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Re: ac panel green light

Gary Wells
 

Here's a link to the install I did on Adagio. Hopefully Yahoo will allow it :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/amelyachtowners/permalink/834664536635669/.

Gary W.
SM 209 Adagio
Italy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Alexandre,

The EREV battery is specifically made for the Chevrolet Volt car it is an AGM battery not a wet cell.

Possibly check with another brand.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 1:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

 

 

Hello Eric,

I am having trouble to find AC Delco EV batteries…
I found EREV but can not find any information like Ah on these…

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 9/25/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:25 PM


 









AlexandreYes they are flooded
batteries in a 31 case.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 7:37
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC
Delco Deep Cycle batteries?    Good morning Mark & Eric,


Mark thanks for the info.
And you still have the starting battery in the compartment?


Eric, are these EV
batteries still flooded?

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/24/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel
Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 10:30 PM


 









Alexandre,Group 31’s are larger
. you would have to measure the space to see if
they fit.
Try to get Delco (good brand)
batteries marked EV (electric
vehicle) they
are better than deep cycle batteries and 12
volts..You will have to make
new connecting bars.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:37
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco
Deep Cycle batteries?   
Good
afternoon,

As you might
know, the power has been out in Puerto Rico
since Wednesday.

So had to
use the genset to recharge the
batteries…

After 1/2 hour the charger
won’t allow more than 3 amp…
Plus after
an hour (even hatch
open) the engine room becomes too hot to
keep using the generator (without risking
damage to the
control board) - which is
another issue I need to address
(and yes,
all the fan are working).

Battery choice is limited here in Puerto
Rico… what do you think of AC Delco?
Seems to be the only supplier.

Now I have Group 27.
For those who have the 8 House batteries,
will
the Group 31 fit?

If you
know a supplier of Good
batteries in Puerto Rico, let me
know

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club
Nautico
de San Juan, Puerto Rico










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

OK

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 25, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben, No worry I just found it

Here is a picture of it:
http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105/onan_control_board_adjust_voltage.jpg

Wow, I am amazed at how simple or actually well organized Onan are...

Thanks again !!!

Alexandre

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On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 1:13 PM


 









Alex,Great looking installation of
Blue Sea meter.  It's easy to adjust voltage on Onan.
 On bottom of control box - on board facing up - is a very
small screw covered with a rubberized barrier ( you need to
peel a small amount off to turn screw).  With a very very
small screw driver turn screw clockwise to increase voltage
and counter clockwise to reduce voltage.   After turning
screw about 1/2 turn I ran gen-set to check volts. You
likely will need do this several times.  I did read you
could make adjustment with generator running but thought
this not a good idea for me.  If you drop screwdriver in
energized box you could be buying new control board.  No
joy!
Ben DriverLa Bella
VitaSM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Sep 25,
2016, at 1:14 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 








Mine is putting 250.8 volts… kind of coincide since I
replaced the exhaust elbow.

I thought in 50 hertz it was 1500 rpm and 1800 rpm for the
60 hz, but could be wrong.



Ben, how were you able to adjust the voltage from the
control box?

I installed the Blue Sea AC Multimeter, here is the
illustration if interested (should be similar for any
multimeters)

http://nikimat.com/blue_sea_ac_multimeter_8247.html



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:56 AM





 























Thanks Bill .  I will check out light

source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz
Pro

or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in
older

marinas where you could experience low or high voltage
and

be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator
and

found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to
go

into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A

permanently installed meter would have informed me much

sooner.  Ben 



Ben and GayleLa Bella

Vita SM #347Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPhone



On

Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill &
Judy

Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 



















Ben,

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has

gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am
guessing

it is a 220VAC LED.



This,

or something similar would likely work:

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC



You may

want to consider installing something more than a bulb,

which really tells you nothing.

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is

a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being
consumed,

and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

You can see where I installed it

here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1112519422/lightbox/935875563?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/935875563

This gives me data on shore power

and on generator power, which ever source is delivering

power to the main AC breaker box.

I am sure that there are other

meters/gauges that do the same thing.

Best,

Bill

BeBe 387





On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:































 



















Sorry

Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My
bad. 

Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other
parts

I need order.  

Ben DriverLa

Bella VitaSM #347

Sent from

my iPad

On

Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@...

[amelyachtowners] com>

wrote:

































 



















Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your

name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres

  , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 







Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres













On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@...
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Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail? 

Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but
no

light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone

recommend a source ?































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Be happy to send a picture.  I'll take one tomorrow . 

