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Joker Valve

Alan Leslie
 

I never really understood why they called it a "Joker" valve, now I think I know: it is a joke, it doesn't work!

I've replaced this valve in both heads twice now and the bowls still slowly fill with backflow from the pipe to the holding tank.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to stop this, or have i just got a bad batch of valves ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437 

Noumea

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling motor Amel 54

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

That'a really useful Mohammad - thankyou.. Clearly the first thing I have to do is take the inspection cover off and see what's going on. It's not the first motor that's failed on my my 54 due to water ingress......I'll keep everyong posted on this forum with progress.

Best, Tony.



From: "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling motor Amel 54

 
Hello Tony;

On our 54, the staysail furler sounded rough from the time we purchased her. After a few months of cruising, the Genoa furler started sounding the same. When I removed the inspection cover on the furlers water poured out and I noticed that all lubrication had fallen away from the gears.

We contacted Riza of Emek Marin in Turkey (since we were still in Turkey) and he referred a rigger that worked on most Bamars in Turkey. He removed both furlers, dismantled them and found that all bearings had rusted and the seals had failed. He replaced all bearings and seals and belts and reinstalled them. He mentioned that the top seals on the Bamars fail due to drying and water seeps into the furler. He also removed the top plastic cover on the furlers because he said that moisture gets trapped under the plastic and corrodes the aluminum and stainless. They have been running smooth and with out any issues since.

We considered replacing them with the new offer from Bamar and the letter they had sent for Amel owners. However after numerous e-mails (that would come back with a read receipt, so I know they are receiving the e-mails) we never got a response back.

In talking with Olivier, who did the survey for us, he mentioned that the majority of the 54s are sailing with the original furlers without issues. The main thing to remember is that both furlers, especially the Genoa furler, have to be furled under very low loads by making sure the sheets are eased to the point that the Genoa begins to luff before furling. 

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any further info.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: Genoa furling motor Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Tony;

On our 54, the staysail furler sounded rough from the time we purchased her. After a few months of cruising, the Genoa furler started sounding the same. When I removed the inspection cover on the furlers water poured out and I noticed that all lubrication had fallen away from the gears.

We contacted Riza of Emek Marin in Turkey (since we were still in Turkey) and he referred a rigger that worked on most Bamars in Turkey. He removed both furlers, dismantled them and found that all bearings had rusted and the seals had failed. He replaced all bearings and seals and belts and reinstalled them. He mentioned that the top seals on the Bamars fail due to drying and water seeps into the furler. He also removed the top plastic cover on the furlers because he said that moisture gets trapped under the plastic and corrodes the aluminum and stainless. They have been running smooth and with out any issues since.

We considered replacing them with the new offer from Bamar and the letter they had sent for Amel owners. However after numerous e-mails (that would come back with a read receipt, so I know they are receiving the e-mails) we never got a response back.

In talking with Olivier, who did the survey for us, he mentioned that the majority of the 54s are sailing with the original furlers without issues. The main thing to remember is that both furlers, especially the Genoa furler, have to be furled under very low loads by making sure the sheets are eased to the point that the Genoa begins to luff before furling. 

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any further info.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling motor Amel 54

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Thank you all for responding - I didn't know there was a belt inside the motor that could break. I'll try and take it to bits to see if that's the problem.

Best regards, Tony Robinson

PS - Joel - many thanks for your note in particular. I am now in direct contact with Michael. BTW, we met once when I was considering buying a 54 when you had your 54 for sale in Florida. I recall you are from Hinsdale where my ex-wife and kids live. Small world.....



From: "Michael Last lastmd@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling motor Amel 54

 
Tony,
If you email me at lastmd at Aol.com, I will be happy to share my experience with Bamar. I would rather not do this on the open forum.
Best,
Amel 54 #68 2007, Callisto

 Michael Last

On Sep 10, 2016, at 12:00, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Hello everyone.

My genny furler motor - a Balmar - failed yesterday while reefing the genny. I anticipate getting a replacement from either Amel o r Balmar but if this has happened to anyone else and they have comments on repair/replacement I would be grateful to hear.

Regards, Tony Robinson (Catriona R - Amel 54 #102. Currently in Cleopatra Marine, Preveza).


