Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Found the problem with my Onan
What a sleuth! You da man! Kent Robertson .
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Found the problem with my Onan
eric freedman
My MDKAV had numerous fault signals. My genset would run for 30 seconds and stop. First low oil pressure—changed sender— Now new fault code- no fuel- changed fuel pump- Another fault defective water temp sender- changed sender then the dreaded fault 13- change the PCB board had a spare. Same problem and still code 13. That stumped even the Onan factory. The genset was also putting out 53 volts.
Having knowledge of the isolated ground on my Yanmar after completely rewiring the engine, I decided the problem was with the isolated ground and the PCB board was not properly connected to the dc negative from the battery and getting confused as to what to do.
I started at the battery cable and cleaned all of the connections and tested the generator as I cleaned and used corrosion x and tightened the connection.. Finally there was only one connection- the braided ground strap that went to the PCB board. I removed the screw holding it on to the board, cleaned paint off of the board where the ground strap connects to the board and noticed that the screw which held the strap in place was slightly corroded. I cleaned it up added corrosion x and PROBLEM SOLVED.
Fair Winds\ Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: Instal AC / Genset on Santorin
Hello Trevor,
On our Santorin we have a 6kw Northern Lights generator (we run it at 110v or you can run it at 4.8kw @ 220v). We also have a 110v, 18,000 Btu A/C. The Genset is just to port of the main engine - still lots of access room. The A/C compressor is on a shelf to the port side of the engine room that I suspended from the bottom of the lazarette locker. It is a split system with a 12K BTU condenser/fan unit in the dinette seat locker, ducted to the main salon bulkhead, the head and the forward cabin, plus a 6K BTU unit on the shelf over the fuel tank that is ducted into the aft cabin. All have been working without problems for 12 years now (7000 hours on the genset). Also run a 20 gph water maker at 110v with high pressure pump in engine room and controls / membrane on the shelf over the fuel tank. And we have a 110v refrigerator with holding plates - split system with refrigeration under galley counter where original refrig and dry storage area was and freezer under salon dining table where original wine storage used to be. While cruising full time it takes about 45 minutes of generator running each morning and evening to freeze the holding plates, charge batteries and make water. This summer we ran the generator all night at anchor a few nights for A/C as it was so bloody hot in the US and we're too cheap to pay for a marina. Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
Ooops, my bad. Typing before morning coffee... Dessalator says 1% Sodium bisulfite in 20% glycerine for storage and freeze protection.
On Oct 24, 2016, at 09:02, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
For freeze protection Dessalator say 1% SMBS in 20% glycerine. Not glycol.
On Oct 24, 2016, at 08:17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
Patrick McAneny
Do these products protect the system from freezing ? I need to store the boat on the hard for the winter , so I cannot flush it with fresh water weekly .I know people that use potable antifreeze . Is anyone aware of damage done by using antifreeze with glycol ? It was recommended to me by Great Water , the dealer for these watermakers.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 9:47 pm Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker Interestingly Filmtec, the manufacturers of the membranes talk about SMBS - Sodium Meta BiSulphite...not sulphate....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Marsden Cove
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] PCB board for an MDKAV onan generator
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Eric, Onan uses at least 10 different PCB boards and you need to look for the part number you need. BeBe #387 has Onan PCB board 300-5521. Your PCB may be different than mine. I checked ebay and there are some Onan PCB boards priced from $150 - $300, but none listed as a replacement for 300-5521. Are you still in Cartagena? There was a German electronics guy there that made board level repair on anything except PCs. If you can find the boat guy Alberto there, he can bring you to the German. He repaired a board in my Sat Phone...amazing! I also noticed on Ebay that some of the Onan PCBs were labeled as "after market." One of the after market manufacturers is http://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/ They apparently make about 12 different Onan PCBs, but do not list the 300-5521. I would contact them. Another after market Onan PCB maker to contact is Flight Systems. They do not list the 300-5521, but maybe one of these is interchangeable with your PCB: https://www.flightsystems.com/standby-generator-ats-controls/onan-regulators-and-controls.html Bill BeBe 387
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 3:27 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
James, to set the record straight I do not own a 55 however I've done a lot of miles as a captain. They Point high in the low 30's run will down wind. The relocation of the batteries, water tanks, and fuel tanks with the associated hull/keel change make then a faster more comfortable cruiser. There is a fair amount of interior flexibility in the configuration and appointments. Best of luck with your MARAMU they too are wonderful yachts. Well a head of their time when they were built. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller Newport RI Cell 603 767 5330
On Oct 23, 2016, at 12:41, lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Surveyor
mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
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On Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:43 PM, "ofer magen ofermagen@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Hi,
Olivier did the survey also for us in Gocek turkey. I agree with every word that was written by Mohammed. Olivier knows the Amel better than any other as he warked there for more than 20 years. The training you get while he is doing the survey has no price. Ofer Magen
Amel 54 #160 Now in Gocek Turkey
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PCB board for an MDKAV onan generator
eric freedman
Does anyone know of a source of a reasonably priced PCB board part number 327-1533 for an Onan generator model MDKAV ? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
seagasm@...
Yep, readily available from your local Home Brew Shop, cheers!
Best Regards Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM 171
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker
OK,
Here's what I got from Dessalator... Dear Sir,
Thank you for your message.
