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Re: 1986 Maramu replacing cutlass bearing

Dave_Benjamin
 

We used an off the shelf Morse bearing and had it machined to fit the aperture. I'd suggest having two machined so you have a replacement onhand in the event you need to change it out again and you're in some third world place without a machine shop available. I seem to recall it was a Silverfish model bearing but certainly don't rely on my memory from 8 or 9 years ago. 
Deep freeze the bearing prior to install. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Smoking Gun...

W Porter McRoberts <portermcroberts@...>
 

Bill

Included below is a video showing the smoke as well as the belly of the beast and the prop itself.I include the video so you can asses as well.
I really appreciate your thoughts!


Porter





On Mar 30, 2017, at 1:37 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Porter,

I am really very surprised that Dave Huffman, the broker, the Volvo mechanics, and Nigel Calder never asked if the propellor was clean. The number one cause of the symptoms you mentioned is an overloaded diesel engine. The number one cause of an overloaded diesel on an Amel with an AutoProp is growth on the blades...even a small amount of growth. Growth causes the blades to pitch too much, biting too much water and overloads the engine.

Also, from my experience, people like Nigel Calder who make imperative and absolute statements like "...should never smoke and is indicative of a serious issue," are only correct the majority of the time and usually provide good advice for gamblers. I hate gambling.

So, I will ask you: Is the propellor clean?

The other thing that I sometimes hear from experts is that the H6 AutoProp is too large or too small. Evidence that it is correct for a SM and a 54 is that over 600 Amels are operating with them...I believe that fact is much more credible than anyone's opinion.

Lastly, some of the Volvo D-3 110 have issues that sometimes even experts cannot figure out. If you own a good one, you will love it...if you own a bad one, good luck. That said, the chances of that Volvo being a good one are very high because based on the hull number, that engine was probably made in Volvo's 4th-5th year of production of the D3 110.

My advice, thoroughly clean that propellor and try things again.

Best,

Bill
X-BeBe

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:43 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Porter,

 

I’m not sure why you would trust the opinion of a group member rather than your own instincts and opinions of the expert mechanics? You seem convinced the boat has an issue and I seriously doubt even the most knowledgeable members of this group can guide or are willing to guide you down a particular path.  

 

If this is the boat for you, then reach a deal with the owner. Or, cut your losses and look for another boat.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Turks and Caicos Islands

www.creampuff.us

 





W. Porter McRoberts MD FAAPMR ABPMR ABA/Pain
Director Interventional Spine, Pain Medicine, Neurosurgery
Holy Cross Hospital
Fort Lauderdale, FL 
Assistant Professor, University of Miami School of Medicine












Negative ground slave solenoid

James Sterling
 

My slave solenoid has started clicking when the generator is running.  It also interferes with the Engine tach when the engine (4jh3-HTE) and genset are running together.  Has anyone had a similar problem?  I'd like to replace the solenoid anyway.  Is there an US replacement or is this part still available from Amel?


Thanks in advance.

James


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AC Installation in Florida

francesringley@...
 

Thanks all. I've reached out to Jeff to get this started.


Ian Townsend
Loca Lola II
SM153


Amel 53 Super Maramu 2000 for sale

drbobgray@...
 

Hi,
Please pass the word that our 1999 Amel 53 Super Maramu 2000 is for sale. 
S/V MoonDog is in the Great Lakes in Erie, PA (Lake Erie) and is well-cared and beautiful boat.
The boat also has a 2-piece all steel custom cradle and winter cover. Accepting offers at this time. Plan to list with a broker soon.  I've attached a photo of her from last summer 2016.
best wishes,
Bob Gray
(814) 397-3326
drbobgray@...



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: raw water cooling

greatketch@...
 

I was told by Joel Potter (who knows these kinds of things) that my boat (#160) was close to the time Amel started putting the anti-syphon vent in the seawater loop.  Mine has it. 

If yours does not, now we have that bracketed a bit tighter at greater than 123, less than 160!

It really is not much help in diagnosing low flow, because the majority of the water still should go out the exhaust hose. The actual purpose of the vent is to prevent syphoning of seawater back into the engine. Its use as a telltale is a nice bonus.

