Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Thank you Erik,
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I think I found it: http://www.boatzincs.com/corrosion-reference-electrode-specs.html Do you use it yourself? Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/30/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 12:44 PM The silver electrode is available from boatzincs.com it is about $120- US. Fair WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:34 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Alexandre, The number 900 refers to potential, which is also measured using a multi meter , but you also have to have a silver cathode , expensive. It would probably be best for you to have a marine electrician perform that measurement if you are not familiar with multi meters . It would not take them but a few minutes. Just measuring that you have continuity , you would just listen for the beep , the number will also change from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0 ,I cannot remember , just listen for the beep.Pat SM123 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 11:39 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, The way you describe it sounds very simple… at the next haul it will do that and you mentioned the number should be 900 (?) Do you have to check several items? quadrant then ground copper strap in the bilge or 1 is enough? Thanks again. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11 AM Alexandre, Its pretty simple, take a wire and clip it onto the quadrant where the ground wires connect , or to the copper ground strap in the bilge , then connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , say the black lead and then place the red lead on the zincs on your rudder . You of course have to set your meter to the continuity setting , its simple , have someone that knows how to use a meter show you or follow instructions provided with your meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep and the numbers change. While its vital that you have continuity , as I have just learned , that does not mean that you have adequate continuity. While you are in the water you can have the potential checked which gives you a better picture of the state of protection. Don't ask me to explain potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it means and could not put it into words. Hope this helps, Pat SM123 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
The silver electrode is available from boatzincs.com it is about $120- US.
Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:34 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre, The number 900 refers to potential, which is also measured using a multi meter , but you also have to have a silver cathode , expensive. It would probably be best for you to have a marine electrician perform that measurement if you are not familiar with multi meters . It would not take them but a few minutes. Just measuring that you have continuity , you would just listen for the beep , the number will also change from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0 ,I cannot remember , just listen for the beep. Pat SM123 -----Original Message-----
Good morning Pat,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Hi Pat, So what is the bilge ground strap connected to? I suppose the iron keel? Should we be looking at the continuity between the keel and the zincs? Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, MD
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:41 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre, Sorry I missed the second part of your question. I would check it at the strap in the bilge , that way it also confirms that you have continuity between the strap and the quadrant connection . That's actually what its all about , confirming contact between the ground strap in the bilge and the zincs on your rudder. Pat -----Original Message-----
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Thanks for all the information Pat, including the silver cathode.
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I heard Kent mentioning this, but was not sure of the use. Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 11:41 AM Alexandre, Sorry I missed the second part of your question. I would check it at the strap in the bilge , that way it also confirms that you have continuity between the strap and the quadrant connection . That's actually what its all about , confirming contact between the ground strap in the bilge and the zincs on your rudder. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 11:39 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, The way you describe it sounds very simple… at the next haul it will do that and you mentioned the number should be 900 (?) Do you have to check several items? quadrant then ground copper strap in the bilge or 1 is enough? Thanks again. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11 AM Alexandre, Its pretty simple, take a wire and clip it onto the quadrant where the ground wires connect , or to the copper ground strap in the bilge , then connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , say the black lead and then place the red lead on the zincs on your rudder . You of course have to set your meter to the continuity setting , its simple , have someone that knows how to use a meter show you or follow instructions provided with your meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep and the numbers change. While its vital that you have continuity , as I have just learned , that does not mean that you have adequate continuity. While you are in the water you can have the potential checked which gives you a better picture of the state of protection. Don't ask me to explain potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it means and could not put it into words. Hope this helps, Pat SM123 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Patrick McAneny
Alexandre, Sorry I missed the second part of your question. I would check it at the strap in the bilge , that way it also confirms that you have continuity between the strap and the quadrant connection . That's actually what its all about , confirming contact between the ground strap in the bilge and the zincs on your rudder.
Pat
-----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 11:39 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat,
The way you describe it sounds very simple… at the next haul it will do that and you mentioned the number should be 900 (?) Do you have to check several items? quadrant then ground copper strap in the bilge or 1 is enough? Thanks again. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11 AM Alexandre, Its pretty simple, take a wire and clip it onto the quadrant where the ground wires connect , or to the copper ground strap in the bilge , then connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , say the black lead and then place the red lead on the zincs on your rudder . You of course have to set your meter to the continuity setting , its simple , have someone that knows how to use a meter show you or follow instructions provided with your meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep and the numbers change. While its vital that you have continuity , as I have just learned , that does not mean that you have adequate continuity. While you are in the water you can have the potential checked which gives you a better picture of the state of protection. Don't ask me to explain potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it means and could not put it into words. Hope this helps, Pat SM123 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Patrick McAneny
Alexandre, The number 900 refers to potential, which is also measured using a multi meter , but you also have to have a silver cathode , expensive. It would probably be best for you to have a marine electrician perform that measurement if you are not familiar with multi meters . It would not take them but a few minutes. Just measuring that you have continuity , you would just listen for the beep , the number will also change from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0 ,I cannot remember , just listen for the beep.
Pat SM123
-----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 11:39 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat,
The way you describe it sounds very simple… at the next haul it will do that and you mentioned the number should be 900 (?) Do you have to check several items? quadrant then ground copper strap in the bilge or 1 is enough? Thanks again. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11 AM Alexandre, Its pretty simple, take a wire and clip it onto the quadrant where the ground wires connect , or to the copper ground strap in the bilge , then connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , say the black lead and then place the red lead on the zincs on your rudder . You of course have to set your meter to the continuity setting , its simple , have someone that knows how to use a meter show you or follow instructions provided with your meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep and the numbers change. While its vital that you have continuity , as I have just learned , that does not mean that you have adequate continuity. While you are in the water you can have the potential checked which gives you a better picture of the state of protection. Don't ask me to explain potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it means and could not put it into words. Hope this helps, Pat SM123 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Pat,
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The way you describe it sounds very simple… at the next haul it will do that and you mentioned the number should be 900 (?) Do you have to check several items? quadrant then ground copper strap in the bilge or 1 is enough? Thanks again. Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11 AM Alexandre, Its pretty simple, take a wire and clip it onto the quadrant where the ground wires connect , or to the copper ground strap in the bilge , then connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , say the black lead and then place the red lead on the zincs on your rudder . You of course have to set your meter to the continuity setting , its simple , have someone that knows how to use a meter show you or follow instructions provided with your meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep and the numbers change. While its vital that you have continuity , as I have just learned , that does not mean that you have adequate continuity. While you are in the water you can have the potential checked which gives you a better picture of the state of protection. Don't ask me to explain potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it means and could not put it into words. Hope this helps, Pat SM123 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat, Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Patrick McAneny
Alexandre, Its pretty simple, take a wire and clip it onto the quadrant where the ground wires connect , or to the copper ground strap in the bilge , then connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , say the black lead and then place the red lead on the zincs on your rudder . You of course have to set your meter to the continuity setting , its simple , have someone that knows how to use a meter show you or follow instructions provided with your meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep and the numbers change. While its vital that you have continuity , as I have just learned , that does not mean that you have adequate continuity. While you are in the water you can have the potential checked which gives you a better picture of the state of protection. Don't ask me to explain potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it means and could not put it into words.
Hope this helps,
Pat SM123
-----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity Good morning Pat,
Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: Reya Bilge Pump
Hi Barry and Robyn,
This is an easy DIY fix. See my posts on the subject. It was several years ago and the pump is still going strong . Basically you'll drill 3 or 4 small holes through the gear ring into the center disc and insert small nails (or just break off the drill bit leaving the broken part in place). Space the pins evenly around the perimeter. Good luck with it. Craig Briggs Sn68 Sangaris
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] alternator-to-battery charger
Andrew & Kate Lamb
I installed the Universal Advanced Digital Alternator Regulator Pro Reg DW (waterproof) PDARW a couple of years ago and wrote this up and published it on the forum in the documents area. The regulator has worked so far well and supports AGM batteries. The separate remote control however stopped working within a few months and is not very good quality so I would not recommend that.
Andrew Ronpische SM472 Canet en Roussillon
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"amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Good morning Bill, the product is alternator-to-battery-chargers up to 130A or up 400A in http://www.sterling-power.com
or USA Location information - USA.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Pat,
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Thanks for sharing the information. Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you measure the continuity… I hate to admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the forum and the owner manual. And will definitely want to do it next year. But how do you do it? (pictures rather than words would be so nice)… I assume you can only do it on land. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/30/16, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] alternator-to-battery charger
rossienio@...
Good morning Bill, the product is alternator-to-battery-chargers up to 130A or up 400A in http://www.sterling-power.com
or USA Location information - USA.com Regards. Rossienio SN122 Italy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] alternator-to-battery charger
Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
Can you supply a model number or maybe a webpage link to the part you are considering?
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Bill Kinney SM #160, Harmonie Block Island, RI, USA “Ships and men rot in port."
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[Amel Yacht Owners] toggle switch for jabsco 37047-1000 ?
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning,
The toggle switch (bottom switch) of my Jabsco 37045 electric toilet is working intermittently. jabsco part 37047-1000 is for the whole switch (and doesn't seem to be available). I just need to replace the toggle switch (bottom black switch). Any part number or advice? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico
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Degraded continuity
Patrick McAneny
Before my boat went into back into the water yesterday , I checked for continuity between the copper strap and the zincs and I did have continuity. Later , I had two marine electricians on the boat and they checked the potential from the quadrant and found it to be only 560 , they tell me that they would expect to see about 900. 900 would insure that the zincs are protecting the metal parts of the boat. We can only speculate that the connection between the quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded . There may not be enough contact between the zinc bolt and the strap inside the rudder , it would only be the threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and stainless is not the best metal as a conductor . Bottom line is that I need more zinc protection/contact. They suggested that we install a large zinc on the hull with two bronze bolts ( better conductivity )through the hull , wired directly to the strap in the bilge. I am writing this to inform the group , that just because you have continuity , does not mean that you have adequate contact/protection. Pat SM123
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] alternator-to-battery charger
rossienio@...
Good morning Ian, no problem at all, indeed thank you for your clarification, that, from now, I will use for ever. I need to charge AGM batteries but the engine alternator does not seem to haldle them. The problem would be solved by Sterling product specified in the object. But I do not know if this item is compatible with electrical system of santorin, which I think,there is similar to that of SM. Regards
Enio Rossi Santorin 122 Earendil Italy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] alternator-to-battery charger
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Rossienio, Forgive me if I sound pedantic, but not all Amel boats are the same. For that reason when messages are posted on this site there is a very useful custom of adding your name, boat name, what model Amel it is, what number and where your boat is located. You might be surprised to see how much easier it is to get an answer by adding that information.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of rossienio@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 30 August 2016 10:03:16 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] alternator-to-battery charger Good morning to all of you. Someone knows this item, multistate split-charge of Sterling-power and know if it is suitable for Amel boats?
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alternator-to-battery charger
rossienio@...
Good morning to all of you. Someone knows this item, multistate split-charge of Sterling-power and know if it is suitable for Amel boats?
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] You can use a 50 amp USA plug on a 30 amp cable.
Bill <greatketch@...>
Tom, Most (all?) SMs have a 32 amp breaker that will prevent drawing more than that into the AC system. If you turn EVERYTHING on, you can exceed that, but then the onboard breaker trips. That's why I wrote about that being the max draw for a normal system. Without some significant rewiring, SMs are pretty much limited to 16 Amp draw from dockside at 220 volts. I haven't felt limited by that much at the dock power, but I only have two AC units, and don't spend a lot of time tied to docks anyway. Does anybody know if any were built with a higher capacity shore power system? Bill Kinney
On Aug 29, 2016, at 17:06, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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