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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck restoration question

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Dennis,

Three choices depending on a lot of things:

1.) You would be surprised what you can do by simply repainting the fauk caulking between the faux teak boards.Do one of the forward hatch covers and see what it looks like....see attached 

2.) If that does not look good to you, you, the faux teak boards are actually thick gelcoat. Try sanding off a little, then repaint the faux caulk.

3.) If that still does not achieve the appearance you want, 
  1. Sand everything thoroughly
  2. Use Awlgrip cream color to paint the faux boards and faux caulking. 
  3. Use 1/4" masking tape to cover the faux caulk, 
  4. Then have Awlgrip mixed to match the color of teak and paint the faux teak boards. 
  5. Remove the masking and you have faux teak boards, caulked with cream color faux caulk. 
Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Deck restoration question

Dennis Campbell
 

Hello all, 


I'm a new Maramu owner (#178) looking to carry out a major refit in Malaysia later this year. I have numerous questions that I will post separately ... so please be patient if you see multiple posts from me.


The faux timber deck on the '85 is badly weathered and I'm wondering if anyone has come up with a solution ... remove or repair?


Many thanks

Dennis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

Mike Johnson
 

Hi Ken,


In the past they have quickly provided us with spares.  Ian@... is the director and very helpful.

Very best wishes

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM2K #461




On Thursday, April 20, 2017 6:14 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Ken,

I attempted to find a new magnetic fridge gasket, but found it nearly impossible. Had I sent the model number and serial number of the Frigoboat fridge to Coastal Climate Control (info"at"coastalclimatecontrol .com), they would have queried Frigoboat in Italy and possibly they could have ordered it.

Here is what I found that solved my issue and the same thing for a number of other owners...even if you get a new gasket, you will need to follow this procedure:
  1. With the fridge door closed, use a dollar bill to determine the correct seal of the magnetic gasket. If the dollar bill can be moved freely anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet, the gasket is not sealing correctly.
  2. Is the external door lock adjusted correctly and is it in the locked position?
  3. Is the door aligned and adjusted correctly? 
  4. There are 3 bolts on each hinge, locking the hinge in place.
    1. Are they tight?
  5. Is the top of the door and side of the door parallel with the cabinet? This is the hardest thing to get right!
  6. Is the door flat against the cabinet on all sides? i.e. the door being "pulled in" or "pushed out" by either hing?
    1. If the door is not parallel or totally flat on all 4 sides against the door frame:
      1. Loosen all 6 bolts
      2. Press the door evenly so that all 4 sides are against the frame and the top and sides of the door are parallel with the cabinet. HINT: use some blue masking tape on the cabinet where the gasket meets the frame (thanks to Rick Grimes)...this will make parallel visibility easier in determining that the door is in the right position.
  7. Holding the door in position, tighten all 6 bolts. (This will test your patience)
  8. Test again using a dollar bill.
  9. Repeat the process if the dollar bill is loose anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet.
Also, you may want to completely remove the fridge to do this job and use a shop vac to clean the condenser fins, etc. If so, refer to this Photo Album: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/ groups/amelyachtowners/search/ photos?query=fridge#zax/ albums_1556459704

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970




On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:43 AM, sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
 
Hello all,

I just joined the group, and was looking for some help with the Frigoboat Fridge.  Has anyone found a replacement door seal for the standard Frigoboat Dood Seal?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks

Ken Powers 
Aquarius, ASM2K Hull number 262




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes,

I have name, copies, etc.

Send me an email to brouse"at"gmail.com and will return email them to you


Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:42 PM, rcavie <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello everyone

Does anyone have information or references from any law firm or specialist to register a yacht in BVI?

Thank you

Rafael 

SM k2 246



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yamaha outboard in SM Stern locker

Porter McRoberts
 

I love this forum!  I don’t even have to ask the questions and the answers for much of what i was wanting to ask!!


Thank you guys! (and gals)


Porter McRoberts
Ibis: 54-152
Ft. Lauderdale


On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:53 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Steve,


Just what I needed to know! 

Both the "Leisure" and the "Endro" are 2-stroke models.  I worry bit about the fit of the Leisure model in the locker because the shifter is out in front of the engine.  The 9.9 and the 15 Enduro are the same block and drive train, so if the 15 fits, the 9.9 will as well.

I have been very happy with our old 8HP, and hardily ever run it wide open. I had been thinking that anything over 9.9 would be overkill.  But with the 15 and 9.9 both weighing the same--and costing about the same--I might just go for the overkill.

Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Culebra, PR






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Mark Erdos
 

Rafael,

 

We are registered BVI and use Maitland for our corporation. We are very happy with them and the fees are reasonable (about US$1,300 per year for all of our corporate services):

Maitland
Midocean Management and Trust Services (BVI) Limited
Midocean Chambers, P. O. Box 805,
Road Town, Tortola,
British Virgin Islands
VG1110
Tel: +1 284 494 4567 ext 1004
Fax: +1 284 494 4568
maitlandgroup.com

We used Jan Painter at All Yacht Registries to help set us up:

 

http://www.allyachtregistries.com/

 

Jan is exceptional!

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of rcavie
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

 

 

Hello everyone

Does anyone have information or references from any law firm or specialist to register a yacht in BVI?

Thank you

Rafael 

SM k2 246


Registration

rcavie <no_reply@...>
 

Hello everyone

Does anyone have information or references from any law firm or specialist to register a yacht in BVI?

Thank you

Rafael 

SM k2 246


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ken,

I attempted to find a new magnetic fridge gasket, but found it nearly impossible. Had I sent the model number and serial number of the Frigoboat fridge to Coastal Climate Control (info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com), they would have queried Frigoboat in Italy and possibly they could have ordered it.

Here is what I found that solved my issue and the same thing for a number of other owners...even if you get a new gasket, you will need to follow this procedure:
  1. With the fridge door closed, use a dollar bill to determine the correct seal of the magnetic gasket. If the dollar bill can be moved freely anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet, the gasket is not sealing correctly.
  2. Is the external door lock adjusted correctly and is it in the locked position?
  3. Is the door aligned and adjusted correctly? 
  4. There are 3 bolts on each hinge, locking the hinge in place.
    1. Are they tight?
  5. Is the top of the door and side of the door parallel with the cabinet? This is the hardest thing to get right!
  6. Is the door flat against the cabinet on all sides? i.e. the door being "pulled in" or "pushed out" by either hing?
    1. If the door is not parallel or totally flat on all 4 sides against the door frame:
      1. Loosen all 6 bolts
      2. Press the door evenly so that all 4 sides are against the frame and the top and sides of the door are parallel with the cabinet. HINT: use some blue masking tape on the cabinet where the gasket meets the frame (thanks to Rick Grimes)...this will make parallel visibility easier in determining that the door is in the right position.
  7. Holding the door in position, tighten all 6 bolts. (This will test your patience)
  8. Test again using a dollar bill.
  9. Repeat the process if the dollar bill is loose anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet.
Also, you may want to completely remove the fridge to do this job and use a shop vac to clean the condenser fins, etc. If so, refer to this Photo Album: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=fridge#zax/albums_1556459704

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970




On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:43 AM, sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello all,


I just joined the group, and was looking for some help with the Frigoboat Fridge.  Has anyone found a replacement door seal for the standard Frigoboat Dood Seal?


Any help would be appreciated!


Thanks


Ken Powers 

Aquarius, ASM2K Hull number 262



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yamaha outboard in SM Stern locker

greatketch@...
 

Thanks Steve,

Just what I needed to know! 

Both the "Leisure" and the "Endro" are 2-stroke models.  I worry bit about the fit of the Leisure model in the locker because the shifter is out in front of the engine.  The 9.9 and the 15 Enduro are the same block and drive train, so if the 15 fits, the 9.9 will as well.

I have been very happy with our old 8HP, and hardily ever run it wide open. I had been thinking that anything over 9.9 would be overkill.  But with the 15 and 9.9 both weighing the same--and costing about the same--I might just go for the overkill.

Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Culebra, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Reefing procedure

Sv Garulfo
 

Based on our experience in the first months of sailing Garulfo with no real handover from the previous owner (language barrier) we would add the following points:

1. Make sure to know where the fuse boxes are for the furler motors and keep the accessible. Ours is in the sail locker and I remember having to move a few fenders away to reach it in the middle of a winter night, head down in large seas. 

2. On that occasion we got caught by the "make sure the genaker halyard is well out of the way". That combined with an overluffing genoa in a downwind reach allowed the forestay to sway and catch the halyard and block the motor. So ease your sheets just enough to remove the pressure in the sail but not to send the whole thing shaking madly. The rig and sails will appreciate, anyway.

3. As mentioned before, be familiar with any manual override and possibly have tools to help you operate them, like a power drill with a winch bit adapter. I spent 20 minutes rolling the genoa manually on the aforementioned occasion. It kept me warm. 

4. It is actually pretty easy to jam the in mast, we found, for us inexperienced people.  Especially if you are over cautious and operate the mast unfurling quicker than the traveler, in an attempt to go easy on the latter. The sail roll then expands into the mast and quickly block out the slot. Careful watching (definitely 1st rule) will catch imrhat situation early and it's not too difficult to undo. We found that operating both motors together wroked just fine. The traveler might be a bit faster so worth pausing it very briefly when furling to get a tight roll. 


I like the idea of furling the main clockwise or anti-clockwise based in the tack. It would probably help a lot furling on a downwind course. 


Live and learn,

Enjoy your Amel

Thomas & Soraya 
Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 08:57, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Daniel,
Just a comparative phrase. Many of the parts and systems on the Santorin are the same as the SM, which is bigger and heavier. In comparison to many production boats Amel made things to last, so they were well engineered. As an example the gearbox on the Genoa is furling a smaller headsail than the SM, so less generally less strain on the working parts. Similarly the C Drive being pushed by a 50 HP non turbo Perkins compared to a much more powerful turbo Volvo on the SM.
So 'over engineered' was definitely not a criticism, more of a bonus for Santorin owners.



Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

sailingaquarius@...
 

Hello all,


I just joined the group, and was looking for some help with the Frigoboat Fridge.  Has anyone found a replacement door seal for the standard Frigoboat Dood Seal?


Any help would be appreciated!


Thanks


Ken Powers 

Aquarius, ASM2K Hull number 262


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yamaha outboard in SM Stern locker

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Bill,

Is the leisure model a 4 stroke? If so, I have a friend with the 9.9 Yamaha 4 stroke, and it fits in the aft locker with no problems. We have the 15 Yamaha 2 stroke, and it fits as well. We love our 15 Yamaha, and the extra hp comes in handy. We can easily plane with 3, and it can get my wife and I with our dive gear off to a remote site on a plane as well. My friend with the 9.9 four stroke has to work to get he and I up on the plane, but it eventually gets there. You can get the 15 Enduro at the Yamaha dealer in St Maarten for about $2500. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
St Maarten 

On Apr 20, 2017, at 07:38, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

While we are in the Caribbean we will be looking at replacing/upgrading our venerable 8HP 2-stroke Yamaha dinghy engine.  We love her to death, but she is getting a bit long in the tooth.


There are two different lines of 2-stroke engines available from Yamaha, the "Leisure" model, and the "Enduro".  The obvious external difference is that the "Leisure" model has the shift lever forward on the tiller arm.


Does anybody know if either (or both!) of these engines in the 9.9HP size fit into the Super Maramu stern locker?


Bill Kinney

SM160 Harmonie

Culebra, PR


(No subject)

Dan
 

Hi, Samuel jobin

If you ever find your self in north Miami Florida I'll be more then happy to show you my 1983 mango 52. Hull # 33. Not a maramu but Similar in price. Good luck in your search.


Yamaha outboard in SM Stern locker

greatketch@...
 

While we are in the Caribbean we will be looking at replacing/upgrading our venerable 8HP 2-stroke Yamaha dinghy engine.  We love her to death, but she is getting a bit long in the tooth.


There are two different lines of 2-stroke engines available from Yamaha, the "Leisure" model, and the "Enduro".  The obvious external difference is that the "Leisure" model has the shift lever forward on the tiller arm.


Does anybody know if either (or both!) of these engines in the 9.9HP size fit into the Super Maramu stern locker?


Bill Kinney

SM160 Harmonie

Culebra, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New owners of an old Maramu

John Clark
 

Hi Steve and Jacob,
   Tuesday 25th  sounds great for me.

John Clark
Vent de Soleil  SM 37
Great Bay, St. Maarten

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

How does happy hour at Lagoonies which starts at 5 on Tuesday the 25th sound to everyone. All Amel owners invited, and I know there are at least half a dozen Amels in St Maarten now. 

Steve
Aloha SM72
St Maarten 
On Apr 20, 2017, at 06:02, jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

That sounds awesome, John and Stephen. Should we plan a date now or wait until next week?



(No subject)

Samuel Jobin <sjobin@...>
 

Hello all

We're currently shopping for a boat to take our young family safely through a whole chunk of the world over the next few years.  Amel Maramu 45' are top of our shopping list but we're located in Quebec Canada where none are to be found.  I'll be travelling for work to SanFrancisco next week (25 to 29 of April) and was wondering if there was any owner that would be willing to let me peek inside their Maramu so I can see it for myself.  I would like to confirm my impressions / validate our choice before starting to shop more seriously for THE boat.

More than willing to bring a few beers for the fellow captain who's willing to take on my offer!
Thanks guys
sam


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New owners of an old Maramu

Stephen Davis
 

How does happy hour at Lagoonies which starts at 5 on Tuesday the 25th sound to everyone. All Amel owners invited, and I know there are at least half a dozen Amels in St Maarten now. 

Steve
Aloha SM72
St Maarten 

On Apr 20, 2017, at 06:02, jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

That sounds awesome, John and Stephen. Should we plan a date now or wait until next week?


Re: New owners of an old Maramu

Jacob Champness
 

That sounds awesome, John and Stephen. Should we plan a date now or wait until next week?


Re: Reefing procedure

Ian Park
 

Daniel,
Just a comparative phrase. Many of the parts and systems on the Santorin are the same as the SM, which is bigger and heavier. In comparison to many production boats Amel made things to last, so they were well engineered. As an example the gearbox on the Genoa is furling a smaller headsail than the SM, so less generally less strain on the working parts. Similarly the C Drive being pushed by a 50 HP non turbo Perkins compared to a much more powerful turbo Volvo on the SM.
So 'over engineered' was definitely not a criticism, more of a bonus for Santorin owners.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Good morning
contacts are for our area Languedoc Rousssilon
a) BIOGOM - Franck Gautier +33(0)667609548 in Montpellier - web site Nettoyage par Hydrogommage, aérogommage, sablage | Biogom dans le 66, 11, 34, 30, 13, 83, 06 
b) AXIUM - Claire Berçot +33(0)627703499 in Canet Roussillon - Turnkey services from receiving & authorisations in Canet Technical zone, thru cleaning, blasting (subcontract Biogom) to painting ...
fair winds


Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80



De : "Garulfo sv svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]"
À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : Mercredi 5 avril 2017 16h02
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

 
Hi Christian,

Do you have a contact for cryogenic blasting in west french med?

Thomas

Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France



On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 at 17:01, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 we did clean the hull of our 1982 Maramu april 2016 using cryogenic blasting; quite common now in the industry in Europe.
- boat had been in water since april 2014, unused since april 2015, growing weeds by the bushel & great farm for oysters & mussels -

Cryogenic blasting uses CO2 gas to produce carbonic dry ice pellets blasted on the hull at low air pressure; no dirt or pollution and less agressive on gel coat resins.
cleaned all layers of antifouling paint which had been splattered on during ? ages (no record of maintenance when we boughht the boat 2016) ?
went down to gel coat layers & left them clean to survey the hull and dry out before laying on new protection (époxy coating) underwater.
reasonable price (Euros 2K Euros for a speedy process - took 4 hours (setting up, work & dismantling apparatus) to team of 2 to clean the bottom hull of the Maramu.

If available in your corner of the Oceans, I would recommend that you check industrial cleaning companies for the service - search companies or small operators working for metal, housing (front coatings), wood, stone cleaning using low pressure compressors.

Worth the cost when you gain another 10 to 15 years of trouble free hull & the extra speed from a clean & smooth hull.

fair winds & clean hulls

christian alby, Maramu Désirade VIII, Canet/roussillon





De : "Steve Lawson lawson911@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : Lundi 16 janvier 2017 16h34
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

 
I did my bottom a few years ago, and my current boat is a Dufour 39 ( working my way up to an Amel ). It's a dirty, rotten, time consuming job, that you may do once, but will never repeat. Sandblasting is old school, the latest and greatest is soda blasting, which does a great job, is environmentally friendly, and is easier on the hull than sandblasting.
Cheers

On Jan 16, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
I have been thinking I would like to get rid of all the layers of bottom paint. I was wondering about chemical stripers , if they work and how well. Seems like you may run the risk of scratching the gel coat scraping , is that a concern and how wide of a scraper would you use. I got a quote of almost $3000. to sandblast, more than I expected , being a one day job , but if it saves ten days of scraping ... Just wondering what others have done. Also wondering how one deals with the bottom of the keel only a couple of inches off the ground and resting on blocking.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Jan 15, 2017 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sandblasting Good or Bad?(to remove Antifouling to Gellcoat)

 
I have always avoided the chemical strippers myself due to concerns of short and long term damage to the gel coat.  The stuff goes into any cracks in the gel coat and can get into the laminate and or into any voids under the gel coat which is not a good thing.   The suggestion that was made to use a good sharp scrapper is IMO a good way to go,  just take your time.  As was also suggested, go with the carbide blades.  The Bahco 660 or 665 scrapper works well for me,  you can find these on Amazon.  You can also sand it off with a dustless system or use this as a follow up to the scrapping.  Definitely avoid using a heat gun as it is just too easy to craze the gel coat. 

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Sardinia,  Italy

On Jan 15, 2017, at 1:11 PM, santorinlo18@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi Forum, Just about to scrap bottom - is sand blasting good method? seen the end result - looks neat but rough compare to manual. Not sure if good or bad, however, about 50% cost compare to manual + chemical. Any experiences or view