The installation of the vent is not at all obvious, since the vent itself in the center of a hollowed out bolt.  A clever design.  To be sure, run the engine at 2000 rpm (to get the water pump running hard) with the engine room hatch open.  If you have this vent water will be draining into the cockpit scupper right where the seawater loop is attached.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Isla Caja de Muertos, PR




---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote :

Gary, I have read about this stream of water in the cockpit before and have looked for it and not found it. I don't think my boat has this setup , wish it did. Its hard to lean over the port side far enough to view the exhaust well and then with it being partially in the water it is hard to determine strength of flow. I don't think I am getting all the flow I should , I will take off the oil cooler to see if I have any blockage , I wonder if I should take the raw water manifold off as well for a look see.
Thanks, Pat SM#123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water cooling

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes, a raw water impeller can pump less water without throwing a blade. Each engine/generator will wear out impellers at different rates. I believe that you should get to know this and replace your impeller every year or X hours. For the Yanmar 100hp, X is 400; and for the Onan, X is 200 hours. Don't use Globe Run Dry because their quality control is very poor. 

I also believe that there is no reason for saltwater anywhere in the engine room, unless you have the unfortunate experience of a closed system rupture. I always used a wet vac whenever opening any hose fitting, or closed system. Do this and you will be salt and corrosion-free. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Mar 31, 2017 08:40, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On the TMD22 the oil cooler is not likely to be the problem. It is not a shell and tube heat exchanger, rather it is just an aluminum box bolted to a flat spot on the transmission.  I'll be polite and call it a "minimalist design". Certainly it provides minimal cooling.


I saw some of the same temperature behavior on my TMD22 until I changed the impeller on the routine maintenance schedule.  Although the old one looked fine, after the change the temperature was much better behaved at near full throttle.  It still runs up a little, but only about 20 degrees and then stabilizes.  I  do not KNOW that the new impeller was  the cure, since I did some other maintenance and fussing as well, but it would be my best guess.

On those TMD22 transmission coolers, be sure to add th ose to your maintenance schedule if they are not already there.  With three different metals, and high velocity seawater they corrode at a rather quick pace.  Having one fail and fill your engine room with salt water will ruin your day!

Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Isla Caja de Muertos, PR

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water cooling

Mark Erdos
 

Pat,

 

Ditto on Bob’s comment. I would suggest starting at the sea-chest and working your way down the salt water flow. The tranny cooler is easy to service (do not over tighten when putting it back on or reconnecting the hoses). Also check the 90 degree elbows at the raw water pump. On the Yanmar, the raw water pump has a bar across it at the intake side. Not sue if Volvo has the same. I found a small clam lodged in there once. It took me forever to find it. I tore apart the entire cooling system and missed it the first time.

 

Most temperature issues are because the heat exchanger is not clean enough followed by after cooler flow issues for turbo charged engines. Taking the heat exchanger to a radiator shop is better than messing with the acid required aboard the boat.

 

Also check the thermostat on the coolant side. You can place it on a pan of water on the stove with a thermometer in it heat the water. Note the temperature when the thermostat operates. Check to see if it is in spec.

 

My guess is if you closely inspect the seawater flow passage from start to finish, you will find something partially blocked.

 

Also, check the manual for operating temperatures. Engines will increase in temperature as RPM or load increases. However, there is a cap on what it should warm to. The range should be in the owners manual. Our Yanmar runs at 180F under moderate load and 190F at full load.

 

Hope this helps. Good luck.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Turks and Caicos Islands

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 4:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water cooling

 

 

Pat, the transmission oil cooler should be checked every service as yes it does get blocked, mine blocked first time after 300hours in southern Australia due to the type of spaghetti thin sea grass in Port Phillip bay and the symptoms were identical to what you describe, temp goes up with revs, less water out exhaust. Easy to spot with the engine room hatch open look at the hose coming out of the transmission cooler, rev to 2500 (out of gear if your in dock)🙄 and the hose between the seawater pump and the trasmission cooler flattens as the pump creates a vacuum in this pipe as it's sucking and not getting flow.

 

The local Volvo dealer cleans the oil cooler every service, but he says this is good because the smaller tubes in the transmission cooler catch the weed and protect the heat exchanger from blocking up. It's a a really big job to clean weed out of the heat exchanger.

 

Bob Grey

Renaissance 3

On Friday, March 31, 2017, 08:38, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

I always check my exhaust for water flow after starting the engine , a Volvo TMD 22A. It is difficult to determine as the exhaust pipe is partially under water , I wish it had been installed a couple of inches higher. I have never thought I had as much water expelled as I would expect. I have seen many boats which seemed to have a more robust exhaust of water. My temperature seems to rise when the rpms go above 2500 . The heat exchanger is always kept clean . I have never taken off the raw water manifold or the transmission cooler, for those that have , have you found any blockage (growth etc.)that could inhibit the flow of water .

