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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

greatketch@...
 

There are several Airmar "Smart sensors" that are paddlewheels that transmitt NMEA1083 data that can be routed to the Hydra-if you are highly attached to it.

Like this:  
www.airmar.com/uploads/brochures/dst800.pdf


Others are also available. Try looking at the Gemeco catalog to see what might work for you

What I did was use the old depth sounder hole to take a new speed sensor, (A CS4500 ultrasonic without moving parts) and installed a P79 in-hull transducer for depth data.  No new holes in the hull, and maintaining functionality.

Bill Kinney
SM #160 Harmonie
Punta Montalva, Puerto Rico


---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote :

Willem,

If you want to keep the B&G Hydra 2000, I think you have two choices:

1.) Drill another hole and install a B&G Paddlewheel sensor. I do not think that you can find a compatible Speed and Depth Sensor that will replace the Depth Sensor and communicate to the B&G Hydra.

2.) Display SOG on the analog B&G cockpit gauges and on the Hydra FFD rather than SOW by installing a NMEA paddlewheel. 

The NMEA Paddlewheel device connects to a data port on the GPS, reads the GPS NMEA sentences and finds SOG. It then translates that SOG into B&G language as SOW. If you are a sailing purest, SOW may be important to you if you must know how much current is impacting your SOG, but remember SOG is what really counts and gets you where you are going. 

This solution may be the best for you. It is simple to install: 2 wires connect to 12VDC at the Hydra toggle switch, 2 wires connect to NMEA data OUT on your GPS and 2 wires connect to the B&G computer at the same place that sonic speed or paddlewheel connect.


NMEA Paddlewheel

NMEA Paddlewheel

The NMEA Paddlewheel converts NMEA from either a GPS or electromagnetic log to a paddlewheel output suitable for connecting directly to an instrument system, such as a B&G Hydra/Hercules.

Retail price £295.00

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

karkauai
 

Got it, thanks again!
Kent

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Mar 8, 2017, at 4:03 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume that you saw the Word file that I uploaded to the files section.

Bill

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Bill!
Kent



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

Here is the link to the Word File:

File : /Crew List Form.doc
Uploaded by : svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
Description : You can use this form for entering new countries, scan and insert passport images and enter specific information

You can access this file at the URL:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Crew%20List%20Form.doc

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:09 PM, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

I would also be interested in this document, to see how you put it together.
Best regards,
Alex Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO
Maramu 1981
alex.paquin at usa.net



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben,

The B&G Sonic Speed sensors are encased in plastic.

Bill 

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Has anyone had any success repairing the sonic sensor?  Seems I recall someone on the forum repaired one...

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Mar 8, 2017, at 5:12 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Willem,

If you want to keep the B&G Hydra 2000, I think you have two choices:

1.) Drill another hole and install a B&G Paddlewheel sensor. I do not think that you can find a compatible Speed and Depth Sensor that will replace the Depth Sensor and communicate to the B&G Hydra.

2.) Display SOG on the analog B&G cockpit gauges and on the Hydra FFD rather than SOW by installing a NMEA paddlewheel. 

The NMEA Paddlewheel device connects to a data port on the GPS, reads the GPS NMEA sentences and finds SOG. It then translates that SOG into B&G language as SOW. If you are a sailing purest, SOW may be important to you if you must know how much current is impacting your SOG, but remember SOG is what really counts and gets you where you are going. 

This solution may be the best for you. It is simple to install: 2 wires connect to 12VDC at the Hydra toggle switch, 2 wires connect to NMEA data OUT on your GPS and 2 wires connect to the B&G computer at the same place that sonic speed or paddlewheel connect.


NMEA Paddlewheel

NMEA Paddlewheel

The NMEA Paddlewheel converts NMEA from either a GPS or electromagnetic log to a paddlewheel output suitable for connecting directly to an instrument system, such as a B&G Hydra/Hercules.

Retail price £295.00

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island


On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi,


I am quite new to this group, but owned from 2002 to 2010 a Santorin sloop (#69). Now I am on my way buying a SM 2K from 2001. Also on this SM (I have seen already quite a few with the same problem) the Sonic Speed sensors are not functioning.

Which options do I have? 

1. Buying a new sensor with paddle wheel that works with the Hydra 2000 system? Which brand and model do I need?

2. Buying a new sensor without moving parts. Which brand and model working with the Hydra 2000 system is recommended?

Willem J. Kroes





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Alejandro Paquin
 

Hello Bill,
I would also be interested in this document, to see how you put it together.
Best regards,
Alex Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO
Maramu 1981
alex.paquin at usa.net


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Has anyone had any success repairing the sonic sensor?  Seems I recall someone on the forum repaired one...

