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Re: Surveyor

ofer magen
 

Hi,
Olivier did the survey also for us in Gocek turkey. I agree with every word that was written by Mohammed. Olivier knows the Amel better than any other as he warked  there for more than 20 years.
The training you get while he is doing the survey has no price.

Ofer Magen
Amel 54 #160
Now in Gocek Turkey


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 4736

sbmesasailor
 

I'm not familiar with the Echotec but I installed a Spectra in my engine compartment and discovered that I had to relocate the feed pump or it would overheat.  Other than that I found no other problems with locating the other components in the engine compartment.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121 


On Saturday, October 22, 2016 1:31 AM, "amelyachtowners@..." wrote:


1 Message

Digest #4736

Message

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Echotec watermaker on old Maramu

Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:

mikon18084

Hi folks, has anyone of the Maramu (not SM) owners here installed an echotec watermaker ? Would be interested to learn where you put all the different components. Curently I am pondering the following options:

1. High pressure pump below the bed in the aft cabin, membran (vertically) and control panel in the aft head.
2. High pressure pump in the front right corner of the engine room and membran (vertically) and controlpanel in the antechamber of the aft cabin
3. High pressure pump below one bed in the forecabin and the mebran (vertically again) in the foreward closet.

Would there be a temperature issue when trying to install pump and membran in the engine room ?

Not sure where to install the filters (and booster pump if necessary) in any case.

Any input is welcome.

Michael, SY Sioned, Maramu # 148





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck

Mike Ondra
 

Just about complete with the reinstallation of the windlass. Question on the last bolt that finishes into the glassed in plate at the hawse pipe. To avoid future difficulty extracting and to be assured that the bolt is well secured, I would like to drill through the bottom of the bolt hole and through-bolt with washer and nut exposed below in the bow locker like the other 3 bolts. Does anyone have ideas about why Amel did not through-bolt this last bolt in the first place? Anyone see a downside for this solution? We are always nervous about varying from what the Captain designed.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: Echotec watermaker on old Maramu

Ian Park
 

I have an Echotec 500 in my Santorin. Control panel on engine room wall in back cabin. Engine driven HP pump beside aft end of engine. Membranes suspended from roof of engine room opposite engine. Filters are in the cockpit locker and I have diverter valve from cockpit shower to flush the filters and membranes direct from boat's water system. Only 1 membrane currently giving 80 l per hour, but considering a 2nd to give 150 l per hour. The same pump will provide the power. There is a new hole in the hull with seacock with filter with a magnetic drive booster pump.
Can't provide photos as I'm in UK and boat's in Grenada. Also not sure of similarity between Santorin and Maramu.

One of best bits of kit on the boat!

Ian
Ocean Hobo
SN96


Echotec watermaker on old Maramu

mkbiz@...
 

Hi folks, has anyone of the Maramu (not SM) owners here installed an echotec watermaker ? Would be interested to learn where you put all the different components. Curently I am pondering the following options:

1. High pressure pump below the bed in the aft cabin, membran (vertically) and control panel in the aft head.
2. High pressure pump in the front right corner of the engine room and membran (vertically) and controlpanel in the antechamber of the aft cabin
3. High pressure pump below one bed in the forecabin and the mebran (vertically again) in the foreward closet.

Would there be a temperature issue when trying to install pump and membran in the engine room ?

Not sure where to install the filters (and booster pump if necessary) in any case.

Any input is welcome.

Michael, SY Sioned, Maramu # 148



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

eric freedman
 

Alan,

When I leave the boat at a marina and am away for a month or more I pay the dockmaster to run my watermaker. I added a switch to the fresh water pump in the engine room , so that the only time the pressure water is on is when they run the watermaker.

Works for me but each case is unique. I just lost faith in sodium- whatever as it destroyed all the fittings and bobbin on my watermaker.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

 

 

Hi Eric,

That's fine if you are near the boat, or can guarantee that you always have enough fresh water and do what Bill on Bebe did with a solenoid valve and a timer to flush the system regularly, but my point was the distinction between SMBsulphate and sulphite which are completely different chemicals.

I prefer to follow what the membrane manufacturer says, rather than what somebody "believes" to be true.

But each to his own....whatever works for you can be fine for you...but maybe not for me...

Cheers

Alan'

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Eric,
That's fine if you are near the boat, or can guarantee that you always have enough fresh water and do what Bill on Bebe did with a solenoid valve and a timer to flush the system regularly, but my point was the distinction between SMBsulphate and sulphite which are completely different chemicals.
I prefer to follow what the membrane manufacturer says, rather than what somebody "believes" to be true.
But each to his own....whatever works for you can be fine for you...but maybe not for me...
Cheers
Alan'
Elyse SM437


Re: Easter Island

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Eric,

Our friends from Colorado did that route in late 2014, on their new boat they had just picked up in France a few months earlier (not an Amel).  

Arrived in Easter and landed but did not complete the paperwork the first day.  Then early in the evening the Swedish boat anchored next to them dragged and was lost to the rocks.  Decided to leave for mainland Chile the next afternoon as the weather kept worsening.  The authorities then said on the radio they had to come back and complete the paperwork or they may not be let in into the mainland.  So our friends went back and spent a day or two ashore, but as the weather was not very cooperative, one of the crew remained aboard for the duration.

We ourselves visited Easter in 1997, but we did it the easy way: we flew in.

Their blog of their visit to Easter is below.  If you hit "older posts" you see  their daily log from Galapagos (14 days) and if you hit "newer posts" you see their photos from their visit and blog of the way around Cape horn and on to the Falkland and Georgia islands.


Cheerio,

Peregrinus
At anchor, Numana (near Ancona, Italy)



---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Has anyone sailed out that way from Panama ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Easter Island

eric freedman
 

Has anyone sailed out that way from Panama ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

eric freedman
 

I believe there are 2 discussions about pickling one is for the winter,  and one is general pickling.

 

After the sodium meta=whatever ate up my end caps- I stopped pickling it, I just run fresh water through it every few weeks when not in use. It has been fine for about 6 years. It is important to replace the prefilters as they do develop some growth in them.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

 

 

And here :

 

Dow Answer Center

Dow Answer Center

Sodium metabisulfite (SMBS) is commonly used for removal of free chlorine and as a biostatic. Other chemical reducing agents exist (e.g., sulfur dioxide), but they are not as cost-effective as SMBS.

Preview by Yahoo

 

 

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

 


Re: Pickling watermaker

Alan Leslie
 

And here :

Dow Answer Center

 


Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Pickling watermaker

Alan Leslie
 

Interestingly Dow Chemical, the manufacturer of the FILMTEC membranes talks of sodium meta bisulphite, not sulphate.

If you want to have the word from the horses mouth about everything to do with Filmtec RO membranes, don't listen to a "dealer" who may know very little and what he does know maybe wrong, go here :

Dow Answer Center

 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Marsden Cove



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor

Mohammad Shirloo
 

HI Steve;

I want to add my endorsement of Olivier. We did fly him to Turkey for the survey of our Amel 54. He was extremely professional and knowlegeable. Olivier spent 3 days during his survey and inspected everything from the top of the mast to the bottom of the keel. One of the extremely important benefits of using Olivier is the training that you receive during the survey which it's importance cannot be understated. Amels are complex boats with many systems and designs that are unique to Amels.

Olivier was also extremely patient with hundreds of questions that we had for him and took time to answer each and every one in detail. I would highly recommend using him so you avoid any potential surprises down the road.


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: Surveyor

danielmfrey63@...
 

Hi

I had Steve Rowles for my Santorin.

Joe Rowles Internationally accredited marine surveyor operating throughout the Eastern Mediterranean

Greetings - Daniel


Re: Surveyor

william_maffei@...
 

I used Fergus Prescott who specializes in Amels. He is British but resides in Turkey. Did a great job in my opinion and was very reasonably priced. If you would like, personal message me and I'd be happy to share his contact information. 

Bill Maffei
SM #195
It's all Good



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor

Jean-Pierre Germain <jgermain@...>
 

+ 1000

Jean-Pierre Germain
ELEUTHERA, SM 007


On 21 Oct 2016, at 13:15, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Steve,

If I were you, instead to take a chance with a non-Amel surveyor that won’t understand the boat, I would fly Olivier, it will be money very well spent.
You coudn’t get better than him.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, October 21, 2016, 6:49 AM


 









Hi
         Does anyone have
contacts for a good surveyor with knowledge of Amels in
Turkey?RegardsSteve










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Steve,

If I were you, instead to take a chance with a non-Amel surveyor that won’t understand the boat, I would fly Olivier, it will be money very well spent.
You coudn’t get better than him.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, October 21, 2016, 6:49 AM


 









Hi
         Does anyone have
contacts for a good surveyor with knowledge of Amels in
Turkey?RegardsSteve










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Surveyor

mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
 

Hi

         Does anyone have contacts for a good surveyor with knowledge of Amels in Turkey?

Regards

Steve


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Instal AC / Genset on Santorin

James Alton
 

Ian,
 
   Great to hear that the prop generator has worked out so well for you.  The alternator and wiring is still in place on my boat but the driving pulley on the shaft was removed.  I will look into reinstalling it and getting the system working again.
 
Thanks,
 
James Alton
 
Maramu 220, Sueno
 
 

---- Original Message ----
From: Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Oct 20, 2016 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Instal AC / Genset on Santorin

 
James
We crossed from Capo Verde to Barbados, 13 days and the batteries were 100% all the way , all instruments, fridge, SSB and autopilot.
In Caribbean as long as we are +5 knots the prop alternator keeps us well charged up.
We got the 2000 watt generator so the hairdryer and heated rollers would work. Peace and harmony rules!
The solar panels and generator are mainly for anchorages. We hardly ever use marinas. They've paid for themselves already.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96 (Grenada)
 
 
---- Original Message ----
From: Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Oct 20, 2016 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Instal AC / Genset on Santorin

 
James
We crossed from Capo Verde to Barbados, 13 days and the batteries were 100% all the way , all instruments, fridge, SSB and autopilot.
In Caribbean as long as we are +5 knots the prop alternator keeps us well charged up.
We got the 2000 watt generator so the hairdryer and heated rollers would work. Peace and harmony rules!
The solar panels and generator are mainly for anchorages. We hardly ever use marinas. They've paid for themselves already.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96 (Grenada)


Re: flexible rubber coupling

Alan Leslie
 

I have seen two Super Maramus with broken coupling bolts because the nuts with spring washers had worked loose.
I put nyloc nuts on mine and check them for tightness after every long motoring...they have never come loose since I put nyloc nuts on them.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437