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling motor Amel 54

svcallisto369
 

Tony,
If you email me at lastmd at Aol.com, I will be happy to share my experience with Bamar. I would rather not do this on the open forum.
Best,
Amel 54 #68 2007, Callisto

 Michael Last

On Sep 10, 2016, at 12:00, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 



Hello everyone.

My genny furler motor - a Balmar - failed yesterday while reefing the genny. I anticipate getting a replacement from either Amel o r Balmar but if this has happened to anyone else and they have comments on repair/replacement I would be grateful to hear.

Regards, Tony Robinson (Catriona R - Amel 54 #102. Currently in Cleopatra Marine, Preveza).

Re: Genoa furling motor Amel 54

yahoogroups@...
 



Tony, 

Bamar changed their design from the belt driven model that you have to a gear driven design. There was a falling-out between Amel and Bamar over the failures of the model you have, so Amel to Bamar may not be the best route. Maybe someone who has done this can comment. 

Look in the Files Section and you will find a letter from Bamar regarding an upgrade offer for Amel owners. That offer is expired, but I think they will honor it. Start with that in making decisions. 

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling motor Amel 54

Patrick McAneny
 

Tony, Before spending the money and time buying a replacement , take the motor to a repair shop. Most any problem with a motor can be quickly and cheaply repaired. Before removing the motor , determine that there is adequate power getting to the motor. It could be a simply fix, switch , relay or corrosion .
Pat SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 6:04 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling motor Amel 54

 


Hello everyone.

My genny furler motor - a Balmar - failed yesterday while reefing the genny. I anticipate getting a replacement from either Amel o r Balmar but if this has happened to anyone else and they have comments on repair/replacement I would be grateful to hear.

Regards, Tony Robinson (Catriona R - Amel 54 #102. Currently in Cleopatra Marine, Preveza).

Genoa furling motor Amel 54

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 



Hello everyone.

My genny furler motor - a Balmar - failed yesterday while reefing the genny. I anticipate getting a replacement from either Amel or Balmar but if this has happened to anyone else and they have comments on repair/replacement I would be grateful to hear.

Regards, Tony Robinson (Catriona R - Amel 54 #102. Currently in Cleopatra Marine, Preveza).

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How to replace the “eye” of the chain counter?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Bill,

Thanks again for the information.
I just finished to reinstall the windlass, with the new eye, and it works !!!
First time, in almost 4 years that I own the boat, that the chain counter is working !!!
Thanks again, hope you have a great weekend !

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 9/6/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How to replace the “eye” of the chain counter?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016, 7:06 PM


 









The chain counter sensor is held
in place by RTV. You will need to push it out.
See this Photo Album and read the
notes published on the 2nd photo.https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1505487095

BillBeBe
387
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:07
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 











Good afternoon,



I am having a little unknown…

Could you please explain to me how to change the eye of the
chain counter?

Is there a trick?

I see some silicone on mine…



If you could please look at the (7) pictures:

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_
tigres_windlass_chain_counter_ eye.html

Thanks in advance!



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rigging tune on Maramu caused damage

Stefano Biffi
 

Hi Peter I have a question for you, can you give me a private email 

Stefano
N'EVEREST SM185
now Asinara track to Bonifacio  Sardegna Italy

Il giorno 04 set 2016, alle ore 12:05, peterblokpoel@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

James,


I did a full inspection of the box, including the load transferring part in engine room. After cutting away the isolation and cleaning the open space of the ceiling I cannot detect any cracks or faults in the construction. The darker spots are leftovers from the glue wich is impossible for me to remove at the moment. 
There is a sort of doubling plate on top of the compressionposts and this is not in a perfect  straight line but this is the case with all of the ceiling. I imagine the constructors did not care much for esthetics for this part of construction.
However I took a ruler and held it against the bottom side of the doubling plate and this got me worried a bit. I added the photos to the same album and do hope they are clear enough.

The two verticals of the box are basicly the only parts that (as far as I can see now) transfer the compression loads to the posts and are not perfectly centered over the posts below. I measure 3 cm difference on both sides. That means the glassfibre vertical parts of the box are 3 cm to the outside compared to the centreline of the posts. It is difficult to be more precise.

Maybe it is too much to ask but it would be a great help if you could check the situation and state of the doubling plate on your boat. Maybe take a picture so we can compare?

