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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

Ian Park
 

Eric
Wow! Adds proof to the Amel recipe. It also demonstrates how well engineered the Amel rigging is. How many other boats surfing at that speed with that sail area would have kept their masts in place on impact?
Other than a submarine I can't imagine anything bigger to hit!
Thanks for posting - it's these real time episodes that help us all make good decisions.

Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

rossirossix4
 

Hi Mohammad,
Regarding a portable bilge pump we can show you what we have.  I had a high capacity 24V pump aboard from the previous owner and decided it would be good to make use of it. *For the reasons owners have posted it was not high on my list but since I had the expensive part, why not?  Management of a rigid intake hose, longer output hose, and 24V cord are all issues.  I came up with a design using a thin board with integrated handle, and a hour glass shape for managing the hoses and electrical cord.  The nylon cord that holds everything together can also be used to secure the pump in operation.  I think the suction hose was at least 1.5 meters, output hose 5 meters, and a 10 meter electrical cord with alligator clips.  The output hose can be a thin collapsible lightweight type hose that saves space. The carpenter at Yacht Marin in Turkey made me the board for $7USD!!!, and so for the cost of a switch, hoses we have a handy, organized, and compact unit that we hope never to use.  Many of us carry a spare bilge pump around anyway, so here is an idea. Sorry you can't see the switch but it is a waterproof push pull mounted near the pump and the 24V cord with alligator clips is also there  https://www.dropbox.com/sc/xkgm3urt583wqzx/AAAHNL0aoLQ0aYM5SMruLZrqa

Bob, KAIMI SM 429
 *Then again there was that incident back in 2004 where my son forgot he was filling the water tank on our Santorin and the tank access panel was open for cleaning....
 


Removing the damn Vetus coupling

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Mark,

Yes, I forgot to write just that, as long as you leave, you can come back and are given another month.
Not worth 5% !!!

I should have written for information, for non-BVI flag, after 1 month, you have to pay a temporary import permit which is valid for 1 year, I paid around $200 for it.

Sincerely Alexandre



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On Tue, 4/25/17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017, 11:52 AM


 

















Alexandre,


 

Thanks!!!! Good
to know. We will adjust our plans accordingly. I guess we
will have to hop back
to USVI after a short stent in the BVI. We have a pending
inquiry into HM
Customs about this very thing. Being influenced by the
Brits, it will probably
take them year, or two, to get to the email. Not sure that
any port of call is
worth a 5% levee on the boat.



 

With best
regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty
cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us




 





From:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]

Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:23 PM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Registration





 

 







Hello Mark,



Yes I am. This is what the customs told me in Tortola.

I was BVI registered and arrived in Tortola Oct 31st, I had
1 month "free
stay" if exceeding, would have to pay 5% import tax
(not 10% as I wrote).

My plan was to change to a St Martin (french) flag anyway.




Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 4/25/17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017, 10:35 AM





 



































Alexandre,





 



Are you sure

about the one month for a BVI flagged boat? Do you have a

source for more

information?



 



 



 







 



With best

regards,



 



Mark



 



Skipper



Sailing Vessel

- Cream Puff



www.creampuff.us


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Mark Erdos
 

Alexandre,

 

Thanks!!!! Good to know. We will adjust our plans accordingly. I guess we will have to hop back to USVI after a short stent in the BVI. We have a pending inquiry into HM Customs about this very thing. Being influenced by the Brits, it will probably take them year, or two, to get to the email. Not sure that any port of call is worth a 5% levee on the boat.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

 

 

Hello Mark,

Yes I am. This is what the customs told me in Tortola.
I was BVI registered and arrived in Tortola Oct 31st, I had 1 month "free stay" if exceeding, would have to pay 5% import tax (not 10% as I wrote).
My plan was to change to a St Martin (french) flag anyway.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 4/25/17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017, 10:35 AM


 

















Alexandre,


 

Are you sure
about the one month for a BVI flagged boat? Do you have a
source for more
information?

 

 

 



 

With best
regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us




 





From:
amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:03 AM

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Registration





 

 







Good morning Rafael,



When I had a BVI flag I use Mark Dubois:
mark.dubois@...



Keep in mind, with a BVI flag you are only allow to sail for
1 month in the BVI
past that you will have to import your vessel (and pay 10%
tax).



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 4/20/17, rcavie
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 1:42 PM





 



















Hello everyoneDoes anyone have

information or references from any law firm or specialist
to

register a yacht in BVI?

Thank

youRafael SM k2 246
































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Mark,

Yes I am. This is what the customs told me in Tortola.
I was BVI registered and arrived in Tortola Oct 31st, I had 1 month "free stay" if exceeding, would have to pay 5% import tax (not 10% as I wrote).
My plan was to change to a St Martin (french) flag anyway.

