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Re: New owners of an old Maramu
Jacob Champness
That sounds awesome, John and Stephen. Should we plan a date now or wait until next week?
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Re: Reefing procedure
Ian Park
Daniel,
Just a comparative phrase. Many of the parts and systems on the Santorin are the same as the SM, which is bigger and heavier. In comparison to many production boats Amel made things to last, so they were well engineered. As an example the gearbox on the Genoa is furling a smaller headsail than the SM, so less generally less strain on the working parts. Similarly the C Drive being pushed by a 50 HP non turbo Perkins compared to a much more powerful turbo Volvo on the SM. So 'over engineered' was definitely not a criticism, more of a bonus for Santorin owners. Ian Ocean Hobo SN96
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)
christian alby <calbyy@...>
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De : "Garulfo sv svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" À : amelyachtowners@... Envoyé le : Mercredi 5 avril 2017 16h02 Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat) Hi Christian, Do you have a contact for cryogenic blasting in west french med? Thomas Amel 54 #122 Cap d'Agde, France On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 at 17:01, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrical doubts on Santorin
Or EUPLOIA could be "E U People Living On Incredible Amel"
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Good luck with your wire hunt! Let us know what you find. Enjoy your Amel! Craig ---In amelyachtowners@..., <ste.dente@...> wrote : Hi Craig, thanks for your prompt answer. I will check the circuits and hope to find out the problem and solve the "mistery ". The name of my Santorini is quite strange ( I changed the previous one): she is called EUPLOIA ( greek origin: it means Good Navigation).
Il giorno 19 apr 2017, alle ore 20:36, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrical doubts on Santorin
ste.dente
Hi Craig, thanks for your prompt answer. I will check the circuits and hope to find out the problem and solve the "mistery ". The name of my Santorini is quite strange ( I changed the previous one): she is called EUPLOIA ( greek origin: it means Good Navigation).
Il giorno 19 apr 2017, alle ore 20:36, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Reefing procedure
danielmfrey63@...
Ian
"... nicely over engineered..." What do you mean? Daniel SN 64, Heureka
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New owners of an old Maramu
John Clark
Sounds like a party-date!
On Apr 19, 2017 1:51 PM, "Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrical doubts on Santorin
danielmfrey63@...
Hello Attilio You are in Didim? That is just around the corner, where I am: Kuşadası Setur Marina. Maybe we should meet one day? My boat is Santorin no. 64 (1992). Best - Daniel
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrical doubts on Santorin
Ciao Attilio and Stefania,
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Before you two run off for a secret talk in Italian :-) I am wondering about the two levers that connect the battery. We have a single switch that I believe was original Amel. It has four posts (double pole) and switches both the + and - battery cables with a Single Throw (hence DPST). There is only one circuit that bypasses the switch and it goes to the + and - terminals marked "Permanent" behind the chart table, to power the VHF. (The SM is similar but slightly different.) It sounds like a prior owner of SN#93 may have modified the wiring, perhaps changing to two switches, one for + and one for - but that is only a guess. However, if your bow thruster up-down, refrigerator and lights are still working after supposedly switching the battery off something is quite different than original. You will simply have to trace the circuits to figure it out. Cheers (and ciao), Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris. PS. What is the name of SN#93? ---In amelyachtowners@..., <attilio.siviero@...> wrote : Hi Stefania, I also own a Santorin since 2009, #84-1993, now in Didim-Turkey. Tuttavia posso se vuoi spiegarti telefonicamente la cosa delle batterie, anche in Italiano, se mi chiami allo 348 2330185 :-) Sorry for the Italian digression Attilio & Maria Siviero Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrical doubts on Santorin
Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
Hi Stefania,
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I also own a Santorin since 2009, #84-1993, now in Didim-Turkey. Tuttavia posso se vuoi spiegarti telefonicamente la cosa delle batterie, anche in Italiano, se mi chiami allo 348 2330185 :-) Sorry for the Italian digression Attilio & Maria Siviero Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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Electrical doubts on Santorin
ste.dente
Hello everybody! I'm a ( quite) new owner of a Santorini. I follow the groups every day because I know I have a lot to learn about my boat...