The box and seats are one part I am sure and only bolted to the bulkhead and cockpit floor.. As you can see on the photos there is a flanged metal strip on both sides of the top inside of the box. This is where the cracks are visible on the outside of the box. At the bottom of the box (inside the  2 open storage compartments on both sides of the box) there is a single bolt wich attaches the box to the floor. There is no permanent connection anywhere else, let alone a solid glassfibre connection between bulkhead and box. The nuts of the latter are laminated in in the ceiling of the engine room.

The rigging on my boat was renewed in dec. 2012 and this was done by a specialist sailmaker/rigger in Heyeres. A company well known by Amel in the same place on the med. coast in south of France.
I tightened the rigging only slightly after sailing back to Holland ( 1,5 turns on each turnbuckle.)
I do not know the exact tension/load in numbers. I loosened all the mizzen mast turnbuckles 2 turns now and will see what happens in the next few days. I did the same with the main backstay.

Let me know your thoughts and findings

Best regards, Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

When underway and Gayle at helm, I can view Zeus readings from aft cabin on my iPad via wireless.  I can even navigate screens although it is distracting to Gayle to see screens change without her input.   

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:45 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

He is referring to a Furuno RD30 multi-functional display. Some Furuno GPS units, like the GP30, GP31, GP32, GP33 and GP36 display voltage. BTW, I mounted a GP30 in the aft berth so that when underway and Judy at the helm, I can open one eye and see course, speed and voltage. Also, it is great to have there to use as an anchor alarm.

I bought it used on ebay for about $125.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Excellent solution.   I did not know our radars displayed voltage.  It seems your radar is networked into wind instruments via 0183 bus.  I don't believe mine is but still should display voltage.  Is it difficult to navigate to voltage setting?  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:15 AM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hello Ben,


Peregrinus never had a Hydra processor but its B&G Zeus2 is able to measure supply voltage.  

We have alarms set on the Zeus2 at 23V for low and at 30V for high; the only problem is that the Zeuses must be on for this to work.

A half-workaround is to have the Furuno RD-30 that came with the boats of our generation permanently display the voltage; the voltage measurement is native to the Furuno, so nothing else has to be on. I have set mine to display voltage, depth, and windspeed, and I like its big, easy to read numbers over the Mastervolt display, which is somewhat dim.

Cheerio,


SM2K No. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Sant'Angelo – Ischia




---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

As you may know the B&G Hydro 2000 can measure voltage.  And my 2000 inputs into Zeus II which has alarms set to 23 and 29 volts.  I often trip low voltage alarm when using the bow thruster.  However, on two occasions I tripped high voltage - 29 volts - momentarily. The generator was running and charger operating.  Perhaps this occasional higher voltage can shorten bulb life?  But so far only one bulb - the anchor light - is short-lived.  It makes me think it must be the fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

OK thanks.  I do not have that display. 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:45 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

He is referring to a Furuno RD30 multi-functional display. Some Furuno GPS units, like the GP30, GP31, GP32, GP33 and GP36 display voltage. BTW, I mounted a GP30 in the aft berth so that when underway and Judy at the helm, I can open one eye and see course, speed and voltage. Also, it is great to have there to use as an anchor alarm.

I bought it used on ebay for about $125.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Excellent solution.   I did not know our radars displayed voltage.  It seems your radar is networked into wind instruments via 0183 bus.  I don't believe mine is but still should display voltage.  Is it difficult to navigate to voltage setting?  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:15 AM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hello Ben,


Peregrinus never had a Hydra processor but its B&G Zeus2 is able to measure supply voltage.  

We have alarms set on the Zeus2 at 23V for low and at 30V for high; the only problem is that the Zeuses must be on for this to work.

A half-workaround is to have the Furuno RD-30 that came with the boats of our generation permanently display the voltage; the voltage measurement is native to the Furuno, so nothing else has to be on. I have set mine to display voltage, depth, and windspeed, and I like its big, easy to read numbers over the Mastervolt display, which is somewhat dim.

Cheerio,


SM2K No. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Sant'Angelo – Ischia




---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

As you may know the B&G Hydro 2000 can measure voltage.  And my 2000 inputs into Zeus II which has alarms set to 23 and 29 volts.  I often trip low voltage alarm when using the bow thruster.  However, on two occasions I tripped high voltage - 29 volts - momentarily. The generator was running and charger operating.  Perhaps this occasional higher voltage can shorten bulb life?  But so far only one bulb - the anchor light - is short-lived.  It makes me think it must be the fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

He is referring to a Furuno RD30 multi-functional display. Some Furuno GPS units, like the GP30, GP31, GP32, GP33 and GP36 display voltage. BTW, I mounted a GP30 in the aft berth so that when underway and Judy at the helm, I can open one eye and see course, speed and voltage. Also, it is great to have there to use as an anchor alarm.

