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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Boom track bolts

karkauai
 

Hi Eamonn,  the one I got out of the mizzen track was 6mm 25mm long.
Kent


On Jul 16, 2016, at 7:49 AM, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi

I was recently told that the bolts are probably:  M8 x 50mm and M6 x 50mm countersunk aluminium bolts.

I will order these and try in September.  If I don't correct this post by October, then that it what is required.

Thanks for trying Kirsty!

Eamonn

#151 SM Travel Bug
Cleopatra Marina, Greece


Re: Boom track bolts

eamonn.washington@...
 

Hi

I was recently told that the bolts are probably:  M8 x 50mm and M6 x 50mm countersunk aluminium bolts.

I will order these and try in September.  If I don't correct this post by October, then that it what is required.

Thanks for trying Kirsty!

Eamonn

#151 SM Travel Bug
Cleopatra Marina, Greece


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information needed. Maxprop on TDM 22 Volvo.

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Odd things can happen with a non-fixed pitch prop.  On my old boat I wrapped a line on my Maxprop while docking. When I put the gear shift in reverse the boat went backwards.  When I put it in forward the boat went… backwards!  Exciting times.

Re-pitching a Maxprop can be done in the water, but it is a very difficult job.  A good idea is to spread a fine mesh net underneath to catch the parts you will drop.
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On Jul 16, 2016, at 07:10, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Bill K,


Thanks for the info… to my  surprise, when placing the lever in forward while exiting the suspension straps, the boat moved aft.  Moved the lever aft and she moved ahead.  Reversed the cables on the Morse and problem fixed enough to go to the berth safely.

Now I have to fix the problem afloat…. Humm!

FYI, Olivier told me to set the pitch at 22 degrees and explained that boats with tired engines often opted to  set 20 degrees,,, FWIW.

Cheers and fair winds,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
Eleuthera SM 007


On 16 Jul 2016, at 12:58, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It matters greatly the direction of rotation. Although the propeller will push the boat either way, if you stop the engine while the prop is turning in reverse, it will not feather.  This is the way you could use the Maxprop to drive  a shaft alternator.  If you assemble it backwards, the only way to get it to feather would be to stop the engine while in reverse gear.  Annoying, at best.


The notes in our documentation say that the prop should be set to 20 degrees pitch, left rotating. 

If this is your first time putting a Maxprop back together expect to take more than one try. It’s not hard, but it does require careful attention to detail to make sure everything goes together the right way.  Follow instructions exactly!

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 16, 2016, at 00:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hello Gang,


We are servicing the prop but did not note the settings ...


First question: what is the direction of rotation?


Second question: does it matter if it is right hand or left hand?  Is there more efficiency in one direction instead of the other?


Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera SM 007








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information needed. Maxprop on TDM 22 Volvo.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Bill K,

Thanks for the info… to my  surprise, when placing the lever in forward while exiting the suspension straps, the boat moved aft.  Moved the lever aft and she moved ahead.  Reversed the cables on the Morse and problem fixed enough to go to the berth safely.

Now I have to fix the problem afloat…. Humm!

FYI, Olivier told me to set the pitch at 22 degrees and explained that boats with tired engines often opted to  set 20 degrees,,, FWIW.

Cheers and fair winds,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
Eleuthera SM 007


On 16 Jul 2016, at 12:58, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It matters greatly the direction of rotation. Although the propeller will push the boat either way, if you stop the engine while the prop is turning in reverse, it will not feather.  This is the way you could use the Maxprop to drive  a shaft alternator.  If you assemble it backwards, the only way to get it to feather would be to stop the engine while in reverse gear.  Annoying, at best.


The notes in our documentation say that the prop should be set to 20 degrees pitch, left rotating. 

If this is your first time putting a Maxprop back together expect to take more than one try. It’s not hard, but it does require careful attention to detail to make sure everything goes together the right way.  Follow instructions exactly!

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 16, 2016, at 00:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hello Gang,


We are servicing the prop but did not note the settings ...


