Bilge pump alarm
ofer magen
Hi to all, A year ago when I was in Gocek turkey, I asked a carbon filter to be installed. In August on the way from Cyprus to Finike, the new hose that was installed has failed and we lost all the water in our water tank,it was spayed in the engine room.... Thanks, Ofer Magen
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel
James Alton
Richards,
I am very glad to hear that you are so happy with your Amel 55. While that boat is out of my cruising budget, it is great to know that Amel is still building boats that make owners happy. The ongoing success of Amel is important I think to all of us.
As someone who is familiar with sailing the 46, 53 and now the 55, I was hoping that you could make some general comparisions between the models based on your own opinion of course.
I am just getting to know my Maramu and have not yet sailed any of the other models, though I have sailed alongside two Super Maramus so the input would be of interest to me. With regards to the Maramu, I was truly expecting to have to make some significant sacrifices in performance and handling based on my previous boat but I have been very pleasantly surprised with the Maramu in both areas. Sailing out of Oblia this month with the wind aft and gusting to over 40, the boat was hitting 9.6 in flat water and well over 10 after the waves built up a little and she began to surf...and it was all quite comfortable. It is clear of course that the pointing ability will not be the best, but it is acceptable and most of my sailing will be with the wind aft of the beam. The handling of the Maramu is what surprised me the most. The turning radius is very good, the boat carries very well, rudder response is excellent at very low speeds with almost no tendency for the bow to blow off. I am looking forward to sailing some of the other designs in the future.
The lines of both the Super Maramu and the Santorin suggest an improvement in performance over the Maramu which would be expected with the evolution of the design and it sounds like the 55 is another step up in that area. For myself, I am quite happy with the Maramu due to the great handling, the fantastic storage under all of the bunks since all of the water is in the bilge and the moderate disp/length ratio of 276 which though a little lighter than I am used to but the motion is still quite nice on the boat. I know nothing of the 55 but I cannot imagine anyone not being happy with any of the Amel designs that I have looked at.
Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Sardinia, Italy
---- Original Message ---- From: Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 7:41 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years.
Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the
Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model.
Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI
Cell 603 767 5330
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years. Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller Newport RI Cell 603 767 5330
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor
mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
Thank you i have taken note of your comments and appreciate the feedback. Regards Steve
On Friday, October 21, 2016 5:23 PM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: HI Steve; I want to add my endorsement of Olivier. We did fly him to Turkey for the survey of our Amel 54. He was extremely professional and knowlegeable. Olivier spent 3 days during his survey and inspected everything from the top of the mast to the bottom of the keel. One of the extremely important benefits of using Olivier is the training that you receive during the survey which it's importance cannot be understated. Amels are complex boats with many systems and designs that are unique to Amels. Olivier was also extremely patient with hundreds of questions that we had for him and took time to answer each and every one in detail. I would highly recommend using him so you avoid any potential surprises down the road. Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #099
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instal AC / Genset on Santorin
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
We did a in out swap with the same rated Gen set at half the price from Bata marine. You can find them on the net it was an exact bolt in exhaust cool and wire harness plugged in. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller Newport RI Cell 603 767 5330
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Mike,
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Personally I would keep it as it is, just add grease, never seen or your favorite lubricant. I believe that if you do that maintenance on a regular basis, like Kent, you won't have problem removing that bolt. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico --------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/22/16, mdondra@verizon.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 22, 2016, 8:03 AM Just about complete with the reinstallation of the windlass. Question on the last bolt that finishes into the glassed in plate at the hawse pipe. To avoid future difficulty extracting and to be assured that the bolt is well secured, I would like to drill through the bottom of the bolt hole and through-bolt with washer and nut exposed below in the bow locker like the other 3 bolts. Does anyone have ideas about why Amel did not through-bolt this last bolt in the first place? Anyone see a downside for this solution? We are always nervous about varying from what the Captain designed.Mike OndraAletes SM#240Rock Hall, MD #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615 -- #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp #yiv2203526615hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp #yiv2203526615ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp .yiv2203526615ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp .yiv2203526615ad p { margin:0;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-mkp .yiv2203526615ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-sponsor #yiv2203526615ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv2203526615 #yiv2203526615ygrp-sponsor #yiv2203526615ygrp-lc #yiv2203526615hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Tm with you on this Eric, I approached the Watermaker with fear and trembling. How to care for it, how to clean it how to pickle it. When to pickle it. How long could you leave it before you should pickle it. I am grateful to the advice from this group which lead me to the fresh water back flush. Now I just back flush with fresh water after every use. There are times I leave it untouched for two months or more when I am away from the boat. I just start it up, run to waste for a few minutes and all good. The membranes are still good. 120 ppm. The pre filter does need changing periodically but that would apply anyway. It is some years since we put any outside water into our tanks. Got to avoid introducing chlorine. Another good bit of advice from this group. Cheers Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