I bought it used on ebay for about $125.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Excellent solution.   I did not know our radars displayed voltage.  It seems your radar is networked into wind instruments via 0183 bus.  I don't believe mine is but still should display voltage.  Is it difficult to navigate to voltage setting?  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:15 AM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hello Ben,


Peregrinus never had a Hydra processor but its B&G Zeus2 is able to measure supply voltage.  

We have alarms set on the Zeus2 at 23V for low and at 30V for high; the only problem is that the Zeuses must be on for this to work.

A half-workaround is to have the Furuno RD-30 that came with the boats of our generation permanently display the voltage; the voltage measurement is native to the Furuno, so nothing else has to be on. I have set mine to display voltage, depth, and windspeed, and I like its big, easy to read numbers over the Mastervolt display, which is somewhat dim.

Cheerio,


SM2K No. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Sant'Angelo – Ischia




---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
As you may know the B&G Hydro 2000 can measure voltage.  And my 2000 inputs into Zeus II which has alarms set to 23 and 29 volts.  I often trip low voltage alarm when using the bow thruster.  However, on two occasions I tripped high voltage - 29 volts - momentarily. The generator was running and charger operating.  Perhaps this occasional higher voltage can shorten bulb life?  But so far only one bulb - the anchor light - is short-lived.  It makes me think it must be the fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM for sale

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Please send e-mail to the address in the ad.

/Ann-Sofie

Skickat från min iPad

8 sep. 2016 kl. 15:27 skrev Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

What is your asking price?

Vladimir
202 258 1916


On Sep 7, 2016 7:16 AM, "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://sailinglife.se/vi-saljer-lady-annila-amel-super-maramu-1998/

 

 

Regards

Annsofie

S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

In Portimão, Portugal

 

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Excellent solution.   I did not know our radars displayed voltage.  It seems your radar is networked into wind instruments via 0183 bus.  I don't believe mine is but still should display voltage.  Is it difficult to navigate to voltage setting?  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:15 AM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Ben,


Peregrinus never had a Hydra processor but its B&G Zeus2 is able to measure supply voltage.  

We have alarms set on the Zeus2 at 23V for low and at 30V for high; the only problem is that the Zeuses must be on for this to work.

A half-workaround is to have the Furuno RD-30 that came with the boats of our generation permanently display the voltage; the voltage measurement is native to the Furuno, so nothing else has to be on. I have set mine to display voltage, depth, and windspeed, and I like its big, easy to read numbers over the Mastervolt display, which is somewhat dim.

Cheerio,


SM2K No. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Sant'Angelo – Ischia




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

As you may know the B&G Hydro 2000 can measure voltage.  And my 2000 inputs into Zeus II which has alarms set to 23 and 29 volts.  I often trip low voltage alarm when using the bow thruster.  However, on two occasions I tripped high voltage - 29 volts - momentarily. The generator was running and charger operating.  Perhaps this occasional higher voltage can shorten bulb life?  But so far only one bulb - the anchor light - is short-lived.  It makes me think it must be the fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: conversion of mast head light to LED

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I've heard good things about Stecktronics.  Eric installed units on his boat and has been happy with them.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:51 AM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hull No. 350's factory masthead lights were replaced with all-new LED Stecktronics masthead lights, including the emergency strobe, the nav lights, and the anchor light, in 2013.  Stecktronics used new Aquasignal housings to manufacture its LED products.


Works flawlessly, 3.5 years later.

I don't know if there is a 24V stabilizer hidden somewhere in the boat, though.  I most certainly haven't installed one.

Cheers,

Peregrinus 
At anchor, Ischia (Gulf of Naples)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masthead lights do not last

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello Ben,

Peregrinus never had a Hydra processor but its B&G Zeus2 is able to measure supply voltage.  

We have alarms set on the Zeus2 at 23V for low and at 30V for high; the only problem is that the Zeuses must be on for this to work.

