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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raw water manifold replacement

greatketch@...
 

Don't forget about the zincs in the engine and generator... they are there for the same reason:  the zinc on the rudder is NOT going to protect anything inside the engine room.  

The bonding serves two purposes: to drain off stray currents and protect underwater metals from galvanic corrosion with the zinc.  For parts up inside the engine room connected to the ocean by a hose the galvanic protection available from an external zinc is so close to zero it makes no nevermind, but the stray current protection is still really important. That's why the engine and generator zincs are so important to keep on top of seperate from the rudder zinc.

Worst case:  the zinc installed in the manifold dissolves faster than the rudder zinc.  But it is a piece of cake to replace.  And guess what?  If it dissolves quickly, that means it is needed!

It sure sounds to me like some of the original manifolds installed had some brazing issues that might have been helped by an installed zinc if they are failing in as little as 8 years.

Bill Kinney
SM#160  Harmonie
Rose Island, Bahamas



---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote :

If you place a zinc on the manifold and also leave the manifold connected to the bonding system, that zinc will be the closest zinc to all items in the bonding system and will deteriorate before the rudder zincs.

Yes, it can't hurt, but I would not advise it if the manifold is connected to the bonding system.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail




Re: Watermaker - Santorin - Sea Chest

Herbert Lackner
 

Eric,

 

I installed an Echotec Watermaker on our Santorin and used the Sea Water inlet of the aft toilet, just installed a T at the seacock.  I also installed a magnetic booster pump next to the seacock and led the hose into the engine room where I installed the watermaker using the hole that is also used for the radar cable,   very simple and effective.

 

There was no need for an additional through hull, also not for the seawater outlet, here I installed a T-piece into the hoise after the manual bilge pump for the saltwater outlet.

 

If you want I can send you pictures or can try to upload some…

 

Herbert

SN 120, KALI MERA, Dominica


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stern Bumper for SM2000

greatketch@...
 

Colin & Lauren,

I guess we have you to thank for ordering one and getting the production gears slowly moving so an official Amel bumper was ready to ship overnight to us when we wanted it in December.

I have heard of one owner who had one made out of wood, in shape and paint to match the original.  Obviously not as "bounce-back" as the hard foam, but would still protect the hull and would look good--at least until it took its first good thump.  An advantage is that it is easy to change back to Amel original foam when you can get one.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Rose Island, Bahamas



---In amelyachtowners@..., <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote :

We recently replaced our bumper with one sourced from Amel. There was a 2 year wait for this part but finally we got one. Being an Amel original part it was a easy 20 mins job to replace. Cost was around 475 euro plus freight to Brisbane.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Eric,

Thanks for your email. It is interesting.
I have my boat for one year.  The engine has more than 4,000 hours.  I don't know if bearings were replaced before. I greased prop bearings 2 times. Prop blades rotate freely. There is no play. There is no evidence of any bearing damage.  What else could go wrong? Did you feel anything wrong before you change the bears? Could you feel any difference in blade rotation after the bearings change?

Vladimir
SM#345 "LIFE IS GOOD"


On Jan 9, 2017 1:00 AM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I had the same problem with Kimberlite. Even though when I hauled her and tried to wiggle the blades of the autoprop they seemed normal. After exhausting all other possibilities , I spend a day and rebuilt the autoprop.

Voila back to 3500 rpm. I also rebuilt the prop at about 3500 hours.

The autoprop is a sensitive beast and the slightest out of balance will kill your rpm.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 12:18 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM

 

 

Hi Vlad and Dominique,

AutoProps require regular maintenance.  If you haven't done that in a couple of years, that may be your problem.  There are some other threads on this forum that discuss this vis a vis low rpm.  Just spinning the blades on the hub doesn't tell you much.  They can feel perfectly free wheeling, and still be a problem.

If you don't run your engine hard on a regular basis, you can get a serious buildup of carbon in the turbo and exhaust elbow.  That's the second place to look.

Let us know what you find.

Kent

 


From: "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM

 

 

Hi Dominique,

I also have 75 HP YANMAR engine 4JH3-TE. I also can't develop more than 2200-2500 RPM.
I am discussing this problem with Autoprop.  I suspect that perhaps prop provides to much torque load.

Autoprop ask me for transmission gear ratio. The label on my transmission is gone. I requested this information from Amel. I am waiting for a reply now.

Autoprop also ask me to conduct some tests. I can't do the tests now because my boat is on hard.
I will keep you posted.

Vladimir
SM#345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

 

On Jan 8, 2017 10:26 PM, "songhui_ma@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Happy New Year 2017

 

Yanmar 4JH3-TE - 3600 hours - 1500 hours maintenance. 

 

A New Zealand mechanic replaced the injectors with Yanmar ones I provided and sourced in the US [Niemiec] Both mechanic and my US provider confirmed that it was the correct part #. 

 

However and since I cannot go over 2300 RPM.

The smoke is pretty transparent neither black or white. 

 

I browsed the internet, got a lot of ideas, but nothing which jumped out.

I suspect it is related to the Turbo - over 2300 RPM - that I have not used much and realized I should have.   

 

Suggestions greatly appreciated

 

Thanks

Dominique 

S/V Viva 

SM #374 

Opua, NZ 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SAMS certification?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

From what I have heard from numerous owners, I think Dave is the best Amel surveyor this side of the Atlantic.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 9, 2017 10:20 AM, "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you so much paul. It seems like he's the man for the job!


On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:46 AM, pstas2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Porter,

If Oliver is unavailable, I would highly recommend David Huffman from the Tampa area.  He surveyed my boat when it was in Trinidad last November.

I was exceptionally satisfied with David. He was recommended by Mark and Cindy on Creampuff - Joel Potter had recommended him to them. He has done more than 200 Amels and knows the boats extraordinarily well.  I was thoroughly satisfied with his attention to detail.

David is very knowledgeable and very professional. He spent 16 hours of his time over 3 days going over everything.

Contact info: 

Dave Huffman.
Phone - 954-205-3153.
Email - dwhuffman@...

Feel free to use my name.


Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Rodney Bay Marina - Saint Lucia



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SAMS certification?

Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

Thank you so much paul. It seems like he's the man for the job!


On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:46 AM, pstas2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Porter,

If Oliver is unavailable, I would highly recommend David Huffman from the Tampa area.  He surveyed my boat when it was in Trinidad last November.

I was exceptionally satisfied with David. He was recommended by Mark and Cindy on Creampuff - Joel Potter had recommended him to them. He has done more than 200 Amels and knows the boats extraordinarily well.  I was thoroughly satisfied with his attention to detail.

David is very knowledgeable and very professional. He spent 16 hours of his time over 3 days going over everything.

Contact info: 

Dave Huffman.
Phone - 954-205-3153.
Email - dwhuffman@...

Feel free to use my name.


Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Rodney Bay Marina - Saint Lucia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Thanks Bill


Will provide an update after changing out the capacitors tomorrow.

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:30 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

Look at these photos, especially the capacitor on yhe pump.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?p=climma#zax/albums_324976668

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 9, 2017 8:20 AM, "SV Island Pearl II colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Ben and Kent

Thanks, I have checked and replaced that small fuse in the box behind the generator before. That did not solve my problem at the time.

By the way that is a pretty dangerous box. The small little fuse looked so small that I was foolish disarmed enough to try to replace it whilst forgetting to turn off the shore power! Big mistake obviously as I got a shock big enough to throw me back off the generator I was leaning over and fortunately the earth safety switch worked. Stupid mistake and I should know better. Please anyone reading this, do not be fooled by the small size of that little fuse. The entire box is 230v not 24v!

Once I have replaced the capacitors tomorrow, and if it does not start, I will go straight back to that fuse box behind the generator......with much more caution this time!

