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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raymarine A3G AST -Drive Stopped

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

The voltage on the clutch connection on the S3G reads 12.9volts.  That seems good.  The "Power" connections are 24.5 volts.  The "Motor" wires (next to the "Power" wires and connected by screw lugs) reads 0.0V.

I had the instruments all turned on (the three breakers on the 24V panel)  For good measure I also turned on the "Instrument" breaker in the hanging closet, and the PG500 and Hydra, although that should make no difference.

If the "Motor" is not getting power, then I would think I have an issue with the S3G???

I'm going to look at the connections to be sure there isn't some corrosion.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Trinquet furling motor grease

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Porter
I think you have the Balmar Furling System ? Correct? If so, with you plans , change this system to a Reckman System; ok very costy ,but for the next 20 Years no problems.
Nice and interesting Website, congratulation. One thing only; Henri Amel did not design the Amel 54. The Company Amel with extern architects did it.
Best regards
Hanspeter


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Am 29.04.2017 um 12:36 schrieb Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Gents,
A question if you would.

Sailing Martinique to Fort Lauderdale these two weeks. Stopped in Guadeloupe as the trinquet motor pooped out. Took it out and amel Martinique is sending a new one plus belt.

Question one: what kind of grease was that packed in there? I took it out and need to repack.

Q2: the motor had corroded and I found 10 or so cc of h20 on the motor and surrounds. I could not find a seal to replace or one that had failed. How can I mitigate this water situation in the future? Is that the purpose of the grease? In addition to greasing the gears?

Q3: anyone have any tips on re-assembly?

Very appreciated.

Porter

S/V IBIS. 54-152. Punta Cana.

Please excuse the errors.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raymarine A3G AST -Drive Stopped

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane, 

The reason I want you to go through the "drill" on the voltage, is because it is important. 

Raymarine only makes 12VDC clutches which means your Raymarine 24VDC drive has 12VDC clutches.

There is a clutch fuse on the S3. It has to be inserted into the "12v" slots, not the "24v" slots. Check where the fuse is inserted and check the condition of the fuse. If the fuse is in the wrong slot, chances are your clutches are damaged. If it is in the correct slot and the fuse is good...and the rudder reference is good and mechanically connected good, it is likely that a component of the S3G needs replacing.  I like to use a guy in Colorado for anything Raymarine. Dan Gerhard C250"at"mydurango.net. Other owners have also used Dan as a Raymarine trusted source. He ships worldwide. 

I bought from Dan a refurbished S3G and 7001 control head, and a new fluxgate compass, and rudder reference. My plan was to sell them on eBay when we sold the boat. My thinking was that the difference in purchase and selling prices would be rent. Dan told me that the most probable failures would be the rudder reference and the fluxgate. My experience was opposite which just goes to prove that anything can happen. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Apr 28, 2017 19:44, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,


I'll try to answer your 12v/24v question in the morning.  Thanks for the tip.

The rudder reference seems to be working, based on observation of the Raymarine Control Head (that's the name of the autopilot device at the helm station I believe).  It does indicate the rudder position.  I'll visually check that it seems in good condition though.

Thanks,
Duane



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Trinquet furling motor grease

John Clark
 

Hi Porter,
   that is a bummer on the motor.  I am not familiar with the the triniquet furler, that must be a "54" feature.  If the water inside the housing was fresh water the old motor might be recoverable.  I know you don't want to mess around with it right now, but I would hold onto it and see if a shop can clean it up.  It would make a great on-board spare.  

Will Jean Collin send a "care package" with grease  along with the replacement motor?   I am sure you are spending a few euro on the replacment....seems like he could add a tube of grease.

                    Regards,   John

Vent de Soleil SM 37
Phillipsburg St. Maarten 





On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Gents,
A question if you would.

Sailing Martinique to Fort Lauderdale these two weeks. Stopped in Guadeloupe as the trinquet motor pooped out. Took it out and amel Martinique is sending a new one plus belt.

