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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu bow thruster service.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning James,
I really appreciate the kind message, but unfortunately I am far from being an expert….
All I did was to illustrate what Gary Silver wrote with annotation from Bill Rouse.
The credit should go to them, they are major contributors on this forum, as well as Olivier, Joel, etc.

I am personally very happy my illustration is being use and will continue to make some.

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Mon, 11/14/16, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu bow thruster service.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 14, 2016, 6:18 PM


 









Hello,
   Alexandre, one of the
experts on this forum created  beautifully detailed
instructions on how to rebuild the bow thruster.  These
instructions at the link below also show how you can replace
your seals with the boat still in the water.
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html
James AltonSV, Sueno,  Maramu
#220Arbatax,
 Italy
On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:31 PM, sail2live@hotmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
The large upper seal on our
Maramu thruster does not appear removable from above, I.e.
from inside the boat.  Has anyone replaced the thruster
seals on a maramu while the boat is in the water?
Out boat is a 1987
Maramu, currently in Ft Lauderdale.













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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Vladimir,
                     I put it a few inches forward of the anchor winch, dead centre. The deck is really thick at that point. It looks as though it was installed at the factory, really neat.

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres


On 14 Nov 2016, at 20:44, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Ian,

Please let me know precise location of your wash down deck connecter. Obviously it is very important to make it right the first time.

Vladimir
202 258 1916


On Nov 14, 2016 14:20, "Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Vlad and Ric,


We fitted the stainless flush deck hose connector after we saw it on another SM. Very neat. Means that you can connect a hose without having to open the port bow locker. We also fitted a more powerful sea water pump than the Amel version. The combination works very well.


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres


From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 November 2016 17:23:08
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash
 
I found that Johnson (not perko) makes a stainless flush deck hose connector that connects under full pressure with a bayonet. Has a rotating cover. Donovan marine sells it. Putting on my Santa list
SN 24 BaliHai

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc

On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Vlad,
Yes, the locker has to be open or the hose gets pinched.  It's not ideal, but no new hole in the deck.  I don't use the original washdown nozzle at the bow roller at all.  When single handing I tie the nozzle on the rail while I go to the cockpit to turn the pump on.  It's a powerful jet that is like a big spitting snake when loose on the deck.

Once an inexperienced crew accidentally turned the pump on when cleaning by the helm.  By the time I discovered it, the bow lockers were almost full of sea water!  But the boat was on the waterline for the first time ever!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] anchor chain wash

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Jean-Pierre,

Thanks, but it is expencive for me to use fresh water for washing anchor chain.

Sorry, but I don't remember if you told me that you found a supplier for Multifunctional knob for Raymarine chartplotter  C90/W?

Vladimir
SM #345 "LIFE IS GOOD"
202 258 1916


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu bow thruster service.

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

I guess you can following the procedure to service the bow thruster whilst at sea (in port or riding at Anchor, calm water only).
if the lower-inner seal has not been glued (conntact cement)to to the hull, lift by hand to bottom of motor; otherwise cut off, clean & remove -replace by temporary seal cut off from old cushions
position the collar as indicated in procedure (allow unit to b lowered halfway to disengage motor
position foam (cut to size around base of shaft (to rest & support weight without damage to hull)
lower unit to rest position, unscrew motor & lift motor to separate from shaft ...
replace upper seal & reposition motor ...

However, seems best & more secure to replace both seals during dry dock, safely on the dry, as ingress of water (if any) will be due mostly to lower-outer seal condition.
Meanwhile, cut off foam seal & remove, cut neoprene seal to size; slit & fit around base & add foam on top to soften weight when lowered.

I have been struggling with poorly maintained thruster this spring, & concur with the 'Word' : preventive maintenance on regular basis - no shortcuts with our boats.

fair winds

christian Alby, Maramu #168 Désirade VIII - Canet S/France



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De : "sail2live@... [amelyachtowners]"
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Envoyé le : Lundi 14 novembre 2016 21h31
Objet : [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu bow thruster service.

 
The large upper seal on our Maramu thruster does not appear removable from above, I.e. from inside the boat.  Has anyone replaced the thruster seals on a maramu while the boat is in the water?
Out boat is a 1987 Maramu, currently in Ft Lauderdale.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu bow thruster service.

James Alton
 

Hello,

   Alexandre, one of the experts on this forum created  beautifully detailed instructions on how to rebuild the bow thruster.  These instructions at the link below also show how you can replace your seals with the boat still in the water.