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Mar 8, 2017, at 5:12 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Willem,

If you want to keep the B&G Hydra 2000, I think you have two choices:

1.) Drill another hole and install a B&G Paddlewheel sensor. I do not think that you can find a compatible Speed and Depth Sensor that will replace the Depth Sensor and communicate to the B&G Hydra.

2.) Display SOG on the analog B&G cockpit gauges and on the Hydra FFD rather than SOW by installing a NMEA paddlewheel. 

The NMEA Paddlewheel device connects to a data port on the GPS, reads the GPS NMEA sentences and finds SOG. It then translates that SOG into B&G language as SOW. If you are a sailing purest, SOW may be important to you if you must know how much current is impacting your SOG, but remember SOG is what really counts and gets you where you are going. 

This solution may be the best for you. It is simple to install: 2 wires connect to 12VDC at the Hydra toggle switch, 2 wires connect to NMEA data OUT on your GPS and 2 wires connect to the B&G computer at the same place that sonic speed or paddlewheel connect.


NMEA Paddlewheel

NMEA Paddlewheel

The NMEA Paddlewheel converts NMEA from either a GPS or electromagnetic log to a paddlewheel output suitable for connecting directly to an instrument system, such as a B&G Hydra/Hercules.

Retail price £295.00

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island


On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi,


I am quite new to this group, but owned from 2002 to 2010 a Santorin sloop (#69). Now I am on my way buying a SM 2K from 2001. Also on this SM (I have seen already quite a few with the same problem) the Sonic Speed sensors are not functioning.

Which options do I have? 

1. Buying a new sensor with paddle wheel that works with the Hydra 2000 system? Which brand and model do I need?

2. Buying a new sensor without moving parts. Which brand and model working with the Hydra 2000 system is recommended?

Willem J. Kroes




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

Thanks for sharing this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

 

 

I assume that you saw the Word file that I uploaded to the files section.

 

Bill

 

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks, Bill!

Kent

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Willem,

If you want to keep the B&G Hydra 2000, I think you have two choices:

1.) Drill another hole and install a B&G Paddlewheel sensor. I do not think that you can find a compatible Speed and Depth Sensor that will replace the Depth Sensor and communicate to the B&G Hydra.

2.) Display SOG on the analog B&G cockpit gauges and on the Hydra FFD rather than SOW by installing a NMEA paddlewheel. 

The NMEA Paddlewheel device connects to a data port on the GPS, reads the GPS NMEA sentences and finds SOG. It then translates that SOG into B&G language as SOW. If you are a sailing purest, SOW may be important to you if you must know how much current is impacting your SOG, but remember SOG is what really counts and gets you where you are going. 

This solution may be the best for you. It is simple to install: 2 wires connect to 12VDC at the Hydra toggle switch, 2 wires connect to NMEA data OUT on your GPS and 2 wires connect to the B&G computer at the same place that sonic speed or paddlewheel connect.


NMEA Paddlewheel

NMEA Paddlewheel

The NMEA Paddlewheel converts NMEA from either a GPS or electromagnetic log to a paddlewheel output suitable for connecting directly to an instrument system, such as a B&G Hydra/Hercules.

Retail price £295.00

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe
Galveston Island


On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi,


I am quite new to this group, but owned from 2002 to 2010 a Santorin sloop (#69). Now I am on my way buying a SM 2K from 2001. Also on this SM (I have seen already quite a few with the same problem) the Sonic Speed sensors are not functioning.

Which options do I have? 

1. Buying a new sensor with paddle wheel that works with the Hydra 2000 system? Which brand and model do I need?

2. Buying a new sensor without moving parts. Which brand and model working with the Hydra 2000 system is recommended?

Willem J. Kroes




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I assume that you saw the Word file that I uploaded to the files section.

Bill

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Bill!
Kent



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe Marinas?

Dan Carlson
 


Thanks for all of the reccommendations Eric, Ben and Bill.   Sounds like Bas du Fort in Pointe Pitre, and I like Bills recco of the ferry back from Ile de Saints at the end of the trip.

Thanks all,  Dan 






On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 5:11 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Dan,

If you must go to Guadalupe, Pointe a Pitre Marina at Bas du Fort is your place.

However, there is a reason that Amel moved to Martinique. You will find Martinique very safe and secure as compared to Guadalupe. Although Marina du Marin isn't the best marina in the Caribbean, it offers more value than most. If you are going to stay 10 days or longer, you will find the Marina du Marin's monthly rate cheaper than any other option. Last year it was about 580 euros including electricity (reserve by email to qualify for the monthly rate). Of course, there is the great anchorage of St. Anne outside the marina area.