First question: what is the direction of rotation?


Second question: does it matter if it is right hand or left hand?  Is there more efficiency in one direction instead of the other?


Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera SM 007






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Information needed. Maxprop on TDM 22 Volvo.

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

It matters greatly the direction of rotation. Although the propeller will push the boat either way, if you stop the engine while the prop is turning in reverse, it will not feather.  This is the way you could use the Maxprop to drive  a shaft alternator.  If you assemble it backwards, the only way to get it to feather would be to stop the engine while in reverse gear.  Annoying, at best.

The notes in our documentation say that the prop should be set to 20 degrees pitch, left rotating. 

If this is your first time putting a Maxprop back together expect to take more than one try. It’s not hard, but it does require careful attention to detail to make sure everything goes together the right way.  Follow instructions exactly!

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 16, 2016, at 00:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hello Gang,


We are servicing the prop but did not note the settings ...


First question: what is the direction of rotation?


Second question: does it matter if it is right hand or left hand?  Is there more efficiency in one direction instead of the other?


Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera SM 007




Information needed. Maxprop on TDM 22 Volvo.

jgermain@...
 

Hello Gang,


We are servicing the prop but did not note the settings ...


First question: what is the direction of rotation?


Second question: does it matter if it is right hand or left hand?  Is there more efficiency in one direction instead of the other?


Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera SM 007


Re: sheets for Maramu

John Clark
 

Yes I think this is the same boat.  I once looked at it a few years ago...the price was eye catching...


She has a sad story attached to it.  The last owner, who christened her Papa II was apparently a pretty great guy who died too soon.

Remembering Captain Dan

 




Re: Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

John Clark
 

Congratulations on the purchase Niels,

Bigouz looks like a very fine vessel...I had it on my "short list,"  I guess I was too slow for you speedy Danes!   ;)

                     Regards,  John








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I emailed you photos directly

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:20 PM, niels.hauerslev@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Bill

Thank you for helping out.
I am located in Denmark (bought the boat 2 weeks ago in France and sailed her back here).
Olivier did the survey, and he confirmed the 24V alternator was charging at that time (a week before I took over the yacht).
He did not mention the alternator being non-original, and that the red lamp was out of order.
I hope it is the original alternator, and that it is isolated as required, to prevent galvanic corrosion!!!
Maybe I could ask for a picture of your installation, if you are near the boat, and possibly the full part code of the alternator on your vessel? I could order the correct part and have the system back to original.
Thanks a billion :)
BR Niels



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Neils
I've posted a pic of what our alternator looks like....it has been modified for an external reg but the originla reg is still there.
You can check if the alternator is isolated with your multimeter on ohms...between the negative alternator lead and the engine block, the resistance should be large, if it is close to 0.00 then your alternator is not isolated.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

niels.hauerslev@...
 

Dear Bill
Thank you for helping out.
I am located in Denmark (bought the boat 2 weeks ago in France and sailed her back here).
Olivier did the survey, and he confirmed the 24V alternator was charging at that time (a week before I took over the yacht).
He did not mention the alternator being non-original, and that the red lamp was out of order.
I hope it is the original alternator, and that it is isolated as required, to prevent galvanic corrosion!!!
Maybe I could ask for a picture of your installation, if you are near the boat, and possibly the full part code of the alternator on your vessel? I could order the correct part and have the system back to original.
Thanks a billion :)
BR Niels


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Niels,

I looked at the photo again. I cannot be positive and I do not want to alarm you, but I believe that the alternator in the photo is not an isolated ground alternator. I think that you need some expert help.

Where are you?

Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Niels,

That is NOT Leese Neville and based on your hull number I am 99.9% sure that it is not original equipment.

I am not sure what to tell you, but if I were you I would ask the previous owner what happened.

Since it is not original equipment, I am betting the relay is no longer there and the red light is non-functional...all of those were part of the original Amel setup.

I hope that an isolated ground alternator was installed in place of the original. You need to know if it is or not.