James Alton
SV, Sueno,  Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy

On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:31 PM, sail2live@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

The large upper seal on our Maramu thruster does not appear removable from above, I.e. from inside the boat.  Has anyone replaced the thruster seals on a maramu while the boat is in the water?
Out boat is a 1987 Maramu, currently in Ft Lauderdale.





Re: Amel Maramu bow thruster service.

James Alton
 

Hello,

   There are three seals for the bow thruster on my 1987 Maramu.  2 - foam seals that seat between the thruster foot and the bottom of the cavity that the thruster retracts into.  Then there are 2 large O rings set into grooves that are only visible once the bow thruster is removed.  On top of the inside of the hull is 1 foam seal that is compressed when the BT is in the down position.  To replace any of the seals, you will need to remove the foot of the bow thruster.  

   It would help if you would post your name, vessel name, type and hull number.

Best,

James
SV,  Sueno,  Maramu #220


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] anchor chain wash

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Vladimir,

I went about the problem differently; installed a connection from the forward heads to the anchor wash line.  Fresh water anchor wash.

Also installed a fresh water wash system in the port lazarette.  Long hose and you wash the entire boat with fresh H2O…

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007
Lanzarote


On 14 Nov 2016, at 13:30, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Now I sail in Chesapeake Bay and most of my anchoring is in the mud. Anchor wash on my SM 2000 is useless. I belive that real solution is installation of deck wash connection on the bow. I plan redirect chain wash to a deck wash connector. It can be used for salt water boat wash or shower aswell. You don't need high water pressure if you use hose for anchor or chain wash.

I seriously contemplate flat through deck installation of  deck wash fitting. I see on line flat deck wash connectors are made by Johnson Pump or by Jubsco.

Did anybody install deck wash connector fitting on Amel SM?

Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good"


On Nov 7, 2016 11:37 PM, "'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Patrick,

 

Thank you (and thank the others who have kindly responded to my call for help).  I think that I see how it goes.  The copper pipe is embedded in the fiberglass.  The yard is going to lay up the new fiberglass around a copper pipe as it used to be.   The higher pressure pump that you and others have suggested is a good idea and I may do someday.  For now, I (and the insurance company) will settle for putting it back like it was.  

 

Regards,

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug, sm216  in a shed in Portsmouth, RI




Jean-Pierre Germain,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Ian,

Please let me know precise location of your wash down deck connecter. Obviously it is very important to make it right the first time.

Vladimir
202 258 1916


On Nov 14, 2016 14:20, "Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Vlad and Ric,


We fitted the stainless flush deck hose connector after we saw it on another SM. Very neat. Means that you can connect a hose without having to open the port bow locker. We also fitted a more powerful sea water pump than the Amel version. The combination works very well.


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres


From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 November 2016 17:23:08
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash
 
I found that Johnson (not perko) makes a stainless flush deck hose connector that connects under full pressure with a bayonet. Has a rotating cover. Donovan marine sells it. Putting on my Santa list
SN 24 BaliHai

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc

On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Vlad,
Yes, the locker has to be open or the hose gets pinched.  It's not ideal, but no new hole in the deck.  I don't use the original washdown nozzle at the bow roller at all.  When single handing I tie the nozzle on the rail while I go to the cockpit to turn the pump on.  It's a powerful jet that is like a big spitting snake when loose on the deck.

Once an inexperienced crew accidentally turned the pump on when cleaning by the helm.  By the time I discovered it, the bow lockers were almost full of sea water!  But the boat was on the waterline for the first time ever!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Amel Maramu bow thruster service.

curtepp
 

The large upper seal on our Maramu thruster does not appear removable from above, I.e. from inside the boat.  Has anyone replaced the thruster seals on a maramu while the boat is in the water?
Out boat is a 1987 Maramu, currently in Ft Lauderdale.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Vlad and Ric,


We fitted the stainless flush deck hose connector after we saw it on another SM. Very neat. Means that you can connect a hose without having to open the port bow locker. We also fitted a more powerful sea water pump than the Amel version. The combination works very well.


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres


From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: 14 November 2016 17:23:08
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash
 
I found that Johnson (not perko) makes a stainless flush deck hose connector that connects under full pressure with a bayonet. Has a rotating cover. Donovan marine sells it. Putting on my Santa list
SN 24 BaliHai

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Vlad,
Yes, the locker has to be open or the hose gets pinched.  It's not ideal, but no new hole in the deck.  I don't use the original washdown nozzle at the bow roller at all.  When single handing I tie the nozzle on the rail while I go to the cockpit to turn the pump on.  It's a powerful jet that is like a big spitting snake when loose on the deck.

