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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Jeff and Duane,

  My wife and I are nearby in Boynton Beach and we would love to get together.

  Mark and Laura Pitt

  Sabbatical III, SM #419, boat in Carloforte, Italy

On 1/10/2017 8:36 PM, jmkraus jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Thursday is fine. Give me a call on my cell 5169830094 and we'll coordinate plans



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
Date: 1/10/17 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

 

Hi Jeff,


We're anchored between the Flagler and Royal Park Bridges, we'd love to get together with you!  How about Thursday?

You can reach us at 314-280-3757

Duane & Peg Siegfried
Wanderer, SM  #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Thursday is fine. Give me a call on my cell 5169830094 and we'll coordinate plans



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 1/10/17 6:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

 

Hi Jeff,


We're anchored between the Flagler and Royal Park Bridges, we'd love to get together with you!  How about Thursday?

You can reach us at 314-280-3757

Duane & Peg Siegfried
Wanderer, SM  #477


Re: Bow thruster saga continues!

Duane Siegfri
 

Patrick,.something shoved the motor out of line, or perhaps you were rolling side to side, or maybe something jammed in the bow thruster "hull section".  At any case, all you need to do is prop up the motor so it doesn't fall, then identify the cable lifting the motor and remove the two aircraft cable clamps to free the motor.  Lower it down to un-jamb it and then reconnect the cable clamps in their original position.  Marking the cable is a good idea prior to removing the clamps so you can put them back in their original position.  

Then locate the "black box" adjacent to the motor, stbd side, more than midway up the trunk, remove the cover and check the fuse.  It's likely blown.  It's a 10 amp (if I recall correctly) auto type fuse and there may be one taped to the box.  Replace it and you should now be good to go.  

You might want to dive on the hull to ensure nothing is jambed there.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Bow thruster saga continues!

pjn.mccallin@...
 

I simply do not know to tell you this but after using the thruster in anger today, I thought it had risen into it's up position, however when I came to use it again I found that the cable at the top had pulled the cigar shaped bit off center so that the cigar was wedged tight under the bell shaped receiver, and I mean tight.

It will not go down and obviously cannot go up.

Does anyone have any ideas what went wrong and how to free the motor off/down. I assume that as the trip in the 24v panel had popped off the motor was trying to raise itself till it jammed god knows if I have damaged the jack motor. . Greatful for any advice, Patrick CARAMELLE 385.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

BeBe, SM2k, #387 came with 18mm, but the specs say 16mm.

A few years ago I bought 3/4" which is about 20mm. This was New England Rope Sta-Set. It is soft and pliable and very strong. The larger size ia easier to use and fits the winches. You should buy 150 feet total...my opinion.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 10, 2017 6:03 PM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Jeff,
Darn, I was just visiting friends in Boynton Beach.  I'm not on the boat right now, and don't know the answer to your questions off the top of my head.  I bought my furling and outhaul motors and gearboxes from Amel.

Let me suggest that you don't get new sheets that are significantly larger that the originals.  They won't fit well in the self tailing winches.

Hope I meet you somewhere and have a beer/wine/rum or two!

Kent
SM243
Kristy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi Mike,

That drawing is interesting.  It appears not to distinguish between the hull below the rubrail, and the rubrail.  But the rubrail isn't fiberglass, at least I think it's not based on the gouges I see.  It does look like thermoplastic though.  The sketch does not infer a joint at the bottom of the rubrail, and my finger doesn't find a joint there either.  I wonder if they put the rubrail in the mold and fiberglassed to it?  Or is it just part of the hull???

Duane
Wanderer, SM #477  The penultimate SM.


Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi Jeff,

We're anchored between the Flagler and Royal Park Bridges, we'd love to get together with you!  How about Thursday?

You can reach us at 314-280-3757

Duane & Peg Siegfried
Wanderer, SM  #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

karkauai
 

Hi Jeff,
Darn, I was just visiting friends in Boynton Beach.  I'm not on the boat right now, and don't know the answer to your questions off the top of my head.  I bought my furling and outhaul motors and gearboxes from Amel.

Let me suggest that you don't get new sheets that are significantly larger that the originals.  They won't fit well in the self tailing winches.

