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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine Autopilot problem

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Agreed. It is probably the drive unit. It could need rebuilding, or may be binding somehow. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
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On Mar 23, 2017 02:36, "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I could be the linear drive malfunctioning, have had that situation once. Contact Raymarine for help.

Regards
Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998



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22 mars 2017 kl. 22:24 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>:

 

Today our Raymarine Autopilot failed, when in Auto position it returned to stand by with the message current limit. I have meassured the voltage and no problem it was well over 25 volts, we also had the engine running at that time so voltage should be OK, and probably the current as well. All fuses was ok.
We have the course computer S3G and ST 7000 control head. Anyone experienced the same problem? Or known how to fix?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 currently in the BVI


R: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: water separator filter on Santorin

antonio scipioni
 

Hi Craig,
Thank you for your answer, I am thinking to follow your installation, can you send me some pics of your solution?
Thank you a lot.
Antonio
SN 108 vagabundo
Rome
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Mer 22/3/17, sangaris@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

Oggetto: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: water separator filter on Santorin
A: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Data: Mercoledì 22 marzo 2017, 21:45

Hi Antonio, On our
Santorin we kept the original Perkins water/diesel separator
and added the Parker Racor fuel between that and the engine.
That way you do not disturb the line to the Espar heater and
you retain the water-in-fuel electric warning sensor that is
in the original separator, which will light a warning light
on the engine control panel.
That being
said, I see no problem with your installation. The Espar
pump is such a low volume pump that I can't see it
sucking fuel from the engine side, which is totally closed.
And, if it is running when the engine is running it would
still not draw from the engine side.

Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris

---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
<stilemare@...>
wrote :

Hi owners, is
Vagabundo calling.... I want upgrade my old water/gasoline
separator to a new parker system. You can see in the first
and second pics my actual installation: One old decanter
with two IN and two OUT hole; in one of this there is the
eberspacker pump. In the new "racor" instead I
have only one IN and one OUT...so I have to chose where
install the eberspacker suction duct, you can see in the
last pics my solution. I have fear that in my installation
the heater pump could create problem to the engine in the
case If it finish gasoline inside the filter. I upload the
pics on facebook and on the group.

QUESTION: wich is your opinion? Will eberspacker such from
tank ? Or from the filter ?!?

Thanks and Fair wind

Antonio
Amel Santorin 108
"vagabundo"
Roma


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine Autopilot problem

Craig Briggs
 

Paul, Totally agree about checking connections before condemning the autopilot. Include breaker and battery switch. Did you check voltage with autopilot load applied? That is, attach your multimeter to the leads going to the autopilot motor, then turn on the autopilot and initiate a 30 degree or so turn and read the voltage while the autopilot motor is running.
Craig, SN#68 Sangaris
---In amelyachtowners@..., <simms@...> wrote :

Hi Anne Sofie,
go over all the electrical connections to the auto pilot. Separate them and clean before reconnecting. I had expensive technicians suggesting expensive solutions and another cruiser gave me that advice. He was right, they were wrong and we spent an unnecessary two weeks extra in Raiatea, French Polynesia.. Another can be a build up of carbon dust in the linear drive motor. Two easy low cost checks, nothing lost if its wrong.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine Autopilot problem

 
I could be the linear drive malfunctioning, have had that situation once. Contact Raymarine for help.

Regards
Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998



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22 mars 2017 kl. 22:24 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 
Today our Raymarine Autopilot failed, when in Auto position it returned to stand by with the message current limit. I have meassured the voltage and no problem it was well over 25 volts, we also had the engine running at that time so voltage should be OK, and probably the current as well. All fuses was ok.
We have the course computer S3G and ST 7000 control head. Anyone experienced the same problem? Or known how to fix?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 currently in the BVI



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine Autopilot problem

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Anne Sofie,
go over all the electrical connections to the auto pilot. Separate them and clean before reconnecting. I had expensive technicians suggesting expensive solutions and another cruiser gave me that advice. He was right, they were wrong and we spent an unnecessary two weeks extra in Raiatea, French Polynesia.. Another can be a build up of carbon dust in the linear drive motor. Two easy low cost checks, nothing lost if its wrong.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine Autopilot problem

 
I could be the linear drive malfunctioning, have had that situation once. Contact Raymarine for help.