Once an inexperienced crew accidentally turned the pump on when cleaning by the helm.  By the time I discovered it, the bow lockers were almost full of sea water!  But the boat was on the waterline for the first time ever!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

I found that Johnson (not perko) makes a stainless flush deck hose connector that connects under full pressure with a bayonet. Has a rotating cover. Donovan marine sells it. Putting on my Santa list
SN 24 BaliHai

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Vlad,
Yes, the locker has to be open or the hose gets pinched.  It's not ideal, but no new hole in the deck.  I don't use the original washdown nozzle at the bow roller at all.  When single handing I tie the nozzle on the rail while I go to the cockpit to turn the pump on.  It's a powerful jet that is like a big spitting snake when loose on the deck.

Once an inexperienced crew accidentally turned the pump on when cleaning by the helm.  By the time I discovered it, the bow lockers were almost full of sea water!  But the boat was on the waterline for the first time ever!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

karkauai
 

Hi Vlad,
Yes, the locker has to be open or the hose gets pinched.  It's not ideal, but no new hole in the deck.  I don't use the original washdown nozzle at the bow roller at all.  When single handing I tie the nozzle on the rail while I go to the cockpit to turn the pump on.  It's a powerful jet that is like a big spitting snake when loose on the deck.

Once an inexperienced crew accidentally turned the pump on when cleaning by the helm.  By the time I discovered it, the bow lockers were almost full of sea water!  But the boat was on the waterline for the first time ever!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Kent,

Thanks. Do you have to keep port locker partially open when you use washdown hose? Is your hose connection in the locker? Do you shot off water to the original anchor wash outlet?
I am reluctant to make a hole in the deck for washdown connector but I have to make good  improvement.

VLADIMIR
SM 345
202 258 1916


On Nov 14, 2016 11:17 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hola Vlad,
I installed a "Y" connector in the hose in the port bow locker.  A 12 ft (3m) hose is kept in the locker and works well with the high pressure anchor wash pump for getting mud off of the chain before it gets on the boat.  I think you will want to use a high pressure pump to clean the chain and anchor.  Low pressure won't be useful for that.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

karkauai
 

Hola Vlad,
I installed a "Y" connector in the hose in the port bow locker.  A 12 ft (3m) hose is kept in the locker and works well with the high pressure anchor wash pump for getting mud off of the chain before it gets on the boat.  I think you will want to use a high pressure pump to clean the chain and anchor.  Low pressure won't be useful for that.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: Help - 5-Year Plan

devaxmangor@...
 

Thank you Dennis.

I'll be looking at the USPS offerings. Always thought that was for motorboats but makes sense that many things would be useful to both.

Cheers,

Rick Gutierrez


Re: Help - 5-Year Plan

devaxmangor@...
 

Wow! Alexandre, thank you so much for all the links. I will be downloading them all to my iPad and reading through them.

Take care,

Rick Gutierrez


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

I recently saw a perko flush deck hose connector on a power boat. The hose snaps in like a typical quick connect hose. The hose is a light, short tight coil. No experience with it. Interesting though. Use both. 
Bali Hai SN 24
Annapolis

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Now I sail in Chesapeake Bay and most of my anchoring is in the mud. Anchor wash on my SM 2000 is useless. I belive that real solution is installation of deck wash connection on the bow. I plan redirect chain wash to a deck wash connector. It can be used for salt water boat wash or shower aswell. You don't need high water pressure if you use hose for anchor or chain wash.

I seriously contemplate flat through deck installation of  deck wash fitting. I see on line flat deck wash connectors are made by Johnson Pump or by Jubsco.

Did anybody install deck wash connector fitting on Amel SM?

Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good"


On Nov 7, 2016 11:37 PM, "'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Patrick,

 

Thank you (and thank the others who have kindly responded to my call for help).  I think that I see how it goes.  The copper pipe is embedded in the fiberglass.  The yard is going to lay up the new fiberglass around a copper pipe as it used to be.   The higher pressure pump that you and others have suggested is a good idea and I may do someday.  For now, I (and the insurance company) will settle for putting it back like it was.  

 

Regards,

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug, sm216  in a shed in Portsmouth, RI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain wash

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Now I sail in Chesapeake Bay and most of my anchoring is in the mud. Anchor wash on my SM 2000 is useless. I belive that real solution is installation of deck wash connection on the bow. I plan redirect chain wash to a deck wash connector. It can be used for salt water boat wash or shower aswell. You don't need high water pressure if you use hose for anchor or chain wash.

