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Servicing The Outhaul Gearbox & Bearings

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Eric on Kimberlite wrote:

"It is easy to remove the vertical shaft from the outhaul.

1 Remove the screw from the arm that goes into the Anderson winch on the
boom outhaul line.

2 Remove the nut and washers from the bottom of the outhaul motor shaft.

3 The only thing that is now holding the shaft in place is the rust on the
shaft and a key, which sits into a keyway in

the gearbox.

4 Use a very long STEEL, not stainless, bolt screw it into the bottom of the
motor shaft.

5 Use a very heavy hammer and drive the shaft up and out of the gearbox.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite"

I have posted two photos to a new folder entitled "Outhaul Service" for
parts reference.

Eric and others who have done this this service, (I have not), I have a
couple of questions and would appreciate some clarifications:

a. To access the shaft do you remove the bottom panel of the gearbox?

b. In step 2 above you mention removing the screws from the bottom of
the "motor shaft". Are you referring to the panel on the bottom of the
gearbox housing that is held in place with 4 screws?

c. In step 4 above you mention the "motor shaft'. The motor shaft is
horizontal is it not? Are you describing here threading the bolt into the
vertical shaft that passes upward (vertically) to the Anderson Winch?

d. What holds the shaft into the Anderson Winch head? Is it pressed
in?

e. Is there a bearing pressed into the boom through which the vertical
shaft passes? If so how difficult is it to remove?

f. What material/metal is the gearbox made of. The paint is completly
flaking off of mine. Is it aluminum or some aluminum aloy? Any
suggestions for re-priming/painting?

Thanks for some clarification as I anticipate doing this service next time
I am on the boat.

Regards, Gary Silver
Amel SM2000 Hull # 335


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Electronics Needs

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,

The blue seas voltmeter and frequency meter is shown on kimberlites photos.

Also a photo of my muffler meltdown. I had a muffler shop make me a metal
one, but I still installed the Borel high temp exhaust alarm.

There is a high water alarm switch already mounted on the sole of my engine
room to the starboard of my a/c raw water pump. It was stock with the boat.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Electronics Needs



Frank Newton
Boat # 321

RE: Electronics suggestions:

I would recommend installing a bilge pump run-on-alarm (alarms if the bilge
pump runs
for more than a programmed time limit, I use two minutes) and exhaust
temperature
alarms. Both are available from http://www.borelmfg
<http://www.borelmfg.com/index.html> .com/index.html ( www dot
borelmfg dot com).

I don't see the run on alarm on Borel's current web site, but if you call
them I am sure they
can provide it.

The temp sensors may save you from a meltdown of the water muffler or hose/
or both if
the injector nozel becomes blocked and the run on alarm will give early
warning that the
bilge is filling with water, (sooner than after the bilge pump has been
running for an hour
trying to keep up), and finally falls behind.

Additional suggestions are: Electronic salinity sensor for the water maker
as the
Dessalator salinity sensor DOES NOT WORK. and the Blue Sea's Digital
Multimeter on the
220 volt panel so you always know your power consumption, frequency, and
voltage.

Pictures of both of the last items are in the photo section under watermaker
as I recall.

Regards, Gary


Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2000 propeller shaft seals

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

Thanks Ann and John,
this is my thinking too,
Michael #345


--- Anne & John Hollamby <annejohn@melita.net.mt>
wrote:

Hello Michael,
The seals are easily bought from a shop dealing in
bearings and seals. The bronze wearing fitting is
also easily made by any competent machinist
especialy as the measurements are not super critical
since one side is the new lip seals and the other an
O ring. Have a couple made up so you are ready for
the next time.


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Re: Electronics Needs

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 


Re: Electronics Needs

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 


Re: Electronics Needs

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Frank Newton
Boat # 321

RE: Electronics suggestions:

I would recommend installing a bilge pump run-on-alarm (alarms if the bilge pump runs
for more than a programmed time limit, I use two minutes) and exhaust temperature
alarms. Both are available from http://www.borelmfg.com/index.html ( www dot
borelmfg dot com).

I don't see the run on alarm on Borel's current web site, but if you call them I am sure they
can provide it.

The temp sensors may save you from a meltdown of the water muffler or hose/ or both if
the injector nozel becomes blocked and the run on alarm will give early warning that the
bilge is filling with water, (sooner than after the bilge pump has been running for an hour
trying to keep up), and finally falls behind.

Additional suggestions are: Electronic salinity sensor for the water maker as the
Dessalator salinity sensor DOES NOT WORK. and the Blue Sea's Digital Multimeter on the
220 volt panel so you always know your power consumption, frequency, and voltage.

Pictures of both of the last items are in the photo section under watermaker as I recall.

Regards, Gary


Re: Electronics Needs

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

F/wd Frank Newton
Boat # 321
inquired regarding recommendations for:

" .... echopilot - through hull sonar...."

Frank: I had Amel install a Twinscope system on my SM 2000 Hull # 335 in 2001. It is
the monochrome system and even though I installed the TWINScope Display head, Amel
declined to install the larger transducer that it required. They indicated that they hadn't
done the Twinscope previously and were concerned that turbulance from the larger
transducer might interfere with the B & G sonic speed transducer system. The Twinscope
can utilize a sincel larger transducer or two smaller transducers. So Amel installed only the
vertical forward scanning transducer. I subsequently installed the second transducer (the
horizontal scanning transducer), forward of the one amel installed. It had to be further
forward on the bow to be out of the way of the 1st transducer. Joel correctly pointed out
that the risk of doing this, besides the increased drag, is the doubling of the potential risk
of tearing a hole in the boat if you stike somethin in the water.

I have found the horizontal scanning mode rather difficult to interpret. On the other hand
the vertical forward scanning mode has saved me from grounding several times. Would I
do it again?, I honestly don't know. I believe Twinscope has a color unit available now and
if I was sailing where there were more coral heads then I think I would opt for the
Twinscope, but so far I haven't found much use for the horizontal scanning mode in the
Caribbean, Western Europe, or the East coast of the US.

Hope this helps. Gary Silver


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Call doyle in Ft. Lauderdale. Please see my e- mailk to you. There are problems doing it, but sm349 Sundance has them, Do not get the short horizontal to vertical. They do not work and the strings controlling the are a mess. You have to use long thin rods and highly reinforced ends. The first try on Sundance ripped out at the leach on Trip in late Jan., 2005 from Ft. L. to Wilm, NC. Paul Lockwood at Omar sails in Beaufort NC fixed them correctly. They have to be put on a specifis side of the sail. Murray Seidel 910-470-1225

----- Original Message -----
From: eric
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen


Graham,

Is there enough room in the mast to accommodate the additional diameter of
the battens?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen

I am about to replace the main and mizzen sail on my SM 140. I would
like to have the new sails made with vertical battens (either full
length or short ones like the Amel 54). Has anyone out there fitted
sails like this to a SM and if so is there any problems with the sails
catching during furling and unfurling or merely fitting into the masts
when furled? Has any one any recommendation of sail makers that have
fitted these sails to a SM? I am hoping that by getting some roach
into the main and mizzen this will help improve light air performance.

Graham


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Grahm- SM349 has 6-8 foot vertical battens done by Doyle in Ft. Lauderdale. The first attemt was by doyle in Barbados with "swing battens". They do not work and the lines used for control i.e.-deploying are a mess.I am sailing out of Wilmington NC and I think they make only a miniscule difference, but some compared to the standard Amel sail that I also have. The battens can only be placed on one specific side of the sail due to the small slot. When I picked the sail up in Ft. Laud. and sailed to Wilmington end of Nov.2005, the top ends of the battens chewed right through the leech. Had to remove sail and have Paul Lockwood of Omar Sails in Beafort, N.C. repair them. Works ok now. Below 5-6 knots, tough to get the SM moving decently. I did better with my J-24 in that wind. Turn on the Yanmar to 1200 rpm, can"t even hear or feel it and create a bit more wind and it svery nice. Murray Seidel 910-470-1225

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Boyd
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen


I am about to replace the main and mizzen sail on my SM 140. I would
like to have the new sails made with vertical battens (either full
length or short ones like the Amel 54). Has anyone out there fitted
sails like this to a SM and if so is there any problems with the sails
catching during furling and unfurling or merely fitting into the masts
when furled? Has any one any recommendation of sail makers that have
fitted these sails to a SM? I am hoping that by getting some roach
into the main and mizzen this will help improve light air performance.

Graham


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A Favor

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Dear Richard- I live in Wilmington , N>C> with 3 airlines servicing us.Fly direct to Charlotte then on to Wilm. I would be happy to have you sail SM349 all weekend. Just went to Bermuda and back. Call me if interested. Murray Seidel. 910-470-1225 or 910-395-6755. Office # 763-2361.----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A Favor


If you want to come to Maine we'd be happy to show you
around.
Richard
rpille at earthlink.net
--- richard_navarro26 <richard_navarro26@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> I am considering purchasing a Super Maramu, but I
> haven't actually
> been on one yet. Is there a kind owner in Southern
> California who
> would be willing to allow me look at his boat so I
> can get an idea of
> what I am getting myself into? Thank you.
>
>

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Re: A Favor

Stephan Regulinski
 

Richard,

If you make it up to the Seattle/Vancouver area, we would be happy to
show you ours . . . SMM303, "Delos".

Stephan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "richard_navarro26"
<richard_navarro26@...> wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Super Maramu, but I haven't actually
been on one yet. Is there a kind owner in Southern California who
would be willing to allow me look at his boat so I can get an idea
of
what I am getting myself into? Thank you.


Re: Electronics Needs

Stephan Regulinski
 

Frank,

(1) SSB: We have an Icom 710 and have been very happy with it. We
had Amel install it (below the radar display in the spot that is
otherwise a drawer)with the whip antenna on the aft and the tuner in
the lazarette. Amel does a lot of these installations and they do a
good job.

(2) Sat Phone: we had a mini M and were not happy with the cost.
It was too easy to run up bills on the order of $1000/month. We
removed it and replaced it with a Pactor modem attached to the Icom
so we could do email over shortwave. By the way, I do not recommend
the stainless steel mounting system that Amel sells for the mini M.
Ours cracked. We replaced it with an arch on which we mounted the
mini M antenna (until we removed the system) and the wind
generator.

(3) Source: We bought our Icom, the Mini M and the Pactor modem all
from HF Onboard. Don, who runs the place is outstanding. When I
last spoke to him (around the time we bought the Pactor modem), he
reported that I was the last person to buy a mini M from him!
Apparently, pricing on the Iridium airtime and the Iridium phones is
substantially better than that on the mini M.

(4) Second autopilot drive unit. We bought the second drive unit
(chain) from Amel. It turned out to be worth the investment as we
had a failure on the aft drive unit while underway (Kingdom of Tonga
to New Zealand). At this point, we had about 35,000 miles on the
boat. Drive units will wear, and need service like everything else
(our linear drive was serviced in New Zealand and continues to
function fine).


Stephan
Delos (SMM 303)


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Global Scanner
<globalscanner44@...> wrote:

With some major blue water cruising planned for later this year
I am currently looking to fit the following in my SM2000.

I have tried Amel's electronics installers but had no response.
I am looking for recommendations / advice from members on the
following as electronics is not my bag.

SSB Radio

a) the best radio to go for ( UK licence )

b) type of aerial to use and where to locate it

Satellite Phone

What make/ type to go for in terms of features, charge rates -
is it the 'Mini M' ?

F/wd facing echopilot - through hull sonar

In members experience how good/effective are these ? Best to go
for ?

2nd Raymarine ST7000 Autopilot

to include, fluxgate, computer, rotary chain drive, control
panel, and rudder angle with switch to ensure both systems cannot be
on at same time.

In members experience do I need to go for this second autohelm;
how reliable is the principle ST7000?

My need for internet and e-mail at reasonable speed is also
critical in the above considerations

Any help on some or all of the above will be much appreciated.

Frank Newton
Boat # 321




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen

amelforme
 

Dear Members,

Peter Grimm Jr. of Sail Depot/Super Sail Makers, here in Fort Lauderdale
has made several sets of partial vertical batten sails for the 53, as on the 54,
for several of my clients. All are pleased with the performance increase.
He will give you my trade discount which makes these sails quite
affordable even when shipping is involved. Peter is our "anointed" AMEL
sail maker and does a good job in making our AMEL owners happy. You
can trust him.

Contact Peter on email at: peter@sail-depot.com
or by phone at (954) 462-3695.

All the best,

Joel F. Potter AMEL 54, Hull # 14, HOLLIS


Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2000 propeller shaft seals

Anne & John Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Michael,
The seals are easily bought from a shop dealing in bearings and seals. The bronze wearing fitting is also easily made by any competent machinist especialy as the measurements are not super critical since one side is the new lip seals and the other an O ring. Have a couple made up so you are ready for the next time.

Regards, John SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: michael grunstein
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:42 AM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2000 propeller shaft seals


I would like to have the specs for the prop shaft
seals (3 seals). To order from Amel means costly
shipping.
Thanks for your help, Michael
SM2000 #345

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Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen

Anne & John Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Graham,
I have not yet had to replace my sails but if I did I would have vertical battens to increase the size of the main and mizzen. I did this on my previous yacht and increased the size of the main by 7% and the appearance by 100% with the positive roach instead of a negative one.
This gives no furling problems although most people assume that it will. If the foot of the main is say four meters then a batten half way up will be in a roll of only two meters so unless the battens are tree trunks no probs.
Go for it!

Best wishes from Istanbul, John SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Boyd
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Vertical Battens on SM main and mizzen


I am about to replace the main and mizzen sail on my SM 140. I would
like to have the new sails made with vertical battens (either full
length or short ones like the Amel 54). Has anyone out there fitted
sails like this to a SM and if so is there any problems with the sails
catching during furling and unfurling or merely fitting into the masts
when furled? Has any one any recommendation of sail makers that have
fitted these sails to a SM? I am hoping that by getting some roach
into the main and mizzen this will help improve light air performance.

Graham


Jib Furler

Eric Freedman
 

HI,

has anyone ever taken the jib furler apart? Mine has started to make a noise
in one direction.

I would appreciate any input. Does anyone have a jib furler that has become
noisier?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM2000 propeller shaft seals

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

Thanks Eric and Roy, I gor the bronze sleeve for this
time, hope to find the seals easily,
Michael #345




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM2000 propeller shaft seals

Eric Freedman
 

did you try Maryland metrics?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbenven44
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM2000 propeller shaft seals



Michael,
I have a SM, vintage 1997 (hull # 195). But I believe the seals
did not change for the SM2000. On my boat, the seals are CORTECO I1
45-65-8 (45mm inner diameter, 65mm outer diameter, 8mm thickness).
Other markings on the seals are: BAU4 (I think that means they are
made of nitrile), and CFW (the manufacturer, Freudenberg-cFw).

I have been trying to locate a US source of these seals for some
time, with little success. I e-mailed the German manufacturer, their
US representative, and the Italian distributor, with no answer. I
have contacted local and national distributors of metric seals, also
with no luck. So, if you have any luck, please post your source.

Eric, I agree the whole assembly needs to be replaced at one
time. However, I mangled one of the seals a bit upon insertion last
time, so I would like a couple of spares.

If someone has info on the SM2000 shaft seals (whether they are
the same or different from those described above), please post it.

Thanks, Roy Benveniste, SM "Excalibur"

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, michael grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:


I would like to have the specs for the prop shaft
seals (3 seals). To order from Amel means costly
shipping.
Thanks for your help, Michael
SM2000 #345


Re: SM2000 propeller shaft seals

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Michael,
I have a SM, vintage 1997 (hull # 195). But I believe the seals
did not change for the SM2000. On my boat, the seals are CORTECO I1
45-65-8 (45mm inner diameter, 65mm outer diameter, 8mm thickness).
Other markings on the seals are: BAU4 (I think that means they are
made of nitrile), and CFW (the manufacturer, Freudenberg-cFw).

I have been trying to locate a US source of these seals for some
time, with little success. I e-mailed the German manufacturer, their
US representative, and the Italian distributor, with no answer. I
have contacted local and national distributors of metric seals, also
with no luck. So, if you have any luck, please post your source.

Eric, I agree the whole assembly needs to be replaced at one
time. However, I mangled one of the seals a bit upon insertion last
time, so I would like a couple of spares.

If someone has info on the SM2000 shaft seals (whether they are
the same or different from those described above), please post it.

Thanks, Roy Benveniste, SM "Excalibur"


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

I would like to have the specs for the prop shaft
seals (3 seals). To order from Amel means costly
shipping.
Thanks for your help, Michael
SM2000 #345