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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

As you may know the B&G Hydro 2000 can measure voltage.  And my 2000 inputs into Zeus II which has alarms set to 23 and 29 volts.  I often trip low voltage alarm when using the bow thruster.  However, on two occasions I tripped high voltage - 29 volts - momentarily. The generator was running and charger operating.  Perhaps this occasional higher voltage can shorten bulb life?  But so far only one bulb - the anchor light - is short-lived.  It makes me think it must be the fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

karkauai
 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

karkauai
 

Some newer chargers have an automatic equalizing cycle that kicks in after the absorption phase. I have that turned off on Christie because I want to be able to turn off all 24 V equipment before equalizing.

Kent
SM243
Kristy

On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I know that when I start my battery chargers (genset or shore), the voltage goes much higher.
I actually stop the 24 volt fan until the voltage stabilize.

Did you measure how many volt you are getting?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

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On Wed, 9/7/16, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 3:28 PM


 









Thanks Alan. I'm inclined to agree;
that is, it is most probably an issue with masthead lamp
holder.  My charger has manual equalization which has not
been used; settings are appropriate for my battery type.
  
Ben DriverLa Bella VitaSM
#347
Sent from my
iPad
On Sep 7, 2016,
at 1:14 PM, divanz620@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






No I don't think so....you can't get
voltage surges with a big battery bank.IF it could
possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with
lamps and other 24VDC devices.The ONLY way you
MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the
EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead
light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to
around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would
rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that
you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about
equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off
anything on the DC circuit before starting to do
it.Its much more likely that you have bad
connections, salt water ingress into the lamp
holder.....CheersAlanElyse
SM437























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM

Alejandro Paquin
 

Dear Alexander,
Many thanks for your email, very interesting thank you. Was this an original Amel installation on your boat?
One question, I don´t see a breathing (venting) valve on either loops. Can it work that way?
I enjoy very much your very orderly way of describing and documenting your work onboard. Very useful indeed.
Best regards,
Alex Paquin

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar [mailto:uster@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Cc: alex.paquin@usa.net
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM

Good afternoon Alex,

Here is a picture of the anti- siphon on my vessel, I have the Volvo TMD 22 P http://www.nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses_4.jpg
Don’t look at the arrows, they are for something else.
The BIG black hose is the exhaust.
Behind it is a yellow/black hose going to the top of the picture to a metallic half circle, that is the anti- siphon.

I will also sent you directly via email a page of the SM2K Owner Manual showing the Yanmar anti- siphon.
Let me know if you receive it.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 2:32 PM












Good
afternoon, does anyone have
images or a diagram of an anti- siphon installation on the raw water side of the engine cooling system? I am considering this step in addition to a few others to avoid water backing into the engine exhaust system on the Yanmar 4JH4-HTE (repowered) on our Older Maramu.
Alex PaquinSIMPATICOOlder Maramu Hull #94,
1981
















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I know that when I start my battery chargers (genset or shore), the voltage goes much higher.
I actually stop the 24 volt fan until the voltage stabilize.

Did you measure how many volt you are getting?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 9/7/16, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 3:28 PM


 









Thanks Alan. I'm inclined to agree;
that is, it is most probably an issue with masthead lamp
holder.  My charger has manual equalization which has not
been used; settings are appropriate for my battery type.
  
Ben DriverLa Bella VitaSM
#347
Sent from my
iPad
On Sep 7, 2016,
at 1:14 PM, divanz620@yahoo.fr
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






No I don't think so....you can't get
voltage surges with a big battery bank.IF it could
possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with
lamps and other 24VDC devices.The ONLY way you
MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the
EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead
light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to
around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would
rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that
you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about
equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off
anything on the DC circuit before starting to do
it.Its much more likely that you have bad
connections, salt water ingress into the lamp
holder.....CheersAlanElyse
SM437























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Alex,

Here is a picture of the anti- siphon on my vessel, I have the Volvo TMD 22 P
http://www.nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses_4.jpg
Don’t look at the arrows, they are for something else.
The BIG black hose is the exhaust.
Behind it is a yellow/black hose going to the top of the picture to a metallic half circle, that is the anti- siphon.