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 25, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon Ben,

Thanks for the reply, I definitely would not adjust with the genset on.
I just had to put a new Control Board so I know the price…

is there any way you could take a picture of that screw? Or give me direction on the pictures below?

Is the screw on the control board?
If so, here is a pictures of mine:
http://nikimat.com/onan_board.jpg

If not, here is a pictures of my Control Box:
http://nikimat.com/onan_control.jpg

Also, I have the MDKAL not sure it makes a difference.
http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105.html

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 1:13 PM


 









Alex,Great looking installation of
Blue Sea meter.  It's easy to adjust voltage on Onan.
 On bottom of control box - on board facing up - is a very
small screw covered with a rubberized barrier ( you need to
peel a small amount off to turn screw).  With a very very
small screw driver turn screw clockwise to increase voltage
and counter clockwise to reduce voltage.   After turning
screw about 1/2 turn I ran gen-set to check volts. You
likely will need do this several times.  I did read you
could make adjustment with generator running but thought
this not a good idea for me.  If you drop screwdriver in
energized box you could be buying new control board.  No
joy!
Ben DriverLa Bella
VitaSM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Sep 25,
2016, at 1:14 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 








Mine is putting 250.8 volts… kind of coincide since I
replaced the exhaust elbow.

I thought in 50 hertz it was 1500 rpm and 1800 rpm for the
60 hz, but could be wrong.



Ben, how were you able to adjust the voltage from the
control box?

I installed the Blue Sea AC Multimeter, here is the
illustration if interested (should be similar for any
multimeters)

http://nikimat.com/blue_sea_ac_multimeter_8247.html



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:56 AM





 























Thanks Bill .  I will check out light

source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz
Pro

or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in
older

marinas where you could experience low or high voltage
and

be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator
and

found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to
go

into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A

permanently installed meter would have informed me much

sooner.  Ben 



Ben and GayleLa Bella

Vita SM #347Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPhone



On

Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill &
Judy

Rouse' yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 



















Ben,

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has

gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am
guessing

it is a 220VAC LED.



This,

or something similar would likely work:

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC



You may

want to consider installing something more than a bulb,

which really tells you nothing.

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is

a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being
consumed,

and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

You can see where I installed it

here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1112519422/lightbox/935875563?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/935875563

This gives me data on shore power

and on generator power, which ever source is delivering

power to the main AC breaker box.

I am sure that there are other

meters/gauges that do the same thing.

Best,

Bill

BeBe 387





On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:































 



















Sorry

Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My
bad. 

Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other
parts

I need order.  

Ben DriverLa

Bella VitaSM #347

Sent from

my iPad

On

Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@...

[amelyachtowners] com>

wrote:

































 



















Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your

name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres

  , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 







Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres













On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@...
[amelyachtowners]



wrote:













Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail? 

Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but
no

light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone

recommend a source ?































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Ben, No worry I just found it

Here is a picture of it:
http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105/onan_control_board_adjust_voltage.jpg

Wow, I am amazed at how simple or actually well organized Onan are...


Thanks again !!!

Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 1:13 PM


 









Alex,Great looking installation of
Blue Sea meter.  It's easy to adjust voltage on Onan.
 On bottom of control box - on board facing up - is a very
small screw covered with a rubberized barrier ( you need to
peel a small amount off to turn screw).  With a very very
small screw driver turn screw clockwise to increase voltage
and counter clockwise to reduce voltage.   After turning
screw about 1/2 turn I ran gen-set to check volts. You
likely will need do this several times.  I did read you
could make adjustment with generator running but thought
this not a good idea for me.  If you drop screwdriver in
energized box you could be buying new control board.  No
joy!
Ben DriverLa Bella
VitaSM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Sep 25,
2016, at 1:14 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 








Mine is putting 250.8 volts… kind of coincide since I
replaced the exhaust elbow.

I thought in 50 hertz it was 1500 rpm and 1800 rpm for the
60 hz, but could be wrong.



Ben, how were you able to adjust the voltage from the
control box?

I installed the Blue Sea AC Multimeter, here is the
illustration if interested (should be similar for any
multimeters)

http://nikimat.com/blue_sea_ac_multimeter_8247.html



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:56 AM





 























Thanks Bill .  I will check out light

source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz
Pro

or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in
older

marinas where you could experience low or high voltage
and

be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator
and

found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to
go

into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A

permanently installed meter would have informed me much

sooner.  Ben 



Ben and GayleLa Bella

Vita SM #347Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPhone



On

Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill &
Judy

Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

 



















Ben,

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has

gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am
guessing

it is a 220VAC LED.



This,

or something similar would likely work:

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC



You may

want to consider installing something more than a bulb,

which really tells you nothing.