Regards
Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998



Skickat från min iPad

22 mars 2017 kl. 22:24 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 
Today our Raymarine Autopilot failed, when in Auto position it returned to stand by with the message current limit. I have meassured the voltage and no problem it was well over 25 volts, we also had the engine running at that time so voltage should be OK, and probably the current as well. All fuses was ok.
We have the course computer S3G and ST 7000 control head. Anyone experienced the same problem? Or known how to fix?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 currently in the BVI



Re: Raymarine Autopilot problem

Alan Leslie
 

It could be that the gears in the drive have failed...something is putting a lot of load on the drive to cause the over current situation...it is more than likely something to do with the linear drive and / or motor
You will have to dismantle it to find out

Where are you ?

Is it likely there is a Raymarine technician nearby ??

Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine Autopilot problem

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

I could be the linear drive malfunctioning, have had that situation once. Contact Raymarine for help.

Regards
Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998



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22 mars 2017 kl. 22:24 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Today our Raymarine Autopilot failed, when in Auto position it returned to stand by with the message current limit. I have meassured the voltage and no problem it was well over 25 volts, we also had the engine running at that time so voltage should be OK, and probably the current as well. All fuses was ok.
We have the course computer S3G and ST 7000 control head. Anyone experienced the same problem? Or known how to fix?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 currently in the BVI


Raymarine Autopilot problem

Paul Osterberg
 

Today our Raymarine Autopilot failed, when in Auto position it returned to stand by with the message current limit. I have meassured the voltage and no problem it was well over 25 volts, we also had the engine running at that time so voltage should be OK, and probably the current as well. All fuses was ok.
We have the course computer S3G and ST 7000 control head. Anyone experienced the same problem? Or known how to fix?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 currently in the BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Membranes and O rings

yahoogroups@...
 

Leo,

The file is at: 

You can access this file at the URL:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/ groups/amelyachtowners/files/ Miscellaneous/Replacing% 20Dessalator%20160%20liter% 20Membranes%20by%20Gary% 20Silver.pdf
 
I combined Gary Silver's excellent procedures in the Files section with his great photos in the Photos section into this single document

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe


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Re: water separator filter on Santorin

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Antonio,
On our Santorin we kept the original Perkins water/diesel separator and added the Parker Racor fuel between that and the engine. That way you do not disturb the line to the Espar heater and you retain the water-in-fuel electric warning sensor that is in the original separator, which will light a warning light on the engine control panel. 
That being said, I see no problem with your installation. The Espar pump is such a low volume pump that I can't see it sucking fuel from the engine side, which is totally closed. And, if it is running when the engine is running it would still not draw from the engine side.
Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris

---In amelyachtowners@..., <stilemare@...> wrote :

Hi owners, is Vagabundo calling.... I want upgrade my old water/gasoline separator to a new parker system. You can see in the first and second pics my actual installation: One old decanter with two IN and two OUT hole; in one of this there is the eberspacker pump. In the new "racor" instead I have only one IN and one OUT...so I have to chose where install the eberspacker suction duct, you can see in the last pics my solution. I have fear that in my installation the heater pump could create problem to the engine in the case If it finish gasoline inside the filter. I upload the pics on facebook and on the group.
QUESTION: wich is your opinion? Will eberspacker such from tank ? Or from the filter ?!?
Thanks and Fair wind
Antonio
Amel Santorin 108 "vagabundo"
Roma


water separator filter on Santorin

antonio scipioni
 

Hi owners, is Vagabundo calling.... I want upgrade my old water/gasoline separator to a new parker system. You can see in the first and second pics my actual installation: One old decanter with two IN and two OUT hole; in one of this there is the eberspacker pump. In the new "racor" instead I have only one IN and one OUT...so I have to chose where install the eberspacker suction duct, you can see in the last pics my solution. I have fear that in my installation the heater pump could create problem to the engine in the case If it finish gasoline inside the filter. I upload the pics on facebook and on the group.
QUESTION: wich is your opinion? Will eberspacker such from tank ? Or from the filter ?!?
Thanks and Fair wind
Antonio
Amel Santorin 108 "vagabundo"
Roma


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Elector Chain Counter Sensor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Gary,

I know it is not your question, but I replace the sensor using the same IB 5076 (which was onboard) and it works, I have not measure if the number of feet is accurate.

http://nikimat.com/lofrans_tigres_windlass_overhaul.html
It is Part 13.

