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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dive Compressor

David Vogel <dbv_au@...>
 

Hi Alex,

Were are you - we may be in the market for one shortly.

B.regards,

David




On Wednesday, 28 September 2016, 10:31, "Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Jean-Pierre,
the reason why I was asking is that the boat I bought has two installed. If someone needs a compresoor, I could make a good offering.
Alex Ramseyer
SY NO STRESS, AMEL54, n15,
alexramseyer@...


On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:28 PM, "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hello Alex,

The most common dive compressor is the Bauer Junior.  However, Robin from SM Gros Doux installed a less expensive German (IIRC) unit which is smaller and ighter.

Look up his blog under “Gros Doux”.  He also answers his emails promptly.  His solution may interest you.

Fair winds,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM007


On 27 Sep 2016, at 09:35, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Thomas,
have you decided for a dive compressor in the meantime?
Kind Regards, Alex
AMEL54 no 15, "NO STRESS"



Jean-Pierre Germain,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

karkauai
 

I looked there, Bill.  No evidence of water coming out there.  Thing is, I've always filled it to just below 1000L with no oroblems until now.  At 1000L on the gauge, there was still a couple of inches of air at the top of the middle tank.
The float still moves freely, but I wonder if it's lost bouyancy somehow?
Most likely suspect is, as Joel (my hero and mentor) suggested, one of the inspection hatches.  I'll investigate further tomorrow.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:35 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect the top of the floating gauge. I have had water bubble out of there when I accidently overfill. On BeBe, 387, it will accumlate in the bilge below the companionway steps.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

karkauai
 

Thanks Joel.  I'll look under the galley fridge, but have never been able to get to the forward tank.  There are some good pics and directions in this forum, but the forward mid-ships corner of the freezer enclosure just will not budge.  What am I missing?

Well, pardner, where the deer and the antelope play, a saloon is where a thirsty cowpoke gets a bottle and a shot glass and washes the trail dust down....
Come to think of it, maybe it is a saloon.
I'd heard both, but being a French boat and "salon" being a French word defined as a "living room" or "gathering place" or "sitting room", I assumed that us Yanks had bastardized the term.

Here's what the Boaters Encyclopedia says:
"Many boaters seem to find the word cabin rather lacking the elegance and significance they associate with their boats. Therefore, they refer to their cabin as a salon, a fancy French term for reception hall or a room filled with perfumed finery.Hairdressers, beauticians, and couturiers have salons; sailors have a saloonThe Encyclopedia of Nautical Knowledge defines a  saloon this way: “In a cargo and smaller passenger vessels, the main  cabin, or that serving as a dining-room, assembly room, etc.” The Oxford Concise Dictionary describes a saloon as a “public room for first-class or for all passengers on ship.”The only dissonant note is sounded by Webster’s New World Dictionary, which allows the use of both salonand saloon but then confesses that saloon is “specifically, the main social cabin of a passenger ship.” Nevertheless, whereas most sailors use the word saloon, most powerboaters seem to prefer salon.It’s possible that some boaters use the word salon because they don’t want their boats to be associated with saloons where strong alcoholic drinks are served and rough men indulge in fisticuffs. But a better choice than either salon or saloon would be cabin. What could be simpler or more correct?"

I stand corrected...guess I'm not that cultured and classy after all.  But I am wiser than I was 30 min ago.  Do you suppose I'll ever grow up?

Kent, aka Rusty, aka Patch
SM 243
Kristy
Currently Curacao

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Kent. Probably one of the tank top access ports needs tightening or the gaskets replaced if you are certain it is not coming in through the top of the water level indicator receiver tube. Kent you are way too cultured and classy to call your saloon a salon.

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

 

 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Kent,
Same thing happened to me as Bill described.  I overfilled tank and it ended up below companionway steps

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:35 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect the top of the floating gauge. I have had water bubble out of there when I accidently overfill. On BeBe, 387, it will accumlate in the bilge below the companionway steps.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Oct 1, 2016 3:41 PM, "karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I suspect the top of the floating gauge. I have had water bubble out of there when I accidently overfill. On BeBe, 387, it will accumlate in the bilge below the companionway steps.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Oct 1, 2016 3:41 PM, "karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

amelforme
 

Hello Kent. Probably one of the tank top access ports needs tightening or the gaskets replaced if you are certain it is not coming in through the top of the water level indicator receiver tube. Kent you are way too cultured and classy to call your saloon a salon.

