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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Antal genoa car

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Mike,

Mauri Pro Sailing in the US carries the full range of Antal equipment and parts. If it is not on their web site, then email them.

Mark Pitt, Sabbatical III, ASM #419, currently in Alghero, Sardinia


On 10/1/2016 3:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Does anyone have a source for replacement genoa car for SM2000? Or parts? Antal 40x8. Made in Italy. Cannot find our configuration with beckets/bales both fore and aft on the car.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD



Antal genoa car

Mike Ondra
 

Does anyone have a source for replacement genoa car for SM2000? Or parts?  Antal 40x8. Made in Italy. Cannot find our configuration with beckets/bales both fore and aft on the car.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Locker Lids SM

James Alton
 

Alan,

   One really great thing about fiberglass is that with the proper technique and material, it is possible to restore the strength lost when damaged.  The basics are to remove all of the fractured glass using a grinder.  You don't have to make a big mess on a project like this since there are tools such as the roloc discs that can be chucked into a variable speed drill and operated at a fairly slow speed using 24-36 grit so that a good wet dry vacuum (use a bag rather than just a filter) will pick up 99% of the dust.  Next you need to measure the thickness of the laminate and multiply that dimension by at least 8 and preferably ten to layout your scarfs.  The scarf greatly increases the bonding surface and evens out the load.  It is the same principle as scarfing wood.  The scarf needs to be cut down to a feather edge to restore as much strength as possible.  I believe that in your case that you can add an inside patch over the fracture which would give you a solid Base to hold your feather edges and strengthen the repair as well.  I like to use a vinyl ester resin instead of polyester since the bond is better as are the physicals.   You can also use a good epoxy which bonds great but may not be as hard or as temperature stable unless you use an elevated cure epoxy.  I don't yet know what the layup of that part of an Amel is but generally you try to replace the same fiber orientation and fabric that was used when possible.  The repair once cured needs to be restored to the correct shape per original except you need to make it just a small amount lower to provide room for your gel coat.  Colour matching gel coat and deck patterns can perhaps be the hardest part.  The gel coat is important to protect the resin (especially epoxies) from UK so coat it with something.  

Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno, Maramu 46
Sardinia, Italy



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From: "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 9/30/16 08:24 (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Locker Lids SM

 

A couple of our locker lids....one at the bow, have cracks in the fibreglass, and now bend, where the knob screws down on the lip...

Anyone have a good way of repairing this ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Many sailboats are made without the tube (hose or conduit). I assume that Amel's purpose of the hose is to increase the life of the in-mast wiring. As example, a 35 year-old Maramu had its VHF antenna wire recently replaced for the first time. I have a friend with a Catalina 48 who replaced all of the main mast wiring when it was 8 years old.

On BeBe, 387, the tube (hose) is very visible inside the inspection plate. There is a separation or opening at the first spreader where the radar wire normally connects. There are also several strings placed in the tube by Amel. One string goes to the opening at the first spreader and the other two to the top of the mast. These strings are used to pull new wire. The strings have a piece of plastic tied to the string about every two meters. This makes pulling the string a little difficult, but keeps the strings and wires from wrapping around each other.

Possibly, most Amels are made this way.

Best, 

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Paul
I guess that is why mine is banging inside the mast.It must have come detached and dropped into view!
Hopefully someone may have more knowledge of its installation.
Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96



Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Ian Park
 

Paul
I guess that is why mine is banging inside the mast.It must have come detached and dropped into view!
Hopefully someone may have more knowledge of its installation.
Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Ian, our condiute does not goes all the way down to the inspection hatch, but obviously i drilled a hole just where yo condiute are. So now I have one more hole than needed
Paul SYKerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC earth on SM and SN

tfortner1975
 

Herbert,

Would you happen to have a file or photos of your battery management system lying around you wouldn't mind sharing? 

Thank you. 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 3:56 AM, herbert@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Enio,

understood.

On KALI MERA the connection from AC-ground to the bonding was original (at least it seems so and would make sense), do not know how it is on the other Santorins, but I think it will be the same. Maybe Olivier can jump in and tell us how it really is..  there was also a post from olivier where he explained it in detail.

regarding battery charging: we have 500AH lead acid batteries, we take out not more than 150AH before recharging. Maximal Ampere for charging ist 80A (battery charger can deviler 200A) and that only for a short period, then goes down to ~ 50A.  I have a quite sophisticated battery management with genset, solar panels, shaft alternator and engine and monitor in detail for each device what goes into the battery and what takes energy and try to treat my batteries as good as possible.  Maybe your batteries accept more current than mine.  On KALI MERA a 100A alternator would have marginal impact on charging times and efficiency compared to a 60A  alternator.

fair winds, herbert
KALI MERA, SN120, Trinidad


Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Ian Park
 

It is a separate tube inside the front section of the mast. If you undo the inspection plate at the foot of the mast you should be able to see or feel the bottom of it. Mine was loose and knocking so I had to wedge it with closed cell foam.

Ian  'Ocean Hobo' SN96


Cable in the mizzen mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Today when drilling a hole for a cable in the mizzrn mast, I discovrred to my horror that it sesms to be an innerlining in the "tube"  where the cables are, the

Lining does not cover the whole surface, just maybe a third of the channel closest to the main "tube" where the furled sail is, does anyone know what I'm drilling into?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM #259


Locker Lids SM

Alan Leslie
 

A couple of our locker lids....one at the bow, have cracks in the fibreglass, and now bend, where the knob screws down on the lip...

Anyone have a good way of repairing this ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: Leak detector of mass circuit

Alan Leslie
 

Hi again Herbert

i found it

This is the lamp that is used on the SM

[3073] AMPOULE 24 V 1 W POUR VOYANT SADAR/ Light bulb for 
SARDAR indicator

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: The importance of your transmission oil cooler

rossirossix4
 

It has been a while since the post but I thought I would add this comment for anyone looking at transmission oil cooler issues.  About a year ago we picked up a spare transmission cooler from a dealer in Malta. We met up with Bebe in Siracusa, Sicily and Bill gave us a source for a good deal in Malta, our next stop.  When I received the spare (he delivered it to the boat and we talked a bit), the specialist told me that the part virtually never fails but when it does it is almost always due to over-tightening the hose clamp when reinstalling.  This cracks the soldered joint internally and allows seawater to mix with the ATF.  In examining the new spare it was easy to see how this could happen.  So if you clean or inspect it or even replace it, you or your service tech may want to be careful during the re-installation process to use only a moderate amount of clamping pressure.
Bob, KAIMI SM 429


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

Craig Briggs
 

While the Amel factory may have used fiberglass antennae, on our SN the factory used two sets of isolators. One set on the starboard mizzen backstay for the SSB and a second set on the triactic stay for the weatherfax antenna. I think this was their standard procedure.
Craig, SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Paul,

 

When I installed my SSB I opted to add a fiberglass antenna. This is the way the Amel factory does it. I think the logic is that if you ever lose the rig you (might) still have a SSB antenna. And, adding isolators is adding another potential failure point of the rigging.

 

There are not really performance issues with either method.

 

Another option is to use a GAM / McKim Split Lead Antenna. These have now been around long enough to have been field tested and offer reliable performance. Had I known about this product before installing the antenna, I would have gone this route. It is also fully insulated to prevent shock (as Kent described). Here is a link:

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028695|2029059&id=332511

 

Something else you may consider if you installed a SSB with DSC and auto distress calling. The DSC requires a separate antenna. For this, I used an antenna splitter and used the whether-fax antenna on the triatic stay.

 

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

 

 

I have installed a SSB radio, currently only using a lose cable as antenna. Now I concidder using one of the twin backstay as antenna by installing two insulators. Is there any pit falls or anything special to concidder before proceeding?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 currently in Teneriffe


Re: Leak detector of mass circuit

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Herbert,

No I don;t, they are just small 24V incandescent indicator lamps, same as the ones on an SM 24V breaker panel.

Cheers
Alan


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

Paul Osterberg
 

Bill I missed that oportunity, it was in Lanzarote at the start.
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Let me add one thing to what Mark has said:

If you are part of Jimmy Cornell's Atlantic Odyssey from the Canaries to the Caribbean, Jimmy has a free SSB tuning and consultation with a radio technician from Italy as part of the Odyssey package.

We used the guy to fine tune some of our SSB/Pactor settings which helped us considerably.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:07 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Mark

The split line antenna was my first option, but could not get hold of one in Europe.
Now we are in the Canaries and will soon cross the Atlantic so would be good to have the SSB running on a better antenna than just a cable hanging "loose" along the back stay. Therefore I thought the insulated back stay is a good idea, we have a satphone as back up, and EPIRB so sequrity should not be a major issue for the SSB
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Mark
The split line antenna was my first option, but could not get hold of one in Europe.
Now we are in the Canaries and will soon cross the Atlantic so would be good to have the SSB running on a better antenna than just a cable hanging "loose" along the back stay. Therefore I thought the insulated back stay is a good idea, we have a satphone as back up, and EPIRB so sequrity should not be a major issue for the SSB
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: Leak detector of mass circuit

Herbert Lackner
 

Hi Alan,

do you know the specification of the lamps that are used on the SM?

herbert, SN120 KALI MERA


Re: Rig Tuning, mizzen mast shivering

Paul Osterberg
 

When sailing in rough waves and the boat is "falling" from a wave and hitting a little bit hard, sometimes the mizzen mast is shivering a bit. Do not fell ok with that. I notice that the mizzen after shrouds are less tensioned compared with the rest of the rig, could that be a reason? Have read from the thread that the twin back stay should not be tensioned very hard, as it can be cracks in the transom fastening, but I do think if the mast is worked forward when hitting a wave that will create very high load on the back stay and also stress cracks.

Anyone with experience on this?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

When I installed my SSB I opted to add a fiberglass antenna. This is the way the Amel factory does it. I think the logic is that if you ever lose the rig you (might) still have a SSB antenna. And, adding isolators is adding another potential failure point of the rigging.

 

There are not really performance issues with either method.

 

Another option is to use a GAM / McKim Split Lead Antenna. These have now been around long enough to have been field tested and offer reliable performance. Had I known about this product before installing the antenna, I would have gone this route. It is also fully insulated to prevent shock (as Kent described). Here is a link:

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028695|2029059&id=332511

 

Something else you may consider if you installed a SSB with DSC and auto distress calling. The DSC requires a separate antenna. For this, I used an antenna splitter and used the whether-fax antenna on the triatic stay.

 

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

 

 

I have installed a SSB radio, currently only using a lose cable as antenna. Now I concidder using one of the twin backstay as antenna by installing two insulators. Is there any pit falls or anything special to concidder before proceeding?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 currently in Teneriffe