Question one: what kind of grease was that packed in there? I took it out and need to repack.

Q2: the motor had corroded and I found 10 or so cc of h20 on the motor and surrounds. I could not find a seal to replace or one that had failed. How can I mitigate this water situation in the future? Is that the purpose of the grease? In addition to greasing the gears?

Q3: anyone have any tips on re-assembly?

Very appreciated.

Porter

S/V IBIS. 54-152. Punta Cana.

Please excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com



Trinquet furling motor grease

Porter McRoberts
 

Gents,
A question if you would.

Sailing Martinique to Fort Lauderdale these two weeks. Stopped in Guadeloupe as the trinquet motor pooped out. Took it out and amel Martinique is sending a new one plus belt.

Question one: what kind of grease was that packed in there? I took it out and need to repack.

Q2: the motor had corroded and I found 10 or so cc of h20 on the motor and surrounds. I could not find a seal to replace or one that had failed. How can I mitigate this water situation in the future? Is that the purpose of the grease? In addition to greasing the gears?

Q3: anyone have any tips on re-assembly?

Very appreciated.

Porter

S/V IBIS. 54-152. Punta Cana.

Please excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu mainsail furling issues [1 Attachment]

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Jacob,

The piece looks like it is made of some fiberglass material. The upper aluminum piece has a hole drilled in it. Possibly AMEL put the fiberglass thing in place so if there was too much torque on the device it would break away and it was pinned in place through the hole in the upper piece—just a guess.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu mainsail furling issues [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Got it sorted, mostly.  

 

It turned out that as you all said, it was the breakers.  They're located in the companionway on this boat.  And now I know what "mat" and "bome" mean!  Thanks, Eric and Olivier, for helping me understand why I would hear a solenoid even when the breakers were off.

 

Now here's a puzzle: When I disengaged the furling motor to manually furl in the last little bit of the main the other day, I found a weird little broken piece of some kind of pressed material taking the torque from the furling motor to the furling unit (photo attached).  This must not be original equipment, right?  Could I maybe replace it with just a little block of aluminum or something?  

 

Jacob Champness

Maramu 202 - Lark

St. Martin

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

Eric Freedman
 

Bill,

My friend Eric Forsythe has circumnavigated twice –(both ways) circumnavigated the Antarctic.

Twice and numerous passages totaling over 325,000 miles and is going out again in July at age 85 on his home made yacht Fiona. (CCA Blue water Recipient). I don’t believe he ever had more than 120 gallons on board.

 

I also recall him sailing 20 miles a day for many days on the equator a few years ago.

 

Me personally I will turn on the motor.

 

When I referred to Bermuda, I was speaking about the Bermuda high that usually is good for 3-5 days of no wind.

Of course if I were in Bermuda I would stay and wait for wind.

We usually pass Bermuda 175-200 miles east or west of Bermuda. Have sailed by that island I think 32 times.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

 

 

Thanks Eric,

 

Also thanks to Ann-Sofie and Bill R. for their insights on fuel usage.  It was all useful and has an important place in my knowledge base.

 

In Eric's comments I see the magic word: "schedule."  If you have a "must do" schedule, then fuel is a required ingredient. You say you always "come in with 600 liters of fuel".  Do remember, that's almost over half a tonne of weight.  I know people who sail larger boats tend to not think about weight very much, but that is adding 3% to the sailing weight of the boat and that DOES have a real impact on light air performance, especially if it puts the boat off her lines.

 

We avoid schedules like the plague.  We tell people who are sailing with us  that we can tell you WHERE we will meet you, or WHEN we will meet you, but not BOTH.

 

It's not good or bad, everybody travels in their own style. but here are two examples of why I feel the built in tankage is more than adequate for MY needs.  Your mileage WILL vary!