Where are you located?

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM, niels.hauerslev@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks to you all, I have been working at it today;

I checked the voltage at the alternator, while engine is on, and it shows the same voltage (25,5) as my battery bank...so no charge coming from the alternator...
Will check again the connections on the alternator, and on the relay mounted on the main engine.
Tried 2500 RPM also, and did not get it alive.
Still no light in the red bulb, on the 24 V panel.
Will update once I get it to work.
Not sure if my alternator is the Leece Neville, looks nothing like the pictures on the website.
I got a picture of my alternator and put it on dropbox;

Cheers,
Niels




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Niels,

That is NOT Leese Neville and based on your hull number I am 99.9% sure that it is not original equipment.

I am not sure what to tell you, but if I were you I would ask the previous owner what happened.

Since it is not original equipment, I am betting the relay is no longer there and the red light is non-functional...all of those were part of the original Amel setup.

I hope that an isolated ground alternator was installed in place of the original. You need to know if it is or not.

Where are you located?

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM, niels.hauerslev@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks to you all, I have been working at it today;

I checked the voltage at the alternator, while engine is on, and it shows the same voltage (25,5) as my battery bank...so no charge coming from the alternator...
Will check again the connections on the alternator, and on the relay mounted on the main engine.
Tried 2500 RPM also, and did not get it alive.
Still no light in the red bulb, on the 24 V panel.
Will update once I get it to work.
Not sure if my alternator is the Leece Neville, looks nothing like the pictures on the website.
I got a picture of my alternator and put it on dropbox;

Cheers,
Niels



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

niels.hauerslev@...
 

Thanks to you all, I have been working at it today;
I checked the voltage at the alternator, while engine is on, and it shows the same voltage (25,5) as my battery bank...so no charge coming from the alternator...
Will check again the connections on the alternator, and on the relay mounted on the main engine.
Tried 2500 RPM also, and did not get it alive.
Still no light in the red bulb, on the 24 V panel.
Will update once I get it to work.
Not sure if my alternator is the Leece Neville, looks nothing like the pictures on the website.
I got a picture of my alternator and put it on dropbox;

Cheers,
Niels


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I had exactly same symptoms on my boat.  It turned out to be a bad connection on the 24 volt alternator.  One of the small "field" wires had corroded and was no longer making contact.   Check all these connection closely -- up close with a light.  They are sometimes difficult to see.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Niels Hauerslev niels.hauerslev@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi, as a new owner, I am having trouble with the 24 Volt alternator not charging.
The red lamp on 24 Volt panel does not light up at any time, showing fault, so tried to hook up a 24 Volt G4 bulb to the "red light" wires, just to check if the lamp was OK, but still no light comes on...
Does anyone know the make/model of the 24 Volt alternator, sitting on the Yanmar 4JH on a SM2000?? I think I will get a new one, and get the old one repaired for spare. The sticker on the alternator is gone.
Thanks a billion!
Niels
Bigouz SM2000 #351


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigeration Fault Codes for Frigoboat.

SV Perigee
 

Thanks Bill



On Thursday, 7 July 2016, 17:22, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Amel Owners,
If you have Frigoboat freezers and/or fridge, you have the best and you certainly will want to have a copy of this from our friends at Coastal Climate Control. 
CW Bill Rouse, Admiral (Hon) Texas Navy
Yacht BeBe

+1(868) 782-3067 Trinidad 
+1832-380-4970 Global VoiceMail



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

There is a small relay on the engine that may be at fault, or the plug to the relay may be loose.