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is

a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being
consumed,

and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

You can see where I installed it

here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1112519422/lightbox/935875563?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/935875563

This gives me data on shore power

and on generator power, which ever source is delivering

power to the main AC breaker box.

I am sure that there are other

meters/gauges that do the same thing.

Best,

Bill

BeBe 387





On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Sorry

Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My
bad. 

Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other
parts

I need order.  

Ben DriverLa

Bella VitaSM #347

Sent from

my iPad

On

Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

wrote:

































 



















Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your

name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres

  , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 







Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres
On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>

wrote:













Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail? 

Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but
no

light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone

recommend a source ?































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Ben,

Thanks for the reply, I definitely would not adjust with the genset on.
I just had to put a new Control Board so I know the price…

is there any way you could take a picture of that screw? Or give me direction on the pictures below?

Is the screw on the control board?
If so, here is a pictures of mine:
http://nikimat.com/onan_board.jpg

If not, here is a pictures of my Control Box:
http://nikimat.com/onan_control.jpg

Also, I have the MDKAL not sure it makes a difference.
http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105.html

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely, Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 1:13 PM


 









Alex,Great looking installation of
Blue Sea meter.  It's easy to adjust voltage on Onan.
 On bottom of control box - on board facing up - is a very
small screw covered with a rubberized barrier ( you need to
peel a small amount off to turn screw).  With a very very
small screw driver turn screw clockwise to increase voltage
and counter clockwise to reduce voltage.   After turning
screw about 1/2 turn I ran gen-set to check volts. You
likely will need do this several times.  I did read you
could make adjustment with generator running but thought
this not a good idea for me.  If you drop screwdriver in
energized box you could be buying new control board.  No
joy!
Ben DriverLa Bella
VitaSM #347
Sent from my
iPad
On Sep 25,
2016, at 1:14 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 








Mine is putting 250.8 volts… kind of coincide since I
replaced the exhaust elbow.

I thought in 50 hertz it was 1500 rpm and 1800 rpm for the
60 hz, but could be wrong.



Ben, how were you able to adjust the voltage from the
control box?

I installed the Blue Sea AC Multimeter, here is the
illustration if interested (should be similar for any
multimeters)

http://nikimat.com/blue_sea_ac_multimeter_8247.html



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:56 AM





 























Thanks Bill .  I will check out light

source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz
Pro

or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in
older

marinas where you could experience low or high voltage
and

be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator
and

found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to
go

into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A

permanently installed meter would have informed me much

sooner.  Ben 



Ben and GayleLa Bella

Vita SM #347Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPhone



On

Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill &
Judy

Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

 



















Ben,

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has

gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am
guessing

it is a 220VAC LED.



This,

or something similar would likely work:

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC



You may

want to consider installing something more than a bulb,

which really tells you nothing.

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is

a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being
consumed,

and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

You can see where I installed it

here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1112519422/lightbox/935875563?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/935875563

This gives me data on shore power

and on generator power, which ever source is delivering

power to the main AC breaker box.

I am sure that there are other

meters/gauges that do the same thing.

Best,

Bill

BeBe 387





On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Sorry

Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My
bad. 

Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other
parts

I need order.  

Ben DriverLa

Bella VitaSM #347

Sent from

my iPad

On

Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

wrote:

































 



















Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your

name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres

  , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 







Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres
On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>

wrote:













Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail? 

Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but
no

light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone

recommend a source ?































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Eric, 
I too have seen unreliable power all over Caribbean and US.  I believe a friends air conditioner failed because of prolonged low voltage.  Monitors installed onboard seem a must have.  I'll check out your installation pics.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:24 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

If you look back in the photo section, you will see my power monitoring panel with a circuit breaker. The meters are mounted in the triangular piece of wood to port of the Ac panel. There is a volt, amp, and frequency meter mounted on it in addition to the circuit breaker.

It is always on .

January 24 this year I plugged into a 50 amp pedestal and saw there was 110 volts coming out of it. If I did not have my additional circuit breaker off I would have damaged a lot of things. Having all 3 meters on at once really is nice as you can just look over at any time and see whats happening in big red numbers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 12:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

 

 

Thanks Bill .  I will check out light source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz Pro or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in older marinas where you could experience low or high voltage and be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator and found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to go into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A permanently installed meter would have informed me much sooner.  

Ben 

Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita 

SM #347

On Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

 

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing it is a 220VAC LED.

This, or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC

 

You may want to consider installing something more than a bulb, which really tells you nothing.

 

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed, and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

 

 

This gives me data on shore power and on generator power, which ever source is delivering power to the main AC breaker box.

 

I am sure that there are other meters/gauges that do the same thing.

 

Best,

 

Bill

 

BeBe 387

 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad.  Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts I need order.  


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

 

Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres   , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 

 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres


On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail?  Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone recommend a source ?

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Alex,
Great looking installation of Blue Sea meter.  It's easy to adjust voltage on Onan.  On bottom of control box - on board facing up - is a very small screw covered with a rubberized barrier ( you need to peel a small amount off to turn screw).  With a very very small screw driver turn screw clockwise to increase voltage and counter clockwise to reduce voltage.   After turning screw about 1/2 turn I ran gen-set to check volts. You likely will need do this several times.  I did read you could make adjustment with generator running but thought this not a good idea for me.  If you drop screwdriver in energized box you could be buying new control board.  No joy!

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Mine is putting 250.8 volts… kind of coincide since I replaced the exhaust elbow.
I thought in 50 hertz it was 1500 rpm and 1800 rpm for the 60 hz, but could be wrong.

Ben, how were you able to adjust the voltage from the control box?
I installed the Blue Sea AC Multimeter, here is the illustration if interested (should be similar for any multimeters)
http://nikimat.com/blue_sea_ac_multimeter_8247.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:56 AM


 











Thanks Bill .  I will check out light
source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz Pro
or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in older
marinas where you could experience low or high voltage and
be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator and
found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to go
into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A
permanently installed meter would have informed me much
sooner.  Ben 

Ben and GayleLa Bella
Vita SM #347Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On
Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy
Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 









Ben,
The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has
gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing
it is a 220VAC LED.

This,
or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC

You may
want to consider installing something more than a bulb,
which really tells you nothing.
I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is
a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed,
and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html
You can see where I installed it
here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1112519422/lightbox/935875563?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/935875563
This gives me data on shore power
and on generator power, which ever source is delivering
power to the main AC breaker box.
I am sure that there are other
meters/gauges that do the same thing.
Best,
Bill
BeBe 387


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at
8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Sorry
Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad. 
Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts
I need order.  
Ben DriverLa
Bella VitaSM #347
Sent from
my iPad
On
Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@...
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:
















 









Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your
name ) , 
I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres
  , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 



Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres






On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]

wrote:






Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail? 
Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no
light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone
recommend a source ?































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Ian,

I was just looking at the Trojan 27TMX and was a bit concerned with their height: 9.24 (235 mm) so very glad they fit and that you are happy with them.

I do not go below 80% either (except accidentally 78% the other day).

Thanks very much for your message, the Trojan 27TMX are definitely a serious contender.

Sincerely, Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:44 PM


 



















Hi Alexandre,
                          We have the Trojan
27 TMX lead acid  batteries.  Chose them after many years
of short lived performance from the AC Delco gel batteries (
typically 2 years , even the first two years when the boat
was brand new and  lived in a marina.
We are really careful --maybe too careful?--and recharge
when we drop to no less than 83%).Now over three  and a
half years old they have just been checked out by Amel who
confirmed that they are still good to go. I expect to get at
least another year out
of them and I have yet to fit solar to keep them topped
up.
 Last winter , left fully charged, they were unused and
uncharged for 6 months, but held their charge over that
period. 
  They fit happily into our 9 battery box--their height
is no problem. Yes, you do need to check the water levels,
which I do twice a season, but so far I am well rewarded
financially for my two 15 minute chores.



Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Hyeres


From:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: 25 September 2016 17:04:56

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep
Cycle batteries?
 





Yes Bill, that was my concerned. 







--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle
batteries?

 To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

 Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:12 AM

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

    

      

      

       When measuring, don't forget

 to consider that 2" thick support under the lid. I
had

 to cut notches in mine...I did not like that, but
already

 had the batteries.

 BillBeBe

 387

 On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

 12:03 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

 [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

    

      

      

       Good morning Bill,

 

 

 

 Thanks for your email. 

 

 I have found AC Delco, Deka and Trojan dealers here in

 Puerto Rico, but I will look at that shipping option

 especially since they sell Rolls Surrette batteries! 

 

 

 

 Trying to figure what fits… 

 

 

 

 Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

 

 

 

 ------------------------------ --------------

 

 On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@svbebe.com

 [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

 com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep
Cycle

 batteries?

 

  To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

 com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

 com>

 

  Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 10:50 AM

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

     

 

       

 

       

 

        Alex,

 

  About 9 years ago when we were in

 

  Bonaire, we contacted DC Battery, a battery supplier
in

 

  Miami, Florida http://www.dcbattery.

 com/

 

  We purchased 13 batteries from them.

 

  They placed them on a pallet and shipped via a
scheduled

 

  transport ship to the islands. The ship made a trip
once

 a

 

  week and stopped at about 8-10 islands. I am betting

 this

 

  may be the best way to go once you decide which
battery

 you

 

  want. And, because it is US to US territory, customs

 should

 

  be easy. I think the total freight from DC Battery to

 

  dockside at our boat via local transport was $250 USD.

 

 

 

  BillBeBe

 

  #387

 

  On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

 

  9:52 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

 

  [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

 com>

 

  wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

     

 

       

 

       

 

        Thanks Miles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  I will double check the measurements of the battery

 

  compartment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  If someone has recommendations for other batteries
that

 I

 

  can find in Puerto Rico, please don't hesitate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  ------------------------------ --------------

 

 

 

  On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Miles Bidwell'
milesbid@gmail.com

 

  [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

 

  com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle

 

  batteries?

 

 

 

   To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

 

  com

 

 

 

   Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 7:14 AM

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

    

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

    

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

      

 

 

 

        

 

 

 

        

 

 

 

         Hello Alexandre,  Your boat originally
came

 

 

 

   with group 31 batteries.   Their larger capacity
will

 

  work

 

 

 

   much better for you.   If you have a NAPA in PR, 

 you

 

  can

 

 

 

   get their group 31 deep cycle batteries.    Miles

 

   Ladybug  SM 216, Newport, 

 

 

 

   RI

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

      

 

 

 

       

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

      

 

 

 

      

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Eric,

I am having trouble to find AC Delco EV batteries…
I found EREV but can not find any information like Ah on these…

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:25 PM


 









AlexandreYes they are flooded
batteries in a 31 case.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 7:37
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC
Delco Deep Cycle batteries?    Good morning Mark & Eric,


Mark thanks for the info.
And you still have the starting battery in the compartment?


Eric, are these EV
batteries still flooded?

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/24/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel
Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 10:30 PM


 









Alexandre,Group 31’s are larger
. you would have to measure the space to see if
they fit.
Try to get Delco (good brand)
batteries marked EV (electric
vehicle) they
are better than deep cycle batteries and 12
volts..You will have to make
new connecting bars.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:37
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco
Deep Cycle batteries?   
Good
afternoon,

As you might
know, the power has been out in Puerto Rico
since Wednesday.

So had to
use the genset to recharge the
batteries…

After 1/2 hour the charger
won’t allow more than 3 amp…
Plus after
an hour (even hatch
open) the engine room becomes too hot to
keep using the generator (without risking
damage to the
control board) - which is
another issue I need to address
(and yes,
all the fan are working).

Battery choice is limited here in Puerto
Rico… what do you think of AC Delco?
Seems to be the only supplier.

Now I have Group 27.
For those who have the 8 House batteries,
will
the Group 31 fit?

If you
know a supplier of Good
batteries in Puerto Rico, let me
know

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club
Nautico
de San Juan, Puerto Rico










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Alexandre,

We have the Trojan 27 TMX lead acid batteries. Chose them after many years of short lived performance from the AC Delco gel batteries ( typically 2 years , even the first two years when the boat was brand new and lived in a marina. We are really careful --maybe too careful?--and recharge when we drop to no less than 83%).Now over three and a half years old they have just been checked out by Amel who confirmed that they are still good to go. I expect to get at least another year out of them and I have yet to fit solar to keep them topped up.

Last winter , left fully charged, they were unused and uncharged for 6 months, but held their charge over that period.

They fit happily into our 9 battery box--their height is no problem. Yes, you do need to check the water levels, which I do twice a season, but so far I am well rewarded financially for my two 15 minute chores.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Hyeres

________________________________
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 25 September 2016 17:04:56
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?


Yes Bill, that was my concerned.



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On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:12 AM












When measuring, don't forget
to consider that 2" thick support under the lid. I had
to cut notches in mine...I did not like that, but already
had the batteries.
BillBeBe
387
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at
12:03 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

























Good morning Bill,



Thanks for your email.

I have found AC Delco, Deka and Trojan dealers here in
Puerto Rico, but I will look at that shipping option
especially since they sell Rolls Surrette batteries!



Trying to figure what fits…



Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre



------------------------------ --------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle
batteries?

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 10:50 AM

























Alex,

About 9 years ago when we were in

Bonaire, we contacted DC Battery, a battery supplier in

Miami, Florida http://www.dcbattery.
com/

We purchased 13 batteries from them.

They placed them on a pallet and shipped via a scheduled

transport ship to the islands. The ship made a trip once
a

week and stopped at about 8-10 islands. I am betting
this

may be the best way to go once you decide which battery
you

want. And, because it is US to US territory, customs
should

be easy. I think the total freight from DC Battery to

dockside at our boat via local transport was $250 USD.



BillBeBe

#387

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

9:52 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

wrote:



















































Thanks Miles.







I will double check the measurements of the battery

compartment.







If someone has recommendations for other batteries that
I

can find in Puerto Rico, please don't hesitate.







Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre







------------------------------ --------------



On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@gmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com> wrote:







Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle

batteries?



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com



Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 7:14 AM



















































Hello Alexandre, Your boat originally came



with group 31 batteries. Their larger capacity will

work



much better for you. If you have a NAPA in PR,
you

can



get their group 31 deep cycle batteries. Miles

Ladybug SM 216, Newport,



RI







































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Posted by: Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com>
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Yahoo Groups Links


Re: sm jib furler failure.

Gary Wells
 

For the record, Amel Caribe in Martinique oversaw and provided parts for a refit of the whole attachment system last July. The rivets were removed, the holes enlarged and backing plate pieces slid into the slots to reinforce the tube. Then steel hex bolts were threaded through the foil tube, spacers and into new threads made on the furler. It's hugely stronger and won't ever elongate the holes or break rivets. It won't shear either, so that part is given up. Tef-gel or Lanacote required to help hold off dissimilar metal galvanic corrosion.
So far i'm happy with with the conversion. No special tools required now should I have to separate the foil from the furler.

ALSO: there is a hard nylon piece that slides inside the swivel to prevent any play between the locating table the swivel and the groove in the foil. It's called simply the "Crayon" (because it kind of looks like one :) It's a cool little piece that prevents wear to both the foil and the swivel. Sorry if that was sort of off topic :)

Gary W.
SM 209 Adagio
Fiumicino, Italy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

Eric Freedman
 

Alexandre

Yes they are flooded batteries in a 31 case.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 7:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

 

 

Good morning Mark & Eric,

Mark thanks for the info. And you still have the starting battery in the compartment?

Eric, are these EV batteries still flooded?

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/24/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 10:30 PM


 









Alexandre,Group 31’s are larger
. you would have to measure the space to see if they fit.
Try to get Delco (good brand) batteries marked EV (electric
vehicle) they are better than deep cycle batteries and 12
volts..You will have to make
new connecting bars.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:37
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco
Deep Cycle batteries?   
Good
afternoon,

As you might
know, the power has been out in Puerto Rico since Wednesday.

So had to use the genset to recharge the
batteries…
After 1/2 hour the charger
won’t allow more than 3 amp…
Plus after
an hour (even hatch open) the engine room becomes too hot to
keep using the generator (without risking damage to the
control board) - which is another issue I need to address
(and yes, all the fan are working).

Battery choice is limited here in Puerto
Rico… what do you think of AC Delco?
Seems to be the only supplier.

Now I have Group 27.
For those who have the 8 House batteries, will
the Group 31 fit?

If you
know a supplier of Good batteries in Puerto Rico, let me
know

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico
de San Juan, Puerto Rico










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Eric Freedman
 

Ben,

If you look back in the photo section, you will see my power monitoring panel with a circuit breaker. The meters are mounted in the triangular piece of wood to port of the Ac panel. There is a volt, amp, and frequency meter mounted on it in addition to the circuit breaker.

It is always on .

January 24 this year I plugged into a 50 amp pedestal and saw there was 110 volts coming out of it. If I did not have my additional circuit breaker off I would have damaged a lot of things. Having all 3 meters on at once really is nice as you can just look over at any time and see whats happening in big red numbers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 12:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

 

 

Thanks Bill .  I will check out light source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz Pro or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in older marinas where you could experience low or high voltage and be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator and found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to go into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A permanently installed meter would have informed me much sooner.  

Ben 

Ben and Gayle

La Bella Vita 

SM #347

On Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben,

 

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing it is a 220VAC LED.

This, or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC

 

You may want to consider installing something more than a bulb, which really tells you nothing.

 

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed, and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

 

 

This gives me data on shore power and on generator power, which ever source is delivering power to the main AC breaker box.

 

I am sure that there are other meters/gauges that do the same thing.

 

Best,

 

Bill

 

BeBe 387

 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad.  Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts I need order.  


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

 

Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres   , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 

 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres


On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail?  Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone recommend a source ?

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Good advise .  I may have Oman RPM checked out in Martinique in December.  Something else I would add is a tachometer for Oman.
Ben 


Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Sunday, September 25, 2016, 1:07 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Ben,

Yikes, 200VAC would likely harm AC's.

Yes, I am reluctant to recommend changing Amel designs, but because of the lack of quality in marinas, it is necessary to have one of these. 

I have not experienced an Onan putting out the wrong voltage. That could be a sign that the governor is not working correctly. The next time you have a chance to have an Onan tech on board, have them check the RPM's of the engine to see if it is in spec with no load and then again with maybe 2 AC's running. The RPM should stay constant at 1,800 RPM. I am not an expert on this, but I think you should check it.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill .  I will check out light source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz Pro or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in older marinas where you could experience low or high voltage and be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator and found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to go into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A permanently installed meter would have informed me much sooner.  

Ben 

Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

 

Ben,

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing it is a 220VAC LED.

This, or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power- Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/ dp/B00DUW2NSC

You may want to consider installing something more than a bulb, which really tells you nothing.

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed, and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro. com/vaf110.html


This gives me data on shore power and on generator power, which ever source is delivering power to the main AC breaker box.

I am sure that there are other meters/gauges that do the same thing.

Best,

Bill

BeBe 387



On Sun, Sep 25, 2 016 at 8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
 

Sorry Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad.  Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts I need order.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

 

Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your name ) , 
I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres   , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres


On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail?  Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone recommend a source ?




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Eric Freedman
 

I cut my green light open with a jewelers saw and replace the led with 2 LED’s and glued it back together . Now it is very bright.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 12:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

 

 

Ben,

 

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing it is a 220VAC LED.

This, or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC

 

You may want to consider installing something more than a bulb, which really tells you nothing.

 

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed, and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html

 

 

This gives me data on shore power and on generator power, which ever source is delivering power to the main AC breaker box.

 

I am sure that there are other meters/gauges that do the same thing.

 

Best,

 

Bill

 

BeBe 387

 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad.  Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts I need order.  


Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347


On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your name ) , 

I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres   , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 

 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres


On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail?  Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone recommend a source ?

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Mine is putting 250.8 volts… kind of coincide since I replaced the exhaust elbow.
I thought in 50 hertz it was 1500 rpm and 1800 rpm for the 60 hz, but could be wrong.

Ben, how were you able to adjust the voltage from the control box?
I installed the Blue Sea AC Multimeter, here is the illustration if interested (should be similar for any multimeters)
http://nikimat.com/blue_sea_ac_multimeter_8247.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, Ben Driver joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:56 AM


 











Thanks Bill .  I will check out light
source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz Pro
or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in older
marinas where you could experience low or high voltage and
be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator and
found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to go
into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A
permanently installed meter would have informed me much
sooner.  Ben 

Ben and GayleLa Bella
Vita SM #347Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On
Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy
Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
 









Ben,
The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has
gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing
it is a 220VAC LED.

This,
or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC

You may
want to consider installing something more than a bulb,
which really tells you nothing.
I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is
a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed,
and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html
You can see where I installed it
here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1112519422/lightbox/935875563?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/935875563
This gives me data on shore power
and on generator power, which ever source is delivering
power to the main AC breaker box.
I am sure that there are other
meters/gauges that do the same thing.
Best,
Bill
BeBe 387


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at
8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Sorry
Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad. 
Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts
I need order.  
Ben DriverLa
Bella VitaSM #347
Sent from
my iPad
On
Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>
wrote:
















 









Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your
name ) , 
I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres
  , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 



Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres
On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>
wrote:






Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail? 
Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no
light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone
recommend a source ?































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Panel Green Light

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

Yikes, 200VAC would likely harm AC's.

Yes, I am reluctant to recommend changing Amel designs, but because of the lack of quality in marinas, it is necessary to have one of these. 

I have not experienced an Onan putting out the wrong voltage. That could be a sign that the governor is not working correctly. The next time you have a chance to have an Onan tech on board, have them check the RPM's of the engine to see if it is in spec with no load and then again with maybe 2 AC's running. The RPM should stay constant at 1,800 RPM. I am not an expert on this, but I think you should check it.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill .  I will check out light source as well as meter.  I have been thinking a Cruz Pro or maybe Blue Sea would be invaluable.  Especially in older marinas where you could experience low or high voltage and be unawares.  I did put a multi meter on my generator and found it was putting out only 200 vac.  I was able to go into control box and adjust upward to 220 vac.  A permanently installed meter would have informed me much sooner.  

Ben 

Ben and Gayle
La Bella Vita 
SM #347


On Sunday, September 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Ben,

The Green 220VAC light on BeBe has gotten dimmer with age. I have not looked, but I am guessing it is a 220VAC LED.

