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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

karkauai
 

Please, Bill, post it in the files section.  What a great idea!

Kent
Kristy SM243


Santorin Bonding System

Azimuth
 

Good Afternoon,


I recently acquired an Amel Santorin and, while an electrician was on board checking an electrical leak, noticed that there appears to be a failure in the bonding system.  The steering system does appear to be protected, however the readings on the engine, drive, and through-hulls indicate that they are not protected.  


Does anyone have a diagram or can someone offer a description of how the bonding system is connected throughout the boat?  Is the engine bonding a separate system from the steering/rudder? I tried following the wiring back, but could not track beyond the aft cabin.


Many thanks,


Lisa Tharpe
S/V Azimuth
Hull #143



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

greatketch@...
 

We found Noonsite to be good place to start our research.  It is comprehensive and you will find an answer. 

Unfortunately, while it might be "best available", the information on Noonsite can be quite out of date, and is very infrequently updated.  For example, they have the check-in requirements for Puerto Rico quite wrong.  Not disastrously so, but obviously several years behind the real world and not in accordance with current regulations.  Just look at the dates for the posted comments.  There is very little website traffic on Noonsite these days. Official vetted and edited updates of the detailed pages come very infrequently. The PR clearance  information was last updated in 2014, despite well publicized changes to small boat clearance procedures in the meantime. In my opinion, Noonsite is "coasting" on name and reputation, and is getting less useful by the year.

Unfortunately, there is no source I have found to have an update cycle fast enough to recommend as really uniformly  authoritative. Even the e-book cruising guides that claim to have annual updates we have found to be years behind changes on the ground.

We always check as many sources as possible for information, usually, but not always, finding the website for the national government involved to be the most useful with current requirements, if not always the clearest explanations!  Who does the US Customs and Border Patrol get to write the text on their website?  I think they farm it out to the same people who wrote the manual for that last electronic gadget I bought from China...

I see so much information posted on web forums and such that is just plain wrong, or at least presenting a highly exceptional case as a generality, that postings of unknown provenance I tend to deeply discount.

We have found SailClear to be a good idea, that isn't actually used by the local officials.  Are there any countries that people have found it to actually be used as advertised?

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
La Perguera, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Mark,

As a whole, the eastern Caribbean is fairly easy and inexpensive for customs immigration.  When you compare it to Mexico and spots in Central America, it is a piece of cake. 

We are registered with both sail clear and eseaclear (Antigua), and we're able to register online in a few minutes with immediate access to the system. If you choose not to register, no harm and no foul, they just throw you the same form in the office to fill out. Also, using sail clear, 2 out of 3 times the computer system in customs was down, and had to fill out forms anyway. Eseaclear in Antigua has worked well both times I've used it. One nice thing about the systems is that once registered, when you pull up the page, it is already populated with most of your boat and passport info. 

You will find all the French islands to be by far the easiest. Depending on where you clear, some local merchant will have a computer in the store with a simple 1 page form to fill. Five minutes later you will pay from 0 to max of 4 euros, and be walking out the door. Did I mention how good the croissants are in the French islands?

Hope to see you guys down this way soon. 

Steve and Liz
Aloha SM72
Sint Maarten

On Mar 8, 2017, at 07:46, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Mark

When I left San Juan, Puerto Rico, for Tortola, BVI, I went to SailClear (registered, etc.) but emigration/customs never replied…
I actually just logged in and I am still “pending” (since October 30)…

May be others have a better experience…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

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On Wed, 3/8/17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, March 8, 2017, 7:27 AM


 

















Does anyone have
recommendations for on-line tools such as
SailClear for the check-in procedures in the Caribbean? Do
they help? Any suggestions
on what to use, speed the process and make it easier?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream
Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising –
Black Point – Exuma Islands,
Bahamas

www.creampuff.us

 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks Bill. The Crew List is a good idea. I’ll look forward to seeing yours and will most likely plagiarize.

 

We cannot do SVRS since I am British, Cindy is American and Cream Puff is BVI.

 

I do use noonsite but find it is lacking in details for vessels other than USA or American travelers. Most often we check with the “official” government C&I site to get the info we need.

 

I thought SailClear sounded too good to be true. And, there is also the concern of website security etc.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising - Black Point – Exuma Islands, Bahamas

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

 

 

Mark,

 

"The Caribbean" is a combination of about 15 independent countries, each with different rules. 

 

You should register with US SVRS, if you haven't. SVRS allows US citizens clear electronically. SailClear is helpful, but you still have to physically report to officials. SailClear will help you prepare documents. 

 

As you know, noonsite.com is the best information available. 

 

The best tool we used to clear into 58 countries was a 1 page Crew List, which we printed on arrival. It included a photo of the boat and about 12 specifications including measurements, engine hp, dinghy info, etc. Also, included was a photo of the photo-page of our passports and all of the identifying information. This crew list accomplished two things: it communicates that you are professional, and it makes the official's job easy. When we checked into a country that needed another piece of information, we added it to our Crew List form. In more than half of the countries, the officials used our Crew List as the official clearance document and we did not have to fill out any form. But, even if you have to fill out their form, the Crew List makes it easy. 

