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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

karkauai
 

Hi Pat.  No, it is a disc the same thickness as the Vetus coupling, with holes drilled for the bolts.  The disc is installed just as the Vetus would be, and alignment performed with the disc in place.  Then the engine is moved back, the disc removed, and the Vetus reinstalled, moving the engine back to where it was when aligned properly with the disc.

Does that sound right?  Am I missing anything?

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jun 14, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent, I replaced my mounts last fall and all seems good , however I remember this solid coupling suggested as a means of assuring alignment . Could you describe it ? It would seem to me, that all you would need would be pipe milled to be the exact ID as the shaft's OD . The shafts would not be able to side into the pipe unless absolutely aligned . Is that basically what it is ?
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2016 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 
Hi Mike.
Did you know that Amel recommends (or did) using a solid coupling of the same dimensions as the Vetus flexible coupling? The engine is aligned using the solid coupling, 1/1000" tolerance. Then the solid coupling is removed and replaced with the Vetus coupling.

I had a solid coupling made at a machine shop in Puerto Rico out of aluminum.

On Kristy there is very little if any difference in vibration whether in neutral or in gear.

Hope that sheds a little more light.
Kent
SM 243
Currently Bonaire


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya Bilge Pump not pumping

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks again Bill.

So, Is my understanding from your reply correct that it would be normal for a hose full of water that is connected to the joker valve to drain slowly through the joker valve, if not connected and sealed 100%  to the pump? If so, then my issue may be the hose to pickup or hose to pump connection. 

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54 #099
B&B Kokomo 


Re: Hi Derick

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Hi Eric,

We left Sint Maarten yesterday with the last bridge opening, and are currently in St. Barts, looking for a weather window to sail down to Antigua.  I have a haulout date set on Friday morning the 17th, in Bailey's Boatyard in Falmouth Harbour, so I am afraid I missed you.  Kimberlite looks stellar!

Next year?

Fair winds,

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava


Re: Reya Bilge Pump not pumping

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Bill;

Thanks for the reply.

I also suspect the back flow intake. However wanted to be sure. Do you know if the backflow device should be able to hold the water in the hose with the pipe disconnected from the pump without any water leakage?

Also, where did you buy the back flow device from?

Thanks

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54 #099
B&B Kokomo 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya Bilge Pump not pumping

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Your answers are below the questions:

1. Is the backflow device 100% responsible for not letting the water drain out of the pump or does the pump need to be attached to the hose for the back flow device to work?
ANSWER: No. The Joker Valve in the strainer is mostly responsible, but if you have the slightest air leak in the pump or where the hose connects to the pump, it will drain. There are two forces at play in keeping the pump primed. Joker Valve physical closure which depends on water pressure against the valve, and suction. Lose one of these and it will drain. That hose is not expensive and neither is the Joker Valve inside the strainer. Id you have not replaced either in 4 years, replace them. Neither may be the cause, but they will be the easiest and cheapest in the process of elimination.

2. Since I could not get the pump to work even when the hose was held at pump height and filled with water, do you agree with my conclusion that the a new re-build kit needs to be installed?
ANSWER
Yes, but....Was the pump mechanically operating the diaphragm? A rebuild kit does not include the gear which appears to be made out of white plastic (actually Delrin). One or more of the teeth of this gear may be missing. I am told that SAV"at"Amel.fr has these. I know that Amel's service rep in Turkey has them. A warning: There are some cheaply made off-brand service kits on the market. Buy your service kit from SAV only to avoid any problems.

3. I know I had seen the instructions for installing the re-build kit on this forum but can't seem to find it. Can some one point me in the right direction or e-mail me the procedure/manual at
ANSWER
Go to the Yahoo Amel website. Click on PHOTOS. In the search box enter bilge. You will see some photos and an exploded view. Click on FILES and do the same thing.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

Our Reya Bilge pump (TIPO - MARINA) has stopped pumping. A new kit was installed about a year ago and it has worked fine other than losing prime a few times. I would have to remove the hose and intake from the bilge, fill the hose with water while the pump was running and as soon as it would prime I would put it back in and it would work fine. In the past month, I have had to do this several times.


I remember reading on the forum that the problem can be with the pipe getting old and not sealing properly and letting air back in. So I disconnected the hose and filled it with water with the back flow intake attached. Water slowly drains from the back flow intake and nothing comes out from around the hose.


My questions are:

1. Is the backflow device 100% responsible for not letting the water drain out of the pump or does the pump need to be attached to the hose for the back flow device to work?


2. Since I could not get the pump to work even when the hose was held at pump height and filled with water, do you agree with my conclusion that the a new re-build kit needs to be installed?


3. I know I had seen the instructions for installing the re-build kit on this forum but can't seem to find it. Can some one point me in the right direction or e-mail me the procedure/manual at mshirloo at transpacific dot us.


Thank you


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 how to chenge bow thruster oil

ya_fohi
 

Thanks Olivier. I have managed to change the oil from the top. In the process I found it useful to attach an air pump (used for the dinghy) to the top of the reservoir which greatly speeded up the process by forcing the old oil out and the new oil in.
Cheers,
Paul


Re: Reya Bilge Pump not pumping

william_maffei@...
 

Hey there -

If you are constantly having to prime your pump then there is an air leak somewhere in the line that needs to be addressed. I had the same problem when I did the re-build. I am almost certain (if done correctly) it is not necessary to re-build again. To solve my problem I replaced the one way value on the intake hose and added a hose clamp at the bottom NPT on the pump itself. Worked like a charm. 

Bill Maffei
It's all Good
SM #195


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, I replaced my mounts last fall and all seems good , however I remember this solid coupling suggested as a means of assuring alignment . Could you describe it ? It would seem to me, that all you would need would be pipe milled to be the exact ID as the shaft's OD . The shafts would not be able to side into the pipe unless absolutely aligned . Is that basically what it is ?
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2016 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts

 
Hi Mike.
Did you know that Amel recommends (or did) using a solid coupling of the same dimensions as the Vetus flexible coupling? The engine is aligned using the solid coupling, 1/1000" tolerance. Then the solid coupling is removed and replaced with the Vetus coupling.

I had a solid coupling made at a machine shop in Puerto Rico out of aluminum.

On Kristy there is very little if any difference in vibration whether in neutral or in gear.

Hope that sheds a little more light.
Kent
SM 243
Currently Bonaire


Reya Bilge Pump not pumping

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Our Reya Bilge pump (TIPO - MARINA) has stopped pumping. A new kit was installed about a year ago and it has worked fine other than losing prime a few times. I would have to remove the hose and intake from the bilge, fill the hose with water while the pump was running and as soon as it would prime I would put it back in and it would work fine. In the past month, I have had to do this several times.


I remember reading on the forum that the problem can be with the pipe getting old and not sealing properly and letting air back in. So I disconnected the hose and filled it with water with the back flow intake attached. Water slowly drains from the back flow intake and nothing comes out from around the hose.


My questions are:

1. Is the backflow device 100% responsible for not letting the water drain out of the pump or does the pump need to be attached to the hose for the back flow device to work?


2. Since I could not get the pump to work even when the hose was held at pump height and filled with water, do you agree with my conclusion that the a new re-build kit needs to be installed?


3. I know I had seen the instructions for installing the re-build kit on this forum but can't seem to find it. Can some one point me in the right direction or e-mail me the procedure/manual at mshirloo at transpacific dot us.


Thank you


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Marina for wintering Greece, Cyprus, and Sicily - haulouts

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks Bill for taking the time and putting together such a detailed e-mail. It will take time to review your recommendations and may come back with some questions.

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54 #099
B&B Kokomo 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Marina for wintering Greece

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Regarding Marina di Ragusa, several years ago several boats fell over on the hard.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jun 14, 2016 6:43 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Rink & Marloes;


Thanks for the suggestions. We'll check them out.

We will not be close to the boat, so our main concern is the lift quality, safety of the boat, conditions in storms, some one or a company to check on the boat and if it is a place that one can spend 2-3 weeks during the haul out and annual maintenance and have some areas to visit and explore, would be a plus.

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54
B&B Kokomo #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Marina for wintering Greece, Cyprus, and Sicily - haulouts

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mohammad,

This is a long email, but I will completely describe 3 options for you to consider.

After cruising the Greek Islands and zig-zagging from North to South to Crete, we stayed in Cyprus (Northern Cyprus) at Karpaz Gate Marina which is only a few years old. It is about a 400 mile sail from Cyprus and only about 50 miles West of Turkey. It worked out perfect for us because of the strong summer wind from the North. The marina manager is Deniz Akaltan deniza"at"karpazbay.com. Deniz loves Amels, especially Super Maramus. He was looking for a Santorin and may be an Amel owner. Email him for a marina berth quote and a haulout quote. The yard has a 350 ton travellift, and everything is very modern.