For the sterilization we use Sodium metabisulphite HP (see specification sheet enclosed and procedure). You need 80gr of it
We don’t recommend to use a cleaning product: Simply rinse your system once a month.
With best regards
Secretary Dessalator Rosyne Castino Note Sodium meta BISULPHITE....not sulphate..... Cheers Alan Elyse Sm437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge pump alarm
VLADIMIR SONSEV
Installation of a bilge pump alarm was one of the first improvements that I implemented on my boat. That is very importent safety related improvment. It is ezy to implement and inexpensive. I just installed a buzzer that cost approximately $2.00 parallel to bilge pump light on 24V panel. The buzzer sits behind the pannel. I highly recommend this improvement to evrybody. Vladimir
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge pump alarm
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Ofer, When Amel joins hoses in the pressurized fresh water system, they use not only some sort of glue, but also 2 clamps. You may know why they do this now. Regarding your gray water pump, I assume that you have the Reya/AMFA "Marina ZZ" Bilge pump. If so, the most likely reasons for it not pumping are, in order, most likely, first:
CW Bill Rouse, Admiral Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Yacht BeBe +1832-380-4970 Global VoiceMail
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM, ofer magen ofermagen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
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Bilge pump alarm
ofer magen
Hi to all, A year ago when I was in Gocek turkey, I asked a carbon filter to be installed. In August on the way from Cyprus to Finike, the new hose that was installed has failed and we lost all the water in our water tank,it was spayed in the engine room.... Thanks, Ofer Magen
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel
James Alton
Richards,
I am very glad to hear that you are so happy with your Amel 55. While that boat is out of my cruising budget, it is great to know that Amel is still building boats that make owners happy. The ongoing success of Amel is important I think to all of us.
As someone who is familiar with sailing the 46, 53 and now the 55, I was hoping that you could make some general comparisions between the models based on your own opinion of course.
I am just getting to know my Maramu and have not yet sailed any of the other models, though I have sailed alongside two Super Maramus so the input would be of interest to me. With regards to the Maramu, I was truly expecting to have to make some significant sacrifices in performance and handling based on my previous boat but I have been very pleasantly surprised with the Maramu in both areas. Sailing out of Oblia this month with the wind aft and gusting to over 40, the boat was hitting 9.6 in flat water and well over 10 after the waves built up a little and she began to surf...and it was all quite comfortable. It is clear of course that the pointing ability will not be the best, but it is acceptable and most of my sailing will be with the wind aft of the beam. The handling of the Maramu is what surprised me the most. The turning radius is very good, the boat carries very well, rudder response is excellent at very low speeds with almost no tendency for the bow to blow off. I am looking forward to sailing some of the other designs in the future.
The lines of both the Super Maramu and the Santorin suggest an improvement in performance over the Maramu which would be expected with the evolution of the design and it sounds like the 55 is another step up in that area. For myself, I am quite happy with the Maramu due to the great handling, the fantastic storage under all of the bunks since all of the water is in the bilge and the moderate disp/length ratio of 276 which though a little lighter than I am used to but the motion is still quite nice on the boat. I know nothing of the 55 but I cannot imagine anyone not being happy with any of the Amel designs that I have looked at.
Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Sardinia, Italy
---- Original Message ---- From: Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 7:41 am Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years.
Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the
Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model.
Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI
Cell 603 767 5330
On Oct 20, 2016, at 0 8:38, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years. Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller Newport RI Cell 603 767 5330
On Oct 20, 2016, at 08:38, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor
mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
Thank you i have taken note of your comments and appreciate the feedback. Regards Steve
On Friday, October 21, 2016 5:23 PM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: HI Steve; I want to add my endorsement of Olivier. We did fly him to Turkey for the survey of our Amel 54. He was extremely professional and knowlegeable. Olivier spent 3 days during his survey and inspected everything from the top of the mast to the bottom of the keel. One of the extremely important benefits of using Olivier is the training that you receive during the survey which it's importance cannot be understated. Amels are complex boats with many systems and designs that are unique to Amels. Olivier was also extremely patient with hundreds of questions that we had for him and took time to answer each and every one in detail. I would highly recommend using him so you avoid any potential surprises down the road. Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #099
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instal AC / Genset on Santorin
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
We did a in out swap with the same rated Gen set at half the price from Bata marine. You can find them on the net it was an exact bolt in exhaust cool and wire harness plugged in. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing Capt Richard Piller Newport RI Cell 603 767 5330
On Oct 20, 2016, at 01:59, tfortner1975@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Mike,
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Personally I would keep it as it is, just add grease, never seen or your favorite lubricant. I believe that if you do that maintenance on a regular basis, like Kent, you won't have problem removing that bolt. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico --------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/22/16, mdondra@verizon.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windlass bolt to deck To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 22, 2016, 8:03 AM Just about complete with the reinstallation of the windlass. Question on the last bolt that finishes into the glassed in plate at the hawse pipe. To avoid future difficulty extracting and to be assured that the bolt is well secured, I would like to drill through the bottom of the bolt hole and through-bolt with washer and nut exposed below in the bow locker like the other 3 bolts. Does anyone have ideas about why Amel did not through-bolt this last bolt in the first place? Anyone see a downside for this solution? 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