 

I can email it to you. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

 

 

On Mar 8, 2017 07:34, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have recommendations for on-line tools such as SailClear for the check-in procedures in the Caribbean? Do they help? Any suggestions on what to use, speed the process and make it easier?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Black Point – Exuma Islands, Bahamas

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

"The Caribbean" is a combination of about 15 independent countries, each with different rules. 

You should register with US SVRS, if you haven't. SVRS allows US citizens clear electronically. SailClear is helpful, but you still have to physically report to officials. SailClear will help you prepare documents. 

As you know, noonsite.com is the best information available. 

The best tool we used to clear into 58 countries was a 1 page Crew List, which we printed on arrival. It included a photo of the boat and about 12 specifications including measurements, engine hp, dinghy info, etc. Also, included was a photo of the photo-page of our passports and all of the identifying information. This crew list accomplished two things: it communicates that you are professional, and it makes the official's job easy. When we checked into a country that needed another piece of information, we added it to our Crew List form. In more than half of the countries, the officials used our Crew List as the official clearance document and we did not have to fill out any form. But, even if you have to fill out their form, the Crew List makes it easy. 

I can email it to you. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Mar 8, 2017 07:34, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone have recommendations for on-line tools such as SailClear for the check-in procedures in the Caribbean? Do they help? Any suggestions on what to use, speed the process and make it easier?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Black Point – Exuma Islands, Bahamas

www.creampuff.us

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Mark

When I left San Juan, Puerto Rico, for Tortola, BVI, I went to SailClear (registered, etc.) but emigration/customs never replied…
I actually just logged in and I am still “pending” (since October 30)…

May be others have a better experience…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI




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On Wed, 3/8/17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 8, 2017, 7:27 AM


 

















Does anyone have
recommendations for on-line tools such as
SailClear for the check-in procedures in the Caribbean? Do
they help? Any suggestions
on what to use, speed the process and make it easier?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream
Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising –
Black Point – Exuma Islands,
Bahamas

www.creampuff.us


Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Mark Erdos
 

Does anyone have recommendations for on-line tools such as SailClear for the check-in procedures in the Caribbean? Do they help? Any suggestions on what to use, speed the process and make it easier?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Black Point – Exuma Islands, Bahamas

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water hose join to pipe

James Alton
 

Bill,

   I had a good laugh a couple times today thinking of your sledgehammer and plexiglass window removal!  You ask an interesting question about whether it makes sense to use caulking that can end up lasting longer than the plexiglass.   With some sharp reefing tools and sharped putty knives it is possible to cut through the 3145 but it is not much fun.  

  I use the C-sink method with caulk as well and agree that is a good idea.  I hadn’t thought about the not turning the bolt when using butyl and will keep that in mind.  Thanks for all of the butyl tips,  I will start using some and see how it goes.

James Alton
SV  Sueno,  Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy

On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James,


With butyl you can clean the edges... but it is still sticky (and will always be) and debris just sticks again.  So for a place with a thick, exposed seam, it might not be best choice.  

There are some little tips and tricks that aren't really unique to bedding butyl, but seem to help.  Where bolts go through a deck, put a little countersink around the bolt hole to give the butyl someplace to flow into and seal more of the bolt's length.  When tightening bolts, try as much as possible to turn the nut, NOT the bolt, to keep from spinning the butyl around. If two parts have a really tight fit, I have put washers between them as spacers to make sure that I don't squeeze out too much of the butyl.

I replaced a large plexiglass window in an old S2 sailboat that was installed with 3145 that didn't leak but was crazed to opaque.  The manufacturer's recommended method for removal of the old window:  Sledgehammer. It worked :)

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
La Parguera, Puerto Rico.


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Bill,
   
  Thanks for your input on the butyl tape.  I always wondered if it were safe to use on/under plexiglass so good to know.    Can you clean up the dirt that attaches with a solvent?  I am going to start using the butyl tape as a bedding material and see how I like it.  

  I thought that I would mention a caulki ng that has worked well for me in bedding large plexiglass windows with a lot of movement.  It is the Dow Corning 3145, which is a non corrosive (actually primarily used for electrical work), very elastic and strong  silicone caulking.  If you sand the edge of the plexiglass and apply the plastic primer recommended by Dow(I can get the part # on the primer if anyone needs it) to the bonding surfaces, the adhesion is amazing.  I used this initially on a customers boat that had a lot of flex in the cabin trunk and huge windows that tore the regular marine silicone caulkings apart in 2-3 years with regularity.  The  3145  generally lasted 7-8 years which saved a lot of labour.   It only comes in clear and gray unfortunately and the gray is what you want for long UV exposure.  One downside is that the stuff can take a lot of heat so using a heat gun to warm a fitting for removal is not very effective.  A sharpened putty knife see ms to be the best way to go.

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water hose join to pipe

greatketch@...
 

James,

With butyl you can clean the edges... but it is still sticky (and will always be) and debris just sticks again.  So for a place with a thick, exposed seam, it might not be best choice.  

There are some little tips and tricks that aren't really unique to bedding butyl, but seem to help.  Where bolts go through a deck, put a little countersink around the bolt hole to give the butyl someplace to flow into and seal more of the bolt's length.  When tightening bolts, try as much as possible to turn the nut, NOT the bolt, to keep from spinning the butyl around. If two parts have a really tight fit, I have put washers between them as spacers to make sure that I don't squeeze out too much of the butyl.

