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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Found the problem with my Onan

eric freedman
 

Kent,

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Found the problem with my Onan

 

 

What a sleuth!  You da man!

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819

 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Found the problem with my Onan

karkauai
 

What a sleuth!  You da man!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819


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Found the problem with my Onan

eric freedman
 

My MDKAV had numerous fault signals.

My genset would run for 30 seconds and stop.

First low oil pressure—changed sender—

Now new fault code- no fuel- changed fuel pump-

Another fault defective water temp sender- changed sender

then the dreaded fault 13- change the PCB board had a spare.

Same problem and still code 13.

That stumped even the Onan factory.

The genset was also putting out 53 volts.

 

Having knowledge of the isolated ground on my Yanmar after completely rewiring the engine, I decided the problem was with the isolated ground and the PCB board was not properly connected to the dc negative  from the battery and getting confused as to what to do.

 

I started at the battery cable and cleaned all of the connections and tested the generator  as I cleaned and used corrosion x and tightened the connection..

Finally there was only one connection- the braided ground strap that went to the PCB board.

I removed the screw holding it on to the board, cleaned paint off of the board where the ground strap connects to the board and noticed that the screw which held the strap in place was slightly corroded. I cleaned it up added corrosion x and PROBLEM SOLVED.

 

Fair Winds\

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Instal AC / Genset on Santorin

Craig Briggs
 

Hello Trevor,
On our Santorin we have a 6kw Northern Lights generator (we run it at 110v or you can run it at 4.8kw @ 220v). We also have a 110v, 18,000 Btu A/C.  The Genset is just to port of the main engine - still lots of access room.  The A/C compressor is on a shelf to the port side of the engine room that I suspended from the bottom of the lazarette locker. It is a split system with a 12K BTU condenser/fan unit in the dinette seat locker, ducted to the main salon bulkhead, the head and the forward cabin, plus a 6K BTU unit on the shelf over the fuel tank that is ducted into the aft cabin. All have been working without problems for 12 years now (7000 hours on the genset). Also run a 20 gph water maker at 110v with high pressure pump in engine room and controls / membrane on the shelf over the fuel tank. And we have a 110v refrigerator with holding plates - split system with refrigeration under galley counter where original refrig and dry storage area was and freezer under salon dining table where original wine storage used to be. While cruising full time it takes about 45 minutes of generator running each morning and evening to freeze the holding plates, charge batteries and make water. This summer we ran the generator all night at anchor a few nights for A/C as it was so bloody hot in the US and we're too cheap to pay for a marina. 
Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Ooops, my bad.  Typing before morning coffee...  Dessalator says 1% Sodium bisulfite in 20% glycerine for storage and freeze protection.



On Oct 24, 2016, at 09:02, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

For freeze protection Dessalator say 1% SMBS in 20% glycerine.  Not glycol.  

On Oct 24, 2016, at 08:17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do these products protect the system from freezing ? I need to store the boat on the hard for the winter , so I cannot flush it with fresh water weekly .I know people that use potable antifreeze . Is anyone aware of damage done by using antifreeze with glycol ? It was recommended to me by Great Water , the dealer for these watermakers.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 9:47 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

 
Interestingly Filmtec, the manufacturers of the membranes talk about SMBS - Sodium Meta BiSulphite...not sulphate....


Dow Answer Center
 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Marsden Cove


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

For freeze protection Dessalator say 1% SMBS in 20% glycerine.  Not glycol.  

On Oct 24, 2016, at 08:17, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Do these products protect the system from freezing ? I need to store the boat on the hard for the winter , so I cannot flush it with fresh water weekly .I know people that use potable antifreeze . Is anyone aware of damage done by using antifreeze with glycol ? It was recommended to me by Great Water , the dealer for these watermakers.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 9:47 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

 
Interestingly Filmtec, the manufacturers of the membranes talk about SMBS - Sodium Meta BiSulphite...not sulphate....