The next season we cruised Turkey and stayed in Fethiye at probably the most protected place there at Yacht Classic Hotel (www.yachtclassichotel.com). It is a boutique hotel that is one of the best in the eastern Med. It has a nice floating dock and is home base to The Moorings. They rent a few berths for the winter season. The rate is very reasonable (about 3000 euro/season). Email the owner, Banu, at info"at"yachtclassichotel.com  Banu is very particular about who she rents a berth to. You will need a reference. Use me (BeBe) in your email and let me know if I should email her. About half of her winter berths are Amels.

The next season was at Marina di Ragusa, Sicily Contact:
Porto Turistico Marina di Ragusa
Tel: + 39 0932.230301
Fax: +39 0932.239466
Email: info"at"ptmr.it
The winter rate here is less than 2,000 euro and the marina staff is very good and very attentive. The yard is very busy with Oysters because it is an Oyster authorized service location. The yard  at Marina di Ragusa quoted me twice as much as the yard Malta for a haulout to renew antifouling. In fact the yard at Ragusa gave me the highest quote of anyone in the world that I have approached. I reviewed all my other quotes with the Pietro Carnemolla, yard manager, and he just shrugged and offered nothing. If I were you and I did not own an Oyster, I would NOT do business with this yard, ever.  It is too small and has too much business from Oyster owners.
But, only 50 miles away you will find Manoel Island Boat Yard in Malta. Contact information:
Andrew Wilson - Commercial Manager
MIYY LTD | Manoel Island | Gzira | MALTA
(+356) 2133 4453/4   (+356) 2134 3900
awilson"at"yachtyard-malta.com |  www.yachtyard-malta.com
Email Andrew and tell him you have a sister boat to BeBe. Ask him for a quote. There is an Amel qualified rigger in Malta that we used for an inspection and another owner used for a re-rigging with a new ACMO kit. His name is Nicky Sammut.  nickysail"at"hotmail.com. He has worked on dozens of Amels including a 64 and 55. I can also recommend a surveyor for insurance renewal...his first experience on an Amel was BeBe...I trained him.
I had one of the best haulout in the world at this yard. The yard has about 6 specialty shops including dinghy and liferaft, woodworking, metal fabrication, tube shop, rope shop, and a ship's supply store where you can buy almost anything at competitive prices. The yard will arrange sail, canvass, polishing, and other subcontractors. I like this place a lot. The yard was originally a British Royal Navy refit yard for ships up to Frigate size. They still operate the 4 or 5 slipways that the Royal Navy installed. They use these for very large boats.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

Hi Rink & Marloes;

Thanks for the suggestions. We'll check them out.

We will not be close to the boat, so our main concern is the lift quality, safety of the boat, conditions in storms, some one or a company to check on the boat and if it is a place that one can spend 2-3 weeks during the haul out and annual maintenance and have some areas to visit and explore, would be a plus.

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54
B&B Kokomo #099


Batteries

karkauai
 

Hi all,
I have a question about batteries.
I just replaced my flooded lead acid batteries about a month ago. I have a 400 Ah bank and a Charles 60A smart charger.
When I first got the batteries, they lasted nearly 24 hours, When they neared 24V, I charged for about 2 1/2 hours until the charger was putting in less than 10 A. About two weeks ago they were only lasting 12 hours, with the voltage dropping to 24V after only 40 Ah of discharge. They charge back up within 1-1/2 hours.
I have checked all connections and all are tight and show no resistance. I have an electronic battery tester as recommended by Bill which shows all batteries with better than rated CCAs.
All batteries are showing the same voltage, but when I check the amperage going into each pair during charging, one pair is charging at an amp more than the other pairs.

I'm not sure how to interpret what is going on, but it seems to be acting like I have a much smaller Ah battery bank.

Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Outhaul rope problem

karkauai
 

Someone on this forum suggested using some contact cement spray on new outhaul line.  Worked a treat.  If your line is slick and slips in spite of adequate tension, try that.  After a few weeks the line weathers enough that it doesn't need re-spraying.  Be sure you put something behind the line so you don't get glue on everything.
Kent
SM243
Kristy 


On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:56 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,

The original Amel is Kevlar which is impossible to find. I bought a 10mm Kevlar from Amel Hyeres. About 110 euro. Amel La Rochelle supplies 12mm, but not Kevlar...something else. I think Hyeres has some old inventory.

BTW, you cannot cut the Kevlar core with a "hot rope cutter." You need a sharp knife.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jun 14, 2016 6:37 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Paul;


We have had this issue sometimes after we remove and re-install our sails. For us, it has mainly been the line tension on the outhaul. Typically a minor adjustment in the outhaul ( slight tightening) has resolved the issue. 