I replaced a large plexiglass window in an old S2 sailboat that was installed with 3145 that didn't leak but was crazed to opaque.  The manufacturer's recommended method for removal of the old window:  Sledgehammer. It worked :)

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
La Parguera, Puerto Rico.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <lokiyawl2@...> wrote :

Bill,
   
  Thanks for your input on the butyl tape.  I always wondered if it were safe to use on/under plexiglass so good to know.    Can you clean up the dirt that attaches with a solvent?  I am going to start using the butyl tape as a bedding material and see how I like it.  

  I thought that I would mention a caulking that has worked well for me in bedding large plexiglass windows with a lot of movement.  It is the Dow Corning 3145, which is a non corrosive (actually primarily used for electrical work), very elastic and strong  silicone caulking.  If you sand the edge of the plexiglass and apply the plastic primer recommended by Dow(I can get the part # on the primer if anyone needs it) to the bonding surfaces, the adhesion is amazing.  I used this initially on a customers boat that had a lot of flex in the cabin trunk and huge windows that tore the regular marine silicone caulkings apart in 2-3 years with regularity.  The  3145  generally lasted 7-8 years which saved a lot of labour.   It only comes in clear and gray unfortunately and the gray is what you want for long UV exposure.  One downside is that the stuff can take a lot of heat so using a heat gun to warm a fitting for removal is not very effective.  A sharpened putty knife seems to be the best way to go.

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

W Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

And Max!
We've got to meet at sometime. I had no idea there was a bird of similar feather on the forum!
Very cool.
PM


W. Porter McRoberts MD FAAPMR ABPMR ABA/Pain
Director Interventional Spine, Pain Medicine, Neurosurgery
Holy Cross Hospital
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Assistant Professor, University of Miami School of Medicine
www.internationalhouseofpain.com
portermcroberts@gmail.com

On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Massimo Vecchietti massimovecchietti@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


.....I am an anesthesiology and pain therapist....It seems to me that you have a root compression....I have seen that you have dad 4 surgical approach.
I think thah the therapy is unbalancet only towards pain an not for the "origin " of pain.
Pain is coming from radicular edema caused by a compression.
If you find an anestesiologist the main tharpy is to injecy in peridural space ( epidural injection) a cortisonic drug.
Max

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2017-03-05 18:24 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>:

[Attachment(s) <x-msg://22/#m_-859003613213994532_TopText> from Alexandre Uster von Baar included below]
Good afternoon Porter,

Thanks for your message.

Here is the copy of the MRI report.
Therefore, like everything else in the Caribbean, how to be sure that the “local” person (in Tortola) did an accurate reading…

The pain medication is definitely too mild, the pain wakes me up at night then can not sleep.
-1 x Diclofenac Sodium 75 mg every 12 hours
-1 x Baclofen 10 mg every 8 hours
-1 x Tramadol hydrocholide 50 mg every 6 hours
-2 x Paracetamol 500 mg every 6 hours

A friend send me information from a medical web site called “up to date” and it seems all the treatments say “evidence of effectiveness are lacking” or “quality of evidence considered low”…

“local” doctors say it will resolved itself within 2 weeks (somehow I doubt)…
Would love to hear your feedback.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 3/5/17, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@gmail.com <mailto:portermcroberts@gmail.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017, 7:07 AM












Alexandre,I'd be happy to
talk to you. Anytime. This is what I do. Up until May
25th! Let
me know if you'd like to chat. Porter
McRoberts
Www.internationalhouseofpain.com <http://www.internationalhouseofpain.com/>

Sent from my iPad
On Mar 5,
2017, at 7:53 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:























Good morning Eric,



Thanks so much for your message.

I actually posted by mistake this on the forum...



I am quite upset with the local doctor, that prescribe too
mild medication, the pain constantly wakes me up at night…


Anyway, I don’t know when I will arrive in St Martin,
being solo and in pain, I have to be more cautious than
usual.

It is possible that I leave on the 11 and arrive on the 12,
but not sure as I could wait for better weather too…



As always thanks so much…

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite@optonline.net>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Saturday, March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM

























Hi Alexandre,

If you get to SXM before the 13th.

I have some stuff in my kit that will help.

I am also VERY friendly with a local pharmacist who

knows everyone on the Dutch side.

Good Luck,

Eric



Eric



----- Original

Message -----

From: "Alexandre

Uster von

Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com> [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back

Problems

To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



Good morning Kent,
I
had a friend who had 3 surgeries and still back pain…

Well Saturday night, had back pain again,
this time it was

intolerable and my
left leg was numb.

In the morning went
to a clinique, the doctor gave an injection

of Voltaren, no effect. Later she gave an
injection of

steroids, no effect.
She sent me to the emergency room who gave
me another injection:

no effect, then
an injection of Morphine, still no effect.

Neither they or I could believe it… They
said they couldn’t

inject anything
else in fear I would overdose.

I saw a
doctor (who was smelling booze 1/2 meter away) who said

he did not want me on medication to see
the full effect in the

morning, then
to have an MRI… so couldn’t sleep all night.

In the morning surprisingly they gave me
medication, the doctor

did not come…
just as I was going to sleep, my neighbor put his

TV loud and was singing rap music…
Administration came and said it was $1170
per day plus

medication, X Ray, etc. I
said this is crazy.