May be someone can explain what happens to me: when I have the battery off ( I mean: the two levers that connect the battery are in off-position), something on board is still working : lights, fridge and bow thruster up-down . The furling motors and the windlass don't work. What can I do to understand why it happens? Any suggestion would be very appreciated! Stefania SN#93 Italy - Bocca di Magra
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Re: Dinghy choices?
greatketch@...
Hi Steve,
A dinghy is a REALLY personal choice, even though the actual differences between them are pretty minor. When I went shopping for a new dinghy, I had a few requirements: It had to work well with the two of us on board, be driven on plane with our 8HP 2-cycle engine, have reasonable performance, be rugged enough to run up on a beach without worry about the bottom, and (this was the tough one!) fit in the stern locker of our SM. I wasn't going to have davits, and I really did not want to store my dinghy on deck--and I wanted a hard bottom. Seemed an impossible set of criteria... I asked here on the forum and got the suggestion to look at folding RIBs. We are delighted with our 10.5 foot folding rib. We have had it for about a year, and it has served us well--so far. I am not usually a fan of West Marine branded products, but this one has met all of my requirements. I know there are a few other manufacturers making similar designs, but they weren't available in the USA--where we were when we needed a dinghy. https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--foldable-rib-310-pvc-rigid-inflatable-boat Some minor downsides: we had to do some sewing work on the storage bag, some of the material used rotted very quickly in sunlight. I added a kevlar scuff-plate to the fiberglass hull to toughen it for landings. It takes a bit of practice to get it unfolded correctly before inflating, but after doing it a few times it goes together licky-split. And of course, we pay for the slick storage by needing to inflate the boat at each anchorage. It weighs about 120 lbs, pretty typical for a RIB of its size. With just me aboard, it does 15 knots, with the two of us it planes easily at 11 knots. If we add a boat full of provisions, planing gets a bit difficult with 8HP. When folded, the dinghy fits in a bag that slides down into the stern locker, even with our engine in there. That is our preferred storage for offshore passages. Neat and clean, just like Captain Amel would like! For short coastal trips, we fold the dinghy and store it in its bag tied down on the aft cabintop. At anchor, if we have any concerns about security, we use a three point harness to hoist it to the gunwale with either the ballooner halyard, or the mizzen staysail halyard. This is as easy a storage solution as davits--maybe even easier using the electric mainsheet winch and the mizzen staysail halyard. When we added our arch, I didn't even consider adding davits. I would never use them while sailing, and the cost/benefit for storage at anchor just did not compute compared to the simplicity of hoisting "on the hip." Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Culebra, P.R. ---In amelyachtowners@..., <steve_morrison@...> wrote : When we bought SM380 this fall, it was in need of a new dinghy, and as we prepare to move aboard in mid June, the time has come to make some decisions. We are a family of four (girls 8&10) and plan to spend at least the next season in the Caribbean if not two seasons there before pushing through into the Pacific. Riza promises that our aft arch will ship soon and so we will have aft davits onto which to pull up in the evenings at anchor. I am looking at the AB Lamina series 10AL or 10UL. My question is this - what are some of you using? How big, how small, and how heavy. Also, where do you stow it underway, and how - in a cradle, upside down, deflated...? What are some of your experiences and what do you think are the most important considerations. Thanks for your time, Steve Morrison SM 380 TouRai Brunswick, Georgia
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New owners of an old Maramu
Stephen Davis
Hi Jacob, and congratulations on your new Maramu. We have our SM at the Island Water World marina, but are currently in the USA until the 23rd. On our return to St Maarten, we should be a round for a few days prior to heading for Bonaire, and would love to get together. Steve and Liz Davis Aloha SM72 St Maarten
On Apr 18, 2017, at 20:15, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hauling out Hurricane season in Cairns
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Fred, I did look at the facilities in Mackay and they seemed OK to me. There seemed to be plenty of support subcontractors at the yard. I did not look at the facilities in Cairns. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas NavyCommander Emeritus Amel School 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:35 AM, scentstone@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dinghy choices?
Hi Steve, we have a 3D UL310 dinghy with a 10hp Honda. Dinghy is lightweight and stable. Handles 4 people and baggage. Engine is reliable but 4-cycle heavy. It can plane with 2 but not with more.
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Engine goes on external mount on starboard rail. (Does not fit in the lazarette) The dinghy goes on the forward or aft deck depending on where we want it. (Weight forward, but obstructed view. Or obstruction and weight on the aft cabin) We do not want it hanging on the arch as we already have enough weight back there. We towed the dinghy some in the BVI, but in addition to the lanyard we attach a safety cable. The VI is known for short distance and calm seas, but the ferry boats come fast and close. One almost flipped our dinghy when it zoomed by very close in a narrow channel. Some nights we leave it attached behind the boat, other nights we hoist it alongside with the extra mizzen halyard. We hoist when the wind is too light and we don't want it bumping in the night, or when the wind is strong and we dont want it tugging and chafing, or when we are concerned with security. We like to use the mizzen halyard with the electric winch vs the main halyard with manual winch on the mast. Watch for chafe on the painter line at the bow of the dinghy. Particularly if you tow alot or leave it behind the boat at night . We also briefly lost the dinghy towing it from one anchorage to another in the Saintes (we only had the painter cleated at the stearn and it somehow came loose. Kind Danish folks caught it for us as we turned back to retrieve it.) I hope that helps. Dan and Lori Carlson sv BeBe, SM#387
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hauling out Hurricane season in Cairns
Fred We live in Brisbane so I had hoped someone living further north from here may chime in first. My advice to anyone would be either Bundaberg or Scarborough in Brisbane. I certainly would never store Island Pearl II north of Bundy. Bundaberg is handy being a port of entry and has great rates and facilities. The risk there is flooding however that risk is now very slight as during the biggest floods over the past 40+ years the marina hard stand has been dry as it is on higher ground. Scarborough is excellent and perfectly safe. They have a smaller 40 ton travel lift which we have often seen lifting the SM53 and 54's but you will need to loosen your mizzen backstays. Also it is a smaller hard stand and make sure you insist on no tradesmen cars ever parking under your boat! If you were to keep her in the water Mackay Harbour recently lifted the height of their Harbour wall and it certainly stood up to the test of a significant cyclone a couple weeks ago, however it is a little rolly in there, is in normal cyclone zone and I know some Mackay locals with expensive boats who keep them in Brisbane during summer and Mackay in winter for some good reasons no doubt. The on water marina choices I personally use are firstly Newport Marina which is dead safe and cheap plus in 5km walking distance to a new rail station that gets you to the airport, city etc. In the past this marina had a shallow entrance channel however this was recently dredged to 2.2m and we have no issues anymore. This fact is not well known and not yet reflected in charts so you can often get a berth there at incredibly good rates. Second option here would be Scarborough marina which is a little more expensive but has a larger cruiser community and all the folk I know there are pretty happy. Good luck with it. Colin Streeter SV Island Pearl II. Amel 53 #332 Newport Marina. Brisbane Sent from my SAMSUNG Galaxy S6 on the Telstra Mobile Network
-------- Original message -------- From: "scentstone@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> Date: 19/04/2017 6:35 PM (GMT+10:00) To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hauling out Hurricane season in Cairns Thank you Bill for your support fast answer. My plan is the fastest transit to Darwin and Indian ocean, that's the reason why I would like to haul her out in Cairns. Did you check or evaluate the shipyards with on shore storage (Cairns or Mackay) ? or do you advise me against hauling out there ? Thanks a lot and kind regards. Fred S/V Scentstone SM2K #375
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Re: Hauling out Hurricane season in Cairns
jjjk12s@...
Fred, There 's not much choice in Cairns. The Yacht Squadron has a travel-lift and small hard stand storage area. That would be your best bet if you were set on Cairns. The travel-lift can cross the road and park your boat on the hard by the Big Boat Shed. Some boats have long term storage there. The other option is Norship. They also manage the Yacht Squadron travel-lift. Norship does bigger boats including navy vessels, fishing fleet and reef tour boats and is more expensive as it is geared for large commercial boats. I live in Port Douglas which is about a hour north from Cairns where I have 3 commercial boats as well as my Maramu. Regards John, Maramu #91 Popeye
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Re: Hauling out Hurricane season in Cairns
scentstone
Thank you Bill for your support fast answer.
My plan is the fastest transit to Darwin and Indian ocean, that's the reason why I would like to haul her out in Cairns. Did you check or evaluate the shipyards with on shore storage (Cairns or Mackay) ? or do you advise me against hauling out there ? Thanks a lot and kind regards. Fred S/V Scentstone SM2K #375
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reefing procedure
Ian Park
David
John's suggestion about the water pump is worth noting. Mine was leaking, but I didn't notice until it really started leaking when I got the the Algarve. I had a new one fitted and the old guy who did it rebuilt the old one as a spare. As for the grey water, yes everything gives down to the sump. The automatic pump does not extend as far down into the sump as the manual pump. So every few days pump the last dregs out by hand after the automatic pump has stopped. This gets rid of a lot of the worst stuff that sinks to the bottom. The build up of soap residue does create a nasty mess that sticks to the sides of the sump and the grey pipe that guides the float switch. I was told to put a dishwasher tablet in the sump once a week to help disperse this. I now put in some of the liquid you put in the dishwasher reservoir to stop the soap sheen on glass. I leave this in overnight so it doesn't get pumped out too soon. Admiral Bill (ex Be Be) said something about clamping an old sock over the sink outlet pipe in the sump as a sieve, and replacing it as necessary. I will give that a go when I get back to the boat, because cleaning the bilge is only just a bit nicer than taking the toilet pipes apart! Look after the bilge, because that is where the copper grounding strap goes down to attach to a keel bolt to connect the stub keel to the rudder zincs. They do rot through eventually, probably related to the composition of the mixture that goes through the bilge. There are posts on the forum related to replacing this. But you do have to empty the bilge totally to check the copper strap integrity. If you don't know when it was last checked or replaced, keep that one near the top of the to do list. However, don't get too hung up over all these comments. Get out and sail the boat first. There are plenty rainy days to check all this stuff. Ian Ocean Hobo SN96
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dinghy choices?
Since "Ocean Craft" are not far from us here in Australia we followed svdelos.com lead and have the same robust "tinny duck" now mounted on a cradle on the front deck, but also a much smaller 2.7m Sirocco rib on the rear deck. We had http://www.oceancraft.com.au make our one slightly shorter than SV Delos (3.0m instead of 3.3m) plus had them install a lockable seat/compartment up front for fuel tank, battery, & safe storage of gear when left locked up on a beach. Not sure how we will go with it yet, as we are about to leave Brisbane and start cruising north into Asia. Possibly we may regret the weight, size and view obstruction and end up using mainly the smaller one, only time will tell. For this reason I would hate to recommend it to you yet, but if any of you had a bunch of crew or kids and wanted a fun craft to get anywhere quickly regardless of weight then I would go straight for this option based on price, safety, ride comfort and absolute durability. With this outfit on the cradle we have a pretty clear view forwards (under the dingy), place a bit more weight in front (the rear of our SM is already just over her waterlines), and can carry just under 1 ton of fuel, supplies and 10 !!! people if need be. It is also unsinkable and we also added a floor (another air tight compartment) plus their lights option, and it takes both our 30hp and 15 hp 2 strokes, both getting it onto an easy plane immediately. Weight approx 90kg. Price AUD $7950.00 (same as the top line Hypalon models here) and the manufacturer informs me (thanks to the Youtube success of svdelos.com) he is selling these as fast as he can make them and shipping them all over the world. Apparently he can deliver them most places around the globe for only about $500 US shipping. If you want one of these I would recommend asking for the same one as on "Island Pearl II" as the 300mm shorter version makes it far easier to get around the front decks when at sea. Also the all round fender set option is essential and the front seat/storage option in our opinion is well worth the extra expense. Colin Streeter SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332 Brisbane
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:04 AM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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