Dow Answer Center
 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Marsden Cove


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

Patrick McAneny
 

Do these products protect the system from freezing ? I need to store the boat on the hard for the winter , so I cannot flush it with fresh water weekly .I know people that use potable antifreeze . Is anyone aware of damage done by using antifreeze with glycol ? It was recommended to me by Great Water , the dealer for these watermakers.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 9:47 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

 
Interestingly Filmtec, the manufacturers of the membranes talk about SMBS - Sodium Meta BiSulphite...not sulphate....


Dow Answer Center
 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Marsden Cove


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] PCB board for an MDKAV onan generator

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

Onan uses at least 10 different PCB boards and you need to look for the part number you need. BeBe #387 has Onan PCB board 300-5521. Your PCB may be different than mine.

I checked ebay and there are some Onan PCB boards priced from $150 - $300, but none listed as a replacement for 300-5521.

Are you still in Cartagena? There was a German electronics guy there that made board level repair on anything except PCs. If you can find the boat guy Alberto there, he can bring you to the German. He repaired a board in my Sat Phone...amazing!

I also noticed on Ebay that some of the Onan PCBs were labeled as "after market."

One of the after market manufacturers is http://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/ They apparently make about 12 different Onan PCBs, but do not list the 300-5521. I would contact them.

Another after market Onan PCB maker to contact is Flight Systems. They do not list the 300-5521, but maybe one of these is interchangeable with your PCB: https://www.flightsystems.com/standby-generator-ats-controls/onan-regulators-and-controls.html

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 3:27 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone know of a source of a reasonably priced PCB board part number 327-1533 for an Onan generator model MDKAV ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

James, to set the record straight I do not own a 55 however I've done a lot of miles as a captain.  They
Point high in the low
30's run will down wind. The relocation of the batteries, water tanks, and fuel tanks with the associated hull/keel change make then a faster more comfortable cruiser. There is a fair amount of interior flexibility in the configuration and appointments. 
Best of luck with your MARAMU they too are wonderful yachts. Well a head of their time when they were built. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 23, 2016, at 12:41, lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Richards,
 
    I am very glad to hear that you are so happy with your Amel 55.  While that boat is out of my cruising budget, it is great to know that Amel is still building boats that make owners happy.  The ongoing success of Amel is important I think to all of us.
 
   As someone who is familiar with sailing the 46, 53 and now the 55,  I was hoping that you could make some general comparisions between the models based on your own opinion of course. 
 
   I am just getting to know my Maramu and have not yet sailed any of the other models, though I have sailed alongside two Super Maramus so the input would be of interest to me.  With regards to the Maramu,  I was truly expecting to have to make some significant sacrifices in performance and handling based on my previous boat but I have been very pleasantly surprised with the Maramu in both areas.   Sailing out of Oblia this month with the wind aft and gusting to over 40, the boat was hitting 9.6 in flat water and well over 10 after the waves built up a little and she began to surf...and it was all quite comfortable.   It is clear of course that the pointing ability will not be the best, but it is acceptable and most of my sailing will be with the wind aft of the beam.   The handling of the Maramu is what surprised me the most.  The turning radius is very good, the boat carries very well,  rudder response is excellent at very low speeds with almost no tendency for the bow to blow off.  I am looking forward to sailing some of the other designs in the future.
 
   The lines of both the Super Maramu and the Santorin suggest an improvement in performance over the Maramu which would be expected with the evolution of the design and it sounds like the 55 is another step up in that area.  For myself,  I am quite happy with the Maramu due to the great handling, the fantastic storage under all of the bunks since all of the water is in the bilge and the moderate disp/length ratio of 276 which though a little lighter than I am used to but the motion is still quite nice on the boat.   I know nothing of the 55 but I cannot imagine anyone not being happy with any of the Amel designs that I have looked at.
 
Best,
 
James Alton
 
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy
 
 
---- Original Message ----
From: Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 7:41 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel

 
The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years. 
Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the
Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 20, 2016, at 0 8:38, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
John,

I have only owned a Super Maramu...a 2003 model. I am a huge fan of Amel.

I will attempt to tell you my limited understanding of the comparison...hopefully I will not ramble too much, but appologies if I do:
As an Amel SM 53 owner, my first reaction to the 55 was, "...what are they crazy, what the heck are they thinking?" It was such a departure from what I thought of Amel that it did not immediately compute to me. Most of the reason for my impression was the fault of Amel management...they overlooked using the power of Amel owners to introduce a new product. In this day and time, that was a big mistake, one that could be corrected, but is still overlooked.

The 55 is more of a different boat than the previous Amel models and the 55 has not been accepted by previous owners as much as the previous models were. Of course, this stands to reason because with each model progression prior to the 55, the new models carried over 'tried and true' Henri Amel designs mostly with a blind eye to change. I could argue that this was very good, but if you asked me to argue the other side, I could argue that it was bad. This is something that regrettably Amel did a poor job of. In their defense, they had never made a design change as radical as the 55 and maybe they simply did not realize how to "launch a really new product."

The 55 has a completely different keel than the 53 or 54 which allows it to point better and sail faster. This means the freshwater is relocated and the water gauge is missing. The 55 has batteries stored in the cabin sole in a watertight compartment rather than above the waterline in a water tight compartment as in the 53 and 54...there are advantages to either design...we were accustomed to the latter. The rigging is inside the life line to make it point better and sail faster. The ru dder is further back making it turn faster and it allows the rudder gear and autopilots to be in a compartment inside the rear lazarette. If you like galleys and galley conveniences, you will love the 55. The freeboard is higher giving the 55 more interior room and volume. The cockpit is deeper for greater protection, but it is more difficult to get in and out of as compared to the 53 & 54. The table in the cockpit is great, but it requires extra steps to get in the engine room.

I think the 55 is a yacht that is something like a sailing yacht that Oyster would make if they wanted to knock-off Amel. I also think that Amel management did a terrible job of utilizing the power of probably at least 1,000 Amel owners to promote the 55. Amel could have pitched the 55 and all of its changes, features and benefits to Amel Owners around the world, and some of us could have helped the launch of the 55. But they ignore us...or at the very least, they ignore me.

Maybe y ou should email Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...>. He has owned several Amels including 53 and 54. He has been looking closely at the 55. He may have what you are looking for.

I think that you will see more negative remarks from 53 and 54 owners than you will from new Amel 55 owners, but hopefully my explanation above will explain that and you can take that into consideration.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:32 AM, John Folino jfolino901@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I am interested in hearing reports from owners of the Amel 55' versus the SM 53' which I have previously owned from 2001 to 2014 SM #347 Sulajon, I am interested in any quirks that seem to be common amongst the 55'?
John Folino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Surveyor

mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...
 

Thank you for the feedback much appericated it. 



Sent from Yahoo Mail. Get the app


On Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:43 PM, "ofer magen ofermagen@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi,
Olivier did the survey also for us in Gocek turkey. I agree with every word that was written by Mohammed. Olivier knows the Amel better than any other as he warked  there for more than 20 years.
The training you get while he is doing the survey has no price.
Ofer Magen
Amel 54 #160
Now in Gocek Turkey



PCB board for an MDKAV onan generator

eric freedman
 

Does anyone know of a source of a reasonably priced PCB board part number 327-1533 for an Onan generator model MDKAV ?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

seagasm
 

Yep, readily available from your local Home Brew Shop, cheers!

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pickling watermaker

Alan Leslie
 

OK,

Here's what I got from Dessalator...

Dear Sir,

 

Thank you for your message.

 

For the sterilization we use Sodium metabisulphite HP (see specification sheet enclosed and procedure). You need 80gr of it

 

We don’t recommend to use a cleaning product: Simply rinse your system once a month.

 

With best regards

 

Secretary Dessalator

Rosyne Castino



Note Sodium meta BISULPHITE....not sulphate.....

Cheers
Alan
Elyse Sm437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge pump alarm

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Installation of a bilge pump alarm was one of the first improvements that I implemented on my boat. That is very importent safety related improvment. It is ezy to implement and inexpensive. I just installed a buzzer that cost approximately $2.00 parallel to bilge pump light on 24V panel. The buzzer sits behind the pannel. I highly recommend this improvement to evrybody.

Vladimir
SM 345  "Life is Good"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge pump alarm

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ofer,

When Amel joins hoses in the pressurized fresh water system, they use not only some sort of glue, but also 2 clamps. You may know why they do this now.

Regarding your gray water pump, I assume that you have the Reya/AMFA "Marina ZZ" Bilge pump. 

If so, the most likely reasons for it not pumping are, in order, most likely, first:
  1. Air leaking on the suction side of the pump. If the hose is brittle and not flexible anymore replace it and use two hose clamps on each end
  2. Water leaking out at the Joker Valve at the foot. Remove the hose from the pump, fill the hose with water, if it leaks out, replace the Joker Valve at the foot..buy 2 or 3 of these and replace the one you have...store them inside of something ridged so that they do not get deformed.
  3. If the above are OK and you still have the problem, the pump needs a rebuilt kit consisting of a new diaphragm and two flapper valves...get the kit from Amel...there are copies being sold by others that are terrible, do not even try them!
  4.  The pump mechanical parts have failed. The most common part that fails is the white Delrin® gear (looks like Nylon). Get it from Amel.
CW Bill Rouse, Admiral Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Yacht BeBe
+1832-380-4970 Global VoiceMail


On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM, ofer magen ofermagen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi to all,

A year ago when I was in Gocek turkey, I asked a carbon filter to be installed. In August on the way from Cyprus to Finike, the new hose that was installed has failed and we lost all the water in our water tank,it was spayed in the engine room....
I fixed it and a day later it  happened again, and as our frigis are using fresh water instead of sea water, the pump was pumping air and died.
We decided to install an alarm on the bilge pump so we can hear evrytime it's working.
Now the bilge pump itself does not pump  and we knew it immediately and could pump manually, as the alarm didn't stop.
The pump is just pushing air out.
It looks like I have to replace the down hose and the valve in the small box in the bottom.
More ideas?

Thanks,

Ofer Magen
Alba Amel 54 #160
Gocek Turkey.



Bilge pump alarm

ofer magen
 

Hi to all,

A year ago when I was in Gocek turkey, I asked a carbon filter to be installed. In August on the way from Cyprus to Finike, the new hose that was installed has failed and we lost all the water in our water tank,it was spayed in the engine room....
I fixed it and a day later it  happened again, and as our frigis are using fresh water instead of sea water, the pump was pumping air and died.
We decided to install an alarm on the bilge pump so we can hear evrytime it's working.
Now the bilge pump itself does not pump  and we knew it immediately and could pump manually, as the alarm didn't stop.
The pump is just pushing air out.
It looks like I have to replace the down hose and the valve in the small box in the bottom.
More ideas?

Thanks,

Ofer Magen
Alba Amel 54 #160
Gocek Turkey.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel

James Alton
 

Richards,
 
    I am very glad to hear that you are so happy with your Amel 55.  While that boat is out of my cruising budget, it is great to know that Amel is still building boats that make owners happy.  The ongoing success of Amel is important I think to all of us.
 
   As someone who is familiar with sailing the 46, 53 and now the 55,  I was hoping that you could make some general comparisions between the models based on your own opinion of course. 
 
   I am just getting to know my Maramu and have not yet sailed any of the other models, though I have sailed alongside two Super Maramus so the input would be of interest to me.  With regards to the Maramu,  I was truly expecting to have to make some significant sacrifices in performance and handling based on my previous boat but I have been very pleasantly surprised with the Maramu in both areas.   Sailing out of Oblia this month with the wind aft and gusting to over 40, the boat was hitting 9.6 in flat water and well over 10 after the waves built up a little and she began to surf...and it was all quite comfortable.   It is clear of course that the pointing ability will not be the best, but it is acceptable and most of my sailing will be with the wind aft of the beam.   The handling of the Maramu is what surprised me the most.  The turning radius is very good, the boat carries very well,  rudder response is excellent at very low speeds with almost no tendency for the bow to blow off.  I am looking forward to sailing some of the other designs in the future.
 