I was supposed to
have the MRI in the afternoon, somehow did not

happened, I was getting pretty upset, my
blood pressure reach

160/100 in the
evening.

Received medication, slept
ok, again delay for the MRI, I told a

nice doctor, I will leave today, as I can’t keep
paying

$1170

per day for waiting, he said I
misunderstood the price, that

this was
for everything, he called administration who came and

said, since I am not a “local”, this
is the price for “Visitors”

(tourist). The doctor was stunned.

Had
MRI, the tech person (unofficially) show me a disc
pointing



out which causes the numb leg and the
pain.

The Hospital wanted me to stay
one more day for the doctor MRI’s

reading, I said NO, we argue for 2 hours, then I was able
to



discharged myself against medical
advice. The nice doctor

prescribe me
medication.

Was presented a bill of
over $4000. I refused to pay the day I

was waiting for the MRI.

On the bill
they even charge $0.50 for the little cup in which

they bring the medication ?!? crazy.
I told them if they had told me the price,
I would have decline

and take a plane
for St martin.

We settle, I left in
pain as the medication was wearing off.

I have a bag of medication that should
help me up to 2 weeks.

I am looking at
the first weather opportunity to go to St

Martin.
Since I am hanging myself (upside down)
from the mast hoping

this will
elongate the spine and easy the problem…

I started to stretch last week (before the
pain in the leg) will

resume as soon
as I feel better.

How is everything
else? Any chance for your eye? How about the

family problems?
Alexandre

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On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo.com <mailto:karkauai@yahoo.com>


[amelyachtowners]
wrote:

Subject:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Date:
Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14 AM

Hi Alex. Sorry to
hear about your back

issues. I've
had 4 spine surgeries over the last 40

years. After the last one, I started doing "back

yoga", just gentle stretching and
core strengthening,

no pretzel stuff.
It's been like a miracle for

me.Best of

luck!
KentKristy SM243


























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning I just tried to call you to thank you and just emailed you... (5 seconds ago)...
Not sure you were already in Martinique.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 3/7/17, W Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 9:46 AM


 









Completely agree.  Alexandre did you get my voice
mail?
ThanksPorter

W. Porter McRoberts MD FAAPMR
ABPMR ABA/PainDirector
Interventional Spine, Pain Medicine, NeurosurgeryHoly Cross HospitalFort Lauderdale,
FL Assistant
Professor, University of Miami School of Medicinewww.internationalhouseofpain.comportermcroberts@gmail.com











On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:59 AM,
Massimo Vecchietti massimovecchietti@gmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

.....I am an
anesthesiology  and pain therapist....It seems to me that
you have a root compression....I have seen that you have dad
  4 surgical approach.I
think thah the therapy is unbalancet only towards pain an
not for the "origin " of pain.Pain is coming from radicular
edema caused by a compression.If you find an anestesiologist
the main tharpy is to injecy in peridural space ( epidural
injection) a cortisonic drug.Max
Mail priva di virus. www.avast.com
2017-03-05 18:24 GMT+01:00
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>:
 [Attachment(s) from
Alexandre Uster von Baar included below]Good
afternoon Porter, 

Thanks for your message.

Here is the copy of the MRI
report.
Therefore, like everything else
in the Caribbean, how to be sure that the “local” person
(in Tortola) did an accurate reading…  

The pain medication is definitely
too mild, the pain wakes me up at night then can not
sleep. 
-1 x Diclofenac
Sodium 75 mg every 12 hours 
-1 x Baclofen 10 mg
every 8 hours
-1
x Tramadol hydrocholide 50 mg every 6 hours
-2 x Paracetamol 500 mg every 6
hours

A friend send me
information from a medical web site called “up to date”
and it seems all the treatments say “evidence of
effectiveness are lacking” or “quality of evidence
considered low”…  

“local” doctors say it will
resolved itself within 2 weeks (somehow I doubt)…  
Would love to hear
your feedback.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On
Sun, 3/5/17, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@gmail.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com
Date:
Sunday, March 5, 2017, 7:07 AM


 









Alexandre,I'd be happy to
talk to you.
Anytime. This is what I do. Up until May
25th! Let
me know if you'd like to
chat. Porter
McRoberts
Www.internationalhouseofpain.
com
On Mar 5,
2017, at 7:53 AM,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>
wrote:
















 






Good morning Eric, 



Thanks so much for your
message.  

I actually posted by mistake this
on the forum... 



I am quite upset with the local
doctor, that prescribe too
mild medication, the pain
constantly wakes me up at night…


Anyway, I don’t know when I
will arrive in St Martin,
being solo and in pain, I have to
be more cautious than
usual.  

It is possible that I leave on
the 11 and arrive on the 12,
but not sure as I could wait for
better weather too…  



As always thanks so much…  

Sincerely, Alexandre



------------------------------
--------------

On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Back Problems

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Saturday,
March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM





 



















Hi Alexandre,

If you get to SXM before the
13th.

I have some stuff in
my kit that will help.

I am also VERY friendly with a
local pharmacist who

knows everyone on the Dutch
side.

Good Luck,

Eric

 

Eric



----- Original

Message -----

From: "Alexandre

Uster von

Baar uster@rocketmail.com [
amelyachtowners]"


Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11
pm

Subject: Re:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Back

Problems

To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com



> Good morning Kent, 

> I

had a friend who had 3 surgeries
and still back pain… 

> Well Saturday night, had
back pain again,

this time it was 

> intolerable and my

left leg was numb. 

> In the morning went

to a clinique, the doctor gave an
injection 

> of Voltaren, no effect.
Later she gave an

injection of 

> steroids, no effect. 

> She sent me to the emergency
room who gave

me another
injection: 

> no effect, then

an injection of Morphine, still
no effect. 

> Neither they or I could
believe it… They

said they couldn’t 

> inject anything

else in fear I would
overdose. 

> I saw a

doctor (who was smelling booze
1/2 meter away) who said 

> he did not want me on
medication to see

the full effect in the 

> morning, then

to have an MRI… so couldn’t
sleep all night. 

> In the morning surprisingly
they gave me

medication, the
doctor 

> did not come…

just as I was going to sleep, my
neighbor put his 

> TV loud and was singing rap
music… 

> Administration came and said
it was $1170

per day plus 

> medication, X Ray, etc. I

said this is crazy.

> I was supposed to

have the MRI in the afternoon,
somehow did not 

> happened, I was getting
pretty upset, my

blood pressure reach 

> 160/100 in the

evening. 

> Received medication,
slept

ok, again delay for
the MRI, I told a 

>

nice doctor, I will leave today,
as I can’t keep
paying

$1170 

> per day for waiting, he said
I

misunderstood the
price, that 

> this was

for everything, he called
administration who came and 

> said, since I am not a
“local”, this

is the price for
“Visitors” 

>

(tourist). The doctor was
stunned. 

> Had

MRI, the tech person
(unofficially) show me a disc
pointing



> out which causes the numb
leg and the

pain. 

> The Hospital wanted me to
stay

one more day for the
doctor MRI’s 

>

reading, I said NO, we argue for
2 hours, then I was able
to



> discharged myself against
medical

advice. The nice
doctor 

> prescribe me

medication. 

> Was presented a bill of

over $4000. I refused to pay the
day I 

>

was waiting for the MRI. 

> On the bill

they even charge $0.50 for the
little cup in which 

> they bring the medication
?!? crazy. 

> I told them if they had told
me the price,

I would have
decline 

> and take a plane

for St martin. 

> We settle, I left in

pain as the medication was
wearing off. 

> I have a bag of medication
that should

help me up to 2
weeks. 

> I am looking at

the first weather opportunity to
go to St 

> Martin. 



> Since I am hanging myself
(upside down)

from the mast
hoping 

> this will

elongate the spine and easy the
problem… 

> I started to stretch last
week (before the

pain in the leg) will 

> resume as soon

as I feel better. 

> How is everything

else? Any chance for your eye?
How about the 

> family problems? 

>

Alexandre







>

------------------------------
--------------

> On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent
Robertson

karkauai@yahoo.com


> [amelyachtowners]

wrote:



> Subject:

[Amel Yacht Owners] Back
Problems

> To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

> Date:

Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14
AM





>  



















> Hi Alex.  Sorry to

hear about your back

> issues.  I've

had 4 spine surgeries over the
last 40

>

years.  After the last one, I
started doing "back

> yoga", just gentle
stretching and

core strengthening,

> no pretzel stuff.

 It's been like a miracle
for

>

me.Best of

> luck!

>

KentKristy SM243



>




































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

W Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

Completely agree.
Alexandre did you get my voice mail?

Thanks
Porter

W. Porter McRoberts MD FAAPMR ABPMR ABA/Pain
Director Interventional Spine, Pain Medicine, Neurosurgery
Holy Cross Hospital
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Assistant Professor, University of Miami School of Medicine
www.internationalhouseofpain.com
portermcroberts@gmail.com

On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Massimo Vecchietti massimovecchietti@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


.....I am an anesthesiology and pain therapist....It seems to me that you have a root compression....I have seen that you have dad 4 surgical approach.
I think thah the therapy is unbalancet only towards pain an not for the "origin " of pain.
Pain is coming from radicular edema caused by a compression.
If you find an anestesiologist the main tharpy is to injecy in peridural space ( epidural injection) a cortisonic drug.
Max

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2017-03-05 18:24 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>:

[Attachment(s) <x-msg://21/#m_-859003613213994532_TopText> from Alexandre Uster von Baar included below]
Good afternoon Porter,

Thanks for your message.

Here is the copy of the MRI report.
Therefore, like everything else in the Caribbean, how to be sure that the “local” person (in Tortola) did an accurate reading…

The pain medication is definitely too mild, the pain wakes me up at night then can not sleep.
-1 x Diclofenac Sodium 75 mg every 12 hours
-1 x Baclofen 10 mg every 8 hours
-1 x Tramadol hydrocholide 50 mg every 6 hours
-2 x Paracetamol 500 mg every 6 hours

A friend send me information from a medical web site called “up to date” and it seems all the treatments say “evidence of effectiveness are lacking” or “quality of evidence considered low”…

“local” doctors say it will resolved itself within 2 weeks (somehow I doubt)…
Would love to hear your feedback.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 3/5/17, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@gmail.com <mailto:portermcroberts@gmail.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017, 7:07 AM












Alexandre,I'd be happy to
talk to you. Anytime. This is what I do. Up until May
25th! Let
me know if you'd like to chat. Porter
McRoberts
Www.internationalhouseofpain.com <http://www.internationalhouseofpain.com/>

Sent from my iPad
On Mar 5,
2017, at 7:53 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:























Good morning Eric,



Thanks so much for your message.