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

 

 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Water Tank Overflow

karkauai
 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Antal genoa car

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Mike,

Mauri Pro Sailing in the US carries the full range of Antal equipment and parts. If it is not on their web site, then email them.

Mark Pitt, Sabbatical III, ASM #419, currently in Alghero, Sardinia


On 10/1/2016 3:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Does anyone have a source for replacement genoa car for SM2000? Or parts? Antal 40x8. Made in Italy. Cannot find our configuration with beckets/bales both fore and aft on the car.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD



Antal genoa car

Mike Ondra
 

Does anyone have a source for replacement genoa car for SM2000? Or parts?  Antal 40x8. Made in Italy. Cannot find our configuration with beckets/bales both fore and aft on the car.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Locker Lids SM

James Alton
 

Alan,

   One really great thing about fiberglass is that with the proper technique and material, it is possible to restore the strength lost when damaged.  The basics are to remove all of the fractured glass using a grinder.  You don't have to make a big mess on a project like this since there are tools such as the roloc discs that can be chucked into a variable speed drill and operated at a fairly slow speed using 24-36 grit so that a good wet dry vacuum (use a bag rather than just a filter) will pick up 99% of the dust.  Next you need to measure the thickness of the laminate and multiply that dimension by at least 8 and preferably ten to layout your scarfs.  The scarf greatly increases the bonding surface and evens out the load.  It is the same principle as scarfing wood.  The scarf needs to be cut down to a feather edge to restore as much strength as possible.  I believe that in your case that you can add an inside patch over the fracture which would give you a solid Base to hold your feather edges and strengthen the repair as well.  I like to use a vinyl ester resin instead of polyester since the bond is better as are the physicals.   You can also use a good epoxy which bonds great but may not be as hard or as temperature stable unless you use an elevated cure epoxy.  I don't yet know what the layup of that part of an Amel is but generally you try to replace the same fiber orientation and fabric that was used when possible.  The repair once cured needs to be restored to the correct shape per original except you need to make it just a small amount lower to provide room for your gel coat.  Colour matching gel coat and deck patterns can perhaps be the hardest part.  The gel coat is important to protect the resin (especially epoxies) from UK so coat it with something.  

Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno, Maramu 46
Sardinia, Italy



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-------- Original message --------
From: "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 9/30/16 08:24 (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Locker Lids SM

 

A couple of our locker lids....one at the bow, have cracks in the fibreglass, and now bend, where the knob screws down on the lip...

Anyone have a good way of repairing this ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Many sailboats are made without the tube (hose or conduit). I assume that Amel's purpose of the hose is to increase the life of the in-mast wiring. As example, a 35 year-old Maramu had its VHF antenna wire recently replaced for the first time. I have a friend with a Catalina 48 who replaced all of the main mast wiring when it was 8 years old.

On BeBe, 387, the tube (hose) is very visible inside the inspection plate. There is a separation or opening at the first spreader where the radar wire normally connects. There are also several strings placed in the tube by Amel. One string goes to the opening at the first spreader and the other two to the top of the mast. These strings are used to pull new wire. The strings have a piece of plastic tied to the string about every two meters. This makes pulling the string a little difficult, but keeps the strings and wires from wrapping around each other.

Possibly, most Amels are made this way.

Best, 

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Paul
I guess that is why mine is banging inside the mast.It must have come detached and dropped into view!
Hopefully someone may have more knowledge of its installation.
Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96



Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Ian Park
 

Paul
I guess that is why mine is banging inside the mast.It must have come detached and dropped into view!
Hopefully someone may have more knowledge of its installation.
Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Ian, our condiute does not goes all the way down to the inspection hatch, but obviously i drilled a hole just where yo condiute are. So now I have one more hole than needed
Paul SYKerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AC earth on SM and SN

tfortner1975
 

Herbert,

Would you happen to have a file or photos of your battery management system lying around you wouldn't mind sharing? 

Thank you. 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 3:56 AM, herbert@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Enio,

understood.

On KALI MERA the connection from AC-ground to the bonding was original (at least it seems so and would make sense), do not know how it is on the other Santorins, but I think it will be the same. Maybe Olivier can jump in and tell us how it really is..  there was also a post from olivier where he explained it in detail.

regarding battery charging: we have 500AH lead acid batteries, we take out not more than 150AH before recharging. Maximal Ampere for charging ist 80A (battery charger can deviler 200A) and that only for a short period, then goes down to ~ 50A.  I have a quite sophisticated battery management with genset, solar panels, shaft alternator and engine and monitor in detail for each device what goes into the battery and what takes energy and try to treat my batteries as good as possible.  Maybe your batteries accept more current than mine.  On KALI MERA a 100A alternator would have marginal impact on charging times and efficiency compared to a 60A  alternator.

fair winds, herbert
KALI MERA, SN120, Trinidad


Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Ian Park
 

It is a separate tube inside the front section of the mast. If you undo the inspection plate at the foot of the mast you should be able to see or feel the bottom of it. Mine was loose and knocking so I had to wedge it with closed cell foam.

Ian  'Ocean Hobo' SN96


Cable in the mizzen mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Today when drilling a hole for a cable in the mizzrn mast, I discovrred to my horror that it sesms to be an innerlining in the "tube"  where the cables are, the

Lining does not cover the whole surface, just maybe a third of the channel closest to the main "tube" where the furled sail is, does anyone know what I'm drilling into?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM #259


Locker Lids SM

Alan Leslie
 

A couple of our locker lids....one at the bow, have cracks in the fibreglass, and now bend, where the knob screws down on the lip...

Anyone have a good way of repairing this ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: Leak detector of mass circuit

Alan Leslie
 

Hi again Herbert

i found it

This is the lamp that is used on the SM

[3073] AMPOULE 24 V 1 W POUR VOYANT SADAR/ Light bulb for 
SARDAR indicator

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: The importance of your transmission oil cooler

rossirossix4
 

It has been a while since the post but I thought I would add this comment for anyone looking at transmission oil cooler issues.  About a year ago we picked up a spare transmission cooler from a dealer in Malta. We met up with Bebe in Siracusa, Sicily and Bill gave us a source for a good deal in Malta, our next stop.  When I received the spare (he delivered it to the boat and we talked a bit), the specialist told me that the part virtually never fails but when it does it is almost always due to over-tightening the hose clamp when reinstalling.  This cracks the soldered joint internally and allows seawater to mix with the ATF.  In examining the new spare it was easy to see how this could happen.  So if you clean or inspect it or even replace it, you or your service tech may want to be careful during the re-installation process to use only a moderate amount of clamping pressure.
Bob, KAIMI SM 429


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

Craig Briggs
 

While the Amel factory may have used fiberglass antennae, on our SN the factory used two sets of isolators. One set on the starboard mizzen backstay for the SSB and a second set on the triactic stay for the weatherfax antenna. I think this was their standard procedure.
Craig, SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Paul,

 

When I installed my SSB I opted to add a fiberglass antenna. This is the way the Amel factory does it. I think the logic is that if you ever lose the rig you (might) still have a SSB antenna. And, adding isolators is adding another potential failure point of the rigging.

 

There are not really performance issues with either method.

 

Another option is to use a GAM / McKim Split Lead Antenna. These have now been around long enough to have been field tested and offer reliable performance. Had I known about this product before installing the antenna, I would have gone this route. It is also fully insulated to prevent shock (as Kent described). Here is a link:

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028695|2029059&id=332511

 

Something else you may consider if you installed a SSB with DSC and auto distress calling. The DSC requires a separate antenna. For this, I used an antenna splitter and used the whether-fax antenna on the triatic stay.

 

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB Antenna

 

 

I have installed a SSB radio, currently only using a lose cable as antenna. Now I concidder using one of the twin backstay as antenna by installing two insulators. Is there any pit falls or anything special to concidder before proceeding?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 currently in Teneriffe