Re: R: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: water separator filter on Santorin
Antonio,
I have posted 2 pictures of my fuel line setup. It would seem you do not need the "T" off your Racor at all. Just keep your original water separator as is and simply insert the Racor in the feed line to the engine. By the way, you can see I have an extra line to feed my generator - there is no issue with fuel going both directions. Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris ---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote : I'd be happy to, Antonio, and can do so next week after I go to the boat. I'll post them on this site. Craig SN68 Sangaris ---In amelyachtowners@..., <stilemare@...> wrote : Hi Craig, Thank you for your answer, I am thinking to follow your installation, can you send me some pics of your solution? Thank you a lot. Antonio SN 108 vagabundo Rome -------------------------------------------- Mer 22/3/17, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto: Oggetto: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: water separator filter on Santorin A: amelyachtowners@... Data: Mercoledì 22 marzo 2017, 21:45 Hi Antonio, On our Santorin we kept the original Perkins water/diesel separator and added the Parker Racor fuel between that and the engine. That way you do not disturb the line to the Espar heater and you retain the water-in-fuel electric warning sensor that is in the original separator, which will light a warning light on the engine control panel. That being said, I see no problem with your installation. The Espar pump is such a low volume pump that I can't see it sucking fuel from the engine side, which is totally closed. And, if it is running when the engine is running it would still not draw from the engine side. Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris ---In amelyachtowners@..., <stilemare@...> wrote : Hi owners, is Vagabundo calling.... I want upgrade my old water/gasoline separator to a new parker system. You can see in the first and second pics my actual installation: One old decanter with two IN and two OUT hole; in one of this there is the eberspacker pump. In the new "racor" instead I have only one IN and one OUT...so I have to chose where install the eberspacker suction duct, you can see in the last pics my solution. I have fear that in my installation the heater pump could create problem to the engine in the case If it finish gasoline inside the filter. I upload the pics on facebook and on the group. QUESTION: wich is your opinion? Will eberspacker such from tank ? Or from the filter ?!? Thanks and Fair wind Antonio Amel Santorin 108 "vagabundo" Roma
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Smoking Gun...
John Clark
Hi Porter,
I always thought black smoke was indicative of an injector issue, ie too much fuel being dumped into the cylinders, not a "lower end" issue that a long block change out would address. Since you are buying a boat for world cruising, you should definitely have the issue resolved before completing the purchase. You don't want to deal with this in Fiji! New engine for a 54 runs what about $20-30K? If the owner will come off the price go ahead and get a new engine. You may even be able to sell the old one to reduce the expense. Regarding the "mechanics," they should be able to give you a definitive explanation for the issue before suggesting a new engine. That smells fishy to me. If the boat is reliable in the short term, ie can get you back to Lauderdale then maybe it would be good to get her someplace with better "mechanics" or even see if Joel will take a peek at it. I'm sure Joel can recommend some high quality honest mechanics to look at her. Good luck, keep on plugging away at it! Regards, John John Clark Vent de Soleil SM37 Great Bay, Sint Martin
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Smoking Gun...
W Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
Gentlemen (and any ladies),
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Once again I need your sage advice. The situation exists as follows: I’ve found what appears to be a great boat, for what I think a reasonable price with a quite reasonable owner. 2010 54 hull 152. The survey with Dave Huffman confirms an excellent boat free of any serious concerns save a smoking engine. And here in lies the friction: The engine black stacks the water under a load. Black smoke out the exhaust with carbon on the water when increasing load. Start-up is good. Acceleration is good. Engine goes to 2700rpm and quickly. Engine serviced very regularly without issue. Volvo Martinique ( and multiple trips to the engine room with multiple mechanics) agrees there is an issue and have suggested either a new engine or a long-block change out, but has not offered an actual diagnosis as they agree the symptoms are present but that can’t find the disease. Prop is reasonably clean. I am told by the broker that the prop is too large and this is likely the issue. I am told by the owner (who he himself has a good working knowledge of diesels) this is normal for a diesel and there is nothing really wrong. I am told by Nigel Calder in no uncertain terms: a common rail diesel such as the D3-110 should never smoke and is indicative of a serious issue. The turbo is clean per Volvo. And the owner confirms regular open throttle to clean out the turbo. I have already in place (3 weeks) plans to bring the boat back to the US and flag delineation etc has begun, some funds already transferred. Option one: Accept the boat as is. Option two: reject the boat and do not complete the deal, Pay crew for all cancelled airlines etc. Option three: work towards a half way circumstance where owner and buyer share the financial burden of fix/replace. Option four: your great ideas! I very much appreciate your consideration!! Porter McRoberts
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel
I bought one on Amazon . Slightly larger than original. $6.00 Sold by: SUNS International, LLC Ben Driver S/V La Bella Vita SM #347
On Mar 29, 2017, at 7:30 PM, capt.anderson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel
greatketch@...
No need for surgery of the existing lamp. These are industry standard panel indicator lamps to fit a 12mm hole. They are easily available in a wide range of voltages and colors (if green shouldn't be to your taste!)
You can buy them from Amazon for US$7 in any color you might like. For example Amazon item number B01N7XVWTT As you browse for these, the key specifications are they have to fit a 12mm hole, and run on 220V. Be a bit careful, there are similar lamps with a 12mm face diameter that fit a 9mm hole! Important Note: that 12mm hole spec is from my boat's panel. Double check yours to see it it is the same. I am sure there are suppliers could get them even cheaper. It is always useful to remember that Amel didn't have things like this custom made, that would have been extraordinarily expensive--to no benefit. They bought things that were easily available to them at the time. It's always a good idea to search industrial supply chains for these kinds of routine parts, most are still easily available with a bit of google work--once you know what to ask for! Bill Kinney SM#160 Harmonie Ponce PR
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel
eric freedman
I cut the light socket open with a very fine blade ( a jewelers saw). I then removed the led and the resistor. I put 2 new LED’s in parallel for more light and soldered the resistor back in place. I glued the socket back together with model cement. It has been working fine for about 4 or 5 years. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:30 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel
For the 220V panel, does anyone have a source for the green "AC Power Available" light? Maud says Amel doesn't have them anymore.
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Re: Tiny lights on 24V panel
Jim Anderson
For the 220V panel, does anyone have a source for the green "AC Power Available" light? Maud says Amel doesn't have them anymore.
The best solution, a Blue Sea AC Amp/Volt meter ala Bill R/Bebe, is not in the budget for me right now. Best Jim SM384 Sirena Azul Seattle
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Re: Online access to Amel manuals
Jacob Champness
+1 That would be sweet!
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1986 Maramu replacing cutlass bearing
Jacob Champness
Hi all. So it's looking pretty good for us to finally become real Amel owners. The 1986 Maramu we're looking at needs the cutlass bearing replaced. This is not a job I've undertaken before. There are plenty of resources about it online, but I wondered if there's anything particular about doing the job on a Maramu that I should be aware of? Thanks for any advice! Jacob
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement
greatketch@...
Gary,
My engineering opinion is that going with the 3/8 thickness will be just fine. It's 96% of the thickness of the original, and it is not like 3/8" material was available in France and rejected because it was too weak... It is unlikely that the darker color will significantly affect the crazing that occurs with long term UV exposure, since that is predominantly a surface effect. I am not a fan of the tinted windows, but that is really just my own esthetic, not an engineering judgement. Choice of material for this application is always a trade-off. Lexan (and similar brands) are stronger to impast failure, but shorter lived in UV exposure without custom coating. Here is a good summary: I am not sure what the original material was on the windscreen. The panels on my boat were replaced with 3/8" clear plexiglass by the previous owner. Bill Kinney SM#160 Harmonie Ponce, PR
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement
Hi Gary, I replaced my windows in St Martin last year with a tinted acrylic and they are much better than clear on a sunny day and nite time vision is not an issue. However, after requesting 10mm they instead installed 9mm (.354) and it is too thin. It decreases the weight of the panes causing an open port windshield too flutter in a strong wind. I would recommend staying closer to 10mm. I will replace my windshield again in Martinique this summer with 10mm. Ben Ben and Gayle La Bella Vita SM #347 6S
On Mar 28, 2017, at 6:40 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Gary, We used 10mm Plexiglass brand because it supposedly scratches less. We picked a gray tint. We tried to pick a tint darkness about the same as a 54 or 55. Yes, visibility is slightly changed, but it was not an issue for us and far outweighs the advantages in full sun...And you can always open the helm side. We also had sunbrella sunscreens made for the front, that allows opening the port side. We also cut new lock-downs for the port side. With the groove for the D gasket, the notching, and beveling required for the port side, you may want to consider a pro. Our total installed costs for 4 pieces plus the latches was about 900 euro, however I was told the guy increased the price about 200 the next time. I am not sure which sealant was used. When you remove the sides and the starboard front, you will see that about 1" is painted. This is important to get the right look. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Galveston Island Sent using Google Fi +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 28, 2017 00:10, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: Online access to Amel manuals
A Dropbox link would be very helpful. Thank you!
---In amelyachtowners@..., <dave_benjamin@...> wrote : For some time we've kept some Amel manuals on the Island Planet Sails website for people to download. I think what's happening is some people aren't actually downloading the manual but opening the page every time they want to reference it. We're happy to keep these resources available, but just ask that people either download it or ask us to email a copy. Our web host is about to raise the rates due to the volume of downloads. I can email a Dropbox link as well that might be easier to use than the PDF on the website.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Bill and all:
I am preparing to replace my dodger windows due to crazing. I measured the existing plexiglass (aka acrylic, perspex) and it is 10 mm thick (equivalent to 0.3937 inches thick. The closest available here on the western side of the Atlantic is 3/8 ths inch thick = 0.375 inches thick. Difference of almost 19 thousandths of an inch. I don't have much choice but it worries me a bit that structurally it isn't as strong as the original. Any thoughts? Bill, as you used something other than clear plexiglass did you find that detrimental to visibility at night? I have seen a few boats with the smoked plexiglass and they do look cool and I suspect are less susceptible to crazing. What are folks thoughts on that? What sealant have folks used? I am seeing the Dow Corning 795 is recommended by many. Thoughts on this? Thanks for the thoughts on using gel coat to mask the edges of the plexiglass where sealant interfaces. Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences. Gary S. Silver Amel Super Maramu 2000 Hull # 335 - Currently Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico
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Online access to Amel manuals
Dave_Benjamin
For some time we've kept some Amel manuals on the Island Planet Sails website for people to download. I think what's happening is some people aren't actually downloading the manual but opening the page every time they want to reference it. We're happy to keep these resources available, but just ask that people either download it or ask us to email a copy. Our web host is about to raise the rates due to the volume of downloads. I can email a Dropbox link as well that might be easier to use than the PDF on the website.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...
Stephen Davis
Hi Pat, I forgot to mention that rig rite seems to think this stuff is made of gold. Budget Marine in the Caribbean and Caribe Marine in Martinique have Goiot gaskets and parts for a lot less money if you are headed this way next season Steve Davis Aloha SM72 St Maarten
On Mar 27, 2017, at 09:28, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turkey Qsails
Mark Pitt
I second this view of Qsails. I received my sails last spring and they were of excellent quality. I would certainly buy from them again. Mark Pitt Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy
On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:18 AM, danielmfrey63@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...
Patrick McAneny
Just checked with Rig Rite , prices seem a bit crazy, gasket $8 /ft. , hold open mushroom knobs $29. each , set of 4 plastic washers per hatch to provide friction to hold open hatches $35 per set of 4 . I will try to source gasket materials elsewhere and rotate my mushroom knobs.
Pat SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:25 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders... They were not made by Goiot. I ordered 12 of them from Amel about 4 years ago.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Galveston Island Sent using Google Fi +1(832) 380-4970 On Mar 25, 2017 19:45, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...
Stephen Davis
Bill, I purchased mine from the USA Goiot distributor, and they have a Goiot part number. It seems to me, they are made by Goiot, and you stated they were not made by Goiot. At any rate, my only point is that they are available from Goiot should any Amel owner need some. Hope all is going well with you and Judy. Steve
On Mar 26, 2017, at 22:20, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Goiot Ports Parts
rossirossix4
Steve, thanks for the link. It looks like they carry the screen inserts (Maud told me Amel didn't have them--1+ year ago) So are the ports on our SMs Traditional Ports # 34.14 (Lens size) 339x135mm ? This would make the mosquito insert Goi 105721 http://www.rigrite.com/Hardware/Hatch_&_Port/Goiot_Port_Parts.php#Tradition%20Port%20Parts
Bob, KAIMI SM 429
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