I actually posted by mistake this on the forum...



I am quite upset with the local doctor, that prescribe too
mild medication, the pain constantly wakes me up at night…


Anyway, I don’t know when I will arrive in St Martin,
being solo and in pain, I have to be more cautious than
usual.

It is possible that I leave on the 11 and arrive on the 12,
but not sure as I could wait for better weather too…



As always thanks so much…

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite@optonline.net>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Saturday, March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM

























Hi Alexandre,

If you get to SXM before the 13th.

I have some stuff in my kit that will help.

I am also VERY friendly with a local pharmacist who

knows everyone on the Dutch side.

Good Luck,

Eric



Eric



----- Original

Message -----

From: "Alexandre

Uster von

Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com> [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back

Problems

To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



Good morning Kent,
I
had a friend who had 3 surgeries and still back pain…

Well Saturday night, had back pain again,
this time it was

intolerable and my
left leg was numb.

In the morning went
to a clinique, the doctor gave an injection

of Voltaren, no effect. Later she gave an
injection of

steroids, no effect.
She sent me to the emergency room who gave
me another injection:

no effect, then
an injection of Morphine, still no effect.

Neither they or I could believe it… They
said they couldn’t

inject anything
else in fear I would overdose.

I saw a
doctor (who was smelling booze 1/2 meter away) who said

he did not want me on medication to see
the full effect in the

morning, then
to have an MRI… so couldn’t sleep all night.

In the morning surprisingly they gave me
medication, the doctor

did not come…
just as I was going to sleep, my neighbor put his

TV loud and was singing rap music…
Administration came and said it was $1170
per day plus

medication, X Ray, etc. I
said this is crazy.

I was supposed to
have the MRI in the afternoon, somehow did not

happened, I was getting pretty upset, my
blood pressure reach

160/100 in the
evening.

Received medication, slept
ok, again delay for the MRI, I told a

nice doctor, I will leave today, as I can’t keep
paying

$1170

per day for waiting, he said I
misunderstood the price, that

this was
for everything, he called administration who came and

said, since I am not a “local”, this
is the price for “Visitors”

(tourist). The doctor was stunned.

Had
MRI, the tech person (unofficially) show me a disc
pointing



out which causes the numb leg and the
pain.

The Hospital wanted me to stay
one more day for the doctor MRI’s

reading, I said NO, we argue for 2 hours, then I was able
to



discharged myself against medical
advice. The nice doctor

prescribe me
medication.

Was presented a bill of
over $4000. I refused to pay the day I

was waiting for the MRI.

On the bill
they even charge $0.50 for the little cup in which

they bring the medication ?!? crazy.
I told them if they had told me the price,
I would have decline

and take a plane
for St martin.

We settle, I left in
pain as the medication was wearing off.

I have a bag of medication that should
help me up to 2 weeks.

I am looking at
the first weather opportunity to go to St

Martin.
Since I am hanging myself (upside down)
from the mast hoping

this will
elongate the spine and easy the problem…

I started to stretch last week (before the
pain in the leg) will

resume as soon
as I feel better.

How is everything
else? Any chance for your eye? How about the

family problems?
Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo.com <mailto:karkauai@yahoo.com>


[amelyachtowners]
wrote:

Subject:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Date:
Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14 AM

Hi Alex. Sorry to
hear about your back

issues. I've
had 4 spine surgeries over the last 40

years. After the last one, I started doing "back

yoga", just gentle stretching and
core strengthening,

no pretzel stuff.
It's been like a miracle for

me.Best of

luck!
KentKristy SM243


























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water hose join to pipe

James Alton
 

Bill,
   
  Thanks for your input on the butyl tape.  I always wondered if it were safe to use on/under plexiglass so good to know.    Can you clean up the dirt that attaches with a solvent?  I am going to start using the butyl tape as a bedding material and see how I like it.  

  I thought that I would mention a caulking that has worked well for me in bedding large plexiglass windows with a lot of movement.  It is the Dow Corning 3145, which is a non corrosive (actually primarily used for electrical work), very elastic and strong  silicone caulking.  If you sand the edge of the plexiglass and apply the plastic primer recommended by Dow(I can get the part # on the primer if anyone needs it) to the bonding surfaces, the adhesion is amazing.  I used this initially on a customers boat that had a lot of flex in the cabin trunk and huge windows that tore the regular marine silicone caulkings apart in 2-3 years with regularity.  The  3145  generally lasted 7-8 years which saved a lot of labour.   It only comes in clear and gray unfortunately and the gray is what you want for long UV exposure.  One downside is that the stuff can take a lot of heat so using a heat gun to warm a fitting for removal is not very effective.  A sharpened putty knife seems to be the best way to go.

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy

  

On Mar 6, 2017, at 1:41 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Where would I not use butyl tape...  that's a good question...


Not for anything permanently under water. Thru-hull fittings and such should have an adhesive sealant. 
Not for sealing things that are routinely exposed to solvents, including diesel and gasoline.

