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Re: Bilge Ground Strap and Cartagena, Colombia

Judy Rouse
 

Eric,

Regarding the Ground Strap:
If a ground strap it is broken where mine was, you will need to get
all of the water out to see the break (I used a wet/dry vac to get the
last 2" out). For what ever reason the copper had become very thin
where it was normally in direct contact with the bilge water AND in my
opinion it was probably a little too thin in the first place. I
replaced it with 1/8" thick copper 2" wide. The nut on the keel bolt
is 30mm. I used 3 12" extensions to my 1/2" drive to remove it.
There is also a small "flat head" machine screw holding the strap
against the forward port side of the bilge sump. I opened the end of
the Ground Strap connected to the bundle of yellow/green ground wires
and found some corrosion with some of the wires. Today I am going to
crimp wire terminals to fresh ends of the approximately 12 wires and
bolt them to the copper with probably 2 stainless bolts/nuts. I will
upload some photos of the replacement part today.

Regarding Cartagena:
We walk the streets at night and feel very safe. The people are
friendly and the economy seems fine. There has not been any report of
problems or theft of any kind on the cruiser's net. It is a shame
that Cartagena has gotten the bad rap that some parts of Colombia
probably deserve. There are 2 marina possibilities. We are in Club
Nautico, but I would recommend Club de Pesca for a absent owner (both
have websites email is good from Nautico and poor from Pesca...need to
call Pesca). Club de Pesca is a private yacht club, but they have a
number of transient slips for non-Colombian flagged vessels. Also, I
can recommend a local guy to care/watch your boat...since I have been
here he has gotten some Amel experience. The water in the bay is
about as bad or worse than Simpson Bay Lagoon...we do not run the
water maker and have barnacles cleaned from the bottom every 2 - 4
weeks. There is a haul out facility in the area with a 40 ton travel
lift.

We have a Jackline insurance policy. We paid a surcharge of $200 for
the first 30 days and $100 for each additional month. The insurance
company requires advance notice of the dates we are in Colombia. We
are US flagged vessel.




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

Bill,
i am currently in Bogota . i do business here about every 6 weeks. i
was thinking of moving Kimberlite from St Martin to Cartagena this
winter. did you have trouble getting insurance for Colombia? are you a
US flagged vessel? is your marina safe eg theft. i am not worried
about banditas i travel in a armoured hummer with 4 guys with machine
guns into the jungle.

however i would leave kimberlite in colombia for 3 weeks at a time
unattended.
what are your thoughts on leaving the boat?


i noticed the ground strap but mine did not look like it was
attached to anything. i will take a look. there is a previous post
about someone having keel problems and someone showed up with some
special tools and a chipper to remove the epoxy from he nuts. i
believe he also mentioned the size of the socket needed.
faie winds,
eric


Cartagena-ground strap

Eric Freedman
 

Bill,
i am currently in Bogota . i do business here about every 6 weeks. i was thinking of moving Kimberlite from St Martin to Cartagena this winter. did you have trouble getting insurance for Colombia? are you a US flagged vessel? is your marina safe eg theft. i am not worried about banditas i travel in a armoured hummer with 4 guys with machine guns into the jungle.

however i would leave kimberlite in colombia for 3 weeks at a time unattended.
what are your thoughts on leaving the boat?


i noticed the ground strap but mine did not look like it was attached to anything. i will take a look. there is a previous post about someone having keel problems and someone showed up with some special tools and a chipper to remove the epoxy from he nuts. i believe he also mentioned the size of the socket needed.
faie winds,
eric

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:37 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in
a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown size
and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel
bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months.
The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it
failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground
plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia


Bilge - Ground Strap

Judy Rouse
 

Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown size and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months. The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia


Re: Eumenia mini 5500 - where are you?