 

When I was sailing from Hawaii to San Francisco I COULD have loaded up with fuel and motored on a rumb line though the middle of the East Pacific High.  I know several people who have done it that way. Instead I sailed close-hauled north, then reached east, then ran south to stay in the wind, and out of the high pressure system. Hundreds of miles out of the way, and an extra 5 days or so at sea, but there wasn't a schedule to meet.  All that AND we waited a week for the weather in Honolulu, so I guess you could argue that we were two weeks late because we were light on fuel, but we didn't think of it in those terms. 

 

As an aside, after a wild and windy passage, we did need to start the engine for the last 10 miles, because we ran out of wind coming in the Golden Gate--how strange that one of the most reliably windy places around failed us!

 

If we were in Bermuda and had a week of calms forecast, we would just stay put until the weather allowed a comfortable passage. We have waited 2 weeks for a good weather window to go 200 miles--because we can. Kind of an old fashioned approach, but we do have the luxury of not having a schedule imposed on us from the outside world, and we work very hard not to set one for ourselves.  The very idea of listening to the engine run for days at a time makes my head hurt!

 

Again, thanks to all for their input!

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Charlotte Amelie, StT, USVI



---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

WE carry a lot of fuel on kimberlite as some of my crew have work schedules and it is necessary to make an airport on time.

We crossed the Atlantic on just the main tank.

Other times we have had to motor extensively around the Bermuda high.

Heading from Colombia last year to Guadeloupe we used a lot of fuel.

 

In my last boat there was no wind for 6 days and I motored from Bermuda to New York.

 

I have always come in with around 600 liters of fuel. But better than 0 liters.

I have only filled the tank on the aft cabin top 2 times in 15 years. And did not need it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

Eric Freedman
 

A check valve in a bilge pump hose is just one more thing to get clogged in an emergency.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 6:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

 

 

Eric,

Thanks for you reply. I understand and agree.

Now there is a question about a check valve in the bilge pump hose. On my SM #345 there is a check valve on the bilge pump hose.  Bilge pump does not work if check valve failed open.
On my previous boat I have had a check valve on the bilge pump hose.
I don't see a problem with that. Please explain why you see a problem with a check valve.

Vladimir
SM #345
LIFE IS GOOD

On Apr 28, 2017 1:40 AM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>  
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> I believe ABYC says you must have separate hoses and through hulls for each pump. IN addition what would prevent having the water coming from one hose going back into the boat? You would also not want to put a check valve in a bilge pump hose.
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>  
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> I have an EDSON manual crash pump I believe it is rated at 1 gallon a stroke. It is mounted on a board with a long intake and exhaust hose. In an emergency I would just dump the water in the cockpit. The scuppers are more than sufficient to remove any water in the cockpit.
>
>  
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> I don’t know if you ever had a cockpit full of water but it drains in less than 30 seconds.
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>  
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> Remember the old adage noting bails water faster than a frightened man with a bucket.
>
> Fair Winds
>
> Eric
>
> Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
>
>  
>
> From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 6:51 PM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity
>
>  
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>  
>
> How do you suggest to run the outlet hose? Is it OK to tee off from the manual pamp?
>
> Vladimir Sonsev
> Tel/Text: 202 258 1916
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>  
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 4:09 PM, "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
> A mobile unattached Rule type submersible pump with a long lead with crocodile clips and a fairly long semi rigid outlet hose makes a good back up.
>
>  
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> John Maramu, #91 Popeye
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>  
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

greatketch@...
 

Thanks Eric,

Also thanks to Ann-Sofie and Bill R. for their insights on fuel usage.  It was all useful and has an important place in my knowledge base.

In Eric's comments I see the magic word: "schedule."  If you have a "must do" schedule, then fuel is a required ingredient. You say you always "come in with 600 liters of fuel".  Do remember, that's almost over half a tonne of weight.  I know people who sail larger boats tend to not think about weight very much, but that is adding 3% to the sailing weight of the boat and that DOES have a real impact on light air performance, especially if it puts the boat off her lines.