Can you get the alternator to charge by gunning the engine to 2200 rpm?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 15, 2016 2:25 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Neils,

The 24V alternator is a Leece Neville 8SC 175A alternator with an inbuilt regulator, unless a previous owner has modified it like ours to have an external regulator.
How do you know that its not charging? No amps on the Xantrex monitor ?
If the red light isn't on then maybe you have an issue with the connection between the alternator output and the batteries.
I would check all the connections, particularly the heavy cables for tightness first.
Then use a multimeter to check the voltage at the alternator across the big cables when the motor is running.
If its over 28 volts then the alternator is working, if its not then the re is an issue with the alternator...and it maybe be only the regulator, which is replaceable.
Go to the Leece-Neville alternator page for this model 8SC,
Prestolite - Leece Neville
Prestolite - Leece Neville
Prestolite Electric / Leece-Neville is a global manufacturer of alternators and starter motors selling into niche markets for heavy duty (truck, bus, emergency, off-road), marine, military and industrial applications.
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there's a lot of information there .....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
 


Re: Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Neils,
The 24V alternator is a Leece Neville 8SC 175A alternator with an inbuilt regulator, unless a previous owner has modified it like ours to have an external regulator.
How do you know that its not charging? No amps on the Xantrex monitor ?
If the red light isn't on then maybe you have an issue with the connection between the alternator output and the batteries.
I would check all the connections, particularly the heavy cables for tightness first.
Then use a multimeter to check the voltage at the alternator across the big cables when the motor is running.
If its over 28 volts then the alternator is working, if its not then the re is an issue with the alternator...and it maybe be only the regulator, which is replaceable.
Go to the Leece-Neville alternator page for this model 8SC,
Prestolite - Leece Neville

 

 
there's a lot of information there .....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
 


Yanmar 24 volt alternator make/model

Niels Hauerslev <niels.hauerslev@...>
 

Hi, as a new owner, I am having trouble with the 24 Volt alternator not charging.
The red lamp on 24 Volt panel does not light up at any time, showing fault, so tried to hook up a 24 Volt G4 bulb to the "red light" wires, just to check if the lamp was OK, but still no light comes on...
Does anyone know the make/model of the 24 Volt alternator, sitting on the Yanmar 4JH on a SM2000?? I think I will get a new one, and get the old one repaired for spare. The sticker on the alternator is gone.
Thanks a billion!
Niels
Bigouz SM2000 #351


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] EFOY fuel cell

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

I’ll emphasize one point just because it is really important. 

Installing a methanol powered device in your engine room, or anywhere below deck on a boat, or even storing methanol below deck raises very serious issues.  I am sure you can find someone on the internet who will tell you it is ok, but it is NOT.  

By many measures methanol is more dangerous to handle than gasoline.  It has a much wider concentration range at which it will explode, and requires much less energy to ignite.  Methanol vapors in a confined space are more dangerous even than propane.  An Amel engine space is not designed with the electrical standards, spark suppression, automatic ventilation and other features needed to handle any fuel more volatile than diesel.

If you decide to go ahead with this, be sure you have someone who understands the issues review the installation.

Handling flammable materials on a boat can be done safely--witness the large number of gasoline powered boats--but it is very serious business, and not something to be done lightly or in ignorance of the issues.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Jul 14, 2016, at 06:34, danielmfrey63@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Thanks for all your inputs.

I have no personal experience, but the advantages / disadvantages of the EFOY are said to be:

+ works completly quiet in the background
+ delivers the complete amount of energy for one day
+ easy installation
+ no arches for solar panels / no platforms for wind gens / no interference with the beautiful silhouette of a Super Maramu or a Santorin...
+ batteries are charged constantly and gently
+ Independent from weather (wind, sun)
+ can be removed from the boat within 30 minutes and installed in an other boat
+ with 1 fuel can a boat can be in a bay without starting the engine or the gen
+ no maintenance costs

- proprietary fuel necessary
- fuel expensive
- fuel must be bought and transported at a still limited network of shops (no post delivery, not to be transported in airplanes, etc.)
- fuel dangerous (poisonous and easily inflammable)
- rel. high initial Investment for the engine
- limited lifetime of the engine (approx. 6000 hours)
- not enough energy to run air conditioning, or other energy consuming devices on the long run

But that is all only theory. Therefore I asked the - shy - question whether any AMEL owner has personal experience.

Best - Daniel