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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Paul Osterberg
 

True
An other fellow told me that not only the sum of you vise (spelling) are constant, but also the sum of the problem on the boat, His strategy is: if he have a problem he can live with he do not fix it properly as it will only be an other problem in stead.!!!???? have not tried that strategy yet...
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

karkauai
 

Boats!
Someone once told me if you have 10 things to repair,and you do 7 of them...there's only 8 more things on the list.

Kent


On Aug 9, 2016, at 1:45 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

You are probably right my list get longer as the heat hear in Spain. decided to fix at least one thing every day. Today it was the water pump then a few? Cold bear tomorrow we fix another thing on the list
Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Paul Osterberg
 

You are probably right my list get longer as the heat hear in Spain. decided to fix at least one thing every day. Today it was the water pump then a few? Cold bear tomorrow we fix another thing on the list
Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

That wire powers the light on the 24VDC panel. It lights when the pump runs. If you splice it to the 24VDC positive wire running from the pressure switch on the Jabsco fresh water pump, it will light as it did with your Amel Installed pump.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Isn't it the one going to the light on the 24 Volt panel?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

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On Tue, 8/9/16, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2016, 10:27 AM


 









Today I change the original fresh
water pump, with a Jabsco Par Max 4, not a big deal, but to
my surprise there was three cables to the old pump, One blue
negative one brown positive and a thin black wire also
negative. Both the Blue and the thin Black cable was
connected to the same terminal on my old pressure switch on
the old pump. My question for what purpose does the black
wire have?Paul on S/Y Kerpa
SM#259









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello again Paul,

I tend to micro manage everything…
In “my” opinion and experience, you should really fix it (could be as simple as the bulb) because it happened to me the pump kept running, which potentially could damage/overheat it.

My last time was the most stupid thing, I thought I would let the “flush” valve ON for the water maker… little by little it emptied my tank and the pump kept running… without the light I would not have noticed it…

Other times were:
-at sea when the batteries were getting a little low, not enough voltage to make it run to the point the pressure switch would stop.
-also when the sediments build up and clog the system (I fix that issue adding a water filter prior the fresh water pump).

Just my opinion, plus should be an easy fix! I still would check with a voltmeter, this wire really goes to the fresh water pump!
If you haven't look inside the 24 Volt panel, here are some pictures:
http://nikimat.com/diruptor_24_volt_panel.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Tue, 8/9/16, @Kerpa [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2016, 12:03 PM


 









Thank you, you are right it has never worked so did
not looked to close, but now it's rather obvious where
it is, an other fault to (not to serious) to find
outThanksPaul on S/Y Kerpa
SM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you, you are right it has never worked so did not looked to close, but now it's rather obvious where it is, an other fault to (not to serious) to find out
Thanks
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Paul,

Our serial number are not far away…
On my 24 Volt Panel, I have a little white light right next to the Dirupter/breaker of the Fresh Water pump
Have a look: http://nikimat.com/diruptor_24_volt_panel/diruptor_24_volt_panel_1.jpg

And I “think” (I would like other to confirm) that the little black wire you mention goes to that light to show the pump is running.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




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On Tue, 8/9/16, @Kerpa [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2016, 11:39 AM


 









I have no light on my fresh water pump, only on
the bilge pump

Paul Amel SM 259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Paul Osterberg
 

I have no light on my fresh water pump, only on the bilge pump
Paul Amel SM 259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Isn't it the one going to the light on the 24 Volt panel?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Tue, 8/9/16, @Kerpa [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2016, 10:27 AM


 









Today I change the original fresh
water pump, with a Jabsco Par Max 4, not a big deal, but to
my surprise there was three cables to the old pump, One blue
negative one brown positive and a thin black wire also
negative. Both the Blue and the thin Black cable was
connected to the same terminal on my old pressure switch on
the old pump. My question for what purpose does the black
wire have?Paul on S/Y Kerpa
SM#259









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] One wire to many?

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hi

Could it be for the light on the switch panel to indicate the pump is on?

Andrew
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet-en-Roussillon 

On 9 Aug 2016, at 17:27, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Today I change the original fresh water pump, with a Jabsco Par Max 4, not a big deal, but to my surprise there was three cables to the old pump, One blue negative one brown positive and a thin black wire also negative. Both the Blue and the thin Black cable was connected to the same terminal on my old pressure switch on the old pump. My question for what purpose does the black wire have?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

One wire to many?

Paul Osterberg
 

Today I change the original fresh water pump, with a Jabsco Par Max 4, not a big deal, but to my surprise there was three cables to the old pump, One blue negative one brown positive and a thin black wire also negative. Both the Blue and the thin Black cable was connected to the same terminal on my old pressure switch on the old pump. My question for what purpose does the black wire have?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] '81 Mango dinette cushion replacement

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

I can recommend North Beach Marine Canvas, in San Francisco.  Not cheap, but she does excellent work.

