks. I already have two back there for
the grill. Any ideas will be appreciated.

...Tom Bennett


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu 2000 Dodgers

Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
 

Thank you for the suggestion. I want something more
substantial however. Perhaps it is the fact that I
sail in cold seas as well as warm. Thanks again.
Claude Roessiger
--- hollambyuk <hollamby@compuserve.com> wrote:
Since 1989 we have lived and cruised as far as
Australia in our old
boat,an Oyster 435 from which we switched Bali Hai
No 319 early last
year,this was a vast improvement over the slow leaky
Oyster. Since
then we have sailed to the Med and been in a force
10 storm with no
problems.
We have no problems with the windscreen design.A
piece of wood one
inch by two inches by six will prop the window open
as required.
So far as the bimini top is concerned Amel
retrofitted (welded) clear
panels in the front and centre sections of the
Vynil.If we had known
this would have been a free or low cost item but
there is a lot of
time involved in taking the frame off.We then made
up a white plastic
patch which is attached to the underside with Velcro
so that it can
be removed as necessary. It works very well.



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Lightning

sv_red_red_wine <sv_red_red_wine@...>
 

Has any one out there with a Maramu been hit with lightning, We have
all heard Joel's answer... but what happens when the boat is hit.
Paul and Helen Camp


Sharki Battery Re-fit

wbs9971 <wbs9971@...>
 

I am the owner of Kiwi, Sharki #91. I am planning to install 4 6
volt "golf cart" batteries in the battery box and moving the engine
start battery somewhere else. This would double my reserve amps.
Does anyone have any suggestions or comments? Any suggestions on the
location of the engine start battery. I'm looking at the Optima 800u.

I also need more propane and am considering running a propane hose to
the locker on the rear deck. It's vented overbord and can hold at
least four "tall" format tanks. I already have two back there for
the grill. Any ideas will be appreciated.

...Tom Bennett


Super Maramu 2000 Dodgers

hollambyuk <hollamby@...>
 

Since 1989 we have lived and cruised as far as Australia in our old
boat,an Oyster 435 from which we switched Bali Hai No 319 early last
year,this was a vast improvement over the slow leaky Oyster. Since
then we have sailed to the Med and been in a force 10 storm with no
problems.
We have no problems with the windscreen design.A piece of wood one
inch by two inches by six will prop the window open as required.
So far as the bimini top is concerned Amel retrofitted (welded) clear
panels in the front and centre sections of the Vynil.If we had known
this would have been a free or low cost item but there is a lot of
time involved in taking the frame off.We then made up a white plastic
patch which is attached to the underside with Velcro so that it can
be removed as necessary. It works very well.


SuperMaramu dodger

nearlynothing <nearlynothing@...>
 

I dislike the SuperMaramu dodger. The old Maramu dodger, though truly
ugly, was far superior. My points of criticism are: 1. durability and
strength 2. Window cannot be opened from cockpit, can't be used open
under sail (spray), can't be partially opened, opening system poor at
best 3. Cannot see mainsail with dodger extended and flexible window
difficult to install "leakproof" 4. Always sail dodger extended on
the open sea for weather or sun or spray protection 5. Cannot stand
on top of dodger (as old Maramu) to access boom and main 6.
Ventilation for aforementioned window problem is awful in the tropics
etc. Bottom line: I think we could design a very superior, high
quality, ATTRACTIVE and FUNCTIONAL fixed dodger for this superb boat;
it deserves far better than it has in this department. I propose to
work with Lyman-Morse in Maine, a builder and maintenance facility of
top credentials to either mold in GRP or fabricate a new dodger. It
will meet all the needs. Interested? Let's join together. I intend 3
windscreen windows, one progressively openable from the helm,
windshield wiper, 3 flush hatches (sun shaded) for view/ventilation
in the roof, attachability of a canvas cockpit cover extension, side
windows, etc. Specific attention to an aesthetic solution which will
complement/enhance the boat. Contact me.


