On 12 May 2017, at 19:07, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,

   We recently Copper Coated a Hardin 45 for a customer.  The material cost was about $1,700 + rollers, pans, gloves etc.  All of the work is in the preparation and depends on whether you are also applying a barrier coating etc..  In our case, my wife and I applied the 4 coats (the minimum) to one side of the boat one day and 4 coats on the other side the following day.  There is a learning curve to applying the product.  There is a bit of detail work getting under all of the blocking and stands depending again on how much prep work is required.  Once coated, the product is subject to damage from moisture, even from just dew for 2 days so you need to provide a drip line at the waterline and also carefully select the weather.    As to the effectiveness of the product, I do not have any personal experience yet.  I can tell you that the Micron paints can be applied over the Copper Coat and the adhesion is reported to be good.  A number of the people that applied the Copper Coat here locally in Florida did end up painting over the Copper Coat since they did have growth problems.  My impression is that the Copper Coat will require regular cleaning in the Tropics, though unlike paint it does not scrub off.  I am considering Copper Coating my own boat and then applying 2 coats of Micron at each haul out  so if at any point I am unable to haul and the Micron is no longer effective or has been scrubbed off, I will still have some protection.  The Copper Coat might be more effective in the Chesapeake.  Perhaps consider contacting Copper Coat and asking to see some of the other boats in your area with Copper Coat on them that have been in the water for a while.  Best of luck and if you go ahead with this, please post the results.

Best,

James Alton

SV Sueno, Maramu #220

On May 12, 2017, at 6:36 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We have decided to apply Copper Coat on our Amel SM,. We are on our way to Chesapeake Bay, and have got one cost estimate from a yard there. The estimate is 12000 USD. Rather expansive, have anyone of you out here applied Copper coat? Is our indicated price resonable?
Any one have any suggestion of a good place to have it applied in The Chesapeak Bay area
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

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On May 12, 2017, at 6:36 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We have decided to apply Copper Coat on our Amel SM,. We are on our way to Chesapeake Bay, and have got one cost estimate from a yard there. The estimate is 12000 USD. Rather expansive, have anyone of you out here applied Copper coat? Is our indicated price resonable?
Any one have any suggestion of a good place to have it applied in The Chesapeak Bay area
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

 

Hi Dan,

 

we habe been on the hard in Trinidad at Peakes last summer.  What I think is worth to mention:

 

• Trindidad ist hot and humid in summer, but not as humid as I feared.  We had no AC or dehumidifier, closed the boat complete, covered some ventilation holes and did not ask anyone to vent it. We did not had any mold (a lot of other boats had!).  
• We did not leave any food on the boat
• We put all our cloths in large black plastic bags, but them in the hot sund until they were really hot, sucked the air out and closed them.  All the clothes stayed „fresh“.
• We gave the sails to the Ullman Sails sail maker for check and storage. Was good.
• We put enough grease onto the posts to make sure that no ants go on the boat, also on the tie downs. We had no ants, many other boats had.
• We covered the cockpit with a silver cover (from the peakes shop, the silver is much better than the blue one) for UV protection
• Put everything away from the boat that shall not get dirty
• We have a stainless chain that we cleaned with phosporic acid and stored it in trhe chain locker. If it would be a galvanized chain I would leave it outside
• We put some roach-traps in the boat but had no roaches in, some boats had
• Filled the diesel  tank full with diesel and put additive in it
• And did all the standard stuff for winterizing (engine etc.)
• And: Ask Sue what she recommends to avoid „insects“ enter the boat at the save storage

 

All the best, herbert

 

KALI MERA

SN120

Isla Providencia

 

 

Dan,

I was hoping that someone would answer that has actually left a boat on the hard in Trinidad. I have not, but if I were, I would do the following:

1. I would protect the boat from UV. Custom-made plastic shrink-covers are available, but if you plan to do this for a number of seasons, maybe you should check the cost of having a storage cover made. 
2. Humidity is an issue in Trinidad, and even though your boat is a dry one, I think that I would rent a window-type AC made for the companionway. Peakes will put you in touch with someone who can help you with this. Last year, I saw a SM that had one at the companionway with a piece of plywood cut to fill in the rest of the area and with a padlock hasp attached to lock it all. The AC will take care of removing the humidity. As you know there is a dehumidifier on BeBe. This will not work unattended because if power is lost, it will not automatically restart, someone has to press the start button.
3. I would buy some pesticide and liberally spray everything that touches the dirt (stands & braces). The deadlier the product, the better. The biggest issue on a SM at Peaks may be ants or even termites...ask Peaks about this.
4. Store the dinghy (locked) on deck and protect it from UV. The outboard should be stored lying on its side on a well-padded salon table...there might be some gasoline inside the engine, so be prepared and drain it first...check the manual. It should only be laid on only one side...check the manual as I have forgotten which side. An alternate place to store it would be the cockpit lazarette or the port side locker where you can lower it standing up.
5. I would store all sails & sheets and all bimini pieces inside the boat. There is a special cockpit storage panel made out of the same material as the bimini to use to protect the cockpit controls. It is under the aft berth in a bag of the same material.
6. Hire Dwayne or someone to check on the boat once a week and send you an email...Peaks may offer this service. It is not uncommon for vessels to become unplugged while on the hard. Have the person check for power and that the AC is working. Have them visually check the interior and battery monitor.
7. If I were you, I would make sure that the water tank is full and leave the water maker automatic rinsing system ON. The timer is set to rinse for 4 minutes, twice a week.
8. Trinidad can have some serious rain storms. Be sure the deck drains freely, especially the stbd side around the SSB antenna. In fact, I would probably remove the SSB antenna from the deck and plug the screw holes with RTV until you return, then remount it. The issue is that deck drainage can be severely restricted in this area and if the aft lazarette is not completely secure or sealed, you may get rain water inside the lazarette.

I hope that this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

instructor@... 
+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:47 AM, 'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi all,   We will be hauling our SM out at the end of the month for 5 months of storage in Trinidad.  

We would love to see checklists and hear tips from others who have a good annual routine. 

Some key questions for me are:

- temp and humidity control 

- UV protection 

- pest control

- dinghy storage

- storage of sails and other canvas items

Thanks for any experiences you can share.

Best regards, Dan Carlson 

sv BeBe, SM 387

 

Dear AMEL community,

I'm looking for a new canopy top, and cockpit protection. I've seen one in St. Martin on another AMEL that seemed to have two layers for the cockpit, one against Mosquitos and a second one against rain. It looked really nice, but I couldn't ask the owner while I was at the Island World Marina because he left his boat during my stay. However, I heard from another AMEL owner that he had someone in Trinidad doing that job. If you know who I may contact in Trinidad (as I plan to do down to Grenada for the HS anyway), I'd really appreciate the information.

Fair winds,

Alex Ramseyer

SY NO STRESS

AMEL54, #15