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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Outhaul rope problem
Thank you all, will start with the contact cement looks as a cost efficient solution.
I have tension the line a few times now, so when no tension from sail I can almost play a tune on it, but when closed hauled it creep and lose tension Paul on SYKerpa SM 259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries - What type house batteries to use & what voltage charge from Solar/Wind?
Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
Kent,
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I’ll elaborate a bit on Bill R’s questions… The amount of water you are adding to your batteries is above normal. Water does not leave a battery by evaporation, no matter how hot it is in the Caribbean! It leaves by being converted to hydrogen gas during the charging process. The amount of water your batteries are using would lead me (and Bill R. to guess your batteries are being overcharged. Do all the individual batteries take the same amount of water? Do you know what the acceptance and float voltages are for your charging system? How are your solar panels controlled? Bill Kinney SM#160 Harmonie
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi Kent, Did you check the water level in the batteries? In the warm areas I always have to add a lot of water to the batteries. These “worry free” batteries are a myth—they need water in my case. Even though they are supposed to be sealed all the ones I have purchased over the years can be opened up. You might have to cut a label. If the plates are above the water the battery is usually finished. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:36 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries
Hi all,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
rossienio@...
Thank you once again. Beat with a hammer on the shaft tube, while the tool is pulling,can help the detachment of the rust, or risk of damage the same tube? I'm working but does not seems to go down..........
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries - What type house batteries to use & what voltage charge from Solar/Wind?
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Kent, Is the charger switched to match the charging characteristics of your batteries? Didn't you switch the type of batteries and the charger? Has a qualified person checked the charging characteristics...and, did he determine that the charger is actually outputting the correct charging characteristics? Bill Rouse Kent, Did you get sealed batteries? If not, have you checked the fluid levels? I just replaced my batteries with 12 Trojan SCS200 batteries (115AH) in January in Martinique. Unlike my previous sealed batteries, I am able to/need to open the vents and add distilled water. I found that even when new, water needed to be added to several of the cells. In the last 5 months, I have checked the fluid levels twice and have added a total of about 2 gallons of distilled water! The Caribbean is one hot place!! I also have an indoor/outdoor thermometer installed in the battery compartment to monitor the temperature when the batteries are charging (thanks for the suggestion Bill Rouse). The battery compartment usually stays a couple of degrees above ambient. I will check them one more time before putting Brava up on the hard for hurricane season, leaving the solar power on to keep them topped up i
n voltage but with only the freshwater pump and the bilge pump left in the on position. The former will rinse the Dessalator membranes once a week for three minutes with fresh water from the tank. It seems early in the life of your batteries to have to desulfate them, but maybe that would be worth a try. Derick SM2K#400 Brava
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Reya Bilge Pump not pumping
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Mohammad, That is a difficult question to answer other than it might hold water for a period of time when the Joker Valve is new, but without the suction, I believe it will leak dry. That said, when the marina pump is at 100% condition with a new diaphragm and new flapper valves, it doesn't need the hose to be filled and will lift from the bottom of the gray water tank. Remove the Joker Valve and take it to most any marine supply store. These Joker Valves are used in several marine applications including toilets. If the store you go to doesn't have any, they can probably either order it, or tell you where to go. I would but two. You may be forced to buy the complete strainer with a Joker Valve included...but I think you can find just the valve. When installing the repair kit for this pump, take care that the diaphragm will be marked "water side." If you reverse it, you will have problems. I always lubricate the edges of the diaphragm with Silicone grease. You buy silicone grease fir O rings at a dive shop. I use silicone grease on all O rings and all hose connections. Also, a Warning: I broke teeth off of the white gear when I tested the pump while partially disassembled. Some people would accuse me of shoddy work if I were a yard service worker and demand that I pay for it. Mistakes happen. So , if you do as I did and test this pump, make sure that the diaphragm pump arm does not cime Lise and bind on the frame of the pump...it will break teeth off that white gear and you too could be accused of shoddy work and maybe a refusal to pay for the work. ;) Bill Rouse
On Jun 14, 2016 8:49 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Batteries - What type house batteries to use & what voltage charge from Solar/Wind?
