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Re: Maramu mainsail furling issues

Jacob Champness
 

Hi Eric.

Thanks for that.  I'll check there.  So that would be all the way forward in the v-berth?  I know there are some solenoids up there for the windlass.  

Ours is an old Maramu, by the way, so not certain if it would be the same as on your Super?

I'd love to drop by.  I'll be working online with my west coast colleagues until 5, so will try our luck with traffic after that.  Not sure how you'd feel about my 6 and 9 year-olds tagging along?  

Jacob Champness
Maramu 202 - Lark
St. Martin


Re: Maramu mainsail furling issues

Jacob Champness
 

Thanks Bill.  

I don't think the issue is the breaker, because I hear a clunk when I hit the switch, so I think the solenoid is firing.  That said, I do not know where the breaker is.  Can you tell me that?

I had no idea about slipping the drive motor down.  That makes all the sense in the world!  I'll try it later today when I'm back at the boat.  Thanks!

When you say documentation, are you talking about a manual for the furler?  I haven't found such a thing on the boat so far, no.  I'd love to get my hands on a systems manual for this boat.  Do you know if they ever produced one for the Maramus?

Thanks for the reminder about the signature. 

Jacob Champness
Maramu 202 - Lark
St. Martin


Regulator for MasterVolt Alpha alternator on Amel 54s

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi

We are away from the boat and I would need to know what type of charge regulator may be factory fitted on the Mastervolt Alpha alternator used in (later?) Amel 54s. 

In particular, I'm trying to see if it is the Alpha Pro MB (masterbus) regulator. 

If someone knows or could have a quick look at their set up that would be great 

Thanks 


Fair winds
Thomas

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Buyers

Jean Boucharlat
 

To Jay Waganon

 

You are using this group as a marketing tool.

This is not acceptable.

 

Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: lundi 24 avril 2017 02:46
To: Amel Owners
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Buyers

 

 

Hi All,

 

I am an Amel owner and Broker. I recently had the wonderful experience of listing and quickly selling a bristol condition 2002 SM. We were under contract in 5 days after the listing went fully live. A pivotal part of the sale was the condition of the boat, and the owners knowledge and willingness to have a smooth transaction through training the buyer. My brokerage is also the largest in the world and we have more buyers than boats. I am now in the position of having a lot of potential Amel buyers who were backups for that sale. 

 

I love these boats. If you are interested in selling, I have eager buyers. Email me at jayw@... if you are ready to sell. I am not trying to use our owners group as a marketing tool but it is rare to have so many people wanting to join our community. 

 

Fair winds and following seas.

Jay Wagamon

 

PS - I am also looking for a dinghy davit if anyone has one for sale


Re: Increasing fuel capacity - Maramu #178

Ian Park
 

Just an addition, I think the Maramu and some of the older designs had the prop shaft generator, which, given fair winds, produces a fair amount of electricity en route.
I agree though about extra fuel and peace of mind - our Santorin carries 400l and we took an extra 80l in Jerry cans in the liferaft locker. We hardly used any diesel at all on the Atlantic crossing and only needed the engine coming in to anchor. We have no experience of the longer Pacific passages.
Any other comments from folks with the prop shaft alternator?

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu mainsail furling issues

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu mainsail furling issues

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The most common problem with new owners and electric furlers is a blown circuit breaker. Do you know where the breaker is for the Main Furler?

The most common problem with new owners trying to manually furl the main is that they do not slip the drive motor down, disengaing it from the foil. The foil will never turn with the motor engaged.

Do you have any documentation?

We all normally sign our posts with our name, the name of the boat, the model and hull number and the location. It helps someone help you when you need help.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 9:15 PM, jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Does anyone know someone who can help sort out issues with the furler on our new-to-us Maramu in St Martin? It worked well during our sea-trial, but is now stuck furled to within about 1 meter of closed.   Neither the manual nor the power furler seems to be able to budge it either in or out.  Any more experienced Amel folk in the vicinity able to swing by and take look?  I'd definitely owe you a beer or 6...



Maramu mainsail furling issues

Jacob Champness
 

Does anyone know someone who can help sort out issues with the furler on our new-to-us Maramu in St Martin? It worked well during our sea-trial, but is now stuck furled to within about 1 meter of closed.   Neither the manual nor the power furler seems to be able to budge it either in or out.  Any more experienced Amel folk in the vicinity able to swing by and take look?  I'd definitely owe you a beer or 6...


Re: Amel Buyers

greatketch@...
 

I am not trying to use our owners group as a marketing tool...

If this isn't marketing, what--exactly--is it?  Please, this is not the right venue for your solicitations.  Read the group rules.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Culebra, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Buyers

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jay,

Congratulations! I did not realize that you owned popyachts.com. I thought David Perkins founded it. Congratulations on your good fortune and hard work.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 7:45 PM, J Wagam jwagam@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,

I am an Amel owner and Broker. I recently had the wonderful experience of listing and quickly selling a bristol condition 2002 SM. We were under contract in 5 days after the listing went fully live. A pivotal part of the sale was the condition of the boat, and the owners knowledge and willingness to have a smooth transaction through training the buyer. My brokerage is also the largest in the world and we have more buyers than boats. I am now in the position of having a lot of potential Amel buyers who were backups for that sale. 

I love these boats. If you are interested in selling, I have eager buyers. Email me at jayw@... if you are ready to sell. I am not trying to use our owners group as a marketing tool but it is rare to have so many people wanting to join our community. 

Fair winds and following seas.
Jay Wagamon

PS - I am also looking for a dinghy davit if anyone has one for sale



Amel Buyers

J Wagam <jwagam@...>
 

Hi All,

I am an Amel owner and Broker. I recently had the wonderful experience of listing and quickly selling a bristol condition 2002 SM. We were under contract in 5 days after the listing went fully live. A pivotal part of the sale was the condition of the boat, and the owners knowledge and willingness to have a smooth transaction through training the buyer. My brokerage is also the largest in the world and we have more buyers than boats. I am now in the position of having a lot of potential Amel buyers who were backups for that sale. 

I love these boats. If you are interested in selling, I have eager buyers. Email me at jayw@... if you are ready to sell. I am not trying to use our owners group as a marketing tool but it is rare to have so many people wanting to join our community. 

Fair winds and following seas.
Jay Wagamon

PS - I am also looking for a dinghy davit if anyone has one for sale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator Troubles

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

Use your ohm meter to check for continuity between the terminals on the temperature sensor on the exhaust elbow. That temp/sensor/switch is normally CLOSED. As the exhaust elbow temperature rises above the switch tolerance, the switch OPENS. 

Remember there are a number of sensors in the shutdown system, and these switches will fail. I replaced the exhaust manifold temperature switch and the waterflow switch because of failures. I also had one situation with a loose connection on a switch.

Did you use your laser temperature gun to measure temperature? The normal temperature of the exhaust elbow is about 50C and the normal temperature of the coolant is about 80C. Were these in range? How many hours since the last impeller change?

The impeller blades can look OK, but the impeller be defective:
  1. I have experienced the rubber part of the impeller becoming unattached to the metal hub, resulting in the rubber impeller slipping on the hub, but only after the generator reached operating temperature...this was a Globe brand "Run Dry" impeller...DON'T EVER BUY THOSE
  2. I have experienced the tiny key on the impeller shaft wearing and causing the metal hub of the impeller to spin on the shaft.
  3. I have experienced the blades on an impeller wearing in such a way that they become shorter and cannot push as much water. This usually happens to boaters who only replace impellers when they lose blades, rather than at hour limit. My experience in worn length of impeller blades was also with a Globe brand "Run Dry" impeller...DON'T EVER BUY THOSE. I believe the Onan impeller should be an OEM impeller and changed every 300 hours or 12 months, whichever comes first.
I would bet big odds that you have an impeller problem because one blade was in the opposite direction...I believe that with a good impeller and pump, this should never happen. I believe that you may have one of the above situations going on with the impeller and you should not only replace the impeller, but also, with a high degree of certainty, eliminate the potential problems that I listed above.

HINT: It is always easier to remove the Onan saltwater pump (two bolts) to replace the impeller. Have your wet-vac available and a large shop towel to eliminate any possibility of saltwater getting on anything.

Good luck, and I hope this helps.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator Troubles

luvkante
 

Faulty sensor?

Martin
Amel 54 #149
CHIARA

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 23.04.2017 um 17:01 schrieb sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

The generator has my attention...again.


This morning it shut down with a "3" fault code, which the manual said requires service by trained personell.  I then read there is a second level code accessed by pressing the STOP once.  I got the "58" fault code, "High Exhaust Temperature".

I checked:
-Impeller: it's all there, no apparent damage.  Although strangely one of the vanes was bent the wrong way at the "pump side".
-Coolant or raw water leaks: none apparent.
-Coolant level: unchanged in the surge tank.
-Temperature of the water in the muffler: it was surprisingly at room temperature???
-Seachest for blockage: it was clear.
-Exhaust elbow: not particularly hot (water didn't sizzle).

I tried to let it cool down and restart it so that I could get a temperature on the exhaust elbow.  It would start, but would not run for more than a few seconds, and then flashed the same fault code.

About eight months ago I had a "High Engine Temperature" and found that the exhaust elbow waterjacket had a hole in it, and the heat exchanger would not hold pressure.  I replaced them both and haven't had a problem with high temp's again until now.

I did check that water was being ejected in the exhaust immediately after starting and it was normal.  I'm perplexed, what could be the problem?

Could this be a result of the freshwater leak into the generator from the watermaker flush valve?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator Troubles

Duane Siegfri
 

Wow!  Steve!  You were exactly right.  One of the wires on the temperature sensor was disconnected...the screw had fallen out.  I'm amazed I didn't notice that when I was looking at the exhaust elbow and trying to determine whether it was hot.

As I write this the genny is humming along, happy as a clam, pouring amps into the batteries and making water.

Are you going to be in Brunswick this summer?  We're headed there in early July for hurricane season.  Be nice to meet and buy you a beer or two!

Thank you for the help!
Duane
Outside No Name Harbor, Key Biscayne


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator Troubles

Stephen MORRISON <steve_morrison@...>
 

Duane. I had these very same codes and my generator often shut down within the first two minutes of running. I had Cummings come out and look it over and it turned out to be the exhaust sensor. A little fumbling with the wires and it has run smooth ever since. I did order a spare sensor to have on hand but the Cummings service guy said I could also just connect the wires directly and bypass the sensor as a fix if needed as in his opinion, so long as water was running through, which has its own sensor, the exhaust cannot get hot enough to be a problem.

All the best,
Steve Morrison
SM380
Brunswick




On Apr 23, 2017, at 11:01 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The generator has my attention...again.


This morning it shut down with a "3" fault code, which the manual said requires service by trained personell.  I then read there is a second level code accessed by pressing the STOP once.  I got the "58" fault code, "High Exhaust Temperature".

I checked:
-Impeller: it's all there, no apparent damage.  Although strangely one of the vanes was bent the wrong way at the "pump side".
-Coolant or raw water leaks: none apparent.
-Coolant level: unchanged in the surge tank.
-Temperature of the water in the muffler: it was surprisingly at room temperature???
-Seachest for blockage: it was clear.
-Exhaust elbow: not particularly hot (water didn't sizzle).

I tried to let it cool down and restart it so that I could get a temperature on the exhaust elbow.  It would start, but would not run for more than a few seconds, and then flashed the same fault code.

About eight months ago I had a "High Engine Temperature" and found that the exhaust elbow waterjacket had a hole in it, and the heat exchanger would not hold pressure.  I replaced them both and haven't had a problem with high temp's again until now.

I did check that water was being ejected in the exhaust immediately after starting and it was normal.  I'm perplexed, what could be the problem?

Could this be a result of the freshwater leak into the generator from the watermaker flush valve?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Onan Generator Troubles

Duane Siegfri
 

The generator has my attention...again.

This morning it shut down with a "3" fault code, which the manual said requires service by trained personell.  I then read there is a second level code accessed by pressing the STOP once.  I got the "58" fault code, "High Exhaust Temperature".

I checked:
-Impeller: it's all there, no apparent damage.  Although strangely one of the vanes was bent the wrong way at the "pump side".
-Coolant or raw water leaks: none apparent.
-Coolant level: unchanged in the surge tank.
-Temperature of the water in the muffler: it was surprisingly at room temperature???
-Seachest for blockage: it was clear.
-Exhaust elbow: not particularly hot (water didn't sizzle).

I tried to let it cool down and restart it so that I could get a temperature on the exhaust elbow.  It would start, but would not run for more than a few seconds, and then flashed the same fault code.

About eight months ago I had a "High Engine Temperature" and found that the exhaust elbow waterjacket had a hole in it, and the heat exchanger would not hold pressure.  I replaced them both and haven't had a problem with high temp's again until now.

I did check that water was being ejected in the exhaust immediately after starting and it was normal.  I'm perplexed, what could be the problem?

Could this be a result of the freshwater leak into the generator from the watermaker flush valve?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: HELP HELP NEEDED REMOVING VETUS COUPLING

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Eric, 
I've done two of these, mine and another SN, that were absolutely frozen like yours. 
In both cases all the usual steps failed, from soaking for days in lubricant, heat, cold and hammering. Even broke a custom wheel puller fabricated from plate steel. 
Finally got them off using a hand sledge hammer and a cold chisel in the (very) small space between the sleeve and the steel ring on the "C" drive shaft. After an hour or so, maybe two, when I was about to give up, it finally moved just a fraction. Just kept at it and it never really moved more easily, just a fraction at a time. As the gap got wider I switched chisels and added spacers as needed. Damn thing fought me all the way.
When you get it off you might want to remove the ring, which covers the upper lip seal, and replace the seal. 
Before reassembling, I did take a thousandth or so off the shaft with sandpaper and greased it. Can now take the coupling off by hand.
Good luck with it.
 Craig  SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

I have a 4

JH3HTE Yanmar on Kimberlite. I lifted the engine to change the engine mounts and cut the bolts holding the Vetus coupling together with the "C" drive and transmission.

Everything came apart easily. Unfortunately the

Amel modified  Vetus sleeve that has the keyway cut into it and the 4 rubber donuts will not come off the shaft of the "C" drive.

I have tried everything I can think of and the sleeve will not move. The engine is ready for a new coupling and mounts as soon as I can get this sleeve off. ANY IDEAS?

 

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HELP HELP NEEDED REMOVING VETUS COUPLING

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Eric

Might not be of great help but i read about changing the silent blocks and realigning the engine here:


It's unfortunately in french but there are pictures and maybe Google translate can extract a few tips. 

I'm not experienced enough to translate the technical details but Nicolas says the Amel yard was of great help. 


Good luck


Thomas
Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 at 22:56, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have a 4

JH3HTE Yanmar on Kimberlite. I lifted the engine to change the engine mounts and cut the bolts holding the Vetus coupling together with the "C" drive and transmission.

Everything came apart easily. Unfortunately the

Amel modified  Vetus sleeve that has the keyway cut into it and the 4 rubber donuts will not come off the shaft of the "C" drive.

I have tried everything I can think of and the sleeve will not move. The engine is ready for a new coupling and mounts as soon as I can get this sleeve off. ANY IDEAS?

 

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: Deck restoration question

j.lochhead@...
 

Hi Denis.  I am in Malaysia at the moment doing a refit on our 1984 Maramu.

If you send me an email I can let you know our experience.

Contact me on j_lochhead@hotmail. 


Re: Increasing fuel capacity - Maramu #178

Dan
 

The mango included a generator as an option in the build sheet back in ancient 1981. And also saw Amel meltem with generator. They were probably Hugh.