I will also sent you directly via email a page of the SM2K Owner Manual showing the Yanmar anti- siphon.
Let me know if you receive it.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Wed, 9/7/16, alex.paquin@usa.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 2:32 PM


 









Good
afternoon, does anyone have
images or a diagram of an anti- siphon installation
on the raw water side of the engine cooling system? I am
considering this step in addition to a few others to avoid
water backing into the engine exhaust system on the Yanmar
4JH4-HTE (repowered) on our Older Maramu.
Alex PaquinSIMPATICOOlder Maramu Hull #94,
1981
















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Chain counter

Amel Salvagny
 

I did replace my old chain counter with the latest Quick and it even uses the same sensor as the old one. Absolutely no problem lemon installing a Quick counter.

Best regards
Lars
Yacht Salvagny 
Santorin #79 currently in Denmark



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Emne: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Chain counter

 

The chain counter on our boat had been replaced by a model from Quick.  It's not quite a "drop-in" replacement, but is a nice piece of equipment.

A Quick CHC1202M. Like this:

Bill Kinney
SM#160, Harmonie
Narragansett Bay, RI, USA


On Sep 6, 2016, at 17:22, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pat

Our Chain counter also stopped working I made contact with Pochon who do not make these anymore but can repair them - email is accueilsavlr 'at ' pochon.com

Andrew
Ronpische
SM 472


On 6 Sep 2016, at 23:19, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan, I looked through the Pochon Catalogue , it looked like they are a distributor of thousands of marine products , but I could not find the chain counter.Do you know that they manufacture , rather than just sell ? I figure the Z has to stand for something.
Thanks,
Pat SM 123


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From: divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2016 4:24 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Chain counter

 
They were manufactured by Pochon in France

Pochon S. A.
Avenue Michel CREPEAU78501 
17000 La Rochelle
France
Tel.: +33-546 413 053
Fax: +33-546 505 857
E-Mail:commercial@...
WEB: www.pochon.com
Mr. Didier Dupois

Good luck

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks Alan. I'm inclined to agree; that is, it is most probably an issue with masthead lamp holder.  My charger has manual equalization which has not been used; settings are appropriate for my battery type.   

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 1:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Alan Leslie
 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.
IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I run then generator to charge the batteries when at anchor so I was thinking it possible that the charger is creating too much DC that is somehow getting through that huge stabilizing battery bank to lamp circuit. You think this not possible?  


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 12:53 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

I don't see how you could have a voltage surge when running the generator that would affect the masthead lamps.

The generator produces 220VAC that powers the battery chargers which are connected to your big house bank of batteries. The generator has no other connection to the 24VDC system.
The chargers slowly raise the voltage of the batteries to the absorption voltage which is maintained for a while and then dropped slowly to a stabilised float voltage.
That bank of batteries has to be the biggest voltage stabiliser ever.
Unless there is something seriously wrong with your battery chargers, how can you get a voltage surge?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Alan Leslie
 

I don't see how you could have a voltage surge when running the generator that would affect the masthead lamps.
The generator produces 220VAC that powers the battery chargers which are connected to your big house bank of batteries. The generator has no other connection to the 24VDC system.
The chargers slowly raise the voltage of the batteries to the absorption voltage which is maintained for a while and then dropped slowly to a stabilised float voltage.
That bank of batteries has to be the biggest voltage stabiliser ever.
Unless there is something seriously wrong with your battery chargers, how can you get a voltage surge?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM

Alejandro Paquin
 

Good afternoon, does anyone have images or a diagram of an anti- siphon installation on the raw water side of the engine cooling system? I am considering this step in addition to a few others to avoid water backing into the engine exhaust system on the Yanmar 4JH4-HTE (repowered) on our Older Maramu.


Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Older Maramu Hull #94, 1981


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

When you measure the voltage, measure it at the mast top and at the junction located outside the forward berth behind the Velcro'd panel.

It should be the same. I would guess that the set screws clamping the wire to the fixture might be the source of corrosion issues, rather than the wire. Amel uses some really good wire in the mast that will likely last 25 years or more.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

This failure is anchor light only; only motor running is genset.  My suspicion is voltage surge while generator is running or an issue with fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ben and Gayle,


  That is an odd problem.  It seems that if you were having a large voltage surge that it would affect other bulbs as well.  Could it be that you have a resonant vibration atop the spar when running the engine at a certain RPM’s and the vibration is causing the bulb to fail?  This is just a guess of course.

