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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Kent,

I remember not long after when I changed mine (May 2013), the question came on the forum and being very new I did not want to say how much I paid for them as I thought I paid way too much…
Only time will say if it was a good decision.
There is no way I will ever reach the 10.000 opening, just curious if they will last longer than the others…

Regardless the technical information can help other finding different products!

How do you like Curacao?

Off forum, just back from the Dermatologist, as I was worrying about a mole getting larger, thankfully was benign!

Alexandre




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On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 4:02 PM


 









Bon Tardi from Curaçao, Alex.  I guess
you set the standard with Bansbach.  By the time I bought
mine they were $75 each including shipping.  It's rare
that I get a better price than someone else!Kent
On Jun 20,
2016, at 4:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Good memory Kent,



I purchased 2 from

Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999

Esteban Contreras estebanc@easylift.com



A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel

Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall

400 NM resistance

The stroke is 8 mm

The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm

With 8 mm hinge on each side.



Took a few weeks to build

They were $125 each (and free shipping).



These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for
10.000 opening... 

They also had a cheaper standard line.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room
hatch

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM





 



















Hi Ben,If you look back several

months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted
a

source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very

reasonably

priced.KentSM243Kristy 

On Jun 20,

2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 













Bill, Did you buy these struts

from Amel?Ben



Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG

#1120066SM #347

Sent from my

iPad

On Jun 20, 2016,

at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 













Derick,

My experience is they will last

about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I

think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but
that

is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are

rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except
to

keep them clean.

It is

easy to bend one of these if you close the lid
improperly.

The proper way to close is to press down on the middle
of

the engine room lid.

Best, 

BillBeBe 387le

Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at

11:58 PM, derickgates@comcast.net

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Ben,  

I am

glad that you were able to find swift and competent care
for

what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for
sharing

this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more
care

when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been

stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had
to

replace it.  I found that after replacement of the
strut

that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than

before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need
to

be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have
a

suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick GatesSM2K#400

BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for

hurricane season.






























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch

karkauai
 

Bon Tardi from Curaçao, Alex.  I guess you set the standard with Bansbach.  By the time I bought mine they were $75 each including shipping.  It's rare that I get a better price than someone else!
Kent



On Jun 20, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good memory Kent,

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@...

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... 
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM


 









Hi Ben,If you look back several
months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a
source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very
reasonably
priced.KentSM243Kristy 
On Jun 20,
2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Bill, Did you buy these struts
from Amel?Ben

Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG
#1120066SM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Jun 20, 2016,
at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Derick,
My experience is they will last
about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I
think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that
is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are
rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to
keep them clean.
It is
easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly.
The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of
the engine room lid.
Best, 
BillBeBe 387le
Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at
11:58 PM, derickgates@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Ben,  
I am
glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for
what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing
this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care
when operating the engine room hatch.  
One of my gas struts had been
stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to
replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut
that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than
before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to
be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a
suggestion as to how long they should last?
Derick GatesSM2K#400
BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for
hurricane season.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator on top of the mizzen mast

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Dennis,

We have a very good arch which including the solar panel and the davits hardware is less then $6000.

Doesn’t make noise either…

:-)

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007



On 20 Jun 2016, at 18:58, Dennis Johns sbmesasailor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi

I've commented on this topic before in this group and my experience is different than most of the current responders.  This topic gets about the same attention as anchors.  I find it curious that the cost/benefit equation being used for solar panels does not include the $10,000 arch installed in the stern.

We installed an Air Breeze windgen (with aftermarket propellers) just above our radar on the mizzen.  In 15 kts it generates 10-12 amps as long as the wind keeps blowing.

Our solar panels do not rotate to follow the sun so they only produce measurable amps 6 hours a day in cloudless skies.  We've almost completed a circumnavigation and we've seen an awful lot of cloudy days and we've been in a lot of anchorages where the wind blows all day and all night.