   The lines of both the Super Maramu and the Santorin suggest an improvement in performance over the Maramu which would be expected with the evolution of the design and it sounds like the 55 is another step up in that area.  For myself,  I am quite happy with the Maramu due to the great handling, the fantastic storage under all of the bunks since all of the water is in the bilge and the moderate disp/length ratio of 276 which though a little lighter than I am used to but the motion is still quite nice on the boat.   I know nothing of the 55 but I cannot imagine anyone not being happy with any of the Amel designs that I have looked at.
 
Best,
 
James Alton
 
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy
 
 

---- Original Message ----
From: Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 7:41 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel

 
The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years. 
Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the
Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 20, 2016, at 0 8:38, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
John,

I have only owned a Super Maramu...a 2003 model. I am a huge fan of Amel.

I will attempt to tell you my limited understanding of the comparison...hopefully I will not ramble too much, but appologies if I do:
As an Amel SM 53 owner, my first reaction to the 55 was, "...what are they crazy, what the heck are they thinking?" It was such a departure from what I thought of Amel that it did not immediately compute to me. Most of the reason for my impression was the fault of Amel management...they overlooked using the power of Amel owners to introduce a new product. In this day and time, that was a big mistake, one that could be corrected, but is still overlooked.

The 55 is more of a different boat than the previous Amel models and the 55 has not been accepted by previous owners as much as the previous models were. Of course, this stands to reason because with each model progression prior to the 55, the new models carried over 'tried and true' Henri Amel designs mostly with a blind eye to change. I could argue that this was very good, but if you asked me to argue the other side, I could argue that it was bad. This is something that regrettably Amel did a poor job of. In their defense, they had never made a design change as radical as the 55 and maybe they simply did not realize how to "launch a really new product."

The 55 has a completely different keel than the 53 or 54 which allows it to point better and sail faster. This means the freshwater is relocated and the water gauge is missing. The 55 has batteries stored in the cabin sole in a watertight compartment rather than above the waterline in a water tight compartment as in the 53 and 54...there are advantages to either design...we were accustomed to the latter. The rigging is inside the life line to make it point better and sail faster. The ru dder is further back making it turn faster and it allows the rudder gear and autopilots to be in a compartment inside the rear lazarette. If you like galleys and galley conveniences, you will love the 55. The freeboard is higher giving the 55 more interior room and volume. The cockpit is deeper for greater protection, but it is more difficult to get in and out of as compared to the 53 & 54. The table in the cockpit is great, but it requires extra steps to get in the engine room.

I think the 55 is a yacht that is something like a sailing yacht that Oyster would make if they wanted to knock-off Amel. I also think that Amel management did a terrible job of utilizing the power of probably at least 1,000 Amel owners to promote the 55. Amel could have pitched the 55 and all of its changes, features and benefits to Amel Owners around the world, and some of us could have helped the launch of the 55. But they ignore us...or at the very least, they ignore me.

Maybe y ou should email Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...>. He has owned several Amels including 53 and 54. He has been looking closely at the 55. He may have what you are looking for.

I think that you will see more negative remarks from 53 and 54 owners than you will from new Amel 55 owners, but hopefully my explanation above will explain that and you can take that into consideration.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:32 AM, John Folino jfolino901@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I am interested in hearing reports from owners of the Amel 55' versus the SM 53' which I have previously owned from 2001 to 2014 SM #347 Sulajon, I am interested in any quirks that seem to be common amongst the 55'?
John Folino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 55' Amel

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

The new 55 AMEL is a wonderful sailing and live aboard yacht of the moderne era she's easy to in the sea way and comfortable on the hook. I know this as I've got over 1500 miles aboard doing and ocean race as well as Crusing parts of New England as a captain of a well maintained 55. To be sure the 46, 53, and 54's are wonderful yachts as I've owned and or sailed them for over 20 years. 
Change is always difficult for all of us, for example the transition from alcohol to propane. You get the
Picture. If you are considering a 55 go to the factory and do a sea trial. Be careful you may just fall in love with a younger model. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 20, 2016, at 08:38, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

John,

I have only owned a Super Maramu...a 2003 model. I am a huge fan of Amel.