This, or something similar would likely work:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Indicator-Pilot-Single-Light/dp/B00DUW2NSC

You may want to consider installing something more than a bulb, which really tells you nothing.

I installed a CruzPro VAF110. It is a TriData meter that tells me Volts, Amps being consumed, and Frequency (50 or 60htz). http://www.cruzpro.com/vaf110.html


This gives me data on shore power and on generator power, which ever source is delivering power to the main AC breaker box.

I am sure that there are other meters/gauges that do the same thing.

Best,

Bill

BeBe 387



On Sun, Sep 25, 2 016 at 8:52 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Sorry Ian.  I inadvertently left signature line off.  My bad.  Thanks for info.  I will contact Amel as I have other parts I need order.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

 

Joe ( I am guessing , since you don't give your name ) , 
I am about to have a new bulb fitted by Amel in Hyeres   , so I'm sure they would sell you one . 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Hyeres


On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:27, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

Has anyone had the AC panel green light fail?  Mine failed -  lots of Power from genset or shore but no light.  I assume it is small 220v AC bulb.  Can anyone recommend a source ?




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Yes Bill, that was my concerned.



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 11:12 AM


 









When measuring, don't forget
to consider that 2" thick support under the lid. I had
to cut notches in mine...I did not like that, but already
had the batteries.
BillBeBe
387
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at
12:03 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good morning Bill,



Thanks for your email.

I have found AC Delco, Deka and Trojan dealers here in
Puerto Rico, but I will look at that shipping option
especially since they sell Rolls Surrette batteries!



Trying to figure what fits…



Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle
batteries?

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 10:50 AM





 



















Alex,

About 9 years ago when we were in

Bonaire, we contacted DC Battery, a battery supplier in

Miami, Florida http://www.dcbattery.
com/

We purchased 13 batteries from them.

They placed them on a pallet and shipped via a scheduled

transport ship to the islands. The ship made a trip once
a

week and stopped at about 8-10 islands. I am betting
this

may be the best way to go once you decide which battery
you

want. And, because it is US to US territory, customs
should

be easy. I think the total freight from DC Battery to

dockside at our boat via local transport was $250 USD.



BillBeBe

#387

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at

9:52 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>

wrote:































 



















Thanks Miles.







I will double check the measurements of the battery

compartment.







If someone has recommendations for other batteries that
I

can find in Puerto Rico, please don't hesitate.







Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre







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On Sun, 9/25/16, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@gmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com> wrote:







Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC Delco Deep Cycle

batteries?



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.

com



Date: Sunday, September 25, 2016, 7:14 AM











 







































Hello Alexandre,  Your boat originally came



with group 31 batteries.   Their larger capacity will

work



much better for you.   If you have a NAPA in PR, 
you

can



get their group 31 deep cycle batteries.   Miles

 Ladybug  SM 216, Newport, 



RI







































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes, and in most Super Maramu 2000's and 54's, you can use a larger than GRP31 battery for the starter.

Several years ago I bought a 175 amp 1100 CCA truck lead-acid wet cell starting battery. This stopped my problems in getting enough starting amps to the Onan generator.

Measure carefully!

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:45 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

One should be an engine start battery and the other 8 should be deep cycle or EV.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:27 AM


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

 

 

Alexandre,

 

Yes, I have a total of nine type Group 31 batteries in the compartment.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff

 

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 7:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?

 

 

Good morning Mark & Eric,

Mark thanks for the info. And you still have the starting battery in the compartment?

Eric, are these EV batteries still flooded?

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/24/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco Deep Cycle batteries?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 10:30 PM


 









Alexandre,Group 31’s are larger
. you would have to measure the space to see if they fit.
Try to get Delco (good brand) batteries marked EV (electric
vehicle) they are better than deep cycle batteries and 12
volts..You will have to make
new connecting bars.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:37
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Delco
Deep Cycle batteries?   
Good
afternoon,

As you might
know, the power has been out in Puerto Rico since Wednesday.

So had to use the genset to recharge the
batteries…
After 1/2 hour the charger
won’t allow more than 3 amp…
Plus after
an hour (even hatch open) the engine room becomes too hot to
keep using the generator (without risking damage to the
control board) - which is another issue I need to address
(and yes, all the fan are working).

Battery choice is limited here in Puerto
Rico… what do you think of AC Delco?
Seems to be the only supplier.

Now I have Group 27.
For those who have the 8 House batteries, will
the Group 31 fit?

If you
know a supplier of Good batteries in Puerto Rico, let me
know

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico
de San Juan, Puerto Rico










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