Otherwise, I think pretty much anything goes.  It is compatible with plastics, so it's good for bedding windows and hatches.  When you use it to bed down a plexiglass window if you use enough, and squeeze it out, it is easy to get an attractive seam.

One downside is that since it is non-curing it stays sticky.  That's good on the inside of the joint, but if it is exposed in a wide seam it will attract dirt.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
La Parguera, Puerto Rico

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Bill,

   I have heard good things about the butyl caulking tape.   I have removed quite a bit of hardware that was bedded with it over the years and don’t recall see many problems but I have not used it much myself to date.  Are there any limitations in where you would use this material?  I hadn’t thought about the shelf life aspect, that alone is a good reason to carry at least some aboard.  I have some of the tape  and will put some in the box of parts I am taking to the boat on the next trip over.

   Yes, I can imagine that trying to migrate a solvent into caulking to soften it would be a slow process.  If the fitting is metal that you want to remove, try heating it up to about 200F.  I find that I can usually  remove the fitting using very little stress so no damage the gelcoat/fiberglass.  It is of course preferable to only heat the metal part,  not the gelcoat/fiberglass since heat will soften that as well.

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems [2 Attachments]

Massimo Vecchietti
 

.....I am an anesthesiology  and pain therapist....It seems to me that you have a root compression....I have seen that you have dad   4 surgical approach.
I think thah the therapy is unbalancet only towards pain an not for the "origin " of pain.
Pain is coming from radicular edema caused by a compression.
If you find an anestesiologist the main tharpy is to injecy in peridural space ( epidural injection) a cortisonic drug.
Max

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2017-03-05 18:24 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 
[Attachment(s) from Alexandre Uster von Baar included below]

Good afternoon Porter,

Thanks for your message.

Here is the copy of the MRI report.
Therefore, like everything else in the Caribbean, how to be sure that the “local” person (in Tortola) did an accurate reading…

The pain medication is definitely too mild, the pain wakes me up at night then can not sleep.
-1 x Diclofenac Sodium 75 mg every 12 hours
-1 x Baclofen 10 mg every 8 hours
-1 x Tramadol hydrocholide 50 mg every 6 hours
-2 x Paracetamol 500 mg every 6 hours

A friend send me information from a medical web site called “up to date” and it seems all the treatments say “evidence of effectiveness are lacking” or “quality of evidence considered low”…

“local” doctors say it will resolved itself within 2 weeks (somehow I doubt)…
Would love to hear your feedback.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 3/5/17, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017, 7:07 AM


 









Alexandre,I'd be happy to
talk to you. Anytime. This is what I do. Up until May
25th! Let
me know if you'd like to chat. Porter
McRoberts
Www.internationalhouseofpain.com


On Mar 5,
2017, at 7:53 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Good morning Eric,



Thanks so much for your message.

I actually posted by mistake this on the forum...



I am quite upset with the local doctor, that prescribe too
mild medication, the pain constantly wakes me up at night…


Anyway, I don’t know when I will arrive in St Martin,
being solo and in pain, I have to be more cautious than
usual.

It is possible that I leave on the 11 and arrive on the 12,
but not sure as I could wait for better weather too…



As always thanks so much…

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/4/17, kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, March 4, 2017, 7:29 PM





 



















Hi Alexandre,

If you get to SXM before the 13th.

I have some stuff in my kit that will help.

I am also VERY friendly with a local pharmacist who

knows everyone on the Dutch side.

Good Luck,

Eric

 

Eric



----- Original

Message -----

From: "Alexandre

Uster von

Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"


Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:11 pm

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Back

Problems

To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



> Good morning Kent,

> I

had a friend who had 3 surgeries and still back pain…

> Well Saturday night, had back pain again,

this time it was

> intolerable and my

left leg was numb.

> In the morning went

to a clinique, the doctor gave an injection

> of Voltaren, no effect. Later she gave an

injection of

> steroids, no effect.

> She sent me to the emergency room who gave

me another injection:

> no effect, then

an injection of Morphine, still no effect.

> Neither they or I could believe it… They

said they couldn’t

> inject anything

else in fear I would overdose.

> I saw a

doctor (who was smelling booze 1/2 meter away) who said

> he did not want me on medication to see

the full effect in the

> morning, then

to have an MRI… so couldn’t sleep all night.

> In the morning surprisingly they gave me

medication, the doctor

> did not come…

just as I was going to sleep, my neighbor put his

> TV loud and was singing rap music…

> Administration came and said it was $1170

per day plus

> medication, X Ray, etc. I

said this is crazy.

> I was supposed to

have the MRI in the afternoon, somehow did not

> happened, I was getting pretty upset, my

blood pressure reach

> 160/100 in the

evening.

> Received medication, slept

ok, again delay for the MRI, I told a

>

nice doctor, I will leave today, as I can’t keep
paying

$1170

> per day for waiting, he said I

misunderstood the price, that

> this was

for everything, he called administration who came and

> said, since I am not a “local”, this

is the price for “Visitors”

>

(tourist). The doctor was stunned.

> Had

MRI, the tech person (unofficially) show me a disc
pointing



> out which causes the numb leg and the

pain.