Thanks,

Pat SM#123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water cooling

greatketch@...
 

On the TMD22 the oil cooler is not likely to be the problem. It is not a shell and tube heat exchanger, rather it is just an aluminum box bolted to a flat spot on the transmission.  I'll be polite and call it a "minimalist design". Certainly it provides minimal cooling.

I saw some of the same temperature behavior on my TMD22 until I changed the impeller on the routine maintenance schedule.  Although the old one looked fine, after the change the temperature was much better behaved at near full throttle.  It still runs up a little, but only about 20 degrees and then stabilizes.  I  do not KNOW that the new impeller was  the cure, since I did some other maintenance and fussing as well, but it would be my best guess.

On those TMD22 transmission coolers, be sure to add those to your maintenance schedule if they are not already there.  With three different metals, and high velocity seawater they corrode at a rather quick pace.  Having one fail and fill your engine room with salt water will ruin your day!

Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Isla Caja de Muertos, PR

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: raw water cooling

Patrick McAneny
 

Gary, I have read about this stream of water in the cockpit before and have looked for it and not found it. I don't think my boat has this setup , wish it did. Its hard to lean over the port side far enough to view the exhaust well and then with it being partially in the water it is hard to determine strength of flow. I don't think I am getting all the flow I should , I will take off the oil cooler to see if I have any blockage , I wonder if I should take the raw water manifold off as well for a look see.
Thanks, Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Wells gary@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Mar 30, 2017 6:00 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] re: raw water cooling

 
Pat,
If you look at the aft part of your cockpit floor, port side, you can see a stream of water shooting out from the anti-syphon loop when the engine is running. One tiny mod I made was to run a small length of tubing (1/4" maybe) from that anti-syphon loop in the raw water hose to the scupper. I can hear a small gurgle with each start indicating the system has purged the air out and is moving sea water.
Also, if you go below and physically hold the big exhaust hose you can feel it 'shake' as quantities of water shooting through it.

That's about all I know :)

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Goldkind EU340 washing machine

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Barry,

You can probably find what you are looking for in the Files Section at: 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Thomson%20Washer-Dryer%20Manuals/

That is, if your washing machine is Amel OEM. I believe that Thompson was the OEM brand for SM2ks...Your hull number is prior to SM2k, so not sure. 

Good luck. 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Galveston Island
Sent using Google Fi
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Mar 30, 2017 22:14, "seagasm@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone have any information on this washing machine in ENGLISH please?


Thank you


Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM# 171



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sheet sizes for Maramu bunks

James Alton
 

Jacob,
   Sailboatdata.com has a drawing of the Maramu interior that we have roughly scaled to get the bunk sizes and shapes.  Just search on Amel Maramu at that website.  The wife has been making custom sheets and blankets for Sueno from the aforementioned drawing.  I am thinking that we used a queen sheet initially for the aft bunk.  Congratulations.

James Alton
SV Sueno, Maramu #220


Sent from my Galaxy S®III


-------- Original message --------
From: "jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date:03/30/2017 8:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] sheet sizes for Maramu bunks

 

My wife asks:  Has anyone used standard sized sheets on the aft bunk or V-berth bunks in a Maramu 46?  We are moving aboard in a few weeks, and I want to get sheets with me, but I can't measure ahead of time. 


Thanks!

Jacob


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water cooling

Bob Grey
 

Pat, the transmission oil cooler should be checked every service as yes it does get blocked, mine blocked first time after 300hours in southern Australia due to the type of spaghetti thin sea grass in Port Phillip bay and the symptoms were identical to what you describe, temp goes up with revs, less water out exhaust. Easy to spot with the engine room hatch open look at the hose coming out of the transmission cooler, rev to 2500 (out of gear if your in dock)🙄 and the hose between the seawater pump and the trasmission cooler flattens as the pump creates a vacuum in this pipe as it's sucking and not getting flow.

The local Volvo dealer cleans the oil cooler every service, but he says this is good because the smaller tubes in the transmission cooler catch the weed and protect the heat exchanger from blocking up. It's a a really big job to clean weed out of the heat exchanger.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3

On Friday, March 31, 2017, 08:38, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

I always check my exhaust for water flow after starting the engine , a Volvo TMD 22A. It is difficult to determine as the exhaust pipe is partially under water , I wish it had been installed a couple of inches higher. I have never thought I had as much water expelled as I would expect. I have seen many boats which seemed to have a more robust exhaust of water. My temperature seems to rise when the rpms go above 2500 . The heat exchanger is always kept clean . I have never taken off the raw water manifold or the transmission cooler, for those that have , have you found any blockage (growth etc.)that could inhibit the flow of water .

Thanks,

Pat SM#123


Re: Eumenia Goldkind EU340 washing machine

seagasm
 

Evidently, there could be a model name change given the age of this unit. I found a parts list for a EUDORA SOBA GK 340, appears to be the identical unit. What I am after is the heater element and possibly any other spare parts. I have no problems with the machine, I think it is a top little unit, but it needs an element. Any help would be appreciated.

Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Rewiring the engine and Starter Battery Current Leak

eric freedman
 

If we are talking about a yanmar there is heavy black wire that runs from the solenoid that grounds the block grounding. It runs  all around the back of the engine to the alternator. It is jammed under the Turbo and is extremely hard to remove.

There are at least 8 sensors and other connections SOLDERED into that wire and covered with electrical tape. Any one of these connections  or the wire itself, if it is chafed, and touches the block will ground the engine.

Here is the photo of the black wire at the engine grounding solenoid.  There are also 2 diodes in the circuit that can short out the system and create all kinds of havoc.. https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/photostream/lightbox/2102593734?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/2102593734

 

 

Here is a photo of one of the Amel factory solder joints.

https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/photostream/lightbox/2102593734?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/2103611017.

 

I have had strange electrical problems with the engine over the years.. I finally gave up and rewired the block correctly.

I opened every harness and replaced every wire with “ home Runs” to the grounding system instead of daisy chaining the ground wires. I also ran the new harnesses that I made near the top of the engine for easy access. Each of the harnesses are different colors so I know that the Dc positive wires to the senders , solenoids etc. are in a red harness. The yellow harness has all the grounding wires, and the third harness the green one is for the misc. devices mostly the starter circuit..

 

Good luck , it only took me a week to rewire the engine.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:39 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Starter Battery Current Leak

 

 

I see Bill's comment about dirt accumulation providing a path to ground. 

I agree, we had that problem on the Yanmar starter motor...not your problem, but salt infused dirt around the positive terminal of the starter solenoid shorted out the start battery when the key was turned...the panel voltmeter went to zero volts!...the motor wouldn't turn over obviously.

Cleaning all around the terminals cured the problem....which was probably caused by the fact that the raw water pump faces towards the starter motor and there's generally quite a bit of salt water around when the cover plate is removed.

Given that the starter battery is only connected to the alternator and starter on each engine as well as the panel switches...they are the places to look...but my bet would be the alternators and / or starter motors and solenoids.

Good luck

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437   

 


Re: Starter Battery Current Leak

Alan Leslie
 

I see Bill's comment about dirt accumulation providing a path to ground. 
I agree, we had that problem on the Yanmar starter motor...not your problem, but salt infused dirt around the positive terminal of the starter solenoid shorted out the start battery when the key was turned...the panel voltmeter went to zero volts!...the motor wouldn't turn over obviously.
Cleaning all around the terminals cured the problem....which was probably caused by the fact that the raw water pump faces towards the starter motor and there's generally quite a bit of salt water around when the cover plate is removed.
Given that the starter battery is only connected to the alternator and starter on each engine as well as the panel switches...they are the places to look...but my bet would be the alternators and / or starter motors and solenoids.
Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437   


Eumenia Goldkind EU340 washing machine

seagasm
 

Does anyone have any information on this washing machine in ENGLISH please?


Thank you


Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM# 171


Re: Starter Battery Current Leak

greatketch@...
 


Gary,

Almost a quarter amp is a lot, and more than I'd expect as "normal".  This is a lot easier to track down than the similar problem in the 24 volt system...  It has to be either the Onan or the drive engine...  or their 12 volt alternators.

Don't forget accumulated dirt making a part to ground. That would be my bet on this. And if I was putting odds, it would be one of the alternators.

But ground leaks have a way of being infinitely frustrating!

Bill Kinney
Isla Caja de Muertos, PR


sheet sizes for Maramu bunks

Jacob Champness
 

My wife asks:  Has anyone used standard sized sheets on the aft bunk or V-berth bunks in a Maramu 46?  We are moving aboard in a few weeks, and I want to get sheets with me, but I can't measure ahead of time. 


Thanks!

Jacob


Starter Battery Current Leak

Gary Wells
 

Seeing about 225 ma leaving the starter battery and I would've expected zero I guess. I'll start chasing it tomorrow but wondered if it's normal, or if not, whare a likely candidate might lie.

Thanks for any insights.

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio