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Re: Online access to Amel manuals

Jacob Champness
 

+1  That would be sweet!


1986 Maramu replacing cutlass bearing

Jacob Champness
 

Hi all.  


So it's looking pretty good for us to finally become real Amel owners.  The 1986 Maramu we're looking at needs the cutlass bearing replaced.  This is not a job I've undertaken before.  There are plenty of resources about it online, but I wondered if there's anything particular about doing the job on a Maramu that I should be aware of?  


Thanks for any advice!


Jacob


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement

greatketch@...
 

Gary,

My engineering opinion is that going with the 3/8 thickness will be just fine.  It's 96% of the thickness of the original, and it is not like 3/8" material was available in France and rejected because it was too weak...

It is unlikely that the darker color will significantly affect the crazing that occurs with long term UV exposure, since that is predominantly a surface effect.  I am not a fan of the tinted windows, but that is really just my own esthetic, not an engineering judgement.

Choice of material for this application is always a trade-off.  Lexan (and similar brands) are stronger to impast failure, but shorter lived in UV exposure without custom coating. Here is a good summary:

I am not sure what the original material was on the windscreen. The panels on my boat were replaced with 3/8" clear plexiglass by the previous owner.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Ponce, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Hi Gary,
I replaced my windows in St Martin last year with a tinted acrylic and they are much better than clear on a sunny day and nite time vision is not an issue.  However, after requesting 10mm they instead installed 9mm (.354) and it is too thin. It decreases the weight of the panes causing an open port windshield too flutter in a strong wind.  I would recommend staying closer to 10mm.  I will replace my windshield again in Martinique this summer with 10mm.
Ben

Ben and Gayle 
La Bella Vita
SM #347
6S


On Mar 28, 2017, at 6:40 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Gary,

We used 10mm Plexiglass brand because it supposedly scratches less. We picked a gray tint. We tried to pick a tint darkness about the same as a 54 or 55. Yes, visibility is slightly changed, but it was not an issue for us and far outweighs the advantages in full sun...And you can always open the helm side. We also had sunbrella sunscreens made for the front, that allows opening the port side. We also cut new lock-downs for the port side. With the groove for the D gasket, the notching, and beveling required for the port side, you may want to consider a pro. Our total installed costs for 4 pieces plus the latches was about 900 euro, however I was told the guy increased the price about 200 the next time. 

I am not sure which sealant was used. When you remove the sides and the starboard front, you will see that about 1" is painted. This is important to get the right look. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
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On Mar 28, 2017 00:10, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill and all: 


I am preparing to replace my dodger windows due to crazing.  I measured the existing plexiglass (aka acrylic, perspex) and it is 10 mm thick (equivalent to 0.3937 inches thick.  The closest available here on the western side of the Atlantic is 3/8 ths inch thick = 0.375 inches thick.  Difference of almost 19 thousandths of an inch.  I don't have much choice but it worries me a bit that structurally it isn't as strong as the original.  Any thoughts?

Bill, as you used something other than clear plexiglass did you find that detrimental to visibility at night?  I have seen a few boats with the smoked plexiglass and they do look cool and I suspect are less susceptible to crazing.  What are folks thoughts on that?

What sealant have folks used?  I am seeing the Dow Corning 795 is recommended by many.  Thoughts on this?

Thanks for the thoughts on using gel coat to mask the edges of the plexiglass where sealant  interfaces.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences. 

Gary S. Silver    Amel Super Maramu 2000   Hull # 335  - Currently Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

We used 10mm Plexiglass brand because it supposedly scratches less. We picked a gray tint. We tried to pick a tint darkness about the same as a 54 or 55. Yes, visibility is slightly changed, but it was not an issue for us and far outweighs the advantages in full sun...And you can always open the helm side. We also had sunbrella sunscreens made for the front, that allows opening the port side. We also cut new lock-downs for the port side. With the groove for the D gasket, the notching, and beveling required for the port side, you may want to consider a pro. Our total installed costs for 4 pieces plus the latches was about 900 euro, however I was told the guy increased the price about 200 the next time. 

I am not sure which sealant was used. When you remove the sides and the starboard front, you will see that about 1" is painted. This is important to get the right look. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Mar 28, 2017 00:10, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill and all: 


I am preparing to replace my dodger windows due to crazing.  I measured the existing plexiglass (aka acrylic, perspex) and it is 10 mm thick (equivalent to 0.3937 inches thick.  The closest available here on the western side of the Atlantic is 3/8 ths inch thick = 0.375 inches thick.  Difference of almost 19 thousandths of an inch.  I don't have much choice but it worries me a bit that structurally it isn't as strong as the original.  Any thoughts?

Bill, as you used something other than clear plexiglass did you find that detrimental to visibility at night?  I have seen a few boats with the smoked plexiglass and they do look cool and I suspect are less susceptible to crazing.  What are folks thoughts on that?

What sealant have folks used?  I am seeing the Dow Corning 795 is recommended by many.  Thoughts on this?

Thanks for the thoughts on using gel coat to mask the edges of the plexiglass where sealant  interfaces.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences. 

Gary S. Silver    Amel Super Maramu 2000   Hull # 335  - Currently Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico



Re: Online access to Amel manuals

JUSTIN OLDHAM
 

A Dropbox link would be very helpful.  Thank you!


---In amelyachtowners@..., <dave_benjamin@...> wrote :

For some time we've kept some Amel manuals on the Island Planet Sails website for people to download. I think what's happening is some people aren't actually downloading the manual but opening the page every time they want to reference it. We're happy to keep these resources available, but just ask that people either download it or ask us to email a copy. Our web host is about to raise the rates due to the volume of downloads.


I can email a Dropbox link as well that might be easier to use than the PDF on the website. 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Dodger window replacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill and all: 

I am preparing to replace my dodger windows due to crazing.  I measured the existing plexiglass (aka acrylic, perspex) and it is 10 mm thick (equivalent to 0.3937 inches thick.  The closest available here on the western side of the Atlantic is 3/8 ths inch thick = 0.375 inches thick.  Difference of almost 19 thousandths of an inch.  I don't have much choice but it worries me a bit that structurally it isn't as strong as the original.  Any thoughts?

Bill, as you used something other than clear plexiglass did you find that detrimental to visibility at night?  I have seen a few boats with the smoked plexiglass and they do look cool and I suspect are less susceptible to crazing.  What are folks thoughts on that?

What sealant have folks used?  I am seeing the Dow Corning 795 is recommended by many.  Thoughts on this?

Thanks for the thoughts on using gel coat to mask the edges of the plexiglass where sealant  interfaces.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences. 

Gary S. Silver    Amel Super Maramu 2000   Hull # 335  - Currently Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico


Online access to Amel manuals

Dave_Benjamin
 

For some time we've kept some Amel manuals on the Island Planet Sails website for people to download. I think what's happening is some people aren't actually downloading the manual but opening the page every time they want to reference it. We're happy to keep these resources available, but just ask that people either download it or ask us to email a copy. Our web host is about to raise the rates due to the volume of downloads.


I can email a Dropbox link as well that might be easier to use than the PDF on the website. 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Pat,

I forgot to mention that rig rite seems to think this stuff is made of gold. Budget Marine in the Caribbean and Caribe Marine in Martinique have Goiot gaskets and parts for a lot less money if you are headed this way next season

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
St Maarten 

On Mar 27, 2017, at 09:28, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just checked with Rig Rite , prices seem a bit crazy, gasket $8 /ft. , hold open mushroom knobs $29. each , set of 4 plastic washers per hatch  to provide friction to hold open hatches $35 per set of 4 . I will try to source gasket materials elsewhere and rotate my mushroom knobs.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

 
They were not made by Goiot. I ordered 12 of them from Amel about 4 years ago. 

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Mar 25, 2017 19:45, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
On older SM's the portlights and some of the cabin doors were held open with black rubber "mushrooms".  After 20 years ours are starting to degrade.  I have never seen them available from Goiot (the original manufacturer) and Maude says Amel has none left in stock.

Anybody else already solve this problem and care to share?  I have a couple ideas of varying degrees of elegance but haven't finalized my thoughts yet...

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Ponce, PR
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turkey Qsails

Mark Pitt
 

I second this view of Qsails.  I received my sails last spring and they were of excellent quality.  I would certainly buy from them again.

  Mark Pitt
  Sabbatical III, ASM #419, Carloforte, Italy


On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:18 AM, danielmfrey63@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James

my boat (SN 64) is based in Turkey / Kuşadası (west coast of Turkey). I am there almost each month. No problems with terrorism in this area - yet.

I ordered new sails for my boat at Q-sails and I was impressed by the quality of their work. I can recommend the company without hesitation and would buy my sails there again.

Best - Daniel

SY HEUREKA
SN 64 / 1992
Kuşadası / Turkey


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Patrick McAneny
 

Just checked with Rig Rite , prices seem a bit crazy, gasket $8 /ft. , hold open mushroom knobs $29. each , set of 4 plastic washers per hatch  to provide friction to hold open hatches $35 per set of 4 . I will try to source gasket materials elsewhere and rotate my mushroom knobs.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

 
They were not made by Goiot. I ordered 12 of them from Amel about 4 years ago. 

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Mar 25, 2017 19:45, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
On older SM's the portlights and some of the cabin doors were held open with black rubber "mushrooms".  After 20 years ours are starting to degrade.  I have never seen them available from Goiot (the original manufacturer) and Maude says Amel has none left in stock.

Anybody else already solve this problem and care to share?  I have a couple ideas of varying degrees of elegance but haven't finalized my thoughts yet...

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Ponce, PR
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Stephen Davis
 

Bill,

I purchased mine from the USA Goiot distributor, and they have a Goiot part number. It seems to me, they are made by Goiot, and you stated they were not made by Goiot. 

At any rate, my only point is that they are available from Goiot should any Amel owner need some. Hope all is going well with you and Judy. 

Steve

On Mar 26, 2017, at 22:20, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Why am I wrong Steve?

I said that I bought some from Amel...AND, I bought some from Amel some years ago when I was placing a routine order for wear bushing parts. I think I bought 12 of them from Amel for about 5 euro. 

I also said the Goiot did not make them. Before I ordered them from Amel I sent a photo to the USA distributor of Goiot. They told me that they did not make them. 

I think that I am wrong and/or mistaken at times, but I cannot understand how I am wrong with what I said in this thread. 

Am I right?

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Mar 26, 2017 19:57, "Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Bill R is not wrong very often, but he is wrong about this. This is from the Rig Rite web page, and again, I purchased some of these recently from them:

Rubber Hold-open Knob w/ washer: Goi PT-KR:
Rubber Hold-open Knob is mounted on Cabin wall or ceiling and used to hold Ports open. Unit is 38mm OD x 20mm high and is mounted with (1) 5mm screw. Rubber base washer (34mm OD) is included. Used with Round and Larger Goiot Tradition Ports.  

 http://www.rigrite.com/Hardware/Hatch_&_Port/Goiot_Port_Parts.php#Tradition%20Port%20Parts


Steve Davis

Aloha SM72


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:18 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Any idea who did make them?  Since La Rochelle doesn't have them anymore...




Goiot Ports Parts

rossirossix4
 

Steve, thanks for the link.  It looks like they carry the screen inserts (Maud told me Amel didn't have them--1+ year ago)  So are the ports on our SMs  Traditional Ports # 34.14 (Lens size) 339x135mm ?  This would make the mosquito insert  Goi 105721    http://www.rigrite.com/Hardware/Hatch_&_Port/Goiot_Port_Parts.php#Tradition%20Port%20Parts

Bob, KAIMI SM 429


Re: Port and Door Holders...

greatketch@...
 

Bill R.,

I think what Steve was saying was that they are being sold by Goiot's USA distributor--with their version of a Goiot part number.  The implication is that they ARE a Goiot made part and you had been given incorrect information about Goiot not making them.

Who actually makes them really isn't important... there is a current source for the piece now that Amel no longer stocks them in La Rochelle.  It actually matters not who manufactures them.

Bill Kinney
SM #160 Harmonie,
Ponce, PR



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Why am I wrong Steve?

I said that I bought some from Amel...AND, I bought some from Amel some years ago when I was placing a routine order for wear bushing parts. I think I bought 12 of them from Amel for about 5 euro. 

I also said the Goiot did not make them. Before I ordered them from Amel I sent a photo to the USA distributor of Goiot. They told me that they did not make them. 

I think that I am wrong and/or mistaken at times, but I cannot understand how I am wrong with what I said in this thread. 

Am I right?

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Mar 26, 2017 19:57, "Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Bill R is not wrong very often, but he is wrong about this. This is from the Rig Rite web page, and again, I purchased some of these recently from them:

Rubber Hold-open Knob w/ washer: Goi PT-KR:
Rubber Hold-open Knob is mounted on Cabin wall or ceiling and used to hold Ports open. Unit is 38mm OD x 20mm high and is mounted with (1) 5mm screw. Rubber base washer (34mm OD) is included. Used with Round and Larger Goiot Tradition Ports.  

 http://www.rigrite.com/Hardware/Hatch_&_Port/Goiot_Port_Parts.php#Tradition%20Port%20Parts


Steve Davis

Aloha SM72


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:18 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Any idea who did make them?  Since La Rochelle doesn't have them anymore...




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Stephen Davis
 

Bill R is not wrong very often, but he is wrong about this. This is from the Rig Rite web page, and again, I purchased some of these recently from them:

Rubber Hold-open Knob w/ washer: Goi PT-KR:
Rubber Hold-open Knob is mounted on Cabin wall or ceiling and used to hold Ports open. Unit is 38mm OD x 20mm high and is mounted with (1) 5mm screw. Rubber base washer (34mm OD) is included. Used with Round and Larger Goiot Tradition Ports.  

 http://www.rigrite.com/Hardware/Hatch_&_Port/Goiot_Port_Parts.php#Tradition%20Port%20Parts


Steve Davis

Aloha SM72


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:18 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Any idea who did make them?  Since La Rochelle doesn't have them anymore...



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

greatketch@...
 

Any idea who did make them?  Since La Rochelle doesn't have them anymore...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

They were not made by Goiot. I ordered 12 of them from Amel about 4 years ago. 

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Mar 25, 2017 19:45, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On older SM's the portlights and some of the cabin doors were held open with black rubber "mushrooms".  After 20 years ours are starting to degrade.  I have never seen them available from Goiot (the original manufacturer) and Maude says Amel has none left in stock.


Anybody else already solve this problem and care to share?  I have a couple ideas of varying degrees of elegance but haven't finalized my thoughts yet...


Bill Kinney

SM#160 Harmonie

Ponce, PR

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

greatketch@...
 

Thanks everybody for all the suggestions...  I had looked at the website part listings for both RigRite and Budget, and didn't find what I was looking for, but it certainly sounds like it's worth a call or visit to go through the "miscellaneous old parts bin."

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Ponce, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Port and Door Holders...

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gang,

My hull is #007 and my rubber “doickies” were not working.  I found magnetic door retainers and installed them on all doors.

The only small flaw is that the forward water tight door does not tolerate heavy seas and releases; the solution is to close the door before setting off.


Fair winds,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007


On 26 Mar 2017, at 07:09, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I'll check Budget Marine here in Sint Maarten on Monday, and let you know if they have them in stock. Budget stocks a lot of Goiot parts and most of the gaskets for ports and hatches. If not, I purchased several from the US Goiot distributor Rig Rite just a few months ago, and they should still be available from them. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Sint Maarten

On Mar 25, 2017, at 21:46, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Bill,


I think all the SMs have them. Ours is 2004 and we have them.
If you find an elegant solution for replacement it would be handy to have on file for the future
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



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