> The Hospital wanted me to stay

one more day for the doctor MRI’s

>

reading, I said NO, we argue for 2 hours, then I was able
to



> discharged myself against medical

advice. The nice doctor

> prescribe me

medication.

> Was presented a bill of

over $4000. I refused to pay the day I

>

was waiting for the MRI.

> On the bill

they even charge $0.50 for the little cup in which

> they bring the medication ?!? crazy.

> I told them if they had told me the price,

I would have decline

> and take a plane

for St martin.

> We settle, I left in

pain as the medication was wearing off.

> I have a bag of medication that should

help me up to 2 weeks.

> I am looking at

the first weather opportunity to go to St

> Martin.

>

> Since I am hanging myself (upside down)

from the mast hoping

> this will

elongate the spine and easy the problem…

> I started to stretch last week (before the

pain in the leg) will

> resume as soon

as I feel better.

> How is everything

else? Any chance for your eye? How about the

> family problems?

>

Alexandre

>

>

>

>

--------------------------------------------

> On Fri, 3/3/17, Kent Robertson

karkauai@...


> [amelyachtowners]

wrote:

>

> Subject:

[Amel Yacht Owners] Back Problems

> To:

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

> Date:

Friday, March 3, 2017, 10:14 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Alex.  Sorry to

hear about your back

> issues.  I've

had 4 spine surgeries over the last 40

>

years.  After the last one, I started doing "back

> yoga", just gentle stretching and

core strengthening,

> no pretzel stuff.

 It's been like a miracle for

>

me.Best of

> luck!

>

KentKristy SM243

>

>



>

>

>

>

>
























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: fresh water hose join to pipe plus bedding compounds etc

Ian Park
 

Craig
Best email this month!
The keel bit had everyone's eyes popping!
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gelcoat repair in St Martin

James Studdart
 

Hi, French or Dutch side doesn't matter much... all the repair folk seem to have a fast dingy. We had a good experience with Custom Fit Marine redoing the hard dodger windows (and matching the colour). You can just call them on the VHF, channel 10 if I remember correctly.

Cheers,
James
SM#344, Dominica, off to Martinique tomorrow...


On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 17:29 Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We are now on Dutch side at island water world.  We did spend 2 nights at Fort Saint Louis but moved to lagoon for services.  

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347


On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:41 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Are  you on the French or Dutch Side.
Eric
Kimberlite
----- Original Message -----
From: "joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:03 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gelcoat repair in St Martin
To: amelyachtowners@...

> Can anyone recommend a good gelcoat repair man in St Martin? We
> are at a marina in the lagoon for several weeks and hope to get
> some work done.
>
>
> Ben and Gayle 
> La Bella Vita
> SM 347
>
>
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gelcoat repair in St Martin

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

We are now on Dutch side at island water world.  We did spend 2 nights at Fort Saint Louis but moved to lagoon for services.  

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:41 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Are  you on the French or Dutch Side.
Eric
Kimberlite
----- Original Message -----
From: "joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:03 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gelcoat repair in St Martin
To: amelyachtowners@...

> Can anyone recommend a good gelcoat repair man in St Martin? We
> are at a marina in the lagoon for several weeks and hope to get
> some work done.
>
>
> Ben and Gayle 
> La Bella Vita
> SM 347
>
>
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe Marinas?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Dan,

If you must go to Guadalupe, Pointe a Pitre Marina at Bas du Fort is your place.

However, there is a reason that Amel moved to Martinique. You will find Martinique very safe and secure as compared to Guadalupe. Although Marina du Marin isn't the best marina in the Caribbean, it offers more value than most. If you are going to stay 10 days or longer, you will find the Marina du Marin's monthly rate cheaper than any other option. Last year it was about 580 euros including electricity (reserve by email to qualify for the monthly rate). Of course, there is the great anchorage of St. Anne outside the marina area.

If you have some flexibility, consider either Martinique, or the possibility of mooring the boat on a mooring at Ile de Saints and your guests taking one of the many ferris from Guadalupe to Ile de Saints.

Bill
X-BeBe

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:24 AM, 'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all, we have friends coming to visit us in Guadelouope later in April and are looking for recommendations for good marinas and other good things to do with guests there.


Please send any reccos to carlsdan61 at gmail dot com.

Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson
sv BeBe, SM 387



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe Marinas?

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

We stayed at Pointe a Pitre Marina - Bas du Fort - just last month.  A lot of activity with charters coming and going.  Many eateries and bars in the marina to choose from and some services.  And price was right.  Can't recommend the town outside the marina but it has reputation for petty crime.  I would definitely recommend the isles de Saints just south of Guadalupe.  Great place to hike and eat seafood.  

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:39 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have stayed in Gualedoupe.
Point a Pitre Marina is good--smells a bit, however it is where Amel used to be.
There is also a marina concierge there if you need anything. Also boat shops in the Marina.
 
Fair winds,
Eric sm 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: "'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Sunday, March 5, 2017 6:28 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe Marinas?
To: "amelyachtowners@..."

> Hi all, we have friends coming to visit us in Guadelouope later
> in April and are looking for recommendations for good marinas
> and other good things to do with guests there.
> Please send any reccos to carlsdan61 at gmail dot com.
>
> Thanks and regards, Dan Carlsonsv BeBe, SM 387
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android