Kent,
Did you get sealed batteries? If not, have you checked the fluid levels? I just replaced my batteries with 12 Trojan SCS200 batteries (115AH) in January in Martinique. Unlike my previous sealed batteries, I am able to/need to open the vents and add distilled water. I found that even when new, water needed to be added to several of the cells. In the last 5 months, I have checked the fluid levels twice and have added a total of about 2 gallons of distilled water! The Caribbean is one hot place!! I also have an indoor/outdoor thermometer installed in the battery compartment to monitor the temperature when the batteries are charging (thanks for the suggestion Bill Rouse). The battery compartment usually stays a couple of degrees above ambient. I will check them one more time before putting Brava up on the hard for hurricane season, leaving the solar power on to keep them topped up in voltage but with only the freshwater pump and the bilge pump left in the on position. The former will rinse the Dessalator membranes once a week for three minutes with fresh water from the tank. It seems early in the life of your batteries to have to desulfate them, but maybe that would be worth a try. Derick SM2K#400 Brava
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OLDER MARAMU REPOWERING WITH YANMAR 4JH4-HTE WATER INGRESS EXHAUST
Good morning to all. We repowered our Older 1981 Maramu with a Yanmar 4JH4-HTE work completed 2 1/2 years ago. The engine now has less than 300 hours.Previous engine was a Perkins 4154. We have had two incidents. 1. Carter flooded with seawater from the exhaust from overcranking. Inadvertently the engine ran about 20 minutes in this condition. The engine had less then 100 hours when this ocurred. The engine was left like this for 30 days. When we realized what had happened we made 6 oil and filter changes to flush the engine. The engine started with some difficulty but operated normally when used for another 200 hours approx.in the course of 2 years. 2. Last week after being shut down one month, the engine would not turn. We decided to remove the valve cover and injectors and found cylinder No.1 with one cup of seawater. Water apparently entered when it was shut down. That cylinder was with the exhaust valve open. We removed the water and flooded all cylinders with WD-40 and 15-W40 engine oil to attempt getting the pistons unstuck. The raw water intake was left identical to the original arrangement which worked well with the Perkins. The diameter of the Yanmar Exhaust is 3" slightly larger than the Perkins´ and therefore modified the Amel supplied SS muffler which is in good condition for this diameter. The exhaust hose after the muffler was changed but is slighty less diameter than the 3" from the engine. Also we had to relocate the muffler to the port side to adapt to the new Yanmar exhaust location. Obviously there is a hydraulics problem I don´t understand very well. I posted some pics of the installation we have now. The 3" exhaust hose from the Yanmar does curve up before coupling to the muffler, that could be a problem. I seek some advice from the group members regarding what should we do with the engine (first aid) and second the hydraulics of the exhaust system, where did we go wrong? Alex Paquin SIMPATICO Older Maramu 1981, hull #94
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I would like to hire a crew to ferry my Sharki from City Island Marina to Pepperell Cove, Kittery Point, ME
Roy Duddy <RDuddy@...>
Anyone interested that is qualified AND neat? The last time I had her ferried the Captain was a slob!!! Thanks.
Roy Unwineding Sharki #123 Roy Duddy
Duddy Law Offices One Liberty Lane, Suite 256 Hampton, New Hampshire 03842 603-668-9000 Tel. 603-758-1084 Fax 800-675-0800 New England 603-315-9600 Cell
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Marina for wintering Greece, Cyprus, and Sicily - haulouts
Mohammad Shirloo
Thank you Bill. I'm sure I will be taking you up on your kind offer of sharing your experience.
Mohammad and Aty Amel 54 #099 B&B Kokomo
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Blue Sea AC Multimeter Installation
Alexandre,
I will try to send you pictures within the next day, or so. (waiting for a new camera to arrive from Amazon)
With best regards,
Mark
Super Maramu 2000 Hull #275 www.creampuff.us Currently cruising: Tampa Bay for hurricane season
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:07 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Blue Sea AC Multimeter Installation
Good afternoon,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Marina for wintering Greece, Cyprus, and Sicily - haulouts
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Mohammad, email anytime, or directly at bill"at"svbebe.com. I tried to give you the best understanding of our experience in the Med from Sicily to Turkey to Cyprus to Greece. Bill Rouse
On Jun 14, 2016 7:59 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts
Hi Pat. No, it is a disc the same thickness as the Vetus coupling, with holes drilled for the bolts. The disc is installed just as the Vetus would be, and alignment performed with the disc in place. Then the engine is moved back, the disc removed, and the Vetus reinstalled, moving the engine back to where it was when aligned properly with the disc. Does that sound right? Am I missing anything? Kent SM243 Kristy
On Jun 14, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, I replaced my mounts last fall and all seems good , however I remember this solid coupling suggested as a means of assuring alignment . Could you describe it ? It would seem to me, that all you would need would be pipe milled to be the exact ID as the shaft's OD . The shafts would not be able to side into the pipe unless absolutely aligned . Is that basically what it is ?
Thanks,
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2016 7:08 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts Hi Mike.
