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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] VAT

Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
 

Hi. I am Swiss. I have heard similar difficulties from
other Swiss, although the reports have been very
variable, depending on where in the E.U. they may be.
You might want to consider an alternative, to form an
offshore corporation, for example in the British
Virgin Islands, and to have the boat registered there.
This lets you navigate under the "Red Ensign" as a
fully British Ship, but not subject to the E.U. This
said, I have read (rumors & hearsay I think) that some
E.U. authorities try to go after ALL non-E.U. vessels
to see what VAT they can get. I think you should have
the benefit of professional counsel regarding this,
not private opinions. It is worth doing right from the
beginning.
--- rita_zanola2002 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello to you,

We will get our SM 2000 next spring.
As discussed in Larochelle, we have been told, that
we as suiss
with swiss- registration, do not have to pay VAT.

It sounds good, but from diffrent places, we have
heard, that we will
have to pay the VAT, as soon as we will enter the EU
in the Med.

Are among you any swiss, who have the experience
in this matter an
could advise us ?

Would be glad if anyone contact us , first by Mail
at
R.Zanola@t-online.de


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VAT

rita_zanola2002 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello to you,

We will get our SM 2000 next spring.
As discussed in Larochelle, we have been told, that we as suiss
with swiss- registration, do not have to pay VAT.

It sounds good, but from diffrent places, we have heard, that we will
have to pay the VAT, as soon as we will enter the EU in the Med.

Are among you any swiss, who have the experience in this matter an
could advise us ?

Would be glad if anyone contact us , first by Mail at
R.Zanola@t-online.de


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Moisture and Osmosis in Super Maramu

Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
 

I cannot tell you how the Super-Maramu will do with
osmosis, having one which is only 2 years old, but I
had an Amel Maramu for 21 years without any hint of
osmosis. So, unless Amel have changed their process, I
would say this is not a concern. Regarding your other
questions I cannot say. I had no problems with
electrolysis on the Maramu, and I don't expect any on
the SM. The Maramu was similarly protected as the SM.
If I can be otherwise helpful please tell me. Regards,
Claude Roessiger
--- davidcrisp <david@familycrisp.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Am in the process of buying my first Amel - a 1995
Super Maramu. Have
just had the survey results back and it prompts some
questions.

(1) The surveyor found moisture readings of 20% in
the below water
line hull vs 5% above water line (Sovereign relative
scale not
actually 20% by content). This is high by by normal
standards but
something he has found in all 7 Amels he has
surveyed.
Anyone know why the moisture is so high? Is it an
issue? Are Amels
prone to osmosis and or blistering?

The epoxy coating on the hull which contains copper
- am I correct in
thinking this is more for antifouling than water
proofing since the
moisture readings are so high?

(2) There are only zincs on the rudder and
propellor. It seems odd
that there are no zincs on the cast iron keel. Is
it common to add
more zincs to the keel in these days of 'hot
marinas".

(3) The keel/hull join is faired in and painted over
with epoxy.
With movement of the keel and electrolysis this
paint has flaked off
and the keel is slightly corroded. What is the norm
for refinishing
keels? Maybe flexible sealer at the hull join
instead of filler and
then zinc primer and antifouling on cast iron keel?

Are there any other things to watch out for on
Amels? Are there any
standard improvemtns owners make (e.g. I note there
are no
sacrificial UV strips on the sails).

Regards
David


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Moisture and Osmosis in Super Maramu

David Crisp
 

Hi all,

Am in the process of buying my first Amel - a 1995 Super Maramu. Have
just had the survey results back and it prompts some questions.

(1) The surveyor found moisture readings of 20% in the below water
line hull vs 5% above water line (Sovereign relative scale not
actually 20% by content). This is high by by normal standards but
something he has found in all 7 Amels he has surveyed.
Anyone know why the moisture is so high? Is it an issue? Are Amels
prone to osmosis and or blistering?

The epoxy coating on the hull which contains copper - am I correct in
thinking this is more for antifouling than water proofing since the
moisture readings are so high?

(2) There are only zincs on the rudder and propellor. It seems odd
that there are no zincs on the cast iron keel. Is it common to add
more zincs to the keel in these days of 'hot marinas".

(3) The keel/hull join is faired in and painted over with epoxy.
With movement of the keel and electrolysis this paint has flaked off
and the keel is slightly corroded. What is the norm for refinishing
keels? Maybe flexible sealer at the hull join instead of filler and
then zinc primer and antifouling on cast iron keel?

Are there any other things to watch out for on Amels? Are there any
standard improvemtns owners make (e.g. I note there are no
sacrificial UV strips on the sails).

Regards
David


Amel Pampero?

DJ_Gahan <dj_gahan@...>
 

Hello people!

For mentioned boattype I'm desperately looking for photos and specs!
If you feel you can help,please do not hesitate to contact me on
LAUWRENCE.R@PLANET.NL

Thanks a million in advance!

Lauwrence Robinson
The Netherlands


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL KIRK

Szabo Geza <szabog@...>
 

Hi!

I have some photos of an used Krk just from outside, and a pdf
with some technical information of another used one.

Why are you looking for?

Regards

Geza Szabo

-----Original Message-----
From: carmensita72 [mailto:atleticus@hotmail.com]
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL KIRK

I am looking for some information, even detailed by photo, on the
model kirk of the yard Amel.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL KIRK (TO SZABO GEZA)

atleticus@...
 

Because in Italy, although the yards Amel are very known, there are not a lot of information. I am trying of to appraise the acquisition of an used and before contacting the person of the announcement that I have read, I wanted to inform me on the model. Really last night after having sent the message to the group I have found a site with a document pdf (http://www.bluenautic.com/files/BN74.pdf), but more news and photo I succeed in recovering better it is...

----- Original Message -----
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To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL KIRK


Hi!

I have some photos of an used Krk just from outside, and a pdf
with some technical information of another used one.

Why are you looking for?

Regards

Geza Szabo

-----Original Message-----
Wrom: YOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCR
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL KIRK

I am looking for some information, even detailed by photo, on the
model kirk of the yard Amel.


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AMEL KIRK

carmensita72 <atleticus@...>
 

Hi I'm Carmen from Italy.
I am looking for some information, even detailed by photo, on the
model kirk of the yard Amel.
There be for case someone who can help me!

Thanking you in advance...
a regard to everybody.

Carmen


AMEL KIRK

carmensita72 <atleticus@...>
 

Hi I'm Carmen from Italy.
I am looking for some information, even detailed by photo, on the
model kirk of the yard Amel.
There be for case someone who can help me!

Thanking you in advance...
a regard to everybody.

Carmen


Re: advice on Spain/Portugal ?

pagandaisy <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "John & Ruth Martin" <jjmartin24@h...>
wrote:
Hello All

We hopefully will soon be owners of a 1999 Super Maramu currently
lying in
La Rochelle. Assuming closing goes as planned in July, we plan to
start
moving her southward in August towards the Canaries and cross over
to the
Caribbean in November. Does anyone have any personal knowledge of
good
cruising areas in the Bay of Biscay, north coast Spain, or
Portugal ? Are
the Imray Lorrie cruising guides pretty good ? We may need to leave
her for
a month or so, can anyone recommend a reasonably economical and
safe
harbor/marina in Portugal ?

Thanks alot

John & Ruth Martin


We sailed over several years ago via La Coruna and Madeira. The
guide that Amel provided with the boat was excellent for France and
the Bay of Biscay (Gascoyne to the French). We had an excellent
guide to Spain and Portugal La Coruna to Gibralter. Actually the
title. Fortunately we didn't need it. Excellent French charts are
available in La Rochelle. Those for Portugal and onward in La
Coruna. A decent marina is inside the wall in La Coruna. I'd
suggest you call ahead. I wouldn't be afraid to leave a boat there.
Anything else we can help you with, just write.
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Re: New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

hollambyuk <hollamby@...>
 

I
cannot get Mark Hansens filed message. WHY?


advice on Spain/Portugal ?

John & Ruth Martin <jjmartin24@...>
 

Hello All

We hopefully will soon be owners of a 1999 Super Maramu currently lying in La Rochelle. Assuming closing goes as planned in July, we plan to start moving her southward in August towards the Canaries and cross over to the Caribbean in November. Does anyone have any personal knowledge of good cruising areas in the Bay of Biscay, north coast Spain, or Portugal ? Are the Imray Lorrie cruising guides pretty good ? We may need to leave her for a month or so, can anyone recommend a reasonably economical and safe harbor/marina in Portugal ?

Thanks alot

John & Ruth Martin


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maamu 2000

Dimitrios Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

tHANKS FOR THE ADVISE. IT SEEMS THAT THE PROBLEMS IS FROM THE ENGINE.
THERE WERE AIR BUBLES IN THE SYSTEMS AND THE TECHNICIAN IN ISCHIA TRIED
TO REDUCE IT BY CHANGING THE FILTER AND TIGHTENING OF THE SCREWS.
PERHAPS IS ALSO A YANMAR PROBLEM . EVERY TIME WE ENTER A HARBOR WE PRAY
THAT THE ENGINE WILL WORK AS SUPPOSED TO BE.

dIMITRIS ON BOARD aLMA lIBRE PRESENTLY IN cAPRI iTALY

-----Original Message-----
From: Anne-Sophie Schmitt [mailto:nearlynothing@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maamu 2000


If you have any growth on the folding prop or if it
doesn't deploy completely every time you will not be
able to get RPM up. Have you assured yourself the prop
deploys correctly?
--- pagandaisy <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "elenaxara" <dkra@p...>
wrote:
Dear All,

I am right now in Italy in the wonderfull island
of Ponza but I am
facing serious problem with my new super Maramu
Alma LIbre. I am
continuing loosing the throtle controll so
practically when I start
the Yanmar engine I am not sure that I can
increase the revolutions
of the engine due to a mysterious problem. Amel
changed my new
gearbox with their excellent after sale team in
Ajaccio but after
sailing in Bonifacio and Sardinia the problem
continues. We have
checked the Morse cabling and could not find any
problem any idea
anybody.

Have you tried to advance the RPMs at the engine
instead of at the
Morse throttle control? If you haven't and the
engine builds up RPMs
when you try the problem is at the Morse or in the
cable. Arnold


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: main sheet traveler winch

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Mr. Lambertsen,

Use, age, and exposure to the elements gradually lessens the "grip" the line
for the main sheet traveler can provide. New "Fuzzy" line will do wonders.
In any case, you must unload the main sheet to move the traveler in anything
more than a light breeze. The traveler winch on the Super Maramu is
marginally stronger but not much.

To improve the performance, one client put two self tailing winches, one at
port and starboard, to crank the traveler up and down. He admitted later
that it was a waste of money.

Replace the line and I bet you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Best Regards,
Joel F. Potter
Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas


Re: main sheet traveler winch

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

My understanding is that sheet travelers, be they for the main or the
headsail, are not supposed to be adjusted while there is pressure on
the sheet. You are expected to release the tension on the sheet
before adjusting the traveller. Let see what Joel will say.--- In
amelyachtowners@y..., davidlambertsen <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hello, les Amels...I sail Maramu #258, built in 1989. The winch
for
the main sheet traveler is under the dodger on the starboard side.
The line always jams up in this winch when I try to move the
traveler.

I have tightened the line leading into the winch, but it still
stretches and jams. Soon, I will replace the line with a low
stretch
line. Currently, I cannot adjust the traveler with any force on
the
main sheet.

My questions are these: Has anyone replaced this winch with a
better
design, perhaps supplied by Amel, that does not jam or pinch the
line?
Does this problem persist on the Super Maramu? Has anyone solved
this problem?

Joel Potter, any suggestions? Merci a tout.

David Lambertsen
s/v Have Fun!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maamu 2000

Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
 

If you have any growth on the folding prop or if it
doesn't deploy completely every time you will not be
able to get RPM up. Have you assured yourself the prop
deploys correctly?
--- pagandaisy <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "elenaxara" <dkra@p...>
wrote:
Dear All,

I am right now in Italy in the wonderfull island
of Ponza but I am
facing serious problem with my new super Maramu
Alma LIbre. I am
continuing loosing the throtle controll so
practically when I start
the Yanmar engine I am not sure that I can
increase the revolutions
of the engine due to a mysterious problem. Amel
changed my new
gearbox with their excellent after sale team in
Ajaccio but after
sailing in Bonifacio and Sardinia the problem
continues. We have
checked the Morse cabling and could not find any
problem any idea
anybody.

Have you tried to advance the RPMs at the engine
instead of at the
Morse throttle control? If you haven't and the
engine builds up RPMs
when you try the problem is at the Morse or in the
cable. Arnold


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main sheet traveler winch

davidlambertsen <no_reply@...>
 

Hello, les Amels...I sail Maramu #258, built in 1989. The winch for
the main sheet traveler is under the dodger on the starboard side.
The line always jams up in this winch when I try to move the traveler.

I have tightened the line leading into the winch, but it still
stretches and jams. Soon, I will replace the line with a low stretch
line. Currently, I cannot adjust the traveler with any force on the
main sheet.

My questions are these: Has anyone replaced this winch with a better
design, perhaps supplied by Amel, that does not jam or pinch the line?
Does this problem persist on the Super Maramu? Has anyone solved
this problem?

Joel Potter, any suggestions? Merci a tout.

David Lambertsen
s/v Have Fun!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maamu 2000

Dimitrios Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

Dear Arnold,

Thanks for the reply. We have increased the rpm from the engine and it
works fine . We have dismanteled the Morse and checked the cables and
found no fault. The problem is that the problem we are facing is not
systematic. It happens some times and ofcource according to the Murphy;s
law the wosrst moments when anchoring or mooring. What can be a problem
with the cable that sometimes work and sometimes no we are desperate.

Best Regards

Dimitris on board ALMA LIBRE

-----Original Message-----
From: pagandaisy [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maamu 2000


--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "elenaxara" <dkra@p...> wrote:
Dear All,

I am right now in Italy in the wonderfull island of Ponza but I am
facing serious problem with my new super Maramu Alma LIbre. I am
continuing loosing the throtle controll so practically when I start
the Yanmar engine I am not sure that I can increase the revolutions
of the engine due to a mysterious problem. Amel changed my new
gearbox with their excellent after sale team in Ajaccio but after
sailing in Bonifacio and Sardinia the problem continues. We have
checked the Morse cabling and could not find any problem any idea
anybody.

Have you tried to advance the RPMs at the engine instead of at the
Morse throttle control? If you haven't and the engine builds up RPMs
when you try the problem is at the Morse or in the cable. Arnold


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Re: Super Maamu 2000

pagandaisy <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., "elenaxara" <dkra@p...> wrote:
Dear All,

I am right now in Italy in the wonderfull island of Ponza but I am
facing serious problem with my new super Maramu Alma LIbre. I am
continuing loosing the throtle controll so practically when I start
the Yanmar engine I am not sure that I can increase the revolutions
of the engine due to a mysterious problem. Amel changed my new
gearbox with their excellent after sale team in Ajaccio but after
sailing in Bonifacio and Sardinia the problem continues. We have
checked the Morse cabling and could not find any problem any idea
anybody.

Have you tried to advance the RPMs at the engine instead of at the
Morse throttle control? If you haven't and the engine builds up RPMs
when you try the problem is at the Morse or in the cable. Arnold


Super Maamu 2000

elenaxara <dkra@...>
 

Dear All,

I am right now in Italy in the wonderfull island of Ponza but I am
facing serious problem with my new super Maramu Alma LIbre. I am
continuing loosing the throtle controll so practically when I start
the Yanmar engine I am not sure that I can increase the revolutions
of the engine due to a mysterious problem. Amel changed my new
gearbox with their excellent after sale team in Ajaccio but after
sailing in Bonifacio and Sardinia the problem continues. We have
checked the Morse cabling and could not find any problem any idea
anybody.