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54
B&B Kokomo #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Blue Sea AC Multimeter Installation

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks to both of you Gary & Bill,

To be on the safe side, I will call BlueSea to confirm.
Then will look for the appropriate fuse (which might need to wait until I rent a car).

Will post pictures of the whole installation to help others.

Sincerely, Alexandre


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On Mon, 6/13/16, amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Blue Sea AC Multimeter Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 13, 2016, 8:26 PM


 









Hi Alexandre, I can confirm that an extension on
the ammeter (torrid) wires will not be an issue. Do use a
twisted pair of wires to minimize RF noise being broadcast
(something already twisted or you can make your own twisted
pair). Not terribly critical the number of twists per inch
but just roughly match what is already there.  The AC on
the line you are measuring induces a small current in the
lines going to the meter.  I'm surprised that BlueSea
doesn't make a statement about line extension. They are
a very responsive company and I would bet a phone call to
their tech support would confirm this.  If you find out
anything to the contrary, please let us know.
This was one of the best upgrades I
made and we usually monitor watts to assure we aren't
overloading anything. The first one I bought lasted 6 mo and
the display failed. They replaced no questions
asked.
All the
best, Gary Silvers/v Liahona









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Outhaul rope problem

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

The original Amel is Kevlar which is impossible to find. I bought a 10mm Kevlar from Amel Hyeres. About 110 euro. Amel La Rochelle supplies 12mm, but not Kevlar...something else. I think Hyeres has some old inventory.

BTW, you cannot cut the Kevlar core with a "hot rope cutter." You need a sharp knife.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jun 14, 2016 6:37 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Paul;


We have had this issue sometimes after we remove and re-install our sails. For us, it has mainly been the line tension on the outhaul. Typically a minor adjustment in the outhaul ( slight tightening) has resolved the issue. 

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54
B&B Kokomo #099


Re: Marina for wintering Greece

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Rink & Marloes;

Thanks for the suggestions. We'll check them out.

We will not be close to the boat, so our main concern is the lift quality, safety of the boat, conditions in storms, some one or a company to check on the boat and if it is a place that one can spend 2-3 weeks during the haul out and annual maintenance and have some areas to visit and explore, would be a plus.

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54
B&B Kokomo #099


Re: Outhaul rope problem

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Paul;

We have had this issue sometimes after we remove and re-install our sails. For us, it has mainly been the line tension on the outhaul. Typically a minor adjustment in the outhaul ( slight tightening) has resolved the issue. 

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54
B&B Kokomo #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina for wintering Greece

Rink De Haan
 

Hello Mohammad and Aty,

It depends on what you need. If you want to winter on or near the boat the options are limited.
In Greece we were satisfied with:
- Lefkada Marina. Good quality and a nice lively town.
- Cleopatra Marina: only on land in winter, but not a nice place to stay.
- Leros Marina: good quality and good facilities for haul out. Nice Island, but not much options and quite desolate in winter.
- Aghios Nikolaos on Crete: nice place to stay. Not that good facilities, but okay for haul out and some basic maintenance. Good connections to rest of Greece and Europe.
In general I would say that experience with Amels in Greece is limited.


As an alternative you could stay in Turkey.

Best regards,

Rink & Marloes
SM2K #330 Razor's Edge
Currently in Pescara - Italy

2016-06-14 9:55 GMT+02:00 mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hello every one;


We are looking to winter somewhere in Greece for the 2016 season, probably from November 2016 to May 2017. We will be cruising the southern Aegean and possibly Crete. We have to haul out so we would need somewhere with reliable lifting capability. Availability of local services and supplies would be a plus. We will not be on board so would prefer to have a local person/company that can look after the boat and periodically turn on the engine, generator and other systems. Therefore we would prefer to be in the water.


I would appreciate recommendations for marinas you have used or have personal knowledge to be safe and reliable to winter in. Also I would like to hear pinions on pros and cons of leaving the boat in the water or on the hard. 


Thank you 


Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo 

Amel 54 #099



Re: Marina for wintering Greece

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi JP and Chantal;


Thanks for the quick reply.. It is nice to hear from you. I hope you are both doing well and enjoying the fruits of your hard labor to get Eluthera in top cruising condition.

As you said, a bit farther than we were considering, but we will definitely look into it. After all, we are all here to sail and a farther location gives us an excuse to sail more.

Hopefully we'll hookup somewhere along the way.

Mohammad  and Aty