Did you know that Amel recommends (or did) using a solid coupling of the same dimensions as the Vetus flexible coupling? The engine is aligned using the solid coupling, 1/1000" tolerance. Then the solid coupling is removed and replaced with the Vetus coupling. I had a solid coupling made at a machine shop in Puerto Rico out of aluminum. On Kristy there is very little if any difference in vibration whether in neutral or in gear. Hope that sheds a little more light. Kent SM 243 Currently Bonaire
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya Bilge Pump not pumping
Mohammad Shirloo
Thanks again Bill.
So, Is my understanding from your reply correct that it would be normal for a hose full of water that is connected to the joker valve to drain slowly through the joker valve, if not connected and sealed 100% to the pump? If so, then my issue may be the hose to pickup or hose to pump connection. Mohammad and Aty Amel 54 #099 B&B Kokomo
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Re: Hi Derick
Hi Eric,
We left Sint Maarten yesterday with the last bridge opening, and are currently in St. Barts, looking for a weather window to sail down to Antigua. I have a haulout date set on Friday morning the 17th, in Bailey's Boatyard in Falmouth Harbour, so I am afraid I missed you. Kimberlite looks stellar! Next year? Fair winds, Derick SM2K#400 Brava
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Re: Reya Bilge Pump not pumping
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Bill;
Thanks for the reply. I also suspect the back flow intake. However wanted to be sure. Do you know if the backflow device should be able to hold the water in the hose with the pipe disconnected from the pump without any water leakage? Also, where did you buy the back flow device from? Thanks Mohammad and Aty Amel 54 #099 B&B Kokomo
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya Bilge Pump not pumping
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Your answers are below the questions: 1. Is the backflow device 100% responsible for not letting the water drain out of the pump or does the pump need to be attached to the hose for the back flow device to work? 2. Since I could not get the pump to work even when the hose was held at pump height and filled with water, do you agree with my conclusion that the a new re-build kit needs to be installed? 3. I know I had seen the instructions for installing the re-build kit on this forum but can't seem to find it. Can some one point me in the right direction or e-mail me the procedure/manual at Bill Rouse Our Reya Bilge pump (TIPO - MARINA) has stopped pumping. A new kit was installed about a year ago and it has worked fine other than losing prime a few times. I would have to remove the hose and intake from the bilge, fill the hose with water while the pump was running and as soon as it would prime I would put it back in and it would work fine. In the past month, I have had to do this several times. I remember reading on the forum that the problem can be with the pipe getting old and not sealing properly and letting air back in. So I disconnected the hose and filled it with water with the back flow intake attached. Water slowly drains from the back flow intake and nothing comes out from around the hose. My questions are: 1. Is the backflow device 100% responsible for not letting the water drain out of the pump or does the pump need to be attached to the hose for the back flow device to work? 2. Since I could not get the pump to work even when the hose was held at pump height and filled with water, do you agree with my conclusion that the a new re-build kit needs to be installed? 3. I know I had seen the instructions for installing the re-build kit on this forum but can't seem to find it. Can some one point me in the right direction or e-mail me the procedure/manual at mshirloo at transpacific dot us. Thank you
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 how to chenge bow thruster oil
ya_fohi
Thanks Olivier. I have managed to change the oil from the top. In the process I found it useful to attach an air pump (used for the dinghy) to the top of the reservoir which greatly speeded up the process by forcing the old oil out and the new oil in.
Cheers, Paul
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Re: Reya Bilge Pump not pumping
william_maffei@...
Hey there -
If you are constantly having to prime your pump then there is an air leak somewhere in the line that needs to be addressed. I had the same problem when I did the re-build. I am almost certain (if done correctly) it is not necessary to re-build again. To solve my problem I replaced the one way value on the intake hose and added a hose clamp at the bottom NPT on the pump itself. Worked like a charm. Bill Maffei It's all Good SM #195
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts
Patrick McAneny
Kent, I replaced my mounts last fall and all seems good , however I remember this solid coupling suggested as a means of assuring alignment . Could you describe it ? It would seem to me, that all you would need would be pipe milled to be the exact ID as the shaft's OD . The shafts would not be able to side into the pipe unless absolutely aligned . Is that basically what it is ?
Thanks,
Pat
-----Original Message----- From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2016 7:08 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo TMD22 engine mounts Hi Mike.
Did you know that Amel recommends (or did) using a solid coupling of the same dimensions as the Vetus flexible coupling? The engine is aligned using the solid coupling, 1/1000" tolerance. Then the solid coupling is removed and replaced with the Vetus coupling. I had a solid coupling made at a machine shop in Puerto Rico out of aluminum. On Kristy there is very little if any difference in vibration whether in neutral or in gear. Hope that sheds a little more light. Kent SM 243 Currently Bonaire
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