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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,
whiles Bills technical advice has been valuable I believe his aggressive (in the nicest possible way) insistence that we change nothing until we have owned the boat some time has been even more valuable and has contributed markedly to maintaining the value of the fleet.

I am sure many of us have been saved from unwise actions by this advice. To quote him "the Captain knows best". The many idiosyncrasies of the Amel design have years of research and practical application behind them which have produced exceptional  yachts, different yes but always with good reason.
Thanks Bill
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "jandrkennedy@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2017 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 
Reading Joels post I have to add my enthusiasm for the "editor" suggestion

- I have been quiet on the forum as I do not have an Amel yet (2017 I will be purchasing though) - Yet I have been reading almost everything and I would like to add that Bill (and others) bring a passion to this wonderful creation - I have looked at other types - I will not mention them - but it is the passion for them that sets these apart.

So a big thanks to Bill you have made my learning so much better and given me confidence in the "Amel system"- and actually - you and the forum have "sold" me on the AMEL. 

Amel should really foster this/sponsor this as it is this passion and support that will help them also.

When you are a sailor you join an unofficial club as you love sailing - but when you join the Amel group you have people worldwide who are willing to help.

A Big Thanks from Jim in  NZ




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

jandrkennedy@...
 

Reading Joels post I have to add my enthusiasm for the "editor" suggestion

- I have been quiet on the forum as I do not have an Amel yet (2017 I will be purchasing though) - Yet I have been reading almost everything and I would like to add that Bill (and others) bring a passion to this wonderful creation - I have looked at other types - I will not mention them - but it is the passion for them that sets these apart.

So a big thanks to Bill you have made my learning so much better and given me confidence in the "Amel system"- and actually - you and the forum have "sold" me on the AMEL. 

Amel should really foster this/sponsor this as it is this passion and support that will help them also.

When you are a sailor you join an unofficial club as you love sailing - but when you join the Amel group you have people worldwide who are willing to help.

A Big Thanks from Jim in  NZ


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

Courtney Gorman
 

and a newbie who cannot spell LMAO
Hear, Hear!!


-----Original Message-----
From: Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2017 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 
Here Here as a newbie still looking I have been amazed with all the insight and information you share Bill.
Thanks
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2017 10:55 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 
Admiral Bill, I initiated this thread because it would not be good for the group, nor for you I dare say, to just have you ride into the sunset. At the very least we hope you will keep your ever loving eyes on all of us Amelians on the Yahoo site and do your best to help us keep our boats sound, our evolutions wholesome, and the preservation of a deep “ Be Careful” attitude amongst the new cognoscente that will be up and coming in the near future. Many folks think I preach the “take it easy/ be careful/think thrice” dictum because I drank too much Amel Kool Aid when all of my connections to Amel stuff was fortified by spending a great deal of time with them in the Amel Bastion of La Rochelle/Perigny.  While I am not quite as steadfast with the don’t change nothing pronouncement that you were wise to espouse, I came by my belief to keep it the way The Captain intended when I was able to spend what comes down to months and months in La Rochelle over more than three decades of visits, learning the why’s and how’s of,” Jhoe-ell, ziss iz why we do zat “ .I could spend several paragraphs giving praise to all the Amel folks that shared with me the why and how of Amel, taught me the reasons that they deviated from conventional thinking, and instilled in me the more than fierce pride that each and every freaking  body who worked there has in THEIR company. I maintain my Amel Esprit De Corps and, as anyone who knows me will tell you, my enthusiasm for almost all things Amel is profound, genuine and unassailable. SO IS YOURS!!! Please agree to be the site’s Editor Emeritus and share the deepest resource of Amel knowledge we have available to us, you. Please…
 
Anyone who is reading this and has yet to post a’ Here Here’ to this thread, please do so and add your comments. Otherwise, as Joni Mitchell sang,” Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you got ‘till it’s gone?”
 
Your Buddy, Joel
 
Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954 462 5869 office
954 812 2485 cell
 
 
 
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill
 
 
Here Here!!
We're going to miss you Bill, please don't make us go cold turkey!
Kent
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

Courtney Gorman
 

Here Here as a newbie still looking I have been amazed with all the insight and information you share Bill.
Thanks
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2017 10:55 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 
Admiral Bill, I initiated this thread because it would not be good for the group, nor for you I dare say, to just have you ride into the sunset. At the very least we hope you will keep your ever loving eyes on all of us Amelians on the Yahoo site and do your best to help us keep our boats sound, our evolutions wholesome, and the preservation of a deep “ Be Careful” attitude amongst the new cognoscente that will be up and coming in the near future. Many folks think I preach the “take it easy/ be careful/think thrice” dictum because I drank too much Amel Kool Aid when all of my connections to Amel stuff was fortified by spending a great deal of time with them in the Amel Bastion of La Rochelle/Perigny.  While I am not quite as steadfast with the don’t change nothing pronouncement that you were wise to espouse, I came by my belief to keep it the way The Captain intended when I was able to spend what comes down to months and months in La Rochelle over more than three decades of visits, learning the why’s and how’s of,” Jhoe-ell, ziss iz why we do zat “ .I could spend several paragraphs giving praise to all the Amel folks that shared with me the why and how of Amel, taught me the reasons that they deviated from conventional thinking, and instilled in me the more than fierce pride that each and every freaking  body who worked there has in THEIR company. I maintain my Amel Esprit De Corps and, as anyone who knows me will tell you, my enthusiasm for almost all things Amel is profound, genuine and unassailable. SO IS YOURS!!! Please agree to be the site’s Editor Emeritus and share the deepest resource of Amel knowledge we have available to us, you. Please…
 
Anyone who is reading this and has yet to post a’ Here Here’ to this thread, please do so and add your comments. Otherwise, as Joni Mitchell sang,” Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you got ‘till it’s gone?”
 
Your Buddy, Joel
 
Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954 462 5869 office
954 812 2485 cell
 
 
 
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill
 
 
Here Here!!
We're going to miss you Bill, please don't make us go cold turkey!
Kent
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Hi Joel,

Seems you are doing fine. Passionate as ever.   We seemed to have missed several connections but all is well.  I am having Dreamtime surveyed on the hard for insurance purposes.  And will soon launch her....to what end I am not sure.  I do plan on taking a trip to Antigua to get out of this brutal cold.  Let me add to wise advice: be careful what you wish for.   I love winter sports out here, but minus 30 to plus 15 for 30 days, add about 2 feet of snow...and palm trees start waving in one's mind.

Just know that my ranch is not for sale, but my boat will always be.  I never get in a rush that is why I liked hiking and sailing more than driving a race car.

As always your advice on any changes would be welcome. 

Duncan

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:55 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Admiral Bill, I initiated this thread because it would not be good for the group, nor for you I dare say, to just have you ride into the sunset. At the very least we hope you will keep your ever loving eyes on all of us Amelians on the Yahoo site and do your best to help us keep our boats sound, our evolutions wholesome, and the preservation of a deep “ Be Careful” attitude amongst the new cognoscente that will be up and coming in the near future. Many folks think I preach the “take it easy/ be careful/think thrice” dictum because I drank too much Amel Kool Aid when all of my connections to Amel stuff was fortified by spending a great deal of time with them in the Amel Bastion of La Rochelle/Perigny.  While I am not quite as steadfast with the don’t change nothing pronouncement that you were wise to espouse, I came by my belief to keep it the way The Captain intended when I was able to spend what comes down to months and months in La Rochelle over more than three decades of visits, learning the why’s and how’s of,” Jhoe-ell, ziss iz why we do zat “ .I could spend several paragraphs giving praise to all the Amel folks that shared with me the why and how of Amel, taught me the reasons that they deviated from conventional thinking, and instilled in me the more than fierce pride that each and every freaking  body who worked there has in THEIR company. I maintain my Amel Esprit De Corps and, as anyone who knows me will tell you, my enthusiasm for almost all things Amel is profound, genuine and unassailable. SO IS YOURS!!! Please agree to be the site’s Editor Emeritus and share the deepest resource of Amel knowledge we have available to us, you. Please…

 

Anyone who is reading this and has yet to post a’ Here Here’ to this thread, please do so and add your comments. Otherwise, as Joni Mitchell sang,” Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you got ‘till it’s gone?”

 

Your Buddy, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 

 

Here Here!!
We're going to miss you Bill, please don't make us go cold turkey!
Kent

 

 




--
Duncan Hagemeyer
24 Rock Creek Road
Emigrant, MT  59027

1-615-478-6006

1-406-848-9866 {allow rings and call will transfer to my cell or VM}


Re: Admiral Bill

Jim Anderson
 

Hear hear as well, thank you for so much, Bill!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

Thomas Peacock
 

Great summation, Joel.  I would certainly add a very hearty "Hear, hear" for Admiral Bill.  His advice has been generous and accurate.

Tom Peacock
Aletes, SM 240
Key West

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


















































Admiral Bill, I initiated this thread because it would not be good for the group, nor for you I dare say, to just have you ride into the sunset. At the very least we hope you will keep your ever loving eyes on all of us Amelians on the Yahoo site and do your best to help us keep our boats sound, our evolutions wholesome, and the preservation of a deep “ Be Careful” attitude amongst the new cognoscente that will be up and coming in the near future. Many folks think I preach the “take it easy/ be careful/think thrice” dictum because I drank too much Amel Kool Aid when all of my connections to Amel stuff was fortified by spending a great deal of time with them in the Amel Bastion of La Rochelle/Perigny.  While I am not quite as steadfast with the don’t change nothing pronouncement that you were wise to espouse, I came by my belief to keep it the way The Captain intended when I was able to spend what comes down to months and months in La Rochelle over more than three decades of visits, learning the why’s and how’s of,” Jhoe-ell, ziss iz why we do zat “ .I could spend several paragraphs giving praise to all the Amel folks that shared with me the why and how of Amel, taught me the reasons that they deviated from conventional thinking, and instilled in me the more than fierce pride that each and every freaking  body who worked there has in THEIR company. I maintain my Amel Esprit De Corps and, as anyone who knows me will tell you, my enthusiasm for almost all things Amel is profound, genuine and unassailable. SO IS YOURS!!! Please agree to be the site’s Editor Emeritus and share the deepest resource of Amel knowledge we have available to us, you. Please…

 

Anyone who is reading this and has yet to post a’ Here Here’ to this thread, please do so and add your comments. Otherwise, as Joni Mitchell sang,” Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you got ‘till it’s gone?”

 

Your Buddy, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 

 

Here Here!!
We're going to miss you Bill, please don't make us go cold turkey!
Kent

 

 










































Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

amelforme
 

Admiral Bill, I initiated this thread because it would not be good for the group, nor for you I dare say, to just have you ride into the sunset. At the very least we hope you will keep your ever loving eyes on all of us Amelians on the Yahoo site and do your best to help us keep our boats sound, our evolutions wholesome, and the preservation of a deep “ Be Careful” attitude amongst the new cognoscente that will be up and coming in the near future. Many folks think I preach the “take it easy/ be careful/think thrice” dictum because I drank too much Amel Kool Aid when all of my connections to Amel stuff was fortified by spending a great deal of time with them in the Amel Bastion of La Rochelle/Perigny.  While I am not quite as steadfast with the don’t change nothing pronouncement that you were wise to espouse, I came by my belief to keep it the way The Captain intended when I was able to spend what comes down to months and months in La Rochelle over more than three decades of visits, learning the why’s and how’s of,” Jhoe-ell, ziss iz why we do zat “ .I could spend several paragraphs giving praise to all the Amel folks that shared with me the why and how of Amel, taught me the reasons that they deviated from conventional thinking, and instilled in me the more than fierce pride that each and every freaking  body who worked there has in THEIR company. I maintain my Amel Esprit De Corps and, as anyone who knows me will tell you, my enthusiasm for almost all things Amel is profound, genuine and unassailable. SO IS YOURS!!! Please agree to be the site’s Editor Emeritus and share the deepest resource of Amel knowledge we have available to us, you. Please…

 

Anyone who is reading this and has yet to post a’ Here Here’ to this thread, please do so and add your comments. Otherwise, as Joni Mitchell sang,” Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you got ‘till it’s gone?”

 

Your Buddy, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 6:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Admiral Bill

 

 

Here Here!!
We're going to miss you Bill, please don't make us go cold turkey!
Kent

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Which Amel ? Does anyone know the ehistory of design changes / revisions for Super Maramu

Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

I'd agree with that!!!


On Jan 16, 2017, at 9:22 PM, biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Mark,

   Bill is right, contact Joel Potter.  He can walk you through the history of the Amel line.  When I first started shopping in earnest Bill gave me the same advice to go to Joel.  Joel will certainly steer you right and answer all your questions about Amels...even the ones you didn't know you had!

                         Regards,  John

John Clark
"Vent de Soleil"   SM 037
Martinique



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Admiral Bill

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Bill,

As you know I am a big fan of yours!
Thanks again for your continuous support on the forum and also thanks again for coming with Judy 4 years ago and help in.

Hope you keep an eye on the forum!!!

Alexandre




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On Tue, 1/17/17, Ian Park parkianj@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Admiral Bill
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017, 12:31 AM


 









Another hear hear!

My limited knowledge has expanded incredibly thanks to many
owners out there. But when the discussions don't reach a
unanimous conclusion Bill always seems to put things to
bed.

Thanks Bill.



Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

Santorin LO
 

Thank you all for the advice, Please allow me to summarise the views so far: Chemicals - messy and risky, Sandblast - risky. Based on the Joel's detailed explanation - Scraping is way. One more open question here (believe for you Joel) - Sodablasting?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

antonio scipioni
 

Hi guys 
Last year I remove The old antifouling and I prefer to do this job by my hand. It is very tiresome, you can use a gently water sandblaster. 
Consider that is very important don't damage the gelcoat cause you 'll have in future osmosis problem.
Fair Winds
Antonio
Vagabundo
SN108 
Now in Cannigione 

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 17/gen/2017, alle ore 02:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Joel,


Do you have an opinion on soda blasting?  Like sand blasting but uses sodium carbonate (baking soda) instead of sand, a much softer, more gentle, material.  It's not available everywhere, and requires some specialized equipment.

I had a few boats stripped like this in the past, and the gelcoat sure LOOKED good afterwards, but I did not have a long enough followup to see any long term effects.

Bill Kinney
SM#160,  Harmonie
Big Majors Spot, Bahamas


Re: Admiral Bill

Ian Park
 

Another hear hear!
My limited knowledge has expanded incredibly thanks to many owners out there. But when the discussions don't reach a unanimous conclusion Bill always seems to put things to bed.
Thanks Bill.

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN 96


Re: Looking for info on early 80s Maramus

Jacob Champness
 

Thanks much for the helpful replies.  Survey is scheduled from January 27, so we'll see how that goes.  I'll definitely ask surveyor to check in to the mizzen mast box and the bulkhead seal.  I'll report back as I know more.  

All the best, 
Jacob


Re: Admiral Bill

John Clark
 

Dear All,

   While I am only 30 days into my tenure as an “Amel custodian,” I have been guided by Bill and Judy both on the forum and privately for almost a year before I finally found the right boat.

 

  When Bill first announce the sale of Bebe I had to confess to him that I had “used” him to convince the other half that we would be just fine at sea on an Amel because of all the technical support from the forum, and Bill especially.   Amel should give Bill an award, (or a paid position!) for all the support he has given the Amel brand. 

 

As for me I say thank you Bill, for the guidance how to find the right boat, the assistance during the purchasing process, and finally for making introductions that made me feel welcome to the group.   I certainly hope you will “stick around” but if your duties take you elsewhere it has been a  pleasure and an honor to  know you.    So I also say Here Here!