To John Martin re SM

Sue Dyer <sdyerjump@...>
 

Hello John,

Saw your post that you're looking for a used SM and wanted to let you know there's a great looking one in your area (Chesapeake). She's a 1999 and we'd buy her if we could but the timing is not quite right for us. Contact Marty Ward at Interyacht in Annapolis. Her number is 410/269-5200 or 410/280-2600. We worked with Marty and she was most helpful. Best of luck...keep us posted on how it goes.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dockwise vessel shipping service

John Martin <jjmartin24@...>
 

Hello

I am a delivery skipper (based in Virginia) and am actively seeking to buy a used Super Maramu. I joined the Yahoo Amel Owners Group as it seemed a very good way to learn more about them and network with other owners.

I have never actually used the Dockwise transportation service but have spoken to them regarding shipping of a 50 foot sailboat for a client. The Dockwise people seem very professional and responsive. I normally do the deliveries myself "on their own bottoms" but this particular client wanted to get his yacht from St. Vincent all the way to Thailand and we agreed that for such a long trip (11,000 miles) shipping the yacht made more sense than a delivery skipper and crew. However, since Dockwise doesn't go all the way to the Far East, we will use another shipping line for the Thailand delivery.

Regarding your need to move your boat form Mexico to Florida, if you would be interested in a delivery captain & crew for this trip, I would be personally very interested in discussing it with you. It would be a good opportunity for me to get more personal experience with the Amels, their sailing characteristics, systems and designs. I would consider offering a very competetive, minimal cost delivery estimate if you would be interested.

I have owned my own sailboat for almost thirty years, have a 50 ton Coast Guard License, have extensive racing and ocean cruising experience, including a circumnavigation. I've enclosed my resume that gives more details.

Regards

John Martin

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interested in your experience/comments good or bad. We are thinking
of shipping our Maramu from Mexico to Florida and would appreciate
any feedback.


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dockwise vessel shipping service

circe33946
 

Has anyone used the yacht transport service "Dockwise"? We would be
interested in your experience/comments good or bad. We are thinking
of shipping our Maramu from Mexico to Florida and would appreciate
any feedback.


Re: Maintaining faux teak decks

sv_alchemy <no_reply@...>
 

Vito -

We have been using a product by Aurora Marine - www.auroramarine.com -
called "Sure Step" for the non-skid areas of our Sharki with good
results. It contains a polymer they call "Skid -X" which seals the
surface preventing oxidation without reducing the nonskid effect like
wax would. It lasts about 6 mos.


Maintaining faux teak decks

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

I would like some input as to how to maintain the looks of the faux
teak decks without ruining the non skid. They are a little chalky
looking. I believe this is the result of being waxed and the not
being waxed for the winter. Do I use a light compound and remove the
old wax and leave them that way or do I apply a coat of caranuba?

Thank

Vito
ASM283
Wanderer


Re: Fitting A Wind Generator To The Mizzen Mast

tabnchuck
 

Ian,
Thanks ever so much for the helpful post. We are taking delivery
December 9 this year and had anticipated adding the Air Marine when
it was suddenly dropped from the options list. Your experience may
have been the reason for the change, as we all know how evolutionary
the SM concept is. The engineering you had to overcome is
impressive, but I hope applicable. Perhaps we may see the Air Marine
offered again but with a purpose-built masthead fitting for the
mizzen. We, too, are concerned about the SM's casual attitude with
KwH and were recently gifted with a custom rigging-hung generator.
It'll be interesting to see how this works out. The unit was
originally set up to put out 110V so it could be plugged in directly
to a (US) boat's power inlet. We'll need a transformer to allow us
to do the same with the Amel. Looking forward to your next post!
Regards,

Chuck Luecker

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., closereach <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Having lived on board my Super Maramu 2000 (299) the past 22
months,
mostly on the hook, and sailed 21,000+ nms, I decided to
investigate
putting a wind generator on the top of my mizzen mast. There are
not
ANY wind generators that will supply all the SM's electrical needs,
and research showed that the only two makes that would make any
significant contribution were the Air Marine 403 and the Kiss.
However, weight is a factor, and I chose the Air Marine 403 which
is
half the weight of the Kiss.

Because I did not wish to get the mizzen staysail halyard tangled
in
the blades, I decided to mount it on the very top of the mizzen
mast,
where it would be out of the way. Amel kindly supplied me with a
copy
of the mast top blueprint, and I had a stainless plate made up that
matches the mast top plate, and welded the support post to it with
suitable bracing. Note that if you wish to replace your mizzen
halyard with the wind generator in place, you will have to cut a
slot
in the plate to allow access to the sheaves.

The 403 worked well up there, even down wind, but the vibration
from
the unit caused an unbearable resonance in the mast, which made the
generators use at night, and even at certain RPM's during the day,
impossible to live with. However, after some 6 months of trying
various cures, I have come up with a solution that works well.

I discovered a company in England called AVA Limited that
specialize
in anti vibration mounts. Yes there are many on the market that
consist of a rubber block with a stud bonded to each end, but these
would not be suitable in case of failure. The AVA mounts are fail
safe as they have a bolt through the entire assembly. They are made
of die cast aluminium, so they do need spraying with zinc chromate
primer then a good quality marine paint before use. Also they have
a
two bolt flange bottom fitting which would make them difficult to
fit
to the area of the mast top flange that protrudes outside the
profile
of the mast.

I got around this by making up 4 aluminium pieces of 1/4" bar that
were tapped with three holes. Two holes take the short fixing bolts
from the bottom flange of each vibration mount, and into the centre
tapped hole I screwed down a bolt that would attach the whole unit
to
the mizzen mast flange. To make matters even better, I put a strip
of
1/4" rubber under each bar before bolting the vibration dampers
down,
sleeved the 10mm bolts with fuel tubing where they pass through the
bottom plate, and put a further piece of rubber under the washes of
the 4 bolts that attach the dampers. All bolts were locked with
Locktite 270 locking compound.

The wind generator is now never switched off, and is hardly
noticeable under sail at all, and makes but a faint singing noise
in
the aft cabin at night. I would point out though that Air Marine
are
again testing their Air-X model which will be considerably smoother
and quieter in operation. After much dialogue with Air Marine, they
have asked me to test an Air-X on my mizzen top. From what I have
seen so far, the new model will be worth waiting for. There are
some
RFI problems to be sorted out before I get the test model, but it
should not be long now. They have gone away from using blade
flexing
to limit the turbine's speed, and are now using more rigid and
quieter blades.

Of course, one wind generator will not solve the Super Maramu's
thirst for electrons! I have also fitted 2 Solarex 120W 24V solar
panels to the side rails just aft of the genoa car adjusters. The
combination of all three works well. Under sail in sunlight, I need
an apparent wind of 15 knots to equal the electrical demand, and at
night 24 knots (radar on). In the tropics, I now only need to run
the
generator once a day, usually in the evening. My only regret now is
that having such reduced generator time, I should have bought a
bigger capacity water maker!

I did leave Crusader in the Bahamas for 2 weeks on the anchor with
the freezer running but the fridge switched off, and returned to
find
the batteries fully charged. It's this freedom to leave the boat
for
sight seeing and visits home that got me interested in an
alternative
power supply.

AVA Ltd can be found at:

Unit 1, Monkton Park, Farnham Trading Estate, Farnham, Surrey, GU9
9PA, England
Tel: 01252-733040 Fax: 01252-722958

What you need are 4 x AL30 Specials-25NAT M10 Core Price 9.56
GB
Pounds each.

They are specials in that the top fixing bolt size is increased to
10mm as the original bolts on the AL30 units were a bit on the
light
side for the application.