Our Air Breeze is very quiet.  When we are in an anchorage, it seems we can hear everyone else's windgen but not our own.  The Air Breeze has a ground switch that acts as a brake and allows us to hoist the mizzen stay sail without incident.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have about our windgen.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121
Grenada




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good memory Kent,

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@easylift.com

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... 
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM


 









Hi Ben,If you look back several
months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a
source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very
reasonably
priced.KentSM243Kristy 
On Jun 20,
2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Bill, Did you buy these struts
from Amel?Ben

Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG
#1120066SM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Jun 20, 2016,
at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Derick,
My experience is they will last
about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I
think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that
is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are
rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to
keep them clean.
It is
easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly.
The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of
the engine room lid.
Best, 
BillBeBe 387le
Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at
11:58 PM, derickgates@comcast.net
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Ben,  
I am
glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for
what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing
this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care
when operating the engine room hatch.  
One of my gas struts had been
stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to
replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut
that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than
before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to
be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a
suggestion as to how long they should last?
Derick GatesSM2K#400
BravaCurrently on the hard in Antigua for
hurricane season.


Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch

karkauai
 

Hi Ben,
If you look back several months (maybe a year) I think it was  Alexandre posted a source for these in the US.  Stainless steel and very reasonably priced.
Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill, 
Did you buy these struts from Amel?
Ben


Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On Jun 20, 2016, at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Derick,

My experience is they will last about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to keep them clean.

It is easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly. The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of the engine room lid.

Best, 

Bill
BeBe 387
le Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:58 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben,  


I am glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua for hurricane season.



Re: Amel to the rescue

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Ben,

Sorry to read about your injury.  May it fully heal with as little pain as possible.

We got new struts from Amel in La Rochelle last year, as the starboard side one had just failed a few days before our arrival.  The new ones are all nice and shiny in silver; the old ones were black with just the pistons being silver.

Best,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Beaulieu-sur-Mer


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel to the rescue

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

No, a friend sourced them for me. I recommend that you do unless you are really familiar with these. There are many, many variables.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


Re: Wind generator on top of the mizzen mast

sbmesasailor
 

Hi

I've commented on this topic before in this group and my experience is different than most of the current responders.  This topic gets about the same attention as anchors.  I find it curious that the cost/benefit equation being used for solar panels does not include the $10,000 arch installed in the stern.

We installed an Air Breeze windgen (with aftermarket propellers) just above our radar on the mizzen.  In 15 kts it generates 10-12 amps as long as the wind keeps blowing.

Our solar panels do not rotate to follow the sun so they only produce measurable amps 6 hours a day in cloudless skies.  We've almost completed a circumnavigation and we've seen an awful lot of cloudy days and we've been in a lot of anchorages where the wind blows all day and all night.

Our Air Breeze is very quiet.  When we are in an anchorage, it seems we can hear everyone else's windgen but not our own.  The Air Breeze has a ground switch that acts as a brake and allows us to hoist the mizzen stay sail without incident.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have about our windgen.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121
Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Problem with the fresh water preassure switch

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

20-40 psi is the correct range. This is adjustable +/- 5 psi.

There are several good YouTube videos showing the adjustments...be sure to check them out.

Bill
BeBe

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Paul,


I bought 2 X Square D 9013FSG2 this winter. Available in any good hardware store for about 15€ each.  The pressure is adjustable but the part here is 20-40 PSI

I paid €9 each for mine.

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 20 Jun 2016, at 17:23, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

James

Where did you order the pressure switch? I'm been looking and found on Amazon (70€), but they got very many I assume 10-30 PSI is the right pressure, but have only found 20-40 psi, but maybe one can adjust down to 10-30 psi?
Did you ordered the one way valve at the same place?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259
 

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Problem with the fresh water preassure switch

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Paul,

I bought 2 X Square D 9013FSG2 this winter. Available in any good hardware store for about 15€ each.  The pressure is adjustable but the part here is 20-40 PSI

I paid €9 each for mine.