Best,

James

Sueno, Maramu #220
On Sep 5, 2016, at 12:22 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Since we bought our SM last year (Feb 2015) we've  replaced the anchor light bulb 5 times.  The boat was little used - fewer than 800 hours on engine and generator - and we've  had only the usual maintenance issues which makes this issue most perplexing.  We're trying to determine what could cause premature bulb failures.  I've suspected a bad batch of bulbs; a surge in the electrical when running the generator; or perhaps corroded fitting causing an on/off for the bulb thereby shortening their life. 


Has anyone had a similar experience?  Also it would wonderful to have a source for high quality bulbs.

Thanks
Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita
SM 347
Port Louis, Grenada




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Climma pump non return valve

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ron,

I believe you. But, I strongly believe that the other contributing factor to your experience was some obstruction in the lines to/from the sea chest and manifold, the strainer in the sea chest, or the line from the strainer to the outside of the boat. Did you check all three?
  1. The strainer is easy to visually check
  2. The line from the sea chest has to be removed to check it. See the following photo album
  3. You will need something like what is illustrated in this link to check the line from the strainer to the outside of the boat: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1208267126/lightbox/250648401?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/250648401
You might also look at all of the photos in this photo album

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:12 AM, ronheyselaar@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I had major issues with my desal LP pump not able to supply the HP pump. Checked all systems and eventually found the non return valves of both the anchor wash and AC pumps malfunctioning causing air to be sucked through the pumps into the LP pump. Couldn't believe it at first but all worked fine as long as I run both pumps linked to that manifold. Changed the non return valves and all ok. Ron AMEL 54 #157



Re: Climma pump non return valve

ronheyselaar@...
 

I had major issues with my desal LP pump not able to supply the HP pump. Checked all systems and eventually found the non return valves of both the anchor wash and AC pumps malfunctioning causing air to be sucked through the pumps into the LP pump. Couldn't believe it at first but all worked fine as long as I run both pumps linked to that manifold. Changed the non return valves and all ok. Ron AMEL 54 #157


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Alex,
I normally use Anchor brand incandescent bulbs.  However recently I used an LED from Marine LED Shop.  It failed as well.  I do not have an adjustable voltage stabilizer.  So far only premature bulb failure has been anchor light. I will soon check voltage at masthead. 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 5, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon Ben,

What type of 24 Volt bulb do you use?
LED?

Do you have (adjustable) voltage-stabilizers?

Here are pictures from when I did not what they were.
http://nikimat.com/mast_tricolor_anchor_light_connection.html

Mark (SM #275 Creampuff) told me they were DXE VR200 voltage regulator.

Wish I could help more.

Alexandre

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On Mon, 9/5/16, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 5, 2016, 10:22 AM


 









Since we bought our SM last year (Feb 2015)
we've  replaced the anchor light bulb 5 times.  The
boat was little used - fewer than 800 hours on engine and
generator - and we've  had only the usual maintenance
issues which makes this issue most perplexing.  We're
trying to determine what could cause premature bulb
failures.  I've suspected a bad batch of bulbs; a surge
in the electrical when running the generator; or perhaps
corroded fitting causing an on/off for the bulb thereby
shortening their life. 
Has anyone had a similar experience?
 Also it would wonderful to have a source for high quality
bulbs.
ThanksBen and
GayleLa Bella VitaSM
347Port Louis, Grenada









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Contacting Amel

James Sterling
 

Very helpful, thank you sir.
 


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On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:12 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
James,

Part of your problem is that Amel closes for a month in the summer.

That said, I believe that for best results an email to SAV"at"amel.fr should include the following:
  1. The best and straightforward description of the part(s) that you want to purchase Remember their first language is French, although Maud speaks and writes excellent English.
  2. Your boat's Model and Hull Number
  3. It at all possible, a photo of the part you wish to purchase
  4. I always use the following on the subject line: Parts RFQ BeBe SM #387
  5. When Amel SAV replies to the RFQ (price & availability) I email SAV credit card information.
I usually receive a reply to the RFQ within 2 business days. I think that if you give SAV (Service After Sale) an accurate, clear, and complete description and photo of what you are interested in purchasing, you will receive a prompt response. If not, your email will go to the bottom of the pile.