Sincerely, Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 4/25/17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017, 10:35 AM


 

















Alexandre,


 

Are you sure
about the one month for a BVI flagged boat? Do you have a
source for more
information?

 

 

 



 

With best
regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us




 





From:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]

Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:03 AM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Registration





 

 







Good morning Rafael,



When I had a BVI flag I use Mark Dubois:
mark.dubois@abm.vg



Keep in mind, with a BVI flag you are only allow to sail for
1 month in the BVI
past that you will have to import your vessel (and pay 10%
tax).



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 4/20/17, rcavie <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 1:42 PM





 



















Hello everyoneDoes anyone have

information or references from any law firm or specialist
to

register a yacht in BVI?

Thank

youRafael SM k2 246
































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Increasing fuel capacity - Maramu #178

John Clark
 

Thanks Ric,  have the same set up with fixed prop.  Cool how it carries almost full liad when sailing.

On Apr 24, 2017 5:12 PM, "Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

John,

My three blade prop is free wheeling and not put in gear unless motoring. So for me it is use it or lose it for charging.  Works fine, knock on faux teak .Just keep the oil in and water out.

Ric Gottschalk

SN24 Bali Hai

Annapolis

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 12:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Increasing fuel capacity - Maramu #178

 

 

Nice Ric,

   I too have the prop generator.  Have you had any issues with additional wear on the c drive,  or transmission?

 

John Clark

Vent de Soleil  SM 37

Simpson Bay SXM

 

On Apr 24, 2017 12:15 PM, "Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I can recount many voyages where fuel was a worry. Most, however, were deliveries trying to get from A-B in the shortest time. Most notable was a Palmer 72 with twin 120HP engines plus generator which required a Gale to sail We motored from Cape Verde (fuel stop) to Barbados.

But you and I have an Amel. To answer your question, I don’t like fuel or anything on deck and have stowed fuel in the aft lazerette of my Santorin. I did add 2-35gal aux. tanks in the stern. Both have separate fills and a two way  fuel transfer pump in the engine room. Slick. Out of trim? Yes, for awhile, but beats hustling jerry cans.  I don’t miss the space. Gave many cans away. Bottom line is that I did not need that much fuel. I also have the prop generator. I also found that if you buy several cases of cheap rum in Tortola and stow it in the v-berth it trims out the boat nicely for the trip back to Annapolis.

Ric Gottschalk
SN 24 Bali Hai

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 10:32 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Increasing fuel capacity - Maramu #178

 

 

Thanks for your comments Ian. The previous owner mentioned they used very little fuel on their last pacific crossing as the prop-driven alternator kept the batteries topped up.

 

By comparison our future travel plans will take us to some places where extended motoring is likely or necessary on occasions. I also prefer to keep the deck and lockers clear of jerries.

 

The question is where do you put the extra fuel without upsetting the trim of the boat or taking up other valuable storage space. I initially thought of sacrificing some of the freshwater storage capacity with a transfer pump to the main tank. I haven't heard yet how other Maramu owners have addressed this issue.

 

 

 


Re: Amel Buyers

Dave_Benjamin
 

This isn't a place for brokers to solicit listings. You could certainly encourage your clients who have listed their boats with you to mention that they're selling and post your contact info. But don't troll for listings. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Mark Erdos
 

Alexandre,

 

Are you sure about the one month for a BVI flagged boat? Do you have a source for more information?

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:03 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

 

 

Good morning Rafael,

When I had a BVI flag I use Mark Dubois: mark.dubois@...

Keep in mind, with a BVI flag you are only allow to sail for 1 month in the BVI past that you will have to import your vessel (and pay 10% tax).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA

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On Thu, 4/20/17, rcavie
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 1:42 PM


 









Hello everyoneDoes anyone have
information or references from any law firm or specialist to
register a yacht in BVI?
Thank
youRafael SM k2 246




Re: Removing the damn Vetus coupling

Craig Briggs
 

Necessity is indeed the mother of invention - great job.
Cheers, Craig SN#68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Using 2 cans of

PB blaster and a lot of use of wedges and a small sledge hammer, I succeeded in accomplishing nothing.

Before setting the

gearbox on fire, I made a set of 4 bolts with nuts that pushed against the transmission and went through the holes in the coupling. After 6 hours of wrenching the coupling finally came off. I will post photos when I get home.

 

The transmission shaft measures 35.00-35.03 mm. The coupling also measures 35.00 mm.

    

DUHHHH 

The alignment adapter also measures 35.00 mm as of today. tomorrow we will have them turned a little bigger. I will also have the disgusting disk for the brake remade out of stainless,

The rest hopefully will be easy.

Fair winds,

Eric

Sm 376 kimberlite

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Rafael,

When I had a BVI flag I use Mark Dubois: mark.dubois@abm.vg

Keep in mind, with a BVI flag you are only allow to sail for 1 month in the BVI past that you will have to import your vessel (and pay 10% tax).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA





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On Thu, 4/20/17, rcavie <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Registration
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 1:42 PM


 









Hello everyoneDoes anyone have
information or references from any law firm or specialist to
register a yacht in BVI?
Thank
youRafael SM k2 246


Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

Dennis Campbell
 

Thanks for reminding me about flexible tanks Eric. I put two 50 gal bladders in the stern of a Jeanneau DS43 I used to own. Only ever half filled them due to my concern that surging in a rough seaway would cause the fittings to fail.


Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

Ian Park
 

I find that Bill Rouse has again made the points I had buzzing round my head.
A first question should be how many Amels have been holed and how? If so where was the breach? Then how serious was the effect.
I think that on other production boat sinkings, the keel is one area for serious impact damage. I can't imagine what could do that amount of damage to an Amel keel at the speed I sail.
Frontal impact with a container. Again I can't imagine the damage being too significant further aft than the anchor locker.
Groundings? Probably close enough to shore to beach or reach port.
I think Henri thought it all out before us - it's why I bought an Amel.

Ian

Ocean Hobo. SN96


Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks every one for all the responses and suggestions. Not changing the system, is what I have been leaning towards. I am a very strong believer of keeping it original and have not made any changes for the past 2 years that we have owned her. 

The one intriguing suggestion was the potable honda pump. Honda makes a GX25 4-stroke with a 25CC engine that weighs 14 pounds and pumps 2200 GPH.

Thanks again for sharing your opinions.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099





Re: Deck restoration question

jjjk12s@...
 

There's a picture on the internet I've seen of an old Maramu deck redone with a composite teak look material. It's probably not too hard to find with Google To me it doesn't look right, a bit too sharp. It also is unecessary weight and shows up the other older parts of the vessel in stark contrast.

 

Treadmaster is great on a cold climate boat where the diamond pattern is good grip for boots. In tropical weather there can be issues unless it is glued expertly and even then can lift at the edges - and the diamond pattern is hard on bare feet. Not sure how effective the smoother pattern is.

 

I would say it's best to only re-do the deck if it's really necessary, and it's hard to improve on the painted method. Ideally it would keep cream stripes and preferably the colour matched to original but slightly paler, although most painted deck old Amels seem to use an overall cream colour to save time and reduce heat retention.

 

Regards

John Maramu #91, Popeye 


Re: Maramu mainsail furling issues

Jacob Champness
 

So I disengaged the furling motor and was able to manually furl in the last little bit just as you said, Olivier, thanks! Now to sort out cleaning the brushes and finding the breakers and all that. I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for all the help!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Deck restoration question

Grover Cleveland <thegrovitron@...>
 

Hay thank you Craig, now I have a much clearer picture of the topic. Sorry about the name mix up, "Christopher" is my formal name, Grover is my middle name and Grover is what I normally use. I will pay closer attention to not miss represent in the future 👍. 


On Apr 24, 2017, at 12:43, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Christopher (or is it Grover Cleveland?),

Good that you will be learning more about Amels. The deck is not a separate material. It is the fiberglass of the deck structure with the gelcoat textured by the mold. Hence, it is not something one can replace.
Craig, SN68


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Removing the damn Vetus coupling

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Eric

Having done this numerous times here is some info.

Use wedges to move the coupling. Start small and use a 5lg sledge hammer. tap tap and rotate the coupling. Takes about 2 hrs and a lot of sweat in the sauna. It slowly starts to move and used a larger wedge. Takes time

Paul & Sue LaFrance

Former owners of NOMAD SM #362




From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 4:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Removing the damn Vetus coupling
 
 

Using 2 cans of

PB blaster and a lot of use of wedges and a small sledge hammer, I succeeded in accomplishing nothing.

Before setting the

gearbox on fire, I made a set of 4 bolts with nuts that pushed against the transmission and went through the holes in the coupling. After 6 hours of wrenching the coupling finally came off. I will post photos when I get home.

 

The transmission shaft measures 35.00-35.03 mm. The coupling also measures 35.00 mm.

    

DUHHHH 

The alignment adapter also measures 35.00 mm as of today. tomorrow we will have them turned a little bigger. I will also have the disgusting disk for the brake remade out of stainless,

The rest hopefully will be easy.

Fair winds,

Eric

Sm 376 kimberlite