I have no idea if she will work “remotely” but probably worth a phone call.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Aug 6, 2016, at 21:48, ifiddlediddle@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I have a Mango that is in need of a high quality dinette cushion set.  I have had a tough time finding a local source. Does anybody have a good vendor that could potentially do this replacement remotely?  I live in Southern California.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Upgrading all electronics

enio rossi
 

Hello Kent, My Sterling is the Procharge N, only charger. It has been installed a lot time ago, but I have seen the problem only now, touching the mooring, wet of salt water while connected to the shore power of the marina, with the battery charger on.
I have measured the voltage leak with the tester on AC (3V) and on DC (2,5V) connecting metallic part of the boat with sea water. Only when the B.C.  on.
I have isolated the generator ( all wires in and out disconnected),  but the phenomenon is still present.
Could you suggest me a kind of charger compatible with the Amel isolated ground system?
Now I'm using only solar panels but it is not enough. Thanks Enio 

 

Re: Rollbar stability

jjjk12s@...
 

Stefania and Dietmar,

 

Welcome. Your arch looks very neat. To reduce flexing you could easily add some braces inside the top corners. An easy way would be to use short lengths of  matching stainless tubing with stainless clamps made for biminis or guardrails and use on maybe just the aft pair of pillars so you don't need some welding.

 

John, Maramu 91, Popeye

freight cost

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,
I have had some success in finding a gearbox and gearbox parts for our main furler. Parts from Amel Carribes and a full gearbox from Riza at Emek.
However the freight from Riza to Fiji is horrendous. The gearbox is 920 euro. The freight by UPS which Emek say is the best deal is 560 euro.
Anyone have comments or a better way to freight? Last question. Emerson in Australia want to quote but are asking details of the motor. My decals are mostly illegible. They are asking for the size of the motor and the frame number. Can anyone give me the motor details
Regards (not cheers this time)
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing oil VP TMD22

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

I think that is pretty normal, we get 4-5 liters depending on the temperature of the oil.

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


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7 aug. 2016 kl. 14:00 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hello!

When I change oil in my VP TMD 22, I never get out more than ca 4 liter, The manual say 6 liter.

I use the on purpose "fixed" oil change pump, What do I do wrong? or is it similar for you others with the TMD22?

Paul on S/Yn Kerpa SM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing oil VP TMD22

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Similar for me Paul,

But I unscrew the oil plug “under” the engine block and am able to get a little more, therefore still not the entire 6 liters.
I am able to bring yogurt or sour cream can with covers forward of the transmission Amel Drive.
If you decide to remove the oil plug under the engine block, it is likely to be secure with wire, make sure to add some.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico





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On Sun, 8/7/16, @Kerpa [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing oil VP TMD22
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, August 7, 2016, 8:00 AM


 









Hello!When I
change oil in my VP TMD 22, I never get out more than ca 4
liter, The manual say 6 liter.I use the
on purpose "fixed" oil change pump, What do I do
wrong? or is it similar for you others with the
TMD22?Paul on S/Yn Kerpa
SM#259









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Re: Rollbar stability

Dan
 

Wow! Intregated. Came out incredible. Shame it pivots but it can be fixed. Good luck.

Hull #33 Mango 83. Sarqui. Daniel

euploia roller photos

ste.dente
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rollbar stability

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Stefania and Dietmar,

Welcome!  There is much knowledge in this group and you will find answers to most of your questions.

We have an SM with 3 solar panels with 450W total capacity built atop a gantry which forms a davit for dinghy transport. (in light weather)  Our arch is mounted with the front attachments on the aft part of the railing and the rear attachments are attached on the outer beam of the skirt.  Additionally, we have twin cross bars bracing the structure to a reinforced center candle on the base of the deck.  It adds considerable rigidity to the entire structure.  Safe design.

As an opinion, unless your panels are small capacity, you may have added too much weight aloft for the structure to remain stable and rigid.  If this is the case, you could reduce the number of panels to 3 or resort to a bracing system of applicable design.

Other members will be along soon to add to the topic.

Good luck.


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 7 Aug 2016, at 17:29, ste.dente@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi guys! We're new in the group and we hope someone could help us.

We've a Santorini; we let doing a rollbar in order to hold 4 solar panels and a wind generator. Aesthetically it's very nice. But if you scroll it, it swings ; the blacksmith says that's the normal steel torsional elasticity. We're afraid it could damage the washboard, because the arch is based on it. We will send also some photos to show you how it works. If some engineer would help us...

Stefania and Dietmar "Euploia"-Santorini 93