I would not use terms like, "I think I might..." "...what do you think?"

You should be aware that since owners generally hold Amel responsible for shipments missing in transit, Amel will chose the method of shipment and it will usually be the best and most expensive. You will not have a choice. If you are in the Caribbean, Amel has a service team at Le Marin in Martinique. They stock common parts and can usually get parts for you within a week. The parts are 30% more in Martinique than from La Rochelle, but can be cheaper in the long-run to pick up in Martinique.

Hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Trinidad

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM, jamessterling88@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Can anyone tell me the procedure for ordering parts from Amel?  We've tried for the last month to get a response from them by email to no avail.  They simply don't respond.  There was no particular hurry to justify a phone call but that's next.





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

The stabilizer does sound like a good idea for a lot of reasons.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 5, 2016, at 9:12 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I had a similar problem several years ago when I switch to LED bulbs. It turned out that I needed a voltage stabilizer, which prevents both spikes and drops in voltage. The LED bulbs first came out, they were much more sensitive than they are now two changes in voltage.   Since I installed the stabilizer, I have not had a problem.
Kent 
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Sep 5, 2016, at 10:22 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Since we bought our SM last year (Feb 2015) we've  replaced the anchor light bulb 5 times.  The boat was little used - fewer than 800 hours on engine and generator - and we've  had only the usual maintenance issues which makes this issue most perplexing.  We're trying to determine what could cause premature bulb failures.  I've suspected a bad batch of bulbs; a surge in the electrical when running the generator; or perhaps corroded fitting causing an on/off for the bulb thereby shortening their life. 


Has anyone had a similar experience?  Also it would wonderful to have a source for high quality bulbs.

Thanks
Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita
SM 347
Port Louis, Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

This failure is anchor light only; only motor running is genset.  My suspicion is voltage surge while generator is running or an issue with fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben and Gayle,


  That is an odd problem.  It seems that if you were having a large voltage surge that it would affect other bulbs as well.  Could it be that you have a resonant vibration atop the spar when running the engine at a certain RPM’s and the vibration is causing the bulb to fail?  This is just a guess of course.

Best,

James

Sueno, Maramu #220
On Sep 5, 2016, at 12:22 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Since we bought our SM last year (Feb 2015) we've  replaced the anchor light bulb 5 times.  The boat was little used - fewer than 800 hours on engine and generator - and we've  had only the usual maintenance issues which makes this issue most perplexing.  We're trying to determine what could cause premature bulb failures.  I've suspected a bad batch of bulbs; a surge in the electrical when running the generator; or perhaps corroded fitting causing an on/off for the bulb thereby shortening their life. 


Has anyone had a similar experience?  Also it would wonderful to have a source for high quality bulbs.

Thanks
Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita
SM 347
Port Louis, Grenada



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Contacting Amel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

James,

Part of your problem is that Amel closes for a month in the summer.

That said, I believe that for best results an email to SAV"at"amel.fr should include the following:
  1. The best and straightforward description of the part(s) that you want to purchase Remember their first language is French, although Maud speaks and writes excellent English.
  2. Your boat's Model and Hull Number
  3. It at all possible, a photo of the part you wish to purchase
  4. I always use the following on the subject line: Parts RFQ BeBe SM #387
  5. When Amel SAV replies to the RFQ (price & availability) I email SAV credit card information.
I usually receive a reply to the RFQ within 2 business days. I think that if you give SAV (Service After Sale) an accurate, clear, and complete description and photo of what you are interested in purchasing, you will receive a prompt response. If not, your email will go to the bottom of the pile.

I would not use terms like, "I think I might..." "...what do you think?"

You should be aware that since owners generally hold Amel responsible for shipments missing in transit, Amel will chose the method of shipment and it will usually be the best and most expensive. You will not have a choice. If you are in the Caribbean, Amel has a service team at Le Marin in Martinique. They stock common parts and can usually get parts for you within a week. The parts are 30% more in Martinique than from La Rochelle, but can be cheaper in the long-run to pick up in Martinique.

Hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Trinidad

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM, jamessterling88@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Can anyone tell me the procedure for ordering parts from Amel?  We've tried for the last month to get a response from them by email to no avail.  They simply don't respond.  There was no particular hurry to justify a phone call but that's next.