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Hi Colin
All three of my AC's shut down when salt water pump quit working.  It was a blown 5 Amp fuse in the AC control box behind the generator.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM347
6S


On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:38 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

.

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: SAMS certification?

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Porter,

If Oliver is unavailable, I would highly recommend David Huffman from the Tampa area.  He surveyed my boat when it was in Trinidad last November.

I was exceptionally satisfied with David. He was recommended by Mark and Cindy on Creampuff - Joel Potter had recommended him to them. He has done more than 200 Amels and knows the boats extraordinarily well.  I was thoroughly satisfied with his attention to detail.

David is very knowledgeable and very professional. He spent 16 hours of his time over 3 days going over everything.

Contact info: 

Dave Huffman.
Phone - 954-205-3153.
Email - dwhuffman@...

Feel free to use my name.


Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Rodney Bay Marina - Saint Lucia


Re: Stern Bumper for SM2000

ericmeury@...
 

there is an owner of an amel santorin on the fb sitie named olaf that made small platform  Looks really well made.  We intend to do something similar and in the event that we need something there in the dock we will just use a fender


Re: SAMS certification?

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Porter,

If Oliver is unavailable, I would highly recommend David Huffman from the Tampa area.  He surveyed my boat when it was in Trinidad last November.

I was exceptionally satisfied with David. He was recommended by Mark and Cindy on Creampuff - Joel Potter had recommended him to them. He has done more than 200 Amels and knows the boats extraordinarily well.  I was thoroughly satisfied with his attention to detail.

David is very knowledgeable and very professional. He spent 16 hours of his time over 3 days going over everything.

Contact info: 

Dave Huffman.
Phone - 954-205-3153.
Email - dwhuffman@...

Feel free to use my name.


Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Rodney Bay Marina - Saint Lucia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

Look at these photos, especially the capacitor on yhe pump.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?p=climma#zax/albums_324976668

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 9, 2017 8:20 AM, "SV Island Pearl II colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben and Kent

Thanks, I have checked and replaced that small fuse in the box behind the generator before. That did not solve my problem at the time.

By the way that is a pretty dangerous box. The small little fuse looked so small that I was foolish disarmed enough to try to replace it whilst forgetting to turn off the shore power! Big mistake obviously as I got a shock big enough to throw me back off the generator I was leaning over and fortunately the earth safety switch worked. Stupid mistake and I should know better. Please anyone reading this, do not be fooled by the small size of that little fuse. The entire box is 230v not 24v!

Once I have replaced the capacitors tomorrow, and if it does not start, I will go straight back to that fuse box behind the generator......with much more caution this time!

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Colin
All three of my AC's shut down when salt water pump quit working.  It was a blown 5 Amp fuse in the AC control box behind the generator.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM347
6S


On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:38 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

.

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Bill

Despite that capacitor on the pump looking to be in good condition, I replaced it anyway but that unfortunately did not get the pump started.

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

You have not stated the condition of the start/run capacitor on the water pump itself. That would be my first thing to check.

Let me know.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 9, 2017 8:20 AM, "SV Island Pearl II colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Ben and Kent

Thanks, I have checked and replaced that small fuse in the box behind the generator before. That did not solve my problem at the time.

By the way that is a pretty dangerous box. The small little fuse looked so small that I was foolish disarmed enough to try to replace it whilst forgetting to turn off the shore power! Big mistake obviously as I got a shock big enough to throw me back off the generator I was leaning over and fortunately the earth safety switch worked. Stupid mistake and I should know better. Please anyone reading this, do not be fooled by the small size of that little fuse. The entire box is 230v not 24v!

Once I have replaced the capacitors tomorrow, and if it does not start, I will go straight back to that fuse box behind the generator......with much more caution this time!

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Hi Colin
All three of my AC's shut down when salt water pump quit working.  It was a blown 5 Amp fuse in the AC control box behind the generator.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM347
6S


On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:38 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

.

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

You have not stated the condition of the start/run capacitor on the water pump itself. That would be my first thing to check.