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 20 Jun 2016, at 17:23, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

James

Where did you order the pressure switch? I'm been looking and found on Amazon (70€), but they got very many I assume 10-30 PSI is the right pressure, but have only found 20-40 psi, but maybe one can adjust down to 10-30 psi?
Did you ordered the one way valve at the same place?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259
 

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Re: Problem with the fresh water preassure switch

Paul Osterberg
 

James
Where did you order the pressure switch? I'm been looking and found on Amazon (70€), but they got very many I assume 10-30 PSI is the right pressure, but have only found 20-40 psi, but maybe one can adjust down to 10-30 psi?
Did you ordered the one way valve at the same place?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator on top of the mizzen mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Bill and Annsofie,

around 12 Ah a day as an average is not very impressive at all, our 450 from Emek gives on average 80 Ah per day and good days over 100 Ah, the 200 w on the rail gives "only" just over 15Ah per day.I think they more often get in shadow, and it's regulator "slow" them down when batteries reaching 95% or above but the regulator for the 450 W arc continues to give full blast more or less. so compared with that, a wind generator does not give much, I'm surprised about the low figures you mention. At 12 knots a superwind should give ca 24 Ah 24 h, and during 2 h at 20 knots wind should give 15 Ah. But more interesting than the average is what does it give days when solar does not give much such as rainy murky days? And as you Bill I do not like to run the diesel generator when sailing or anchored closed to others.
I have two spare 100 watt flexible light weight solar cells I was planing to put on the canvas bimini, but the canvas man said it's not a good idea, you will get chafe, and water/moister between the canvas and the Solar cell, the chafe I believe could be sorted out with chafe protection, but the moister issue might be more difficult to solve. Does anyone have any experience with light weight solar panels on top of the bimini or spray hood?

An other interesting thing with solar panels, they give surprisingly much even cloudy days. the lowest we got from the 450 w panels have been 28 Ah during the two month we have had the Victron MPPT controller, that was a cloudy and rainy day
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

Without Gary Silver and your help, I could not have done it. So first a big thank to both of you!

I will need to improve it, as I did not show the replacement of the 2 foam seals on the bow thruster foot.
Also I should cut it in sections, to make it more low bandwidth friendly…

Also, the last time, it was much easier to add the bearings.

I just added the new specifications on the neoprene foam seal and the seal.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Mon, 6/20/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 8:07 AM


 









Alex,
Everyone should download the
fantastic photo display of the bow thruster overhaul that
you provide at http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html It
is the best! Perfect!
Also,
regarding your parts list. Amel has changed the foam seals
to all 3 seals being Neoprene foam seal 110x60. The Natural
Foam that was used inside is now Neoprene foam. You may want
to update your parts list to reflect this
change.
Thanks,
BillBeBe
387


On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at
11:48 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Glad you got it out.



Yes the oil is SAE 90

The email is: sav@amel.fr



If I may suggest, purchase spare foam seals, seals, nylon
bolt, hubs,, stainless pin, etc.

Heroes what I carry on:

http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html



Here are pictures I took of the overhaul procedure written
by Gary Silver and notes from Bill Rouse.

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html



If you need help don’t hesitate.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, rossienio@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service.
Problem

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:15 AM





 



















Thanks for your suggestions. Finally the foot is

out!!!!!!I used a chain wrench, a hammer, Amel tool and
the

help of a mechanic. Now I have to change the oil
(SAE90????)

and 3 new neoprene washers. Who should I order the 3
foam

seals? Does anyone have the email address  of Amel AV

France? 



















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem

Bill <greatketch@...>
 

And the size of the seal on the prop shaft has changed too...

from an ID of 30 to 29.



On Jun 20, 2016, at 09:07, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alex,

Everyone should download the fantastic photo display of the bow thruster overhaul that you provide at http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html It is the best! Perfect!

Also, regarding your parts list. Amel has changed the foam seals to all 3 seals being Neoprene foam seal 110x60. The Natural Foam that was used inside is now Neoprene foam. You may want to update your parts list to reflect this change.

Thanks,

Bill
BeBe 387



On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Glad you got it out.

Yes the oil is SAE 90
The email is: sav@...

If I may suggest, purchase spare foam seals, seals, nylon bolt, hubs,, stainless pin, etc.
Heroes what I carry on:
http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html

Here are pictures I took of the overhaul procedure written by Gary Silver and notes from Bill Rouse.
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you need help don’t hesitate.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, rossienio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:15 AM


 









Thanks for your suggestions. Finally the foot is
out!!!!!!I used a chain wrench, a hammer, Amel tool and the
help of a mechanic. Now I have to change the oil (SAE90????)
and 3 new neoprene washers. Who should I order the 3 foam
seals? Does anyone have the email address  of Amel AV
France? 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

Everyone should download the fantastic photo display of the bow thruster overhaul that you provide at http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html It is the best! Perfect!

