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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Alexandre,

Nicely illustrated, as always.  Thank you for the instructive pictures!

I note that the way you have hooked up the galvanic isolator, only the 230V shore line is isolated.  The 110V shore line is not (yet) protected.  You can protect the 110V shore line using the same isolator by hooking it up similarly simultaneously.  Disconnect the 110V ground from the common post in the box, and connect it to the input side of the galvanic isolator using the same connection point as the 230V shore ground and you have done it!  (I.e. Change your 2-wire connector to a three-wire connector.)

That way you are protected no matter which shore line you use!

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Currently on the hard in Antigua for hurricane season


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

ok wil do !!!

Alexandre


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On Tue, 8/16/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 1:15 PM


 









You should still remove the bolts and
clean the salt from under the windlass.Kent

Sent from my
iPhone
On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:01
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt
it, etc. I actually have the instruction.

But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil,
since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil,
then I will keep it as it is...



Alexandre



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On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM





 



















Alexandre,

There was a discussion on oil pumps

in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small

diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that

beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and
it

may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt

corroded fast.

Does

anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out

(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the

mounting bolts)??

DuaneWanderer,

SM#477



















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

karkauai
 

You should still remove the bolts and clean the salt from under the windlass.
Kent


On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction.
But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil, since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil, then I will keep it as it is...

Alexandre

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On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM


 









Alexandre,
There was a discussion on oil pumps
in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small
diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.
I would definitely not unbolt that
beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it
may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt
corroded fast.
Does
anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out
(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the
mounting bolts)??
DuaneWanderer,
SM#477









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

karkauai
 

I got the same advice from Lofrans a couple years ago.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.  They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

karkauai
 

There are threaded plates in the deck.  I have had two of the bolts break off when trying to remove them.  I redrilled and tapped them, and use a slightly larger bolt that still fit through the holes in the windlass.  I service it every 6-12 months and always use lanacote or waterproof grease when reassembling.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:05 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Winch Mounting

karkauai
 

I also had a similar problem with the key shortly after I bought the boat.  The cone finally came off with 3 screw drivers and a lot of grunting and cursing.
The key slot in the cone was damaged, so I took it to a machine shop and they cut a new slot for the key.  It has worked fine since.  I'm religious about servicing it and using a snubber now.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Duane,

I feel now terrible to have inspired you to service the windlass…

Here are pictures of used spare parts that came with the boat.
You can see the space for the key bent as well as inner and outer gipsy bent.

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_used_parts.html

I throw these away but purchase a spare of each (which is probably not necessary).

One of my next project is to change the oil of the windlass (and I understood it needs to be unbolted), so if you can take pictures..

Good luck…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 10:05 AM


 









I've been trying to remove the
inner clutch cone without success.  The key is binding in
the clutch cone key-slot.  (picture the clutch cone slot at
11:00, the drive shaft slot at noon, and the key tipped to
stay in both slots).  
I tried using a bearing
splitter, which is the only puller that can be gotten
between the clutch cone and the aluminum casing, and the
puller then pushes against the drive shaft.  It bent the
edge of the clutch cone but did not move one
bit.
I decided to remove the
winch and send it to Lofrans for repair.  Looking in the
chain locker, directly below the windlass, I don't see
any nuts for the four mounting bolts.
 
Are the nut embedded in the
deck?  I started to turn one of the bolts and didn't
get a good feeling about it.
Duane









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Just saw your message. I read you had to unbolt it, etc. I actually have the instruction.
But even thought the owner manual says to change the oil, since Bill, etc. say it is not necessary to change the oil, then I will keep it as it is...

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:05 PM


 









Alexandre,
There was a discussion on oil pumps
in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small
diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.
I would definitely not unbolt that
beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it
may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt
corroded fast.
Does
anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out
(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the
mounting bolts)??
DuaneWanderer,
SM#477









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Ok then...
One less project...