I seriously contemplate flat through deck installation of  deck wash fitting. I see on line flat deck wash connectors are made by Johnson Pump or by Jubsco.

Did anybody install deck wash connector fitting on Amel SM?

Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good"


On Nov 7, 2016 11:37 PM, "'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Patrick,

 

Thank you (and thank the others who have kindly responded to my call for help).  I think that I see how it goes.  The copper pipe is embedded in the fiberglass.  The yard is going to lay up the new fiberglass around a copper pipe as it used to be.   The higher pressure pump that you and others have suggested is a good idea and I may do someday.  For now, I (and the insurance company) will settle for putting it back like it was.  

 

Regards,

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug, sm216  in a shed in Portsmouth, RI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat tripping

James Alton
 

Alexandre,

I can understand your logic with regards to replacing the bearings each time the thruster is serviced. Thanks for the response and again for the excellently detailed service instructions.

James

On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Peter Buckley carhartt@bigpond.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi All and especially Alexandre,

Thank you for your threads and images it has been an amazing help for me during the maintenance program on my Mango.
It is almost finished and I set sail on the 14th December for warmer waters to the north of Australia.

I have an issue with my Frigoboat refrigerator that seems strange. It will work fine off the generator and shore power but trips the breaker on 12 volts.
If anyone has had this problem and has a solution it would be appreciated.

Thank you all again

Kindest Regards

Peter
Gradiva Mango #70
Raymond Island
Australia



--
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@bigpond.com <mailto:carhartt@bigpond.com>


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com> [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan


Good morning James,

With time I will try to post more illustration…

Personally I change the bearing every time I service the bow thruster.
The way I look at it, the cost of the bearing is very small compare to all the work/time involved…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 11/13/16, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com <mailto:lokiyawl2@aol.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016, 7:51 AM












Alexandre,
You did a truly excellent
job of documenting the bow thruster service. May I ask how
often you replace your bearings?
Best,
James AltonSV Sueno, Maramu #220Arbatax, ItalyOn Nov 13, 2016, at 9:03 AM,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:
Good morning Rick,

Here are the various owner
manuals.
Depending of the SM
or SM2K model you have, you will see slight difference or
evolutions on the battery chargers or air intake for the
Espar heater, etc.
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Users_Guide_CP.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Guide_utilisateur_Pack_Confort.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Manuel_du_proprietaire_Pack_Confort.pdf

Also good to know:
http://nikimat.com/amel_Super_Maramu_2000_Polar_Chart.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part1.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part2.pdf

Here are as well some other links
for maintenance and repairs:
Bow Thruster Overhaul with you
will need to do every 2 years:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

Recently I did the Windlass
regular maintenance and the complete overhaul
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html

Change of the Onan Exhaust
Elbow:
http://nikimat.com/onan_exhaust_elbow_replacement.html
Onan water pump
cleaning:
http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html

Main sail car repair:
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html

Companion way lock:
http://nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html

Removing the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html

Accessing the dishwasher:
http://nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html

Cleaning the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_cleaning.html

I also have made some
illustrations on installing a Galvanic Isolator and AC
Multimeters
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

My diesel class was from a now
retired instructor, it is about the same on all diesel
engines.
The main issue to to
make sure there is no air in the fuel line, how to bleed,
etc. I am not sure you need to learn more than that.

The way I do it: if this is
something that needs to be done every 10 years (like
rebuilding the propeller), I rather hire someone that does
it on a regular basis…
If this is something
that needs to be done on a regular basis (every 2 years)
then I will learn.

Totally agree with living onboard
for at least 1 year before to make any change, this is the
advice I was given.

Here is the link for the
survey:
http://nikimat.com/Expertise_Super_Maramu_2000_BALAO_septembre.pdf
It is in
French.

My belief, or at least hope, is
that when all the maintenance is up to date it is easier to
do it regularly.
I am probably an
exception on the group as I have to work (from the boat), so
when I arrived somewhere I have to get connected to the
internet and work.
So because of that,
instead to wait for parts to break I change or maintain them
when I have the chance, as never they break at a good
time.
I was told:
“Schedule your maintenance before your maintenance
schedule you”.

My trip has only be the Caribbean
so far, I can’t imagine for Bill and Judy the additional
shipping cost to Asia, etc…

Diesel engine are very strong and
durable, change your oil, filter (oil is VERY cheap compare
to an overhaul), etc.
Take care of your
equipment and your equipment will take care of you.