I will attempt to tell you my limited understanding of the comparison...hopefully I will not ramble too much, but appologies if I do:
As an Amel SM 53 owner, my first reaction to the 55 was, "...what are they crazy, what the heck are they thinking?" It was such a departure from what I thought of Amel that it did not immediately compute to me. Most of the reason for my impression was the fault of Amel management...they overlooked using the power of Amel owners to introduce a new product. In this day and time, that was a big mistake, one that could be corrected, but is still overlooked.

The 55 is more of a different boat than the previous Amel models and the 55 has not been accepted by previous owners as much as the previous models were. Of course, this stands to reason because with each model progression prior to the 55, the new models carried over 'tried and true' Henri Amel designs mostly with a blind eye to change. I could argue that this was very good, but if you asked me to argue the other side, I could argue that it was bad. This is something that regrettably Amel did a poor job of. In their defense, they had never made a design change as radical as the 55 and maybe they simply did not realize how to "launch a really new product."

The 55 has a completely different keel than the 53 or 54 which allows it to point better and sail faster. This means the freshwater is relocated and the water gauge is missing. The 55 has batteries stored in the cabin sole in a watertight compartment rather than above the waterline in a water tight compartment as in the 53 and 54...there are advantages to either design...we were accustomed to the latter. The rigging is inside the life line to make it point better and sail faster. The rudder is further back making it turn faster and it allows the rudder gear and autopilots to be in a compartment inside the rear lazarette. If you like galleys and galley conveniences, you will love the 55. The freeboard is higher giving the 55 more interior room and volume. The cockpit is deeper for greater protection, but it is more difficult to get in and out of as compared to the 53 & 54. The table in the cockpit is great, but it requires extra steps to get in the engine room.

I think the 55 is a yacht that is something like a sailing yacht that Oyster would make if they wanted to knock-off Amel. I also think that Amel management did a terrible job of utilizing the power of probably at least 1,000 Amel owners to promote the 55. Amel could have pitched the 55 and all of its changes, features and benefits to Amel Owners around the world, and some of us could have helped the launch of the 55. But they ignore us...or at the very least, they ignore me.

Maybe you should email Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...>. He has owned several Amels including 53 and 54. He has been looking closely at the 55. He may have what you are looking for.

I think that you will see more negative remarks from 53 and 54 owners than you will from new Amel 55 owners, but hopefully my explanation above will explain that and you can take that into consideration.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:32 AM, John Folino jfolino901@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am interested in hearing reports from owners of the Amel 55' versus the SM 53' which I have previously owned from 2001 to 2014 SM #347 Sulajon, I am interested in any quirks that seem to be common amongst the 55'?
John Folino



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor

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Thank you i have taken note of your comments and appreciate the feedback.

Regards
Steve
 


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On Friday, October 21, 2016 5:23 PM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
HI Steve;

I want to add my endorsement of Olivier. We did fly him to Turkey for the survey of our Amel 54. He was extremely professional and knowlegeable. Olivier spent 3 days during his survey and inspected everything from the top of the mast to the bottom of the keel. One of the extremely important benefits of using Olivier is the training that you receive during the survey which it's importance cannot be understated. Amels are complex boats with many systems and designs that are unique to Amels.

Olivier was also extremely patient with hundreds of questions that we had for him and took time to answer each and every one in detail. I would highly recommend using him so you avoid any potential surprises down the road.


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instal AC / Genset on Santorin

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

We did a in out swap with the same rated Gen set at half the price from Bata marine. You can find them on the net it was an exact bolt in exhaust cool and wire harness plugged in. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 20, 2016, at 01:59, tfortner1975@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all,


Has any of the SN owners ever installed an AC and Genset? 

Just looking to see what others have done in the last and possibly gain some lessons learnt by others. 


Thanks heaps. 


Trevor 

Iris, SN027

Langkawi