Wish I could help more…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten



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On Tue, 3/21/17, divanz620@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Elector Chain Counter Sensor
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 9:36 PM


 









Gary,
I
replaced mine with the 5124 and as per Bill's
instructions it works fine.However when I was in
the process of investigating this, the ifmefector folk sent
me 2 documentsOne is a data sheet for the IB5076
and the other is called IB5072 installation instructions
which contains data which is generic for their inductive
sensors (doesn't mention and numbers), including
alternate wiring diagrams for 2 and 3 wire
sensors.Is this useful ? If so, I can send them
to you.
CheersAlanElyse
SM437 









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Re: Elector Chain Counter Sensor

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Gary
the information you posted in 2011


seems to indicate that if you connect the output to either + or - you get NC or NO operation....
In any event we did what Bill suggested and it's been working fine for 4 years now.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Fuel pre filter, auxiliary fuel tanks, Dish washer to refriigerator conversion

Eric Freedman
 

I can do all the above stuff I just don’t know how to add them to the photo site.

They are all up there in a jumbled order—try looking for Kimberlite1212 or kimberlite.

In the yahoo photo section.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: mizzen traveler end stops

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

They still seem to be available at Defender although the link has changed.  


Gary Silver   s/v Liahona   Amel SM 2000   #335
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Elector Chain Counter Sensor

Eric Freedman
 

Gary,

I have the number of the sensor that I use to replace my burned out one . Unfortunately it is on Kimberlite in the Caribe and I am in NY.

If you don’t get the number by April 19. Please send me a note and I will send you the number.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Elector Chain Counter Sensor

 

 

Hi fellow Amel Owners:  

 

I have reviewed the most recent discussions about replacement of the inductive chain counter sensor on the SM windlass.   By the way per the manufacturers specification sheet the MTTF (mean time to failure) is 1076 YEARS,  I don't think so.  At any rate the last time I replaced mine was 8 years ago using the then available IB5076 sensor.  I am aware that the IB5076 originally used by Pochon is no longer in production.  It was a three wire, cable-lead, DC NPN (transistor type), 34 mm diameter by 72 mm length sensor who's output functor is "Normally Closed".    There are several alternatives available:

 

IB5072  which is identical to the original but it is a "Normally Open" output function.

AND

IB5124 which is identical to the original except it is a two wire unit that has terminals rather than a cable for connection (posing a bit of a sealing issue), is listed as "normally open/closed programable"  (whatever that means) and that Bill Rouse of BeBe indicates he has installed leaving the brown wire disconnected and it works.   

 

I suspect that the Pochon display just counts plus and minus pulses and it really doesn't matter if it is normally open or normally closed, but rather just each change in voltage will trigger the counter display.  

 

MY QUESTIONs:   

1.  Has anyone installed the IB5072 inductive sensor (three wire) and can report on if it functioned normally?  I need feedback specifically on the 5072  sensor.

2.  Does anyone have a schematic or wiring diagram for the original three wire hook up as installed by Pochon?   I am curious why they had three wires when it seems the brown wire isn't needed or is tied to the black wire (both being L+) per the Efector diagrams.  

 

As usual we are here trying to reverse engineer this system a bit. 

 

Gary S. Silver    s/v Liahona     Amel SM 2000  #335   Puerto Del Ray Marina, Puerto Rico


Elector Chain Counter Sensor

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi fellow Amel Owners:  


I have reviewed the most recent discussions about replacement of the inductive chain counter sensor on the SM windlass.   By the way per the manufacturers specification sheet the MTTF (mean time to failure) is 1076 YEARS,  I don't think so.  At any rate the last time I replaced mine was 8 years ago using the then available IB5076 sensor.  I am aware that the IB5076 originally used by Pochon is no longer in production.  It was a three wire, cable-lead, DC NPN (transistor type), 34 mm diameter by 72 mm length sensor who's output functor is "Normally Closed".    There are several alternatives available:


IB5072  which is identical to the original but it is a "Normally Open" output function.