Modifications to the bow thruster, hot water system, anchor wash
and
speaker systems will follow when I get a moment!

Good sailing

Ian Shepherd

Amel Super Maramu 2000 # 299 "Crusader"

Web Site www.bayc.org.uk/crusader
Email g4ljf@w...


1985 Sharki for sale

closereach <no_reply@...>
 

Amel Sharki 1985 for sale. Located in Florida. Call or email for
details.
Rich
321-773-8334
closereach@yahoo.com


Fitting A Wind Generator To The Mizzen Mast

closereach <no_reply@...>
 

Having lived on board my Super Maramu 2000 (299) the past 22 months,
mostly on the hook, and sailed 21,000+ nms, I decided to investigate
putting a wind generator on the top of my mizzen mast. There are not
ANY wind generators that will supply all the SM's electrical needs,
and research showed that the only two makes that would make any
significant contribution were the Air Marine 403 and the Kiss.
However, weight is a factor, and I chose the Air Marine 403 which is
half the weight of the Kiss.

Because I did not wish to get the mizzen staysail halyard tangled in
the blades, I decided to mount it on the very top of the mizzen mast,
where it would be out of the way. Amel kindly supplied me with a copy
of the mast top blueprint, and I had a stainless plate made up that
matches the mast top plate, and welded the support post to it with
suitable bracing. Note that if you wish to replace your mizzen
halyard with the wind generator in place, you will have to cut a slot
in the plate to allow access to the sheaves.

The 403 worked well up there, even down wind, but the vibration from
the unit caused an unbearable resonance in the mast, which made the
generators use at night, and even at certain RPM's during the day,
impossible to live with. However, after some 6 months of trying
various cures, I have come up with a solution that works well.

I discovered a company in England called AVA Limited that specialize
in anti vibration mounts. Yes there are many on the market that
consist of a rubber block with a stud bonded to each end, but these
would not be suitable in case of failure. The AVA mounts are fail
safe as they have a bolt through the entire assembly. They are made
of die cast aluminium, so they do need spraying with zinc chromate
primer then a good quality marine paint before use. Also they have a
two bolt flange bottom fitting which would make them difficult to fit
to the area of the mast top flange that protrudes outside the profile
of the mast.

I got around this by making up 4 aluminium pieces of 1/4" bar that
were tapped with three holes. Two holes take the short fixing bolts
from the bottom flange of each vibration mount, and into the centre
tapped hole I screwed down a bolt that would attach the whole unit to
the mizzen mast flange. To make matters even better, I put a strip of
1/4" rubber under each bar before bolting the vibration dampers down,
sleeved the 10mm bolts with fuel tubing where they pass through the
bottom plate, and put a further piece of rubber under the washes of
the 4 bolts that attach the dampers. All bolts were locked with
Locktite 270 locking compound.

The wind generator is now never switched off, and is hardly
noticeable under sail at all, and makes but a faint singing noise in
the aft cabin at night. I would point out though that Air Marine are
again testing their Air-X model which will be considerably smoother
and quieter in operation. After much dialogue with Air Marine, they
have asked me to test an Air-X on my mizzen top. From what I have
seen so far, the new model will be worth waiting for. There are some
RFI problems to be sorted out before I get the test model, but it
should not be long now. They have gone away from using blade flexing
to limit the turbine's speed, and are now using more rigid and
quieter blades.

Of course, one wind generator will not solve the Super Maramu's
thirst for electrons! I have also fitted 2 Solarex 120W 24V solar
panels to the side rails just aft of the genoa car adjusters. The
combination of all three works well. Under sail in sunlight, I need
an apparent wind of 15 knots to equal the electrical demand, and at
night 24 knots (radar on). In the tropics, I now only need to run the
generator once a day, usually in the evening. My only regret now is
that having such reduced generator time, I should have bought a
bigger capacity water maker!