We avoid schedules like the plague.  We tell people who are sailing with us  that we can tell you WHERE we will meet you, or WHEN we will meet you, but not BOTH.

It's not good or bad, everybody travels in their own style. but here are two examples of why I feel the built in tankage is more than adequate for MY needs.  Your mileage WILL vary!

When I was sailing from Hawaii to San Francisco I COULD have loaded up with fuel and motored on a rumb line though the middle of the East Pacific High.  I know several people who have done it that way. Instead I sailed close-hauled north, then reached east, then ran south to stay in the wind, and out of the high pressure system. Hundreds of miles out of the way, and an extra 5 days or so at sea, but there wasn't a schedule to meet.  All that AND we waited a week for the weather in Honolulu, so I guess you could argue that we were two weeks late because we were light on fuel, but we didn't think of it in those terms. 

As an aside, after a wild and windy passage, we did need to start the engine for the last 10 miles, because we ran out of wind coming in the Golden Gate--how strange that one of the most reliably windy places around failed us!

If we were in Bermuda and had a week of calms forecast, we would just stay put until the weather allowed a comfortable passage. We have waited 2 weeks for a good weather window to go 200 miles--because we can. Kind of an old fashioned approach, but we do have the luxury of not having a schedule imposed on us from the outside world, and we work very hard not to set one for ourselves.  The very idea of listening to the engine run for days at a time makes my head hurt!

Again, thanks to all for their input!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charlotte Amelie, StT, USVI


---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

WE carry a lot of fuel on kimberlite as some of my crew have work schedules and it is necessary to make an airport on time.

We crossed the Atlantic on just the main tank.

Other times we have had to motor extensively around the Bermuda high.

Heading from Colombia last year to Guadeloupe we used a lot of fuel.

 

In my last boat there was no wind for 6 days and I motored from Bermuda to New York.

 

I have always come in with around 600 liters of fuel. But better than 0 liters.

I have only filled the tank on the aft cabin top 2 times in 15 years. And did not need it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

  


Re: Raymarine A3G AST -Drive Stopped

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

I'll try to answer your 12v/24v question in the morning.  Thanks for the tip.

The rudder reference seems to be working, based on observation of the Raymarine Control Head (that's the name of the autopilot device at the helm station I believe).  It does indicate the rudder position.  I'll visually check that it seems in good condition though.

Thanks,
Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine A3G AST -Drive Stopped

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

If you have an actuator failure, it coul be a belt failure in the actuator.  Better to carry a spare belt. You can get it from Raymarine.
But a wider belt is available on line. I believe it is made by Gates Power Belts in England.  It is metric belt. You can buy a wider belt and cut it to the required width.

Also it could be motor brushes.
You have to clean actuator inside and install new motor brushes.

I belive you can buy actuator spair parts on Ebay.

Vladimir Sonsev
SM #345
LIFE IS GOOD


On Apr 28, 2017 6:07 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Duane,

It could be a number of different things and possibly a combination...let me list the possibilities in the order of probability for the error message "DRIVESTOP," AND getting the same message with either drive:
  1. The Raymarine rudder reference device has stopped working and needs to be replaced
  2. The Raymarine rudder reference device has become mechanically challenged...either loose or disconnected.
  3. The S3G has a malfunction
If you only had one drive I would also list #4 as the Raymarine clutch inside your Raymarine drive is no longer working.

Take a moment and you tell me whether your clutches (both the linear and the rotary drive clutches) are getting 12VDC or 24VDC power...also tell me how this is switched from 12 to 24, and how you verified it.

If anyone else is reading this thread, you may also want to check the voltage to your Raymarine drive because even if you have a 24VDC drive, the clutch is 12VDC.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970






On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:27 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

My Autopilot isn't working.  I get a message labeled "Drive Stopped" on the helm station control panel.  It will not respond to +10 or -10.  


I tried both the galley and rudder mechanics and get the same message so it's probably the "SmartPilot".   I checked the fuses and they all test good.  


Any thoughts?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Eric,

Thanks for you reply. I understand and agree.

Now there is a question about a check valve in the bilge pump hose. On my SM #345 there is a check valve on the bilge pump hose.  Bilge pump does not work if check valve failed open.
On my previous boat I have had a check valve on the bilge pump hose.
I don't see a problem with that. Please explain why you see a problem with a check valve.

Vladimir
SM #345
LIFE IS GOOD

On Apr 28, 2017 1:40 AM, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>

>  
>
> I believe ABYC says you must have separate hoses and through hulls for each pump. IN addition what would prevent having the water coming from one hose going back into the boat? You would also not want to put a check valve in a bilge pump hose.
>
>  
>
> I have an EDSON manual crash pump I believe it is rated at 1 gallon a stroke. It is mounted on a board with a long intake and exhaust hose. In an emergency I would just dump the water in the cockpit. The scuppers are more than sufficient to remove any water in the cockpit.
>
>  
>
> I don’t know if you ever had a cockpit full of water but it drains in less than 30 seconds.
>
>  
>
> Remember the old adage noting bails water faster than a frightened man with a bucket.
>
> Fair Winds
>
> Eric
>
> Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
>
>  
>
> From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 6:51 PM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adding Bilge area pumping Capacity
>
>  
>
>  
>
> How do you suggest to run the outlet hose? Is it OK to tee off from the manual pamp?
>
> Vladimir Sonsev
> Tel/Text: 202 258 1916
>
>  
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 4:09 PM, "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
> A mobile unattached Rule type submersible pump with a long lead with crocodile clips and a fairly long semi rigid outlet hose makes a good back up.
>
>  
>
> John Maramu, #91 Popeye
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

I haven’t replace them on this boat. On the fridge/freezer under the seats, I move the lower half of the lock down a little bit to make a better seal. This worked well.

 

Here is a link for a company have used in the past. www.Barefrigeration.com  and go to Custom Gaskets.  Find the profile you want and follow the measuring instructions and then order.  They have a quality product at a very reasonable price. 

 

Please let me know if you wind up doing the fridge (under the counter). I am thinking about doing ours. It is not a tight as it should be. I would like to know how the seal comes off and is installed. I haven’t looked at it very closely yet.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currenlty cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:36 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

 

 

I need to replace the seals on my two fridge/freezer boxes under the dinette seats. Has anyone found a suitable replacement for these?

Thanks,

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Currently New Orleans, headed for St Michaels, Maryland.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Apr 20, 2017, at 1:19 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ken,

 

I attempted to find a new magnetic fridge gasket, but found it nearly impossible. Had I sent the model number and serial number of the Frigoboat fridge to Coastal Climate Control (info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com), they would have queried Frigoboat in Italy and possibly they could have ordered it.

 

Here is what I found that solved my issue and the same thing for a number of other owners...even if you get a new gasket, you will need to follow this procedure:

  1. With the fridge door closed, use a dollar bill to determine the correct seal of the magnetic gasket. If the dollar bill can be moved freely anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet, the gasket is not sealing correctly.
  2. Is the external door lock adjusted correctly and is it in the locked position?
  3. Is the door aligned and adjusted correctly? 
  4. There are 3 bolts on each hinge, locking the hinge in place.
    1. Are they tight?
  1. Is the top of the door and side of the door parallel with the cabinet? This is the hardest thing to get right!
  2. Is the door flat against the cabinet on all sides? i.e. the door being "pulled in" or "pushed out" by either hing?
    1. If the door is not parallel or totally flat on all 4 sides against the door frame:
      1. Loosen all 6 bolts
      2. Press the door evenly so that all 4 sides are against the frame and the top and sides of the door are parallel with the cabinet. HINT: use some blue masking tape on the cabinet where the gasket meets the frame (thanks to Rick Grimes)...this will make parallel visibility easier in determining that the door is in the right position.
  1. Holding the door in position, tighten all 6 bolts. (This will test your patience)
  2. Test again using a dollar bill.
  3. Repeat the process if the dollar bill is loose anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet.

Also, you may want to completely remove the fridge to do this job and use a shop vac to clean the condenser fins, etc. If so, refer to this Photo Album: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=fridge#zax/albums_1556459704

 

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:43 AM, sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all,

 

I just joined the group, and was looking for some help with the Frigoboat Fridge.  Has anyone found a replacement door seal for the standard Frigoboat Dood Seal?

 

Any help would be appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

Ken Powers 

Aquarius, ASM2K Hull number 262

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine A3G AST -Drive Stopped

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

It could be a number of different things and possibly a combination...let me list the possibilities in the order of probability for the error message "DRIVESTOP," AND getting the same message with either drive:
  1. The Raymarine rudder reference device has stopped working and needs to be replaced
  2. The Raymarine rudder reference device has become mechanically challenged...either loose or disconnected.
  3. The S3G has a malfunction
If you only had one drive I would also list #4 as the Raymarine clutch inside your Raymarine drive is no longer working.

Take a moment and you tell me whether your clutches (both the linear and the rotary drive clutches) are getting 12VDC or 24VDC power...also tell me how this is switched from 12 to 24, and how you verified it.

If anyone else is reading this thread, you may also want to check the voltage to your Raymarine drive because even if you have a 24VDC drive, the clutch is 12VDC.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970






On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:27 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

My Autopilot isn't working.  I get a message labeled "Drive Stopped" on the helm station control panel.  It will not respond to +10 or -10.  


I tried both the galley and rudder mechanics and get the same message so it's probably the "SmartPilot".   I checked the fuses and they all test good.  


Any thoughts?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Fridge Door Seal for Super Maramu 2000

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I attempted to find a new magnetic fridge gasket, but found it nearly impossible. Had I sent the model number and serial number of the Frigoboat fridge to Coastal Climate Control (info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com), they would have queried Frigoboat in Italy and possibly they could have ordered it.

Here is what I found that solved my issue and the same thing for a number of other owners...even if you get a new gasket, you will need to follow this procedure:
1. With the fridge door closed, use a dollar bill to determine the correct seal of the magnetic gasket. If the dollar bill can be moved freely anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet, the gasket is not sealing correctly.
2. Is the external door lock adjusted correctly and is it in the locked position?
3. Is the door aligned and adjusted correctly?
4. There are 3 bolts on each hinge, locking the hinge in place.
1. Are they tight?
5. Is the top of the door and side of the door parallel with the cabinet? This is the hardest thing to get right!
6. Is the door flat against the cabinet on all sides? i.e. the door being "pulled in" or "pushed out" by either hinge?

If the door is not parallel or totally flat on all 4 sides against the door frame:
1. Loosen all 6 bolts
2. Press the door evenly so that all 4 sides are against the frame and the top and sides of the door are parallel with the cabinet. HINT: use some blue masking tape on the cabinet where the gasket meets the frame (thanks to Rick Grimes)...this will make parallel visibility easier in determining that the door is in the right position.
7. Holding the door in position, tighten all 6 bolts. (This will test your patience)
8. Test again using a dollar bill.
9. Repeat the process if the dollar bill is loose anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet.

Also, you may want to completely remove the fridge to do this job and use a shop vac to clean the condenser fins, etc. If so, refer to this Photo Album:

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
X-BeBe SM387






On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I need to replace the seals on my two fridge/freezer boxes under the dinette seats. Has anyone found a suitable replacement for these?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently New Orleans, headed for St Michaels, Maryland.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 20, 2017, at 1:19 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Ken,

I attempted to find a new magnetic fridge gasket, but found it nearly impossible. Had I sent the model number and serial number of the Frigoboat fridge to Coastal Climate Control (info"at"coastalclimatecontrol.com), they would have queried Frigoboat in Italy and possibly they could have ordered it.

Here is what I found that solved my issue and the same thing for a number of other owners...even if you get a new gasket, you will need to follow this procedure:
  1. With the fridge door closed, use a dollar bill to determine the correct seal of the magnetic gasket. If the dollar bill can be moved freely anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet, the gasket is not sealing correctly.
  2. Is the external door lock adjusted correctly and is it in the locked position?
  3. Is the door aligned and adjusted correctly? 
  4. There are 3 bolts on each hinge, locking the hinge in place.
    1. Are they tight?
  5. Is the top of the door and side of the door parallel with the cabinet? This is the hardest thing to get right!
  6. Is the door flat against the cabinet on all sides? i.e. the door being "pulled in" or "pushed out" by either hing?
    1. If the door is not parallel or totally flat on all 4 sides against the door frame:
      1. Loosen all 6 bolts
      2. Press the door evenly so that all 4 sides are against the frame and the top and sides of the door are parallel with the cabinet. HINT: use some blue masking tape on the cabinet where the gasket meets the frame (thanks to Rick Grimes)...this will make parallel visibility easier in determining that the door is in the right position.
  7. Holding the door in position, tighten all 6 bolts. (This will test your patience)
  8. Test again using a dollar bill.
  9. Repeat the process if the dollar bill is loose anywhere between the gasket and the cabinet.
Also, you may want to completely remove the fridge to do this job and use a shop vac to clean the condenser fins, etc. If so, refer to this Photo Album: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=fridge#zax/albums_1556459704

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970




On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:43 AM, sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

Hello all,


I just joined the group, and was looking for some help with the Frigoboat Fridge.  Has anyone found a replacement door seal for the standard Frigoboat Dood Seal?


Any help would be appreciated!


Thanks


Ken Powers 

Aquarius, ASM2K Hull number 262




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Deck restoration question

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Had my Santorin totally painted at Peakes in Trinidad. Primer, 2 coats of Awl Grip including the faux teak and stripes. They removed all the Lazarette covers and even painted the Dorades (have 6). Looked like new and still does after 7  years. Fabulous job at a ridiculously low cost. No issues with teak texture.

Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis  

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Deck restoration question

 

 

Kent,

 

Ideally 2 pack poly paint should have an undercoat of epoxy primer. You then may need two coats of colour. That amount of paint would fill in the texture too much. If you could getaway with very thinned paint or one fairly thin coat of paint then you may have enough texture for a grip but.......

 

Regards

John, Maramu #91 Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Rafael,

I attached a page out of my Amel book.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
X-BeBe SM387
Best

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:57 AM, rcavie <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello to all

I have sent several emails to Amel Caraibbes and have not answer by requesting the spare parts to avoid filtering water in my Bow thruster .. What can I do?

What parts I will need?

Thank you for your help!!

Rafael SM 2k 246




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

Eric Freedman
 

WE carry a lot of fuel on kimberlite as some of my crew have work schedules and it is necessary to make an airport on time.

We crossed the Atlantic on just the main tank.

Other times we have had to motor extensively around the Bermuda high.

Heading from Colombia last year to Guadeloupe we used a lot of fuel.

 

In my last boat there was no wind for 6 days and I motored from Bermuda to New York.

 

I have always come in with around 600 liters of fuel. But better than 0 liters.

I have only filled the tank on the aft cabin top 2 times in 15 years. And did not need it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:06 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.

 

 

A question for those people who carry large amounts of fuel above and beyond the standard tank on the Super Maramu:  Why do you do so?  Do you actually find you use that much, or is it just a comfort level to have a lot of excess?

 

How much fuel do you actually use on passage?  

How much at anchor? 

What rational do you apply for how much fuel to carry?  

 

Bill Kinney

SM#160, Harmonie

Charlotte Amalie, StT, USVI



---In amelyachtowners@..., <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote :

Wow Eric, that is a lot of fuel! We have the 600L in the main tank and 9 x 23L jerry cans (200L) which fit snugly in the liferaft locker. Those also get emptied first as our main tank uses fuel. We don't fill those unless we are headed on long ocean passages.

 

We finally completed installing the fuel polishing unit yesterday and also installed a T junction with 2.5m hose to suck fuel out of jerry cans along side. Just used it tonight to fill 500L of fuel from jerry cans.... what a pleasure!. So fast, quiet and not a drop spilt anywhere!

 

Next week we start heading up the east Australian coast towards Indonesia where we will be for four months. There are so many sorry stories of poor quality fuel there that we will put all fuel through the fuel polishing unit before it goes into our tank.

 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332

Brisbane

 

 

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have used Nauta bladders on a number of my boats. I feel the one to get is the more expensive one with built in straps and plumbing hardware already attached.

We use only one hose to fill and remove fuel from the tanks,
We pump fuel into a 5 gallon bucket and remove it using a Jabsco vane puppy pump
Fueling is a breeze and transferring fuel is equally easy.

 

Between the tank and the pump I have mounted a locking ball valve with a hose barb attached.

Then just attach the hose barb to the vane puppy and another hose to go from the pump to the main fuel tank..

 we stop pumping a number of times and reverse the pump , we call it burping the tank.

if you step on the tank vigorously a lot of air will come out into your 5 gallon bucket. we continue the process till we have 55 gallons in the tank. To remove fuel just reverse the process. when the tank is almost empty we hold it up in the air and get the last drops of fuel out of the tank.

when filling the tanks I also add some fuel preservative to the bucket to prevent any growth when the tank is empty.

 

 

The tank that is strapped to the cabin top rail is filled the same except gravity empties it.

 

we also use the vane pump to pump out auxiliary tanks in the life raft locker.

 

All of this fuel is pumped through the large Racor filter that I mentioned in another post that filters the fuel before it gets into the tank. (Thanks Ian and Judy)

Fair winds

Eris

sm 376 Kimberlite

Eris

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis@...  [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:58 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: kimberlite can carry 345 Gallons of diesel.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com

> Thanks for reminding me about flexible tanks Eric. I put two 50
> gal bladders in the stern of a Jeanneau DS43 I used to own. Only
> ever half filled them due to my concern that surging in a rough
> seaway would cause the fittings to fail.



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445


Re: Deck restoration question

jjjk12s@...
 

Kent,

 

Ideally 2 pack poly paint should have an undercoat of epoxy primer. You then may need two coats of colour. That amount of paint would fill in the texture too much. If you could getaway with very thinned paint or one fairly thin coat of paint then you may have enough texture for a grip but.......

 

Regards

John, Maramu #91 Popeye


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck restoration question

John Clark
 

Hi Kent,  
   I too am looking into the deck restoration project.  I have ready many of the posts from Joel and Bill R. on how to accomplish the projects and I discussed it with several Amel owners in Le Marin.   My boat is an early run (1990) and I have the issue where the raised light sand colored portion of the gelcoat has worn down to the white gelcoat.  It gives the decks the appearance of having been inartfully painted with a brush.  I suspect that a fair bit of the texture has been worn down too.  I would like to clean up these worn areas when i do the striping job.  Since is is gelcoat, would a tinited gelcoat overlay with a wood grain mold be an appropriate solution or just paint over to make the color more uniform?

                    Regards,  John

John Clark
Vent de Soleil SM 37
Phillipsburg SXM

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'm not ready yet, but I'll want to repaint my decks, and like the idea of a light gray with light stripes.  Does anyone have comments about whether repainting makes the non-skid too slippery, and if the light gray makes the decks significantly cooler?
Thanks
Kent
SM243
Kristy