Also, regarding your parts list. Amel has changed the foam seals to all 3 seals being Neoprene foam seal 110x60. The Natural Foam that was used inside is now Neoprene foam. You may want to update your parts list to reflect this change.

Thanks,

Bill
BeBe 387



On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Glad you got it out.

Yes the oil is SAE 90
The email is: sav@...

If I may suggest, purchase spare foam seals, seals, nylon bolt, hubs,, stainless pin, etc.
Heroes what I carry on:
http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html

Here are pictures I took of the overhaul procedure written by Gary Silver and notes from Bill Rouse.
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you need help don’t hesitate.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/20/16, rossienio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:15 AM


 









Thanks for your suggestions. Finally the foot is
out!!!!!!I used a chain wrench, a hammer, Amel tool and the
help of a mechanic. Now I have to change the oil (SAE90????)
and 3 new neoprene washers. Who should I order the 3 foam
seals? Does anyone have the email address  of Amel AV
France? 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel to the rescue

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Bill, 
Did you buy these struts from Amel?
Ben


Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
CG #1120066
SM #347

On Jun 20, 2016, at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Derick,

My experience is they will last about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to keep them clean.

It is easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly. The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of the engine room lid.

Best, 

Bill
BeBe 387
le Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:58 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben,  


I am glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua for hurricane season.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Glad you got it out.

Yes the oil is SAE 90
The email is: sav@amel.fr

If I may suggest, purchase spare foam seals, seals, nylon bolt, hubs,, stainless pin, etc.
Heroes what I carry on:
http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html

Here are pictures I took of the overhaul procedure written by Gary Silver and notes from Bill Rouse.
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you need help don’t hesitate.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 6/20/16, rossienio@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:15 AM


 









Thanks for your suggestions. Finally the foot is
out!!!!!!I used a chain wrench, a hammer, Amel tool and the
help of a mechanic. Now I have to change the oil (SAE90????)
and 3 new neoprene washers. Who should I order the 3 foam
seals? Does anyone have the email address  of Amel AV
France? 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Bow thruster (HAHA)

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

Check your bow thruster propeller. A blade may be cracked. It may have barnacles. It may have line entangled...even monofilament.

It will sound different between Port and Starboard thrusts.

Bill

BeBe 387
Grenada

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:08 AM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hey everyone -


This is not the standard bow thruster question on the forum... 


My bow thruster is working just fine however, I noticed today that while using port bursts it sounds a bit louder than it usually does. Starboard bursts sound as they always do. Performance is the same. There seems to be a bit more vibration during the port burst but not the starboard bursts. I have not had a chance to look at it yet, will do tomorrow just wondering if anyone had the same experience/solution. Maybe the propeller needs replacing? 


P.S. I saw Ipanema sail past me in Boston Harbor today and she looked fantastic!!! 


Thanks,


Bill Maffei

SM #195

It's all Good



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel to the rescue

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Derick,

My experience is they will last about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to keep them clean.

It is easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly. The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of the engine room lid.

Best, 

Bill
BeBe 387
le Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:58 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben,  


I am glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for what must be an excruciating injury.  Thank you for sharing this cautionary tale.  I will certainly take even more care when operating the engine room hatch.  

One of my gas struts had been stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to replace it.  I found that after replacement of the strut that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than before it got bent.  I think that these struts may need to be replaced on some regular schedule.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to how long they should last?

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua for hurricane season.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

send to
sav@... 
they will send  the drawing with parts list & respond on availability of parts
rgds
christian alby, Desirade VIII, Maramu nr 116

Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80



De : "rossienio@... [amelyachtowners]"
À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : Lundi 20 juin 2016 10h15
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem

 
Thanks for your suggestions. Finally the foot is out!!!!!!I used a chain wrench, a hammer, Amel tool and the help of a mechanic. Now I have to change the oil (SAE90????) and 3 new neoprene washers. Who should I order the 3 foam seals? Does anyone have the email address  of Amel AV France?