From: "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2016 8:39 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker Alan, When I leave the boat at a marina and am away for a month or more I pay the dockmaster to run my watermaker. I added a switch to the fresh water pump in the engine room , so that the only time the pressure water is on is when they run the watermaker. Works for me but each case is unique. I just lost faith in sodium- whatever as it destroyed all the fittings and bobbin on my watermaker. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:25 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker Hi Eric, That's fine if you are near the boat, or can guarantee that you always have enough fresh water and do what Bill on Bebe did with a solenoid valve and a timer to flush the system regularly, but my point was the distinction between SMBsulphate and sulphite which are completely different chemicals. I prefer to follow what the membrane manufacturer says, rather than what somebody "believes" to be true. But each to his own....whatever works for you can be fine for you...but maybe not for me... Cheers Alan' Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Mike, having been through the same experience I did through bolt. It cant make any difference to the strength. As I said in an earlier post this bolt carries more load than the others being anchored to the hawse pipe. I used the anchor a couple of times before I got it replaced and there was deck flex. If you don't through bolt it I suggest you use a stud (a bolt threaded both ends) and have a nut on top. Why risk the same thing happening again. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
From: "mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2016 2:03 AM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck Just about complete with the reinstallation of the windlass. Question on the last bolt that finishes into the glassed in plate at the hawse pipe. To avoid future difficulty extracting and to be assured that the bolt is well secured, I would like to drill through the bottom of the bolt hole and through-bolt with washer and nut exposed below in the bow locker like the other 3 bolts. Does anyone have ideas about why Amel did not through-bolt this last bolt in the first place? Anyone see a downside for this solution? We are always nervous about varying from what the Captain designed. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, MD
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck
greatketch@...
Mike,
If you think think you have enough threads left in the metal plate, the best thing to do is to use it, and the best way to avoid future problems is to make sure the windlass is well bedded down so it doesn't leak, and use a good thread lubricant on the bolt. Tef-gel, Lanacote, or something similar. The reason Amel put a plate in the deck only for that bolt, is that for the other three bolts there was plenty of room to add proper backing plates under the deck. With the chainpipe right there, there was no room for a backing plate. A bolt and washer is not sufficient to distribute the load from a windlass to an unreinforced deck. Now, since the plate will still be there to help distribute the load, even if you do switch to a thru-bolt, it's not that big a change. Oh, yes and then follow Lofrans recommendations for rebedding the windlass on a regular basis. By the way, I have seen people refer to the plate as "steel", but there is nothing magnetic in my deck there, so I am guessing it is stainless. Bill Kinney SM #160 Harmonie Annapolis, MD
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Re: Surveyor
ofer magen
Hi, Ofer Magen
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 4736
sbmesasailor
I'm not familiar with the Echotec but I installed a Spectra in my engine compartment and discovered that I had to relocate the feed pump or it would overheat. Other than that I found no other problems with locating the other components in the engine compartment. Dennis Johns Libertad Maramu #121
On Saturday, October 22, 2016 1:31 AM, "amelyachtowners@..." wrote: 1 Message
Digest #4736
Message1Echotec watermaker on old MaramuSat Oct 22, 2016 1:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:mikon18084
Hi folks, has anyone of the Maramu (not SM) owners here installed an echotec watermaker ? Would be interested to learn where you put all the different components. Curently I am pondering the following options:
1. High pressure pump below the bed in the aft cabin, membran (vertically) and control panel in the aft head. 2. High pressure pump in the front right corner of the engine room and membran (vertically) and controlpanel in the antechamber of the aft cabin 3. High pressure pump below one bed in the forecabin and the mebran (vertically again) in the foreward closet. Would there be a temperature issue when trying to install pump and membran in the engine room ? Not sure where to install the filters (and booster pump if necessary) in any case. Any input is welcome. Michael, SY Sioned, Maramu # 148
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck
Just about complete with the reinstallation of the windlass. Question on the last bolt that finishes into the glassed in plate at the hawse pipe. To avoid future difficulty extracting and to be assured that the bolt is well secured, I would like to drill through the bottom of the bolt hole and through-bolt with washer and nut exposed below in the bow locker like the other 3 bolts. Does anyone have ideas about why Amel did not through-bolt this last bolt in the first place? Anyone see a downside for this solution? We are always nervous about varying from what the Captain designed. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, MD
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Re: Echotec watermaker on old Maramu
Ian Park
I have an Echotec 500 in my Santorin. Control panel on engine room wall in back cabin. Engine driven HP pump beside aft end of engine. Membranes suspended from roof of engine room opposite engine. Filters are in the cockpit locker and I have diverter valve from cockpit shower to flush the filters and membranes direct from boat's water system. Only 1 membrane currently giving 80 l per hour, but considering a 2nd to give 150 l per hour. The same pump will provide the power. There is a new hole in the hull with seacock with filter with a magnetic drive booster pump.