A half-workaround is to have the Furuno RD-30 that came with the boats of our generation permanently display the voltage; the voltage measurement is native to the Furuno, so nothing else has to be on. I have set mine to display voltage, depth, and windspeed, and I like its big, easy to read numbers over the Mastervolt display, which is somewhat dim.

Cheerio,


SM2K No. 350 (2002)
At anchor, Sant'Angelo – Ischia




---In amelyachtowners@..., <joedoakes66@...> wrote :

As you may know the B&G Hydro 2000 can measure voltage.  And my 2000 inputs into Zeus II which has alarms set to 23 and 29 volts.  I often trip low voltage alarm when using the bow thruster.  However, on two occasions I tripped high voltage - 29 volts - momentarily. The generator was running and charger operating.  Perhaps this occasional higher voltage can shorten bulb life?  But so far only one bulb - the anchor light - is short-lived.  It makes me think it must be the fixture.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I believe that the charging voltage is, 28.8 absorption and 32+ equalization, transmitted to the Masthead lights.

Kent
SM243
Kristy 

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:14 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

No I don't think so....you can't get voltage surges with a big battery bank.

IF it could possibly happen you'd be having all sorts of issues with lamps and other 24VDC devices.
The ONLY way you MIGHT have an issue with this would be if you used the EQUALISE cycle on your battery charger while the masthead light was on. The EQUALISE cycle raises the voltage to around 32VDC for a while, but that is something you would rarely do, possibly only if you had flooded batteries that you suspected of being sulphated, and if you know about equalising batteries, you would also know to turn off anything on the DC circuit before starting to do it.
Its much more likely that you have bad connections, salt water ingress into the lamp holder.....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM for sale

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

What is your asking price?

Vladimir
202 258 1916


On Sep 7, 2016 7:16 AM, "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://sailinglife.se/vi-saljer-lady-annila-amel-super-maramu-1998/

 

 

Regards

Annsofie

S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

In Portimão, Portugal

 

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 

Re: conversion of mast head light to LED

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hull No. 350's factory masthead lights were replaced with all-new LED Stecktronics masthead lights, including the emergency strobe, the nav lights, and the anchor light, in 2013.  Stecktronics used new Aquasignal housings to manufacture its LED products.

Works flawlessly, 3.5 years later.

I don't know if there is a 24V stabilizer hidden somewhere in the boat, though.  I most certainly haven't installed one.

Cheers,

Peregrinus 
At anchor, Ischia (Gulf of Naples)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Alex,

I took 6 pictures and posted them on:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_siphon_break.html

It shows you the flow of the water, the last 3 pictures will show you the detail of the Syphon Break, with the little pipe that allow air and actually make it a “syphon break”.

Hope that helps!

Have a great day

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




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On Wed, 9/7/16, 'Alex Paquin' alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM
To: "'Alexandre Uster von Baar'" <uster@...>, amelyachtowners@...
Cc: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 6:01 PM


 









Dear Alexander,

Many thanks for your email, very interesting thank you. Was
this an original Amel installation on your boat?

One question, I don´t see a breathing (venting) valve on
either loops. Can it work that way?

I enjoy very much your very orderly way of describing and
documenting your work onboard. Very useful indeed.

Best regards,

Alex Paquin



-----Original Message-----

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar [mailto:uster@...]


Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:54 PM

To: amelyachtowners@...

Cc: alex.paquin@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED
LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM



Good afternoon Alex,



Here is a picture of the anti- siphon on my vessel, I have
the Volvo TMD 22 P
http://www.nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses_4.jpg

Don’t look at the arrows, they are for something else.

The BIG black hose is the exhaust.

Behind it is a yellow/black hose going to the top of the
picture to a metallic half circle, that is the anti- siphon.




I will also sent you directly via email a page of the SM2K
Owner Manual showing the Yanmar anti- siphon.

Let me know if you receive it.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Wed, 9/7/16, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners]
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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SIPHON BREAK USING A VENTED
LOOP -RAW WATER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 2:32 PM

























Good

afternoon, does anyone have

images or a diagram of an anti- siphon installation on the
raw water side of the engine cooling system? I am
considering this step in addition to a few others to avoid
water backing into the engine exhaust system on the Yanmar
4JH4-HTE (repowered) on our Older Maramu.

Alex PaquinSIMPATICOOlder Maramu Hull #94,

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