AND

IB5124 which is identical to the original except it is a two wire unit that has terminals rather than a cable for connection (posing a bit of a sealing issue), is listed as "normally open/closed programable"  (whatever that means) and that Bill Rouse of BeBe indicates he has installed leaving the brown wire disconnected and it works.   


I suspect that the Pochon display just counts plus and minus pulses and it really doesn't matter if it is normally open or normally closed, but rather just each change in voltage will trigger the counter display.  


MY QUESTIONs:   

1.  Has anyone installed the IB5072 inductive sensor (three wire) and can report on if it functioned normally?  I need feedback specifically on the 5072  sensor.

2.  Does anyone have a schematic or wiring diagram for the original three wire hook up as installed by Pochon?   I am curious why they had three wires when it seems the brown wire isn't needed or is tied to the black wire (both being L+) per the Efector diagrams.  


As usual we are here trying to reverse engineer this system a bit. 


Gary S. Silver    s/v Liahona     Amel SM 2000  #335   Puerto Del Ray Marina, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Brush size for Leroy Somer main sail furler motor

Hajo Hille
 

 
 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. März 2017 um 16:37 Uhr
Von: "'Hajo Hille' amw08@... [amelyachtowners]"
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Aw: [Amel Yacht Owners] Brush size for Leroy Somer main sail furler motor
 

 

Hi Mark,
I just ordered the brushes for my Leroy Somers furling motor ( SM 150).
Maybe it´s the same size. I found a shop in Germany and bought four of them for 58,52 EUR.
The shop is:     J. Mack GmbH & Co. KG
                        Gießener Str. 49
                        D-35305 Grünberg
Contact:          info “at” mack-kohlebuersten.de
Phone:             0049 – ( 0) 6401 210 6090                Fax:     0049 – ( 0 ) 6401 4910
 
The size of the brushes I bought is 16 mm x 6 mm x 22 mm.
There is a website under www.mack-kohlebuersten.de where they offer all sizes of brushes.
 
Maybe I can order the brushes for you and bring it to Carloforte end of April.
But you have to send me an e-mail, soon, because ordering the brushes needs about 2 – 3 weeks.
 
Hope this helps, see you soon
 
Hajo
SM 150 Serafine
 
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. März 2017 um 17:27 Uhr
Von: "Mark Pitt mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners]"
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Betreff: [Amel Yacht Owners] Brush size for Leroy Somer main sail furler motor
 

Hi all,

I have ordered some brushes for my main furler and outhaul motors by giving Maud the motor model numbers. However, she says she need to know the size of the brushes. Can someone help as I am far from my boat?

My Leroy Somer motor is type "MBT86 M". The boat is Super Maramu hull #419 built in October 2003.

Thanks.

Mark Pitt
SY Sabbatical III

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rain shield for galley port

bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Thanks Ian

On Mar 21, 2017, at 12:47 AM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The Santorin galley port is the same size as the SM. It may be no use for you but perhaps someone else - I had a mould made for one in Trinidad at Peakes boatyard, a fibreglass chap in a shed at the back of the yard. He still has the mould. I know Amel no longer have them or a mould.
Maybe a local fibreglass place could also make a mould. I paid for two (one for the aft heads & galley) and told him to hang on to the mould and check every Amel that arrived! I should have bought the mould off him too!

Ian 
Ocean Hobo
SN96


Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel

Rink De Haan
 

Hello all,

I just ordered a couple of lights from Amel.


Maud send me this info:
Please find here attached a photo of the green and red light indicators.

The price is 5.90 euros/unit without taxes and without transport. The dedicated 24V 1 W light bulbs are also available. They are supplied in bags of 10 (17.20 euros without taxes and without transport.
I am very sorry but the light for the gas is not available from us anymore.

See photo attached. If these are the same lights they are not expensive.

Regards,
Rink
SM2K #330 Razor's Edge