Can't provide photos as I'm in UK and boat's in Grenada. Also not sure of similarity between Santorin and Maramu. One of best bits of kit on the boat! Ian Ocean Hobo SN96
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Echotec watermaker on old Maramu
mkbiz@...
Hi folks, has anyone of the Maramu (not SM) owners here installed an echotec watermaker ? Would be interested to learn where you put all the different components. Curently I am pondering the following options:
1. High pressure pump below the bed in the aft cabin, membran (vertically) and control panel in the aft head. 2. High pressure pump in the front right corner of the engine room and membran (vertically) and controlpanel in the antechamber of the aft cabin 3. High pressure pump below one bed in the forecabin and the mebran (vertically again) in the foreward closet. Would there be a temperature issue when trying to install pump and membran in the engine room ? Not sure where to install the filters (and booster pump if necessary) in any case. Any input is welcome. Michael, SY Sioned, Maramu # 148
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
eric freedman
Alan, When I leave the boat at a marina and am away for a month or more I pay the dockmaster to run my watermaker. I added a switch to the fresh water pump in the engine room , so that the only time the pressure water is on is when they run the watermaker. Works for me but each case is unique. I just lost faith in sodium- whatever as it destroyed all the fittings and bobbin on my watermaker. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:25 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
Hi Eric, That's fine if you are near the boat, or can guarantee that you always have enough fresh water and do what Bill on Bebe did with a solenoid valve and a timer to flush the system regularly, but my point was the distinction between SMBsulphate and sulphite which are completely different chemicals. I prefer to follow what the membrane manufacturer says, rather than what somebody "believes" to be true. But each to his own....whatever works for you can be fine for you...but maybe not for me... Cheers Alan' Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
Hi Eric,
That's fine if you are near the boat, or can guarantee that you always have enough fresh water and do what Bill on Bebe did with a solenoid valve and a timer to flush the system regularly, but my point was the distinction between SMBsulphate and sulphite which are completely different chemicals. I prefer to follow what the membrane manufacturer says, rather than what somebody "believes" to be true. But each to his own....whatever works for you can be fine for you...but maybe not for me... Cheers Alan' Elyse SM437
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Re: Easter Island
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
Eric,
Our friends from Colorado did that route in late 2014, on their new boat they had just picked up in France a few months earlier (not an Amel). Arrived in Easter and landed but did not complete the paperwork the first day. Then early in the evening the Swedish boat anchored next to them dragged and was lost to the rocks. Decided to leave for mainland Chile the next afternoon as the weather kept worsening. The authorities then said on the radio they had to come back and complete the paperwork or they may not be let in into the mainland. So our friends went back and spent a day or two ashore, but as the weather was not very cooperative, one of the crew remained aboard for the duration. We ourselves visited Easter in 1997, but we did it the easy way: we flew in. Their blog of their visit to Easter is below. If you hit "older posts" you see their daily log from Galapagos (14 days) and if you hit "newer posts" you see their photos from their visit and blog of the way around Cape horn and on to the Falkland and Georgia islands. Cheerio, Peregrinus At anchor, Numana (near Ancona, Italy) ---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote : Has anyone sailed out that way from Panama ? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Easter Island
eric freedman
Has anyone sailed out that way from Panama ? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
eric freedman
I believe there are 2 discussions about pickling one is for the winter, and one is general pickling.
After the sodium meta=whatever ate up my end caps- I stopped pickling it, I just run fresh water through it every few weeks when not in use. It has been fine for about 6 years. It is important to replace the prefilters as they do develop some growth in them. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:01 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
And here :
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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