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Euminia is alive and well. I just ordered a new washing machine. My Google
showed a number of sites. You may have to set your search to include French
language sites. Most of the main French Chandleries carry Euminia and ENO
is now selling them under the ENO brand for a hundred Euros more. One web
site is http://users.telenet.be/dany.de.jaegher1/EUMENIA.htm, but I bought
mine through a chandler.



I do not know about having one sent into Turkey, but once you are in the EU,
it should be easy to find one.



Regards,



Miles Bidwell (LADYBUG, SM 218)


Re: ATF fluid leak

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Hi DoodelBug,



I am not sure that this will help, but it might. Two years ago I thought
that I had a leak from the drive shaft seal. The tell-tail red ATF fluid
brought visions of very expensive repairs.



I took the boat to Amel in Hyeres. The mechanic looked at the ATF fluid
dripping down from the joint between the engine and the transmission and
said that he had to go get another tool. He returned with a mirror. After
a minute he stood up and, with a big smile, announced that that leak was
from the shift leaver on the side of the transmission. The fluid was
running down under the transmission so that it appeared to be from the
drive-shaft seal. He said that he could replace the shift leaver seal in
about 15 minutes and he did.



This winter I will sail back across the Atlantic to the US. I will miss the
Amel maintenance. Even worse, I will have to relearn how to do this stuff
myself.



Regards,



Miles Bidwell



LADYBUG (SM 216)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main preventers & companionway lock

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

HI Guys, we are on SM 209 and use a preventer on the
main boom that leads back to the secondary winch so we
can adjust the tension from the cockpit. We us a 3:1
set of blocks to get the job done.. We also us use a
vang on the mizzen that has a jam cleat. While we
have to leave the cockpit it is an easy task most of
the time.

--- john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com> wrote:


Hi Eric on "Kimberlite",

You asked me a while back about my main preventers.
I've posted some photos on my photo folder "Moon
Dog". I don't use the Amel-provided vang with jam
cleat, I use two vangs without the built-in jam
cleat and use a rope clutch to secure them each in
the cockpit. I just attach one end of the vang to
the eye under the middle of the boom and then the
other end to the cleat on the salon roof top (the
one usually used for the pole foreguy). The lines
to tighten or loosen the vangs run through a hole in
the front of the hard dodger, through a rope clutch
inside the dodger on the dashboard. I have one on
each side and now I never have to leave the cockpit
to trim a preventer. I've also got two pad-eyes in
the deck, through bolted, mounted in the wiring
access compartments in forward head and the forward
hanging locker. This lead isn't as good as the roof
top cleats but they've worked well to prevent a gybe
in pretty bad conditions. So either place works to
secure them.

I've also posted photos of the very simple system I
use to hold the companionway door up. It is a flat
brass sliding bar that just slides onto a small L
bracket. It only takes a second to put in place. I
used to have a barrel bolt there but it was always a
hassle to line up the bolt with the hole, so this is
much easier.

All's well with us, we are moving slowly south with
the springtime and warming weather. We are in
Caldera now, a small town of 12,000 people, the
local people are very friendly...we were out til 2
last night at the "Hermandad de la Costa" Friday
night men's club, abalone for dinner followed by
lots of red wine and singing of Chilean folk songs !


Best regards,
John Martin
SM 248 "Moon Dog"
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ATF fluid leak

edmund_steele
 

SM#331 has the Yanmar 85 HP engine with a ZF Hurth model HSW 250H – 2.8
transmission. The latter has had a small leak of ATF fluid from the
output drive shaft seal. I had a VERY expensive repair made a year ago
with a 45 mm "speedy sleeve". It made no difference whatsoever. The
leak is noticeable under the transmission but I have never had to top
up the fluid between routine servicing. It has been suggested that the
reason that it leaks is that there is no "breather" on the
transmission. It was further suggested that any device that needs a
cooler, should have a breather as no seal is going to withstand the
pressure build up. Has anyone had this problem? Has anyone added a
simple breather?
Ed
DoodleBug