 

                           Regards,  John

 

John Clark

“Vent de Soleil” SM 037

Martinique.


Re: Admiral Bill

John Clark
 

Dear All,

   While I am only 30 days into my tenure as an “Amel custodian,” I have been guided by Bill and Judy both on the forum and privately for almost a year before I finally found the right boat.

 

  When Bill first announce the sale of Bebe I had to confess to him that I had “used” him to convince the other half that we would be just fine at sea on an Amel because of all the technical support from the forum, and Bill especially.   Amel should give Bill an award, (or a paid position!) for all the support he has given the Amel brand. 

 

As for me I say thank you Bill, for the guidance how to find the right boat, the assistance during the purchasing process, and finally for making introductions that made me feel welcome to the group.   I certainly hope you will “stick around” but if your duties take you elsewhere it has been a  pleasure and an honor to  know you.    So I also say Here Here!

 

                           Regards,  John

 

John Clark

“Vent de Soleil” SM 037

Martinique.

 

 


Re: Which Amel ? Does anyone know the ehistory of design changes / revisions for Super Maramu

John Clark
 

Hi Mark,
   Bill is right, contact Joel Potter.  He can walk you through the history of the Amel line.  When I first started shopping in earnest Bill gave me the same advice to go to Joel.  Joel will certainly steer you right and answer all your questions about Amels...even the ones you didn't know you had!

                         Regards,  John

John Clark
"Vent de Soleil"   SM 037
Martinique



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Admiral Bill

James Alton
 

Bill,

   You have been a great help to me and IMO ( and clearly many others feel the same way) have made a huge contribution to the board…of course you will be missed!  I hope that you will decide to drop in to give us a little more "attitude" from time to time.  Best of luck in your retirement or whatever else you will be doing.

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Jan 16, 2017, at 7:56 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I am really shocked. I thought that my "The-Amel-way-is-the-only-way" attitude had already pissed all of you off!

Maybe I have not been forceful enough. 

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Jan 16, 2017 8:15 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

When I see a post from Bill Rouse, I never question if it is correct or not. I take it as fact.

 

When we purchased Cream Puff, Bill sent me a DVD with all his maintenance files and manuals. It is still my first go to source when I have a question or need to understand something better. I can honestly say, Bill was one of reasons we purchased an Amel. He was so passionate on the forum (we joined prior to our purchases) that it made me question many of the things we found in other boats. He certainly made Joel's job a little easier. I have slowly found out he was right and there was good reason for his passion. I have emailed Bill several times outside the forum and he has always taken time to respond. I wish I could download his brain (just the Amel stuff) and have it for the rest of our cruising days. Bill contributions to this group are priceless.

 

Selfishly, I hope Bill doesn't leave us cold turkey. This forum will never be quite the same without him.

 

Bill, thank you, thank you, thank you.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff and Bill's biggest fan

 

SM2K #275 - Currently cruising: Key West, FL - Still waiting for the wind to change direction

 

 

www.creampuff.us

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

greatketch@...
 

Joel,

Do you have an opinion on soda blasting?  Like sand blasting but uses sodium carbonate (baking soda) instead of sand, a much softer, more gentle, material.  It's not available everywhere, and requires some specialized equipment.

I had a few boats stripped like this in the past, and the gelcoat sure LOOKED good afterwards, but I did not have a long enough followup to see any long term effects.

Bill Kinney
SM#160,  Harmonie
Big Majors Spot, Bahamas


Re: Admiral Bill

greatketch@...
 

Bill,

Your evangelizing for the "Amel Way" has done a great service to all Amel owners. Your detailed knowledge of how these boats work and what to do when they do not work has made all of us other owners the better.

I know my boat is better and worth more to me because of your time and effort on this forum.  I have an idea of how much time you put into answering the questions from newbies and experienced owners over the years, and it has been a fantastic resource.

Bill Kinney
SM#160, Harmonie
Big Majors Spot, Bahamas