Finally, yes this forum is
amazing: Olivier, Gary, Bill, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina,
Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Sat,
11/12/16, devaxmangor@yahoo.com <mailto:devaxmangor@yahoo.com> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday,
November 12, 2016, 1:05 PM












Thank you Alexandre,
I definitely plan on
taking all the
ASA courses I can. As I think I
mentioned in another post, I
am obsessive/compulsive when it
comes to learning, so I
enjoy the process.
Can you point me to
a place to
download the service manuals? I
have read somewhere that
there are some in this group? If
not I will do a search, but
just in case you had it handy
somewhere it would be greatly
appreciated.
RE: Basic
Diesel. Definitely want to do
this. However, I've also
read that there are more in-depth
classes specific to the
engine manufacturer. I have heard
that Yanmar does these
sort of classes (haven't
really researched this yet but
came across it - haven't
heard of Volvo doing it but I
would be surprised if they
don't). I would assumed then
that these courses would be
considerably more intensive than
the Basic Diesel? I can see
taking one of these as a
top-list item in my book.
Overkill?
I've constantly heard the
"live on the
boat for one year before you decided to
make any
modifications/fixes/upgrades" and it seems
quite logical.
Something you thought you'd want may turn
out to be a
non-factor.
RE:
sharing your survey. If it has
anything that would help me
understand some of the typical
wear factors (and maybe not so
typical) on the Amel for
future reference when I am at
that stage, I would greatly
appreciate it.
Thank
you for the 20% figure. I had
estimated 10% per year, but I
can see how the first couple of
years there maybe additional
modifications/upgrades to get it
to what would be right for
us (I don't use the word
perfect because I know that is
a trap to get stuck never
finishing - been there done
that).
Glad to know
that the 15-20 hours is accurate
on weekly maintenance.
Heard that number about other
boats and knowing from an
experienced Amel owner gives that
figure more
weight.
RE: parts.
Thankfully, reading through SV
BeBe's blog I can clearly
see the costs and time associated
with trying to obtain
parts at foreign ports. The plans
would be to stock up on
just about as much spare
parts/units that I can carry, and
it appears that the Amel's
have plenty of storage. Thank
you for sharing your spare parts
list.
Engine
hours is amazing. I though
that an engine would get long in
the tooth at around 3,000
hours and would need to be
changed. I really need to learn
more about diesel engines!
Thank you for
tightening up my
budgets. Starting to work on my
spreadsheets and this will
help a lot.
Can't
tell you how glad I am that I
found this forum and posters
like yourself and the rest. A
great support group is also
something that will definitely
influence my decision on
purchasing an Amel.
Good luck to your
continued
endeavors.
Cheers,
Rick Gutierrez
















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Frigoboat tripping

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi All and especially Alexandre,

Thank you for your threads and images it has been an amazing help for me during the maintenance program on my Mango.
It is almost finished and I set sail on the 14th December for warmer waters to the north of Australia.

I have an issue with my Frigoboat refrigerator that seems strange. It will work fine off the generator and shore power but trips the breaker on 12 volts.
If anyone has had this problem and has a solution it would be appreciated.

Thank you all again 

Kindest Regards

Peter
Gradiva Mango #70
Raymond Island 
Australia



-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan

 

Good morning James,

With time I will try to post more illustration…

Personally I change the bearing every time I service the bow thruster.
The way I look at it, the cost of the bearing is very small compare to all the work/time involved…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 11/13/16, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016, 7:51 AM


 









Alexandre,
   You did a truly excellent
job of documenting the bow thruster service.  May I ask how
often you replace your bearings?
Best,
James AltonSV Sueno,  Maramu #220Arbatax,  ItalyOn Nov 13, 2016, at 9:03 AM,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
Good morning Rick, 

Here are the various owner
manuals.  
Depending of the SM
or SM2K model you have, you will see slight difference or
evolutions on the battery chargers or air intake for the
Espar heater, etc. 
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Optional_equipment.pdf
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_Users_Guide_CP.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Guide_utilisateur_Pack_Confort.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Manuel_du_proprietaire_Pack_Confort.pdf

Also good to know:  
http://nikimat.com/amel_Super_Maramu_2000_Polar_Chart.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part1.pdf
http://nikimat.com/Amel_Electrical_SM2k_OM_Appendix_4_el_Drawing_Part2.pdf

Here are as well some other links
for maintenance and repairs:
Bow Thruster Overhaul with you
will need to do every 2 years:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

Recently I did the Windlass
regular maintenance and the complete overhaul
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass.html
http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html