If you have some flexibility, consider either Martinique, or the possibility of mooring the boat on a mooring at Ile de Saints and your guests taking one of the many ferris from Guadalupe to Ile de Saints.

Bill
X-BeBe

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:24 AM, 'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all, we have friends coming to visit us in Guadelouope later in April and are looking for recommendations for good marinas and other good things to do with guests there.


Please send any reccos to carlsdan61 at gmail dot com.

Thanks and regards, Dan Carlson
sv BeBe, SM 387



Re: Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Willem,

I have the same issue.
I'm going to buy an Airmar Model: CS4500-610 Ultrasonic Sensor and put it in the depth sounder hole and then buy an Airmar P79 in-hull depth sensor for the depth...that way no extra holes in the boat and hopefully a reliable system.
This not my original idea...it came from Bill Kinney..

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
 


Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Willem Kroes
 

Hi,


I am quite new to this group, but owned from 2002 to 2010 a Santorin sloop (#69). Now I am on my way buying a SM 2K from 2001. Also on this SM (I have seen already quite a few with the same problem) the Sonic Speed sensors are not functioning.

Which options do I have? 

1. Buying a new sensor with paddle wheel that works with the Hydra 2000 system? Which brand and model do I need?

2. Buying a new sensor without moving parts. Which brand and model working with the Hydra 2000 system is recommended?

Willem J. Kroes



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

karkauai
 

Thanks, Bill!
Kent


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, 

Our Crew List has information on it that we would not want to publicly share, but I will modify it and place it in the files section.

Bill

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Please, Bill, post it in the files section.  What a great idea!

Kent
Kristy SM243



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin Bonding System

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Liz,

We mat in St. John before we sold our SM, BeBe.

I assume that you are saying that there is no bonding connection to the rudder post and quadrant. Is this correct?

Is the boat out of the water?

Answer the above and I will get back to you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:44 AM, lisallt2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good Afternoon,


I recently acquired an Amel Santorin and, while an electrician was on board checking an electrical leak, noticed that there appears to be a failure in the bonding system.  The steering system does appear to be protected, however the readings on the engine, drive, and through-hulls indicate that they are not protected.  


Does anyone have a diagram or can someone offer a description of how the bonding system is connected throughout the boat?  Is the engine bonding a separate system from the steering/rudder? I tried following the wiring back, but could not track beyond the aft cabin.


Many thanks,


Lisa Tharpe
S/V Azimuth
Hull #143




Re: Santorin Bonding System

Ian Park
 

Lisa
Was the electrician aware that the Santorin has a floating negative? Amel is one of the few brands that does not have the battery negative connected to the engine. I'm not on my boat now, but I think there is a green and yellow grounding wire coming of the top of the C Drive.

The through hulls should be grounded. Did he check the keel and/ or the copper strap going down into the bilge? This can rot through down at the bottom of the bilge and be unseen. It fastens onto a keel bolt in order to keep the keel grounded.

The Santorin is a great boat. Have fun!

Ian. Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Stephen Davis
 

Sail Clear works at least part time in the countries listed on the site. It really depends on whether or not the computer system is up and running that day. I successfully used the system at St Lucia in December 2016. 

Steve
Aloha SM72
Sint Maarten 

On Mar 8, 2017, at 09:40, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We found Noonsite to be good place to start our research.  It is comprehensive and you will find an answer. 


Unfortunately, while it might be "best available", the information on Noonsite can be quite out of date, and is very infrequently updated.  For example, they have the check-in requirements for Puerto Rico quite wrong.  Not disastrously so, but obviously several years behind the real world and not in accordance with current regulations.  Just look at the dates for the posted comments.  There is very little website traffic on Noonsite these days. Official vetted and edited updates of the detailed pages come very infrequently. The PR clearance  information was last updated in 2014, despite well publicized changes to small boat clearance procedures in the meantime. In my opinion, Noonsite is "coasting" on name and reputation, and is getting less useful by the year.

Unfortunately, there is no source I have found to have an update cycle fast enough to recommend as really uniformly  authoritative. Even the e-book cruising guides that claim to have annual updates we have found to be years behind changes on the ground.

We always check as many sources as possible for information, usually, but not always, finding the website for the national government involved to be the most useful with current requirements, if not always the clearest explanations!  Who does the US Customs and Border Patrol get to write the text on their website?  I think they farm it out to the same people who wrote the manual for that last electronic gadget I bought from China...

I see so much information posted on web forums and such that is just plain wrong, or at least presenting a highly exceptional case as a generality, that postings of unknown provenance I tend to deeply discount.

We have found SailClear to be a good idea, that isn't actually used by the local officials.  Are there any countries that people have found it to actually be used as advertised?

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
La Perguera, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Customs and Immigration

Eric Freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gelcoat repair in St Martin

Eric Freedman