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 8/16/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:35 PM


 









Duane,
I have helped other owners with this
issue. Most have been exactly as you have
described.
My
recommendation is that you can probably leave it as is, but
be sure you grease it and use a snubber.
I agree on not changing the oil.
There is really no reason to change the oil
because:If there is any slivers of metal
or any other heavy substances in the oil you probably will
not retrieve them by siphoning, and these pieces will
probably do no harm as they will sink to the bottom. There
is no oil pump...just splash-oiling.The windlass is
not an internal combustion engine that will change the oil
by heat.
However, make
sure that there is sufficient oil by using a small stiff
wire through the fill hole to check the oil level. If you
overfill it, you will likely get some minor seepage at the
axle seals. I find it impossible to use the sight glass to
determine the level, but use the wire to ensure that the
level is at the sight glass.

BillBeBe
387
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at
10:18 AM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 











FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about
changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.
 They did recommend greasing cone but advised against
oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this
advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.
 


Ben and GayleLa Bella
Vita SM #347Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On
Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:
 









Alexandre,
There was a discussion on oil pumps
in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small
diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.
I would definitely not unbolt that
beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it
may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt
corroded fast.
Does
anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out
(i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the
mounting bolts)??
DuaneWanderer,
SM#477










































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

I have helped other owners with this issue. Most have been exactly as you have described.

My recommendation is that you can probably leave it as is, but be sure you grease it and use a snubber.

I agree on not changing the oil. There is really no reason to change the oil because:
  • If there is any slivers of metal or any other heavy substances in the oil you probably will not retrieve them by siphoning, and these pieces will probably do no harm as they will sink to the bottom. There is no oil pump...just splash-oiling.
  • The windlass is not an internal combustion engine that will change the oil by heat.
However, make sure that there is sufficient oil by using a small stiff wire through the fill hole to check the oil level. If you overfill it, you will likely get some minor seepage at the axle seals. I find it impossible to use the sight glass to determine the level, but use the wire to ensure that the level is at the sight glass.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.  They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

FYI.  I inquired to Amel Marin about changing Lofrans oil.  They recommended against it.  They did recommend greasing cone but advised against oil change saying it wasn't necessary.  I Got this advise from their head maintenance man in May this year.  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:05 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]

 

Alexandre,


There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Duane Siegfri
 

By the way, I'm thinking of leaving the inner clutch cone as is and just clean up the clutch surfaces and grease them.  If the inner clutch cone is jammed into place by that key, I can't see the downside to leaving it that way.  Any thoughts of why that's a problem?

Thanks,
Duane


Re: Lofrans Winch Mounting

Duane Siegfri
 

Alexandre,

There was a discussion on oil pumps in the past few months, and one commentor noted a small diameter hose was good for the Lofrans.

I would definitely not unbolt that beast if it wasn't necessary.  Lots of wiring and it may be that there is an embedded plate with the bolt corroded fast.

Does anyone know if the mounting bolts can be just turned out (i.e. is there an embedded plate below the winch for the mounting bolts)??

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents

Mike Johnson
 

Hi,

We connected ours to junction box where the shore enters the engine room prior to the shore power/generator change over switch (first point of connection to any system).

Then installed the galvanic isolator in the galley starboard of the autopilot.  Pictures in the library. Seems to work well.

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM2K 461




On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:49 PM +0200, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

You probably already trace the wires.
I just did it for the installation of the Galvanic Isolator and trace from the shore power to the inverter then back to the box where select 220 Volt from 220 Volt Shore power -or- 220 Volt from 110 Volt Shore power.

You might like part 1 and 2
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

Do you have a 110 Volt plug at the end of your 2nd shore power cord?
Mine is not terminated, another project of mine!!!

Sincerely, Alexandre.

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/16/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:40 AM


 









Alexandre,
Thanks!  That confirms what I
already thought I knew, very helpful.
That optional equipment manual is
one I haven’t seen.  It answers a few questions I had had
about other things too!

Bill KinneySM #160, HarmonieNarragansett Bay, RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net






On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:29,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:
On the Optional Equipment (.pdf
21.1 mb)
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf

All it says section (7-16 or page
7/28) is 6000 Watt.  
Also recommend to
never obstruct the air unless on each side.  

This is another project of mine
(to test it).  

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San
Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon,
8/15/16, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]

wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Transformer Information/Documents
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, August
15, 2016, 1:48 PM


 









The only piece of equipment I
have
found
lacking documentation in our boat's files has been
the transformer.
Does anybody has any details about it?  I
wasn't able to get anything
on this older model from the
Scheiber website.
Here is the contents of the
label:
Auto
TransformateurP.  110/230  HZ
50/60S.
________
Ph. _______Puis.
6300Type  ATP   No
_______












SCHEIBER S.A.  85120
Here is what I think
I know, please
feel free to correct any
misunderstanding.This transformer will convert
110V up to 230V OR
230V down to 110V, depending on which
side is energized.
It is rated for
6300
Watts.That's about it!
 Anything else
important to know?
Bill KinneyHarmonie,
SM#160Narraganset Bay, RI











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Bill,

You probably already trace the wires.
I just did it for the installation of the Galvanic Isolator and trace from the shore power to the inverter then back to the box where select 220 Volt from 220 Volt Shore power -or- 220 Volt from 110 Volt Shore power.

You might like part 1 and 2
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

Do you have a 110 Volt plug at the end of your 2nd shore power cord?
Mine is not terminated, another project of mine!!!

Sincerely, Alexandre.





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On Tue, 8/16/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 11:40 AM


 









Alexandre,
Thanks!  That confirms what I
already thought I knew, very helpful.
That optional equipment manual is
one I haven’t seen.  It answers a few questions I had had
about other things too!

Bill KinneySM #160, HarmonieNarragansett Bay, RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net






On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:29,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
On the Optional Equipment (.pdf
21.1 mb)
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf

All it says section (7-16 or page
7/28) is 6000 Watt.  
Also recommend to
never obstruct the air unless on each side.  

This is another project of mine
(to test it).  

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San
Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon,
8/15/16, greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Transformer Information/Documents
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August
15, 2016, 1:48 PM


 









The only piece of equipment I
have
found
lacking documentation in our boat's files has been
the transformer.
Does anybody has any details about it?  I
wasn't able to get anything
on this older model from the
Scheiber website.
Here is the contents of the
label:
Auto
TransformateurP.  110/230  HZ
50/60S.
________
Ph. _______Puis.
6300Type  ATP   No
_______












SCHEIBER S.A.  85120
Here is what I think
I know, please
feel free to correct any
misunderstanding.This transformer will convert
110V up to 230V OR
230V down to 110V, depending on which
side is energized.
It is rated for
6300
Watts.That's about it!
 Anything else
important to know?
Bill KinneyHarmonie,
SM#160Narraganset Bay, RI











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Alexandre,

Thanks!  That confirms what I already thought I knew, very helpful.

That optional equipment manual is one I haven’t seen.  It answers a few questions I had had about other things too!

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Narragansett Bay, RI
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:29, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

On the Optional Equipment (.pdf 21.1 mb)
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf

All it says section (7-16 or page 7/28) is 6000 Watt.  
Also recommend to never obstruct the air unless on each side.  

This is another project of mine (to test it).  

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 8/15/16, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, August 15, 2016, 1:48 PM


 









The only piece of equipment I have
found lacking documentation in our boat's files has been
the transformer. Does anybody has any details about it?  I
wasn't able to get anything on this older model from the
Scheiber website.
Here is the contents of the
label:
Auto
TransformateurP.  110/230  HZ 50/60S.
________ Ph. _______Puis.
6300Type  ATP   No
_______












SCHEIBER S.A.  85120
Here is what I think I know, please
feel free to correct any misunderstanding.This transformer will convert
110V up to 230V OR 230V down to 110V, depending on which
side is energized.
It is rated for 6300
Watts.That's about it!  Anything else
important to know?
Bill KinneyHarmonie, SM#160Narraganset Bay, RI











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

On the Optional Equipment (.pdf 21.1 mb)
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf

All it says section (7-16 or page 7/28) is 6000 Watt.
Also recommend to never obstruct the air unless on each side.

This is another project of mine (to test it).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 8/15/16, greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transformer Information/Documents
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 15, 2016, 1:48 PM


 









The only piece of equipment I have
found lacking documentation in our boat's files has been
the transformer. Does anybody has any details about it?  I
wasn't able to get anything on this older model from the
Scheiber website.
Here is the contents of the
label:
Auto
TransformateurP.  110/230  HZ 50/60S.
________ Ph. _______Puis.
6300Type  ATP   No
_______












SCHEIBER S.A.  85120
Here is what I think I know, please
feel free to correct any misunderstanding.This transformer will convert
110V up to 230V OR 230V down to 110V, depending on which
side is energized.
It is rated for 6300
Watts.That's about it!  Anything else
important to know?
Bill KinneyHarmonie, SM#160Narraganset Bay, RI











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[Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

For the new owners like myself who are intimidated by the installation of new equipment, I illustrated the “installation of the Galvanic Isolator”.

This also helped me to understand better some of the electrical system (up to a point).

This might look a little different than your own installation as I have the optional 110 to 220 volt transformer in the engine room.

Would love to hear back from Olivier and other to make sure it is correct!

Here is the link: 
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

For low bandwidth user, the document is split in 4 sections.

If bandwidth is not an issue, there is also the full version (49 pictures). 


Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Winch Mounting

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Duane,

I feel now terrible to have inspired you to service the windlass…

Here are pictures of used spare parts that came with the boat.
You can see the space for the key bent as well as inner and outer gipsy bent.

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_used_parts.html

I throw these away but purchase a spare of each (which is probably not necessary).

One of my next project is to change the oil of the windlass (and I understood it needs to be unbolted), so if you can take pictures..

Good luck…

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Tue, 8/16/16, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Winch Mounting
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 10:05 AM


 









I've been trying to remove the
inner clutch cone without success.  The key is binding in
the clutch cone key-slot.  (picture the clutch cone slot at
11:00, the drive shaft slot at noon, and the key tipped to
stay in both slots).  
I tried using a bearing
splitter, which is the only puller that can be gotten
between the clutch cone and the aluminum casing, and the
puller then pushes against the drive shaft.  It bent the
edge of the clutch cone but did not move one
bit.
I decided to remove the
winch and send it to Lofrans for repair.  Looking in the
chain locker, directly below the windlass, I don't see
any nuts for the four mounting bolts.
 
Are the nut embedded in the
deck?  I started to turn one of the bolts and didn't
get a good feeling about it.
Duane









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Re: Explanation of Bonding System

Duane Siegfri
 

Ian,

When you're back in Brunswick let me know, we're on dock 14 in BLM.

First, I'm not an expert in bonding systems.  But here is what I understand.

If you connect different metals together with a conductor, one will corrode (the anode and less noble metal), and the other will not (cathode and more noble metal).  

Seawater will conduct electricity.  

When seawater is in contact with different metals (say a stainless steel pump impeller and a bronze seacock) one of these is less noble and will corrode (the anode).  Zinc is more anodic than the other metals on your boat.  By connecting all the metals that are in contact with seawater, and then connecting that wire to the zinc anode on the rudder, the zinc will corrode and protect the other metals in contact with seawater.

This is a form of "cathodic protection", check wikipedia for a more detailed explanation of cathodic protection.  This is an electro-chemical reaction.

Duane
Wanderer, SM #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Winch Mounting

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

Apparently that guy has not worked at Lofrans very long, because it is a very common problem when people either tighten the wing nut very tight and don't use a snubber, or they do not believe that the cone-to-gypsy connection should be greased.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:26 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'm sure that's the reason Bill.  I called Lofrans this morning and the guy I talked to said he had never heard of the key binding before!


Duane