Change of the Onan Exhaust
Elbow:
http://nikimat.com/onan_exhaust_elbow_replacement.html
Onan water pump
cleaning:
http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html

Main sail car repair: 
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html
http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html

Companion way lock: 
http://nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html

Removing the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html

Accessing the dishwasher:
http://nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html

Cleaning the oven:
http://nikimat.com/stove_oven_cleaning.html

I also have made some
illustrations on installing a Galvanic Isolator and AC
Multimeters
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

My diesel class was from a now
retired instructor, it is about the same on all diesel
engines.  
The main issue to to
make sure there is no air in the fuel line, how to bleed,
etc. I am not sure you need to learn more than that.  

The way I do it: if this is
something that needs to be done every 10 years (like
rebuilding the propeller), I rather hire someone that does
it on a regular basis…  
If this is something
that needs to be done on a regular basis (every 2 years)
then I will learn. 

Totally agree with living onboard
for at least 1 year before to make any change, this is the
advice I was given.  

Here is the link for the
survey:  
http://nikimat.com/Expertise_Super_Maramu_2000_BALAO_septembre.pdf
It is in
French.  

My belief, or at least hope, is
that when all the maintenance is up to date it is easier to
do it regularly.  
I am probably an
exception on the group as I have to work (from the boat), so
when I arrived somewhere I have to get connected to the
internet and work.  
So because of that,
instead to wait for parts to break I change or maintain them
when I have the chance, as never they break at a good
time.  
I was told:
“Schedule your maintenance before your maintenance
schedule you”.  

My trip has only be the Caribbean
so far, I can’t imagine for Bill and Judy the additional
shipping cost to Asia, etc…  

Diesel engine are very strong and
durable, change your oil, filter (oil is VERY cheap compare
to an overhaul), etc. 
Take care of your
equipment and your equipment will take care of you. 

Finally, yes this forum is
amazing: Olivier, Gary, Bill, etc. 

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina,
Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Sat,
11/12/16, devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday,
November 12, 2016, 1:05 PM


 









Thank you Alexandre,
I definitely plan on
taking all the
ASA courses I can. As I think I
mentioned in another post, I
am obsessive/compulsive when it
comes to learning, so I
enjoy the process. 
Can you point me to
a place to
download the service manuals? I
have read somewhere that
there are some in this group? If
not I will do a search, but
just in case you had it handy
somewhere it would be greatly
appreciated.
RE: Basic
Diesel. Definitely want to do
this. However, I've also
read that there are more in-depth
classes specific to the
engine manufacturer. I have heard
that Yanmar does these
sort of classes (haven't
really researched this yet but
came across it - haven't
heard of Volvo doing it but I
would be surprised if they
don't). I would assumed then
that these courses would be
considerably more intensive than
the Basic Diesel? I can see
taking one of these as a
top-list item in my book.
Overkill?
I've constantly heard the
"live on the
boat for one year before you decided to
make any
modifications/fixes/upgrades" and it seems
quite logical.
Something you thought you'd want may turn
out to be a
non-factor.
RE:
sharing your survey. If it has
anything that would help me
understand some of the typical
wear factors (and maybe not so
typical) on the Amel for
future reference when I am at
that stage, I would greatly
appreciate it. 
Thank
you for the 20% figure. I had
estimated 10% per year, but I
can see how the first couple of
years there maybe additional
modifications/upgrades to get it
to what would be right for
us (I don't use the word
perfect because I know that is
a trap to get stuck never
finishing - been there done
that). 
Glad to know
that the 15-20 hours is accurate
on weekly maintenance.
Heard that number about other
boats and knowing from an
experienced Amel owner gives that
figure more
weight.
RE: parts.
Thankfully, reading through SV
BeBe's blog I can clearly
see the costs and time associated
with trying to obtain
parts at foreign ports. The plans
would be to stock up on
just about as much spare
parts/units that I can carry, and
it appears that the Amel's
have plenty of storage. Thank
you for sharing your spare parts
list. 
Engine
hours is amazing. I though
that an engine would get long in
the tooth at around 3,000
hours and would need to be
changed. I really need to learn
more about diesel engines!
Thank you for
tightening up my
budgets. Starting to work on my
spreadsheets and this will
help a lot.
Can't
tell you how glad I am that I
found this forum and posters
like yourself and the rest. A
great support group is also
something that will definitely
influence my decision on
purchasing an Amel.
Good luck to your
continued
endeavors. 
Cheers,
Rick Gutierrez
















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