Let me know.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 9, 2017 8:20 AM, "SV Island Pearl II colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben and Kent

Thanks, I have checked and replaced that small fuse in the box behind the generator before. That did not solve my problem at the time.

By the way that is a pretty dangerous box. The small little fuse looked so small that I was foolish disarmed enough to try to replace it whilst forgetting to turn off the shore power! Big mistake obviously as I got a shock big enough to throw me back off the generator I was leaning over and fortunately the earth safety switch worked. Stupid mistake and I should know better. Please anyone reading this, do not be fooled by the small size of that little fuse. The entire box is 230v not 24v!

Once I have replaced the capacitors tomorrow, and if it does not start, I will go straight back to that fuse box behind the generator......with much more caution this time!

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Colin
All three of my AC's shut down when salt water pump quit working.  It was a blown 5 Amp fuse in the AC control box behind the generator.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM347
6S


On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:38 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

.

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Ben and Kent

Thanks, I have checked and replaced that small fuse in the box behind the generator before. That did not solve my problem at the time.

By the way that is a pretty dangerous box. The small little fuse looked so small that I was foolish disarmed enough to try to replace it whilst forgetting to turn off the shore power! Big mistake obviously as I got a shock big enough to throw me back off the generator I was leaning over and fortunately the earth safety switch worked. Stupid mistake and I should know better. Please anyone reading this, do not be fooled by the small size of that little fuse. The entire box is 230v not 24v!

Once I have replaced the capacitors tomorrow, and if it does not start, I will go straight back to that fuse box behind the generator......with much more caution this time!

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Ben Driver joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Colin
All three of my AC's shut down when salt water pump quit working.  It was a blown 5 Amp fuse in the AC control box behind the generator.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM347
6S


On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:38 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

.

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Dom,

Have you cleaned the AutoProp. If not, clean it and report back.

This thread may be confusing to some because it has Yanmar 100hp Turbo posts along with Yanmar 75 non-turbo. The top RPM characteristics are different, and you do not have a turbo that requires service if you have the 75.

When we were in New Zealand, we ordered a bearing kit for our AutoProp. Bruntons, manufacturer of AutoProp, recommends a bearing kit every 800 engine hours. I have known some SMs to go double that number.

While you are diving on the AutoProp write down the numbers. You will need all of them to order. Bruntons changed the design of their model numbers several times without changing model numbers, so you need the serial number. There was an engineering shop in Gulf Harbour that services AutoProp, but I cannot remember the name. The General Manager at Bruntons is David Sheppard David"at"bruntons-propellers.com.

I hope this helps you, but I think there is a 98% chance that there is nothing wrong with your Yanmar. It was probably a good idea to service the injectors and adjust valve clearance...he did adjust valve clearances, didn't he? That will not change RPM, but is probably needed to reduce smoking.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 9, 2017 4:57 AM, "SV Island Pearl II colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Dominique

We have the same Yanmar 75HP on hull #332. It has a Hurth ZF25 (HSW250H) gearbox with a 2.8: 1 ratio. Since you are hull # 374 it may or may not be a different box?

We have 1600 hrs on our motor and have not needed to recondition the Autoprop yet but whenever our prop is fouled, even slightly, the max engine revs decreases, and then on diving on the prop to clean it we go straight back up to 3500 - 3600 revs.

Since you are on the hard we assume though that your prop is clean so that is not your problem.

Colin Streeter, Island Pearl II
Amel 53 #332, Brisbane



On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:26 PM, songhui_ma@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Happy New Year 2017


Yanmar 4JH3-TE - 3600 hours - 1500 hours maintenance. 


A New Zealand mechanic replaced the injectors with Yanmar ones I provided and sourced in the US [Niemiec] Both mechanic and my US provider confirmed that it was the correct part #. 


However and since I cannot go over 2300 RPM.

The smoke is pretty transparent neither black or white. 


I browsed the internet, got a lot of ideas, but nothing which jumped out.

I suspect it is related to the Turbo - over 2300 RPM - that I have not used much and realized I should have.   


Suggestions greatly appreciated


Thanks

Dominique 

S/V Viva 

SM #374 

Opua, NZ 






--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Hi Colin
All three of my AC's shut down when salt water pump quit working.  It was a blown 5 Amp fuse in the AC control box behind the generator.

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM347
6S


On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:38 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

.

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent-vetus coupling

Stephen Davis
 

You can pull up a detailed drawing of the KO5 (type 6) coupling on the web. It does have a keyway. However, on the Vetus instructions, they say you must drill through the shaft, and use a provided roll pin. We chose not to compromise the shaft by drilling, and just used the keyway which seemed identical to the old broken coupling. 

Steve
Aloha SM72

On Jan 9, 2017, at 02:08, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Damn, Eric, I don't know.  I was sitting in the cockpit while the mechanic was doing the hands on work.
Kent


From: "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 1:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent-vetus coupling

 
Did the coupling have a keyway in it?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 12:34 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent-vetus coupling
 
 
It came from Amel with the new C drive, Eric.  I didn't compare it closely with the old one, but they seemed to be the same.
Kent
 

From: "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 11:55 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent-vetus coupling
 
 
When you installed your yanmar did you use a stock Vetus coupling or did you purchase it from Amel?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 11:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Replacing Vetus Coupling Bolts
 
 
Hi Eric,
The coupling needs to fit a 35mm shaft.  The 60mm is what the coupling housing would go over and is the "hub" of the coupling.  Thought that bit of info might be helpful.  
 
Not sure if it pertains to your project but an earlier posting made me think that the stock Vetus couplings would not work for the later SMs with Yanmars.  It stated--from posting number 22356-- "Pat We have been down this road using the Standard Vetus coupling you describe. It does not fit. We ordered ours from Amel as they have a special build. The one in the catalog is approx. 5MM to long and it can not be shortened to make it fit. Paul & Susan LaFrance SV NOMAD SM#362". 
 
I'll include this for thread continuity on the replacement of the coupling bollts--Regarding my project to replace the bushings using bolts threaded at both ends, an email to Danny (with a Volvo engine) confirmed that he was able to replace the bolts by sliding the engine back, splitting the coupling, replacing the rubber bushings and then sliding the bolts through before reassembling the 2 coupling housings.  Interesting--he did this in Tonga and could not obtain the bushings so he carved come out of truck suspension bushings and they worked fine for several years, showing no wear when he replaced them with the Vetus bushings.
 
A question I still have is how the Vetus hub is removed from the shaft coming from the C drive (especially for the Yanmar era SMs).  Is it removed by drilling out a pin in the hub? Any gurus out there with an answer?
 
I plan to post some pic of our bushing replacement project one I have the bushings and can complete the project.
 
Bob, KAIMI
SM 429
 
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

eric freedman
 

HI Colin,

The water pump should go on immediately when the AC unit is turned on.

If it does not , that is why the AC units shut down.

If you have replace the pump capacitor then I believe the problem is in the relay box.

There is a box port side behind the generator that has relays . when one AC unit is turned on the pump starts.

Each AC unit has a relay in the box.

I believe there is a fuse in that box. I believe the box is the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 3:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi Eric

 

Got the capacitors today but no time yet to install and test. (For the record cost here in Australia for the 10UF was $20.00 and I found the best place to get them was from an Electric Motor rewinding company. The Frigo-boat distributor for QLD couldn't source these for us.)

 

When we tried to run the aircon before replacing the capacitors the water pump would not switch on although the pump turns freely with a crew driver and we replaced the pump capacitor too.

 

The new capacitors will be fitted tomorrow so will see if that solves the problem.

 

Colin Streeter, 

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Colin,

Was the AC water pump working when you turned on a unit?

If that doesn’t start the units will shut down in about 15 seconds..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel SM Capacitors

 

 

Hi all

 

Today I opened up all the 3 aircon units on Island Pearl II to take a closer look at the capacitators as after always working perfectly in the past, all three units developed the same problem at about the same time, ie. they would start then simply cut out after about 15 - 20 seconds after a click sound.

 

Interestingly after reading Gary's and Bill's posts on these some time back, and not getting the time to look at it properly till today, I opened up the units and in all three it was the 10UF capacitotors (located under the metal cover & cable tied to the larger 40UF units) that were blown.

 

As a matter of course I will purchase six of these right away so we have a spare on board for each aircon ahead of cruising north across the equator later this year. I will replace all three and assume that this will be the problem hopefully easily solved, however it troubles me that the exact same 10UF units blew on all three aircons...... hence my question to the group...

 

Why do you think all three 10UF capacitators would fail at the same time? Also, those who already replaced these (and I think the 10UF ones were also problematic on other boats in the forum) did the new ones run well for some time after, or should I expect that they will blow again soon? Lastly should one consider replacing the 10UF with perhaps a 14UF??? or is this unlikely to solve the issue and possibly introduce even more issues...?

 

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

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On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:12 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone:

 

On my last trip I decided to check every capacitor on Liahona.  There are 21 of them that I know of:  5 each for each of the Amel original Climma AC units, 2 each for the 4th Climma AC I installed in the galley (by the way by far and away the best upgrade made to the boat), 2 on the Dessalitor HP pump, 1 each on the Dessalator BP (low pressure pump) and the Calpeda AC pump.  There are probably more that I have missed. 

 

I had to replace 7 of them due to either outright failure (2) or out of specification readings.  I'll post a file with a summary latter today of the specifications for all of these (assembled from actual replacements and or forum posts and in once case from Dessalator (as what they reported was different than what was actually on the original pump motor.

 

If anybody has knowledge of additional capacitors that I have missed please advise. 

 

Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM 2000 #335

Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico



 

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Re: Watermaker - Santorin - Sea Chest

Ian Park
 

Eric
Our Santorin already had a watermaker added (with an engine driven HP pump). An additional hole and seacock had been added plus a magnetic drive electric boost pump. I can't suggest how else you can pick up sea water. The toilet sea water is inside the watertight cabins, so that's a negative, and I wouldn't want to feed off the engine sea water pick up.
Ours is situated in line with the shaft generator pulley on the centreline of the boat tucked in close to the engine mounting frame ahead of the Vetus exhaust box.
I agree about not putting another hole in the boat, but it has not been an issue. It's 3 thru hull seacocks compared to 8 in my previous 37' production yacht! And I guess the SM has that 3rd hole for the sea chest intake, or does that provide the engine raw water intake as well?

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Dominique

We have the same Yanmar 75HP on hull #332. It has a Hurth ZF25 (HSW250H) gearbox with a 2.8: 1 ratio. Since you are hull # 374 it may or may not be a different box?

We have 1600 hrs on our motor and have not needed to recondition the Autoprop yet but whenever our prop is fouled, even slightly, the max engine revs decreases, and then on diving on the prop to clean it we go straight back up to 3500 - 3600 revs.

Since you are on the hard we assume though that your prop is clean so that is not your problem.

Colin Streeter, Island Pearl II
Amel 53 #332, Brisbane



On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:26 PM, songhui_ma@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Happy New Year 2017


Yanmar 4JH3-TE - 3600 hours - 1500 hours maintenance. 


A New Zealand mechanic replaced the injectors with Yanmar ones I provided and sourced in the US [Niemiec] Both mechanic and my US provider confirmed that it was the correct part #. 


However and since I cannot go over 2300 RPM.

The smoke is pretty transparent neither black or white. 


I browsed the internet, got a lot of ideas, but nothing which jumped out.

I suspect it is related to the Turbo - over 2300 RPM - that I have not used much and realized I should have.   


Suggestions greatly appreciated


Thanks

Dominique 

S/V Viva 

SM #374 

Opua, NZ 






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