Hope I meet you somewhere and have a beer/wine/rum or two!

Kent
SM243
Kristy



mainsail furler/ headsail sheets

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

I need to replace the mainsail furling motor, and was wondering if anyone knew the best place to find it in the states (I'm currently in West Palm Beach FL, heading back to LINY Sunday), or do I have to get it from Amel?

Also, I am looking to replace the headsail sheets. I'm assuming the original sheets  are aboard, and that they are some metric rated lines (size/breaking strength). What is the consensus regarding replacement?  If anything, I would oversize it. Parting the starboard sheet in 50+ is something I'd prefer to do only once.

If there are any Amelians in the vicinity of West Palm, I'd love to invite you down to Cannonsport Marina to have an evening cocktail and a few laughs.

Thanks!

Jeff s/v Spirit Amel 54


Re: Stern Bumper for SM2000

alainfeuillet@...
 

Hi Dominique,
on our SM, hull n°26 year 1990, we got our hold rear bumper covered with Sunbrella. It is a reasonable solution, less than 100€, if your foam is either in good shape or still reparable and the fixation plate on the rear in good condition.
Hope it can help and save time and money.
Alain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fridge for Santorin

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

I have placed it in 2 locations. The first was under the salon seat next to the forward head wall. There I took out the macerator. It worked out very well as a freezer.  The other location is in the cockpit locker. There I use it for cold drinks. I also had a large Engel 50 cooler on the cockpit floor for cold drinks. Cold beverages, easily available for the captain and  3 crew, keep the contents in the 2 drawer frig cold. Now I use  to small Engel  for drinks, but can use it as a freezer. I found the freezer in the 2 drawer unit meets my needs.

Cheers,

Ric

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fridge for Santorin

 

 

Ric

Where have you placed the Engel 35?

Thanks

Sonya

Calypso II M47



---In amelyachtowners@..., <ric@...> wrote :

Hi,

I replaced my Frig. several years ago with a 2 drawer ac/dc vitrifrigo. It has a SS finish and fits with very little modification. The top drawer is a freezer and bottom refrigerator. You can adjust the temperature. Both drawers has a large capacity. My Santorin did not have a separate freezer, so it is a major improvement. I have also added an Engel 35 for additional freezer space  

Ric

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fridge for Santorin

 

 

Hi Santorin Owners,

did anyone exchange the fridge? We are looking for a replacement that should have a small freezer, like the original one. Our fridge runs now about 2/3 of the time or more and needs too much amps per day, so we think we will replace it by a new model, but it should fit without modifications at the nice mahagoni door...


we found the Waeco CRX110 would fit from the dimensions, has also a nice freezer, but the opening mechanism seems not to be compatible with the current system/door.

The Isotherm Cruise 130 would also fit but there is no real freezer inside, only for temporary use (info from the manual)

What models will fit, any recommendations / experiences?

thx,  herbert
SN120, KALI MERA, Dominica

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fridge for Santorin

Daryl P
 

Ric

Where have you placed the Engel 35?

Thanks

Sonya

Calypso II M47



---In amelyachtowners@..., <ric@...> wrote :

Hi,

I replaced my Frig. several years ago with a 2 drawer ac/dc vitrifrigo. It has a SS finish and fits with very little modification. The top drawer is a freezer and bottom refrigerator. You can adjust the temperature. Both drawers has a large capacity. My Santorin did not have a separate freezer, so it is a major improvement. I have also added an Engel 35 for additional freezer space  

Ric

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fridge for Santorin

 

 

Hi Santorin Owners,

did anyone exchange the fridge? We are looking for a replacement that should have a small freezer, like the original one. Our fridge runs now about 2/3 of the time or more and needs too much amps per day, so we think we will replace it by a new model, but it should fit without modifications at the nice mahagoni door...


we found the Waeco CRX110 would fit from the dimensions, has also a nice freezer, but the opening mechanism seems not to be compatible with the current system/door.

The Isotherm Cruise 130 would also fit but there is no real freezer inside, only for temporary use (info from the manual)

What models will fit, any recommendations / experiences?

thx,  herbert
SN120, KALI MERA, Dominica

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raw water manifold replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill Kinney,

I think that I clearly gave an opinion.

You have a right to an opinion, also.

I am not going to argue with you because you are far smarter than I am and have much more experience. But, I am sticking with my opinion.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 10, 2017 2:05 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

If the zinc wasn't necessary on the Onan it could easily have been replaced with a standard pipe plug, and heat exchangers are easy and (relatively) cheap to have custom made without a zinc fitting.  If those were good ideas, Amel would have done one or the other.


That zinc is needed to protect the materials in the Onan heat exchanger.  It is NOT redundant with the rudder zinc.  If the rudder zinc protected the Onan heat exchanger, why bother to replace the zinc when it dissolved? 

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Rose Island, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raw water manifold replacement

greatketch@...
 

If the zinc wasn't necessary on the Onan it could easily have been replaced with a standard pipe plug, and heat exchangers are easy and (relatively) cheap to have custom made without a zinc fitting.  If those were good ideas, Amel would have done one or the other.

That zinc is needed to protect the materials in the Onan heat exchanger.  It is NOT redundant with the rudder zinc.  If the rudder zinc protected the Onan heat exchanger, why bother to replace the zinc when it dissolved? 

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Rose Island, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Duane,

Attached is the drawing showing the cross section of the rub rail for our SM #240. Yours is may  be similar. Should be of significant help in understanding the details.

The rub rail is fiberglass integral with the hull, the rubber strip is simply a gutter and provides a closure. We have pulled it out and pushed it back in while repairing the fiberglass rubrail, not an easy job, but doable even on a 15 year old boat.

 

 

Mike Ondra

S/V Aletes SM#240

Miami, FL

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

 

 

The rub rail suffered damage due to being struck by another boat while at anchor.  I've read about how this is a rubber strip applied to the hull.  On my boat (2005 Amel Super Maramu) it appears to be fiberglass.  Am I mistaken?  I can't feel any seam below the rub rail, it feels like and appears to be composite with the hull.  The gutter is a separate piece that sets on top of the rub rail and there is a seam there.

It's frustrating because I went to the other boat after they anchored and politely told them I had 100' of chain out (a 4:1 scope) and they were too close.  They said they would "keep an eye on it".  We should have moved then, but there are very few choices right now.  The collision occured due to wind adverse to current and the propensity for their Cabo Rico to "sail" on the anchor.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

amelforme
 

Duane, the later model SM 53' all had the hard thermoplastic 'insert' that replaced the previous soft synthetic rubber type which works well but is prone to staining irreversibly. The hard insert is extremely difficult to replace. Let me emphasize extremely again! The synthetic rubber is much more simple to install and is, in fact, almost easy. You need to snatch up that used 'soft' rub rail insert. How much fiberglass damage did you sustain? I have supervised the repair of the fiberglass box section that supports the 'rub rail' several times and would be pleased to speak to whomever you select to repair it to share the methods we found to be the best way to proceed.

Joel F. Potter
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On Jan 10, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry to read about your misfortune Duane,

I can’t answer your question, but wanted to point out that on the Amel Yacht Owner group on Facebook, Olaf Bauer is selling an original Amel Ru rail for SM2K or Santorin 2 x 16 meter. Amel sells for 852 euro, he sells for 550 euro…

I would jump on the opportunity…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/10/17, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 9:45 AM


 









The rub rail suffered damage due to being struck by
another boat while at anchor.  I've read about how this
is a rubber strip applied to the hull.  On my boat (2005
Amel Super Maramu) it appears to be fiberglass.  Am I
mistaken?  I can't feel any seam below the rub rail, it
feels like and appears to be composite with the hull.  The
gutter is a separate piece that sets on top of the rub rail
and there is a seam there.

It's frustrating because I went to the
other boat after they anchored and politely told them I had
100' of chain out (a 4:1 scope) and they were too
close.  They said they would "keep an eye on
it".  We should have moved then, but there are very
few choices right now.  The collision occured due to wind
adverse to current and the propensity for their Cabo Rico to
"sail" on the anchor.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Duane,

This is the drawing showing the cross section of the rub rail for our SM #240. Yours is probably similar. Should be of significant help in understanding the details.

The rub rail is fiberglass integral with the hull, the rubber strip is simply a gutter and provides a closure. We have pulled it out and pushed it back in while repairing the fiberglass rubrail, not an easy job, but doable even on a 15 year old boat.

Mike Ondra

S/V Aletes SM#240

Miami, FL

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

 

 

The rub rail suffered damage due to being struck by another boat while at anchor.  I've read about how this is a rubber strip applied to the hull.  On my boat (2005 Amel Super Maramu) it appears to be fiberglass.  Am I mistaken?  I can't feel any seam below the rub rail, it feels like and appears to be composite with the hull.  The gutter is a separate piece that sets on top of the rub rail and there is a seam there.

It's frustrating because I went to the other boat after they anchored and politely told them I had 100' of chain out (a 4:1 scope) and they were too close.  They said they would "keep an eye on it".  We should have moved then, but there are very few choices right now.  The collision occured due to wind adverse to current and the propensity for their Cabo Rico to "sail" on the anchor.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Olaf is selling the rubber gutter material for earlier SMs and Santorins.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 10, 2017 11:59 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Sorry to read about your misfortune Duane,

I can’t answer your question, but wanted to point out that on the Amel Yacht Owner group on Facebook, Olaf Bauer is selling an original Amel Ru rail for SM2K or Santorin 2 x 16 meter. Amel sells for 852 euro, he sells for 550 euro…

I would jump on the opportunity…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/10/17, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 9:45 AM


 









The rub rail suffered damage due to being struck by
another boat while at anchor.  I've read about how this
is a rubber strip applied to the hull.  On my boat (2005
Amel Super Maramu) it appears to be fiberglass.  Am I
mistaken?  I can't feel any seam below the rub rail, it
feels like and appears to be composite with the hull.  The
gutter is a separate piece that sets on top of the rub rail
and there is a seam there.

It's frustrating because I went to the
other boat after they anchored and politely told them I had
100' of chain out (a 4:1 scope) and they were too
close.  They said they would "keep an eye on
it".  We should have moved then, but there are very
few choices right now.  The collision occured due to wind
adverse to current and the propensity for their Cabo Rico to
"sail" on the anchor.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

The gutter was a rubber-like material on earlier SMs, not yours. This is the reason you read about "rubber."

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 10, 2017 11:45 AM, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The rub rail suffered damage due to being struck by another boat while at anchor.  I've read about how this is a rubber strip applied to the hull.  On my boat (2005 Amel Super Maramu) it appears to be fiberglass.  Am I mistaken?  I can't feel any seam below the rub rail, it feels like and appears to be composite with the hull.  The gutter is a separate piece that sets on top of the rub rail and there is a seam there.

It's frustrating because I went to the other boat after they anchored and politely told them I had 100' of chain out (a 4:1 scope) and they were too close.  They said they would "keep an eye on it".  We should have moved then, but there are very few choices right now.  The collision occured due to wind adverse to current and the propensity for their Cabo Rico to "sail" on the anchor.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Sorry to read about your misfortune Duane,

I can’t answer your question, but wanted to point out that on the Amel Yacht Owner group on Facebook, Olaf Bauer is selling an original Amel Ru rail for SM2K or Santorin 2 x 16 meter. Amel sells for 852 euro, he sells for 550 euro…

I would jump on the opportunity…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI





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On Tue, 1/10/17, sailor63109@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 9:45 AM


 









The rub rail suffered damage due to being struck by
another boat while at anchor.  I've read about how this
is a rubber strip applied to the hull.  On my boat (2005
Amel Super Maramu) it appears to be fiberglass.  Am I
mistaken?  I can't feel any seam below the rub rail, it
feels like and appears to be composite with the hull.  The
gutter is a separate piece that sets on top of the rub rail
and there is a seam there.

It's frustrating because I went to the
other boat after they anchored and politely told them I had
100' of chain out (a 4:1 scope) and they were too
close.  They said they would "keep an eye on
it".  We should have moved then, but there are very
few choices right now.  The collision occured due to wind
adverse to current and the propensity for their Cabo Rico to
"sail" on the anchor.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477











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