I did leave Crusader in the Bahamas for 2 weeks on the anchor with
the freezer running but the fridge switched off, and returned to find
the batteries fully charged. It's this freedom to leave the boat for
sight seeing and visits home that got me interested in an alternative
power supply.

AVA Ltd can be found at:

Unit 1, Monkton Park, Farnham Trading Estate, Farnham, Surrey, GU9
9PA, England
Tel: 01252-733040 Fax: 01252-722958

What you need are 4 x AL30 Specials-25NAT M10 Core Price 9.56 GB
Pounds each.

They are specials in that the top fixing bolt size is increased to
10mm as the original bolts on the AL30 units were a bit on the light
side for the application.

Modifications to the bow thruster, hot water system, anchor wash and
speaker systems will follow when I get a moment!

Good sailing

Ian Shepherd

Amel Super Maramu 2000 # 299 "Crusader"

Web Site www.bayc.org.uk/crusader
Email g4ljf@winlink.org


Re: Power consumption

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "Sue Dyer" <sdyerjump@i...> wrote:
Hello to all. We are new to the group and are looking for
information from current Amel SM owners and would appreciate any input
you may have.

1)Since the Amel depends heavily on electronics we'd like to know
long the generator and/or engine must be run daily especially at
anchor. We know that will vary depending upon how one lives however a
general idea would be helpful.

2)Also, if anyone owns a SM Millennium have there been any
improvements in the watermaker...is it still somewhat problematic?

3)Any circumnavigators or transoceanic voyagers out there? Would
love to talk with you.

Blue skies and fair winds
Hi Sue: My name Is Gary Silver. We purchased hull number 335 July
2001. Within 10 days of starting our owners schooling my family and
I set sail from La Rochelle to La Carunia Spain, thence down the coast
of Spain and Portugal and ended up in Lanzarote in the Canary Islands.
We left the boat in a marina there for 3 months then went back and my
family and I sailed it across the Atlantic to Guadelopue. Our
transatlantic took 21 days due to SW winds for the first 5 days. We
used the auto pilot heavily and with 6 people aboard also taxed other
electronics. We ususally had to charge batteries for 2 hours each
morning (during which time we made water) and one hour each evening. I
try to never let the batteries get below 65 percent. We only had to
make water about every other day. Joel's statement about not having
to worry about having enough water is true. We have bacome somewhat
profligate in our use of fresh water aboard. We haven't had a bit of
trouble with the water maker. It still puts out 150 to 160 liters per
hour. We flush the membrane with fresh water for 2 minutes after each
use (using the valve Amel provides) and we pickel the thing any time
we leave the boat for more than a week. I have heard various claims
about only needing to pickel it if left un-used for several months but
I am conservative and hope to not have problems. One thing Joel just
warned me about is not flusing it with marina water (chlorine can
evidently damage the membranes). He suggested using a in line
charchoal hose filter when filling the tank from a marina hose.
We just spent 10 days cruising Guadeloupe and we would run the gen
set much less than on the transatlantic because we had fewer people,
didn't run the radar as much becasue we anchored at night, and also
powered down the navigation instruments etc at night. We did run the
genset to cool off the cabin with the AC for several hours at night at
times and would actually do most of our charing then as well. I got
the 12 fan outlet-6 fan option and I am going to add 4 more fans for
the tropical cruising. It is nice to have a fan at easy reach. One
thing I would like (and am considering doing) is adding a fan in each
head. The AC doesn't quite reach in there and my wife likes to apply
her makeup and do her hair in the head. Plus it get steamy in there
right after a hot shower etc. Hope this is useful. Sincerely, Gary
Silver


Wanting to buy a Super Maramu

David Crisp
 

Hi,

I am wanting to buy a used Amel Super Maramu, age of +/-1998-1992.

Location is not too important although my preference would be in the
Mediterranean so that I can make a crossing of the Atlantic this
November in order to cruise the Caribbean (this is only a preference,
not a requirement).

If you are thinking of selling please let me know or if you know of
anyone else.......

Thanks,
David