Bigger Bed

edmund_steele
 

My wife wants to expand the master cabin bed in our SM#331 by the
addition of a small section of platform and a mattress section. This
would block off the vanity of course BUT – has anyone done this? If so,
how did it work? How was it made?
Ed
DoodleBug


Eumenia mini 5500 - where are you?

edmund_steele
 

We have a Eumenia mini 5500 dishwasher on SM#331. It went out of
service in Australia last year and we have been forced to make long
passages without a functional dishwasher. (Just throw the dirty ones
over the side!) Australia had never heard of Eumenia but I was sure
that I could get the unit either repaired or replaced in Europe. We are
now lying at Marmaris, Turkey (OK, not part of the EU yet). I have
Googled for Eumenia and the only hit I got was a dealer in New Zealand.
The user's guide states that it is made in Austria. Does anyone know
how to find a dealer / repair center / replacement?
Ed
DoodleBug


main preventers & companionway lock

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Hi Eric on "Kimberlite",

You asked me a while back about my main preventers. I've posted some photos on my photo folder "Moon Dog". I don't use the Amel-provided vang with jam cleat, I use two vangs without the built-in jam cleat and use a rope clutch to secure them each in the cockpit. I just attach one end of the vang to the eye under the middle of the boom and then the other end to the cleat on the salon roof top (the one usually used for the pole foreguy). The lines to tighten or loosen the vangs run through a hole in the front of the hard dodger, through a rope clutch inside the dodger on the dashboard. I have one on each side and now I never have to leave the cockpit to trim a preventer. I've also got two pad-eyes in the deck, through bolted, mounted in the wiring access compartments in forward head and the forward hanging locker. This lead isn't as good as the roof top cleats but they've worked well to prevent a gybe in pretty bad conditions. So either place works to secure them.

I've also posted photos of the very simple system I use to hold the companionway door up. It is a flat brass sliding bar that just slides onto a small L bracket. It only takes a second to put in place. I used to have a barrel bolt there but it was always a hassle to line up the bolt with the hole, so this is much easier.

All's well with us, we are moving slowly south with the springtime and warming weather. We are in Caldera now, a small town of 12,000 people, the local people are very friendly...we were out til 2 last night at the "Hermandad de la Costa" Friday night men's club, abalone for dinner followed by lots of red wine and singing of Chilean folk songs !

Best regards,
John Martin
SM 248 "Moon Dog"
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Re: problem em

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Gary,
thanks a lot for your support. Photos are excellent !
About em it may be a spam problem with the mail server.I'm not a pc
expert, so...
Any way , thanks to the Group, we are ok.
For now all the best and buon vento.
Ciao Gianni
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Gianni:

I have posted in the photos section, under the folder for the
impeller tool 3 photos
related to the fabrication of the impeller removal tool so that you
can make your
own where you are.

I hope this helps. Still not sure why your email can't talk to
mine.

Regards,

Gary

Instructions:

If you have access to self locking pliers of the sort depicted all
you
need is 2 pieces of stainless steel about 1/4 inch by 1/4 inch by
1.5 inches
long. I cut a series of grooves in the stainless to act as
serrations. I cut
the ViceGrips tips off and TIG weld the stainless to the pliers
ends.


Re: problem em

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Gianni:

I have posted in the photos section, under the folder for the impeller tool 3 photos
related to the fabrication of the impeller removal tool so that you can make your
own where you are.

I hope this helps. Still not sure why your email can't talk to mine.

Regards,

Gary

Instructions:

If you have access to self locking pliers of the sort depicted all you
need is 2 pieces of stainless steel about 1/4 inch by 1/4 inch by 1.5 inches
long. I cut a series of grooves in the stainless to act as serrations. I cut
the ViceGrips tips off and TIG weld the stainless to the pliers ends.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric

We are back in New Zealand. E-mail me. Wanderer@uuplus.com

Vito

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Vito,

How are you and where are you?

Fair Winds,

Eric





Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission



Hi MIke

How are you.

Dont worry too much about the milk shake in your U drive. I had
that
happen in my first Amel. Just replace the seals and all will be
well.
Make sure that once you drain the oil that you put some deisel
trough
to get rid of any bad mixture. Amel tells a story that they had a
boat cross the Atlantic with the same situation. The U drive is
verry
strong.

Vito Ciaravino
ASM#283

Wanderer

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Robin Cooter
<robincooter@> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I had a plastic bag around my prop and the vibration messed up
the seals enough to let sea water in. Seals are easy enough to
obtain from any reasonable engineering supplier if you can't wait
for
AMEL to send them to you, but go for the best quality. Do note the
way round the seals are when you take the old ones off! I go with
Richard - don't run it very much with water in the oil. The sooner
you check and replace the better.

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004 Belouga

Richard Piller <richard03801@> wrote:
Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209

--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear. The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

Eric Freedman
 

Vito,

How are you and where are you?

Fair Winds,

Eric





Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission



Hi MIke

How are you.

Dont worry too much about the milk shake in your U drive. I had that
happen in my first Amel. Just replace the seals and all will be well.
Make sure that once you drain the oil that you put some deisel trough
to get rid of any bad mixture. Amel tells a story that they had a
boat cross the Atlantic with the same situation. The U drive is verry
strong.

Vito Ciaravino
ASM#283

Wanderer

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Robin Cooter
<robincooter@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I had a plastic bag around my prop and the vibration messed up
the seals enough to let sea water in. Seals are easy enough to
obtain from any reasonable engineering supplier if you can't wait for
AMEL to send them to you, but go for the best quality. Do note the
way round the seals are when you take the old ones off! I go with
Richard - don't run it very much with water in the oil. The sooner
you check and replace the better.

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004 Belouga

Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:
Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209

--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear. The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

Rob Brennan <brennan@...>
 

Mike

I too had the alarming milkshake. 30 hours of engine use and 28 days later
I replaced the seals and all has been well since.

Most recently, one seal started leaking oil out but the water seal held
until replacement.

Regards

Regards





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Nebo SM251



Robert Brennan & Associates

GPO Box 533

Canberra

ACT 2601



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michael grunstein
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 9:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission



Thanks, Vito,

I'll welcome this calming note and I actually look
forward to do it. Robin Cotter suggested the same.
Richard Piller gave the worst case scenario. I'll find
out in December and let you know. I hope all is well
on Wanderer.

Michael Grunstein sm2000 #345

--- asm283 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> >
wrote:

Hi MIke

How are you.

Dont worry too much about the milk shake in your U
drive. I had that
happen in my first Amel. Just replace the seals and
all will be well.
Make sure that once you drain the oil that you put
some deisel trough
to get rid of any bad mixture. Amel tells a story
that they had a
boat cross the Atlantic with the same situation. The
U drive is verry
strong.

Vito Ciaravino
ASM#283

Wanderer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Robin Cooter

<robincooter@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I had a plastic bag around my prop and the
vibration messed up
the seals enough to let sea water in. Seals are
easy enough to
obtain from any reasonable engineering supplier if
you can't wait for
AMEL to send them to you, but go for the best
quality. Do note the
way round the seals are when you take the old ones
off! I go with
Richard - don't run it very much with water in the
oil. The sooner
you check and replace the better.

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004 Belouga

Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:
Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also
think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got
water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has
been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally
fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte
engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when
you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far
with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big
time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209

--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone
experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water
leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop
hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear.
The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in
December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other
causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced
one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

Thanks, Vito,

I'll welcome this calming note and I actually look
forward to do it. Robin Cotter suggested the same.
Richard Piller gave the worst case scenario. I'll find
out in December and let you know. I hope all is well
on Wanderer.

Michael Grunstein sm2000 #345




--- asm283 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi MIke

How are you.

Dont worry too much about the milk shake in your U
drive. I had that
happen in my first Amel. Just replace the seals and
all will be well.
Make sure that once you drain the oil that you put
some deisel trough
to get rid of any bad mixture. Amel tells a story
that they had a
boat cross the Atlantic with the same situation. The
U drive is verry
strong.

Vito Ciaravino
ASM#283

Wanderer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Robin Cooter

<robincooter@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I had a plastic bag around my prop and the
vibration messed up
the seals enough to let sea water in. Seals are
easy enough to
obtain from any reasonable engineering supplier if
you can't wait for
AMEL to send them to you, but go for the best
quality. Do note the
way round the seals are when you take the old ones
off! I go with
Richard - don't run it very much with water in the
oil. The sooner
you check and replace the better.

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004 Belouga

Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:
Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also
think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got
water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has
been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally
fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte
engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when
you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far
with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big
time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209

--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone
experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water
leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop
hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear.
The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in
December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other
causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced
one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi MIke

How are you.

Dont worry too much about the milk shake in your U drive. I had that
happen in my first Amel. Just replace the seals and all will be well.
Make sure that once you drain the oil that you put some deisel trough
to get rid of any bad mixture. Amel tells a story that they had a
boat cross the Atlantic with the same situation. The U drive is verry
strong.

Vito Ciaravino
ASM#283

Wanderer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Robin Cooter
<robincooter@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I had a plastic bag around my prop and the vibration messed up
the seals enough to let sea water in. Seals are easy enough to
obtain from any reasonable engineering supplier if you can't wait for
AMEL to send them to you, but go for the best quality. Do note the
way round the seals are when you take the old ones off! I go with
Richard - don't run it very much with water in the oil. The sooner
you check and replace the better.

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004 Belouga

Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:
Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209

--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear. The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioning Water Pump

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric:

I'm sorry, the capacitors that failed on my three Climma AC units were
in the electronic control box attached or near each unit. They are
the start capacitors for the compressor motors not for the water
pump. Each control box contains 4 capacitors, as I recall. One large
one and three smaller ones, all of the electrolytic (can) type. The failed
one, in each instance, was the largest of the four and had only
two leads. A capacitor with three leads? I am not sure what that
would be, perhaps an extra grounding wire???

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Gary,

My calpeda pump had one capacitor in it with I believe 3 leads. that
confused me so I got the capacitor from calpeda here in the usa.

Could you look next time you are down and see how you wired the two
capacitors?

Thanks

Eric


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

Hi Mike,

I had a plastic bag around my prop and the vibration messed up the seals enough to let sea water in. Seals are easy enough to obtain from any reasonable engineering supplier if you can't wait for AMEL to send them to you, but go for the best quality. Do note the way round the seals are when you take the old ones off! I go with Richard - don't run it very much with water in the oil. The sooner you check and replace the better.

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004 Belouga

Richard Piller <richard03801@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209

--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear. The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioning Water Pump

Eric Freedman
 

Gary,

My calpeda pump had one capacitor in it with I believe 3 leads. that
confused me so I got the capacitor from calpeda here in the usa.

Could you look next time you are down and see how you wired the two
capacitors?

Thanks

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioning Water Pump



Hi Eric:

As I recall it was the largest of the 4 capacitors that wnet up in smoke
on each unit. The fact that all three did it suggest to me that they
were either from a faulty production lot or undersized.

The originals were 470 volt, 40 microferrad, plastic encased capacitors.
As I recall I replaced them with 600 volt 40 microfarrad capacitors and
they were metal encased. Un-fortunately they are larger in size and do
not fit in the the climma enclosure and had to be strapped to the outside
of that enclosure. I got my capacitors from a local motor overhaul shop
that had a large stock of motor start capacitors.

Hope that helps.

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

do you have the specifications or make and model number of the capacitors?

I had the same problem and would like to have a spare other than from
calpeda.

thanks

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite