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Re: Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?
Ian, thank you, good to know the response level you used , we just changed our course computer to the S3G, the earlier one only had three levels not to much to choose but now 9 levels.
Paul
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?
Thank you Bill!
That trigger an other question, What canvas did you use at that condition? We made very good speed at 30 knots of wind with half the Genua pooled out, but I guess it difficult to have it further furled I got the impression that the top will "fall" out and flog a lot if further furled: Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Espar d5lc knob broke..replacement?
I bought one last year Alex. Not on the boat, so can't tell you where or part number. I'll see if I can find it and let you know. Having 5th eye surgery today, so might be a few days. Kent SM243
On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Espar d5lc knob broke..replacement?
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good afternoon,
The knob of my Espar (D5LC) broke… Does any one as a source for spare parts? Picture: http://nikimat.com/espar_d5lc/espar_d5lc_knob.jpg Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Paul, When in the Indian Ocean Bay of Bengal we encountered a Cyclone with 50ish knots and about 7 meter waves. It's a long story, but we ran with this cyclone in an anti-clockwise direction for 5 days with the linear pilot. It operated fine. I prefer the linear because the rotary is noisier and because the linear seems to be quicker. Bill Rouse
On Aug 26, 2016 7:50 AM, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?
Ian Park
I don't have any technical knowledge, just my personal experience. My previous boat had a Raymarine linear drive on the quadrant. It performed well, but after 10 years needed refurbishment of the heavily worn gears. The boat weighed 7 tons on a semi balanced rudder.
Our Santorin, same as the SM, does not have a balanced rudder and weighs in at just over 15 tons. The steering is very light (quite a high gearing and consequently not much 'feel' to the wheel), so is very easy to turn in heavy seas etc. I only have the Raymarine rotary drive, plus a spare drive unit which I can swap in 10 minutes (and a Hydrovane). The chain drive can be noisy, but on off wind sailing in a small sea we can put the response level down to 1 or 2 (on a 9 point scale). Otherwise it tends to stay on 3, sometimes 4. In heavy seas going downwind we have to turn the response rate up to 6 or 7. I know people find the chain drive noisy and have a switched linear drive to a linear one on the quadrant (which can be noisy fir someone off watch I the aft cabin. I am guessing from my comments that there is less pressure on the linear drive system because of the easy steering gearing. So it may come down more to the noise factor on extended passages whether you choose just one or both versions. The backup, however, is very reassuring. I don't mind being kept awake at the wheel on night watch and on our Santorin we always sleep in the calm of the aft cabin!! Others will have better technical advice. Good luck! Ian Ocean Hobo. SN96
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Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?
Last trip we had was in 30-40 knots of tail wind and not to large following sea. The autopilot had to work a lot to keep the course, but it copped very well. My thought was, which system is more robust the rotary- or the linear drive? good to know when we in the future might encounter more severe weather Before purchasing our Amel SM we inspected a few SM and one owner which I believe had great experience claimed that he use the rotary drive in tougher conditions, as he once broke the connection between the Linear drive and rudder "wheel/quadrant" He thought that was stronger. Anyone has a opinion/knowledge about this? Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya Bilge Pump
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Very recently this gear was available from SAV"at"Amel.fr and from Emek Marine in Turkey cagdas"at"emekmarin.com Bill Rouse
On Aug 25, 2016 10:09 PM, "seagasm@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bottom Paint SeaHawk's Island44
As of two years ago, SeaHawk's Island44, their tin based paint, was still legal in the US for boats over 75 ft LOA. Like Ric said, many if not most commercial ships use this or similar tin based paints, as does the US Navy. It's not illegal to buy it in the US, but it is illegal to put it on a boat less than 75ft long. I painted Kristy's bottom with this in Trinidad several years ago. It lasted 4 1/2 + years in difficult conditions (brackish water in 6-8 ft tidal flow). Unfortunately I was given bad information by a vendor when it was time to repaint. Nothing sticks to this paint but more Island 44! If you're going to put something else over it, you have to strip it chemically in an enclosed space, and dispose of residue in a lined landfill. It is a great paint and is available in most of the world. When it is time for me to repaint, I will use it again, and I'll buy enough to repaint again. That should give me close to ten years of a trouble-free bottom. Kent Robertson 828-234-6819 voice/text
On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:09 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Have a read of this : Sea Hawk Paints executives get prison terms in banned-coating case
Tin based paints are banned nearly everywhere in the world, for good reason. I wouldn't trust this company at all. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437..still in Koumac Whoa, Seahawk in Fl still making great paint. Some tin paints like Seahawk 44 is Only sold outside the USA. It has lasted 4 years in the islands (hauled 4 months/yr). Works in Annapolis (brackish) too. Now on second yr expect 2 more. used 2 coats, third at waterline. Most yards here avoid sanding due to regulations, Don't! Guess what the Navy uses. Bali Hai SN 24 Annapolis Ric Gottschalk Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc Office 410-923-5800 Fax 410-923-5802
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Re: Leroy Somer Outhaul motor
Walter
Hi Alan,
sounds good. Going backward and forward and turning an bit and remember the number of turns - if there is a tie and you try pulling both cables from their motor side you might see it/something where the lower/outhaul cable comes out. Good luck, Walter (Noa SM2K 436)
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Re: Leroy Somer Outhaul motor
Thanks Walter,
OK, I'll try that and see if I can get the cable out. I've managed to pry the brush holder out of the plastic holder on deck, and I used silver solder flux and silver solder to solder the cable to the brush holder, after cleaning everything with a small wire brush...it's working for the moment but I've just ordered a new motor from Maude and I'll keep the old one as a spare just in case. If I can't get the cable out I thought I would just cut it and use a pair of heavy duty crimp connectors to connect the new motor to the existing cable...life seems to always be a compromise. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Reya Bilge Pump
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
Well, it sounds like the same white gear that broke on our AMFA (note, not-Reya) bilge pump. Amel sent us a replacement gear for €129.35, ex-VAT, plus shipping, a couple of years ago.
Cheerio, ---In amelyachtowners@..., <seagasm@...> wrote : Yes, the motor turns a spiral pinion geared to drive the gear wheel, bit like a differential. The gear wheel has a plastic or neoprene ring gear pressed onto the alluminium gear wheel, like the ring gear of a flywheel. The gearwheel operates a piston lever that operates the pump diaphram to pump the bilge. It is the plastic/neoprene ring gear that has broken and the ring gear is slipping around the gear wheel that operates the lever action for the diaphram. Hope that makes sense. I sent another email to Reya but have had no reply. Pity these French sites don't translate to English, especially when they manufacture to distribute world wide. Thank you for your interest. Kind Regards Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM 171
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Re: Leroy Somer Outhaul motor
Walter
Hi Alan,
I took the outhaul motor and gearbox apart last year, refurbished the motor and got a new gearbox. No problem with the cables - maybe yours are wrapped around each other by coincidence and you are able to unwrapp them carefully trying this way and the other where they appear in the forward head. The Leroy Somer technician insisted that the cable has to be hard-soldered to the brush holder connection. This cannot be done when the brass brush-holder is in place, but it can be slipped out of its plastic housing. Then you can hard solder (I used silver) and slip it in again. But hard soldering can´t be done nicely on the deck of the boat, so you are back to getting the cable out. The plastic housing of the brush holder and it´s brass inner part is standard equipment for electric motors. Kind regards, Walter (Noa, SM2K 436)
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Re: Reya Bilge Pump
seagasm@...
Yes, the motor turns a spiral pinion geared to drive the gear wheel, bit like a differential. The gear wheel has a plastic or neoprene ring gear pressed onto the alluminium gear wheel, like the ring gear of a flywheel. The gearwheel operates a piston lever that operates the pump diaphram to pump the bilge. It is the plastic/neoprene ring gear that has broken and the ring gear is slipping around the gear wheel that operates the lever action for the diaphram. Hope that makes sense. I sent another email to Reya but have had no reply. Pity these French sites don't translate to English, especially when they manufacture to distribute world wide.
Thank you for your interest. Kind Regards Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM 171
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Leroy Somer Outhaul motor
I have had serious problems with the outhaul motor. It has been previously repaired and the wire/ brush holder connection is not good. I've previously taken it apart on deck to resolder the wires as the cable is long enough just to have it sit on a box at the mast foot. I tried to take the outhaul motor completely off the other day. Getting it off the gearbox is no issue, but the cable won't come out of the mast..it seems that the furling motor cable and the outhaul motor cable are tied together inside the mast..if I pull on one cable the other one moves with it even though I have the outhaul motor disconnected from the solenoid in the fwd head. Does anyone have any advice on how to remove the cable from the mast ? Thanks Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Reya Bilge Pump
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
Hello, is this the gear that turns the rotary action of the motor into the pistoning action the pump needs?
Regards, Peregrinus SM2K #350 At anchor, Olbia ---In amelyachtowners@..., <seagasm@...> wrote : I have discovered the nylon gear cog on the main bilge pump has broken. This causes the gear to slip when engaged. Ideally I would ike to replace this gear wheel however, I am not getting any response from Reya and there does not seem to be any information in the "Files" folder on pumps. Does anyone have a contact at Reya or otherwise please? Thank you. Kind Regards Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM #171
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bottom Paint time
Have a read of this : Sea Hawk Paints executives get prison terms in banned-coating case
Tin based paints are banned nearly everywhere in the world, for good reason. I wouldn't trust this company at all. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437..still in Koumac Whoa, Seahawk in Fl still making great paint. Some tin paints like Seahawk 44 is Only sold outside the USA. It has lasted 4 years in the islands (hauled 4 months/yr). Works in Annapolis (brackish) too. Now on second yr expect 2 more. used 2 coats, third at waterline. Most yards here avoid sanding due to regulations, Don't! Guess what the Navy uses. Bali Hai SN 24 Annapolis Ric Gottschalk Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc Office 410-923-5800 Fax 410-923-5802
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Reya Bilge Pump
seagasm@...
I have discovered the nylon gear cog on the main bilge pump has broken. This causes the gear to slip when engaged. Ideally I would ike to replace this gear wheel however, I am not getting any response from Reya and there does not seem to be any information in the "Files" folder on pumps. Does anyone have a contact at Reya or otherwise please? Thank you. Kind Regards Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM #171
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Re: Bottom Paint time
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
We've had Seahawk Cukote (Brown - 3432) since September 2012. Two coats plus a bit of reinforcement at the waterline. Lasted in quite nice condition until February 2015, when two additional coats were applied, and here we are, 18 months later, and the paint is quite alright, but not as nice.
I find that this paint benefits from having a diver wipe the hull at least once every six months. I haven't yet started researching what are we going to do when we next haul out. Is this product available in Europe/Turkey? Cheerio, Peregrinus SM2K #350 (2002) At anchor, Olbia (Sardinia) ---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailor63109@...> wrote : I'd like your opinion on how many coats of bottom paint to use. We plan on heading into the eastern Caribbean on November 1 and we plan on pulling the boat now for bottom paint, C-Drive, prop and bow thruster maintenance. I hadn't thought about more than one coat, but it is something the marine center offers so I wondered... A little history: In Feb 2015 my boat had a bottom job that included sanding to remove all for a start-over on the bottom, 1 coat of Seahawk Tuff Stuff Barrier Coat, fairing, and then 3 coats of Seahawk Tuff Stuff Barrier Coat and two coats of Seahawk CuKote bottom paint. Seaawk CuKote is advertised as a multi-season paint. Based on two coats 18 months ago I'm thinking one coat now would set me up for at least a year or more. I'm assuming when we pull the boat all is well with the bottom. Would your experience dictate more than one coat? Duane SM#477 Wanderer
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Capacity AMFA Bilge Pump???
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
The AMFA 66B is a fresh water pump. Bill Rouse